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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2012, 17:37 »
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2012, 17:51 »
Just the beginning! 

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2012, 20:28 »
now to get narCONon of georgia closed and the rest of them...they have turned my sister against me.  she came home yesterday-no one bothered to tell me.  she has already send 4 nasty texts to which i will not reply.  been reading the "books" from narCONon that have been posted and she is brainwashed.

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2012, 20:39 »
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now to get narCONon of georgia closed and the rest of them...they have turned my sister against me.  she came home yesterday-no one bothered to tell me.  she has already send 4 nasty texts to which i will not reply.  been reading the "books" from narCONon that have been posted and she is brainwashed.

Bummer. Is she planning on working for them or do you know?
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2012, 21:47 »
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Government shuts down dangerous Narconon
CBC Montreal Live - April 16, 2012: Narconon Trois-Rivieres has been shut down by the Quebec Ministry of Health and Social Services following a lengthy investigation by the Ministry. Patients transferred to other centers.
http://youtu.be/2v4b3m8ohlU

CBC Montreal Radio Report April 16th 2012: The Narconon Drug Prevention and Rehabilitation Centre in Trois-Rivières is shut down for 'dangerous' practices.

Transcript:

Quebec's Health Department has shut down a drug rehab center in Trois-Rivières that is linked to Scientology.

The local health agency called the Narconon program "dangerous for the health of its patients." CBC reporter Catou MacKinnon is looking into this story and joins us now. Catou.

Catou MacKinnon: Lauren, I'm looking at a two-page document sent by the local regional health agency about a week ago. And it follows a visit of Narconon in early February. And the report, or, I guess, this two-page letter is actually quite scathing in its critique of what was going on there. It says the center did not evaluate patients when they first came in, to see the severity of their addictions, that it uses something called "biophysical detox" that is not based on science, that they do follow the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, who is the founder of Scientology, and that people who work there were not trained properly. There was no evaluation of suicide risks.

And so I've learned since then ... I talked to an uncle of a patient who was there. We are granting him anonymity to protect the identity of the young man who was there. He was in his early twenties. He was one of about twenty-four patients.

Now they found out on Friday that the center was being shut down. They were not told why, and they were even told not to contact their family or the person, their sponsor, who had paid the $25,000 it takes to get into this detox center. So that particular young man has been taken out. His family - they're not Scientologists, but they do believe in this program to get somebody off drugs - so they've actually sent him to another Narconon center in Michigan. But apparently, there are still seven patients left there. We don't know what's going to happen to them. I have been unable to reach Narconon or the director of their legal affairs.

And the Health Ministry is holding a press conference tomorrow, so we'll find out more then.


Radio Report: http://live.cbc.ca/Event/CBC_Montreal/27962744
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2012, 22:06 »
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2012, 22:28 »
I linked it above  ;)

Thanks!
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2012, 23:03 »
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

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Narconon Trois-Rivieres !!!

Mary, could you post a list of the remaining Narconon facilities in the US and Canada we have to shut down? It would be nice to have a "target acquistion list."

Thanks.

Hi Damian, Good to see you posting here!!

I have moved my reply to a new thread titled ' List of Narconon Programs ' which can be found here
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10168.0.html#new

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2012, 23:32 »
David posted this excellent videoed CBC Montreal Live short news report on Ex Scientologist Message Board:

Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED
Published on Apr 16, 2012 by Intelligenceplus


CBC Montreal Live - April 16, 2012: Narconon Trois-Rivieres has been shut down by the Quebec Ministry of Health and Social Services following a lengthy investigation by the Ministry. Patients transferred to other centers.

http://youtu.be/2v4b3m8ohlU

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?26916-Narconon-Trois-Rivieres-CLOSED/page4
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2012, 00:25 »
I just joined this site. This is amazing news!

I am so proud to hear this. I can only imagine the amount of time and work went into this.
Great Job!

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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2012, 11:21 »
I just joined this site. This is amazing news!

I am so proud to hear this. I can only imagine the amount of time and work went into this.
Great Job!
Welcome to the board.

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2012, 09:20 »
Scientologist-run rehab centre ordered closed in Quebec
At least four clients taken to hospital in recent months
CBC News Posted: Apr 17, 2012 7:02 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2012 10:13 PM ET

The head of a regional health agency in Quebec said he had no choice but to shut down a Scientology-based rehab centre in Trois-Rivières.

In recent months, he said at least four clients were taken to hospital because of methods used at the centre.

The Narconon Trois-Rivières is one of dozens of similar centres in the U.S. and around the world where the detox treatment is inspired by the teachings of Scientology.

Mauricie regional health agency director Marc Latour said Narconon Trois-Rivières advertised an 80 per cent success rate and charged $25,000 for its program.

Latour said the centre was dangerous for patients and violated many of the criteria regulating Quebec's rehab centres.

He said there was no medical supervision and no scientific basis to the treatment.

Latour said patients went cold turkey, then underwent lengthy sauna detox sessions designed to sweat out drugs and took an unhealthy amount of vitamins. [..]

Read on for more ( best to not copy whole article. They miss the view hits)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/17/narconon-trois-rivieres.html
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2012, 09:43 »
Soooooo tired, yet sooooooo happy. Justice can be had when the concerned citizen speaks out. :D

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2012, 09:53 »


Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - David Edgar Love interview on CBC Radio - Québec City. Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKvAlkwF9A&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2012, 10:03 »
I'm listening right now! Way to go, David!! Very detailed interview!!
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2012, 13:35 »
Scientologist-run rehab centre ordered closed in Quebec
At least four clients taken to hospital in recent months
CBC News Posted: Apr 17, 2012 7:02 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2012 10:13 PM ET

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Read on for more ( best to not copy whole article. They miss the view hits)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/17/narconon-trois-rivieres.html

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Her son and about half of the 34 people who were at the centre when it was shut down have been sent to a Narconon centre in the U.S.

I wonder which one they went to?  The deadly Narconon Arrowhead in Oklahoma, the deceptive and fraudulent Narconon of Georgia, the filthy Narconon Vista Bay, or some other disgusting Narconon branch?
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2012, 15:22 »
Here is the next video:


Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - Quebec Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety. Health officials say Narconon preys on the vulnerable and desperate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMT16AEDAxo&feature=player_embedded

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I was at Narconon Arrowhead Xxxxxxx to visit Xxxxxxx that still work there and live in those awful cabins... My friend Xxxxxx was telling me about a staff meeting they had where they talked about the closing of a Narconon in Canada... and how the person who worked so hard to close it was an ungrateful, suppressive, man who owed his life to the facilities because without Narconon he would most likely be dead in the streets. They were also told that you were to be considered dangerous to the narconon family and that you said arrowhead was next... then warned them that you might try get information from staff members and anyone caught speaking with you would be considered a suppressive person and terminated immediately... then when I was told the name of the person this whole meeting was about it turns out it was you! I was thinking that I just added you on facebook! Small world.

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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2012, 18:42 »
One article said that some patients were sent to 'Michigan'.
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2012, 19:03 »


Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - David Edgar Love interview on CBC Radio - Québec City. Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKvAlkwF9A&feature=player_embedded

Slowpoke here. I love the picture.
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Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2012, 14:26 »
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Narconon Trois-Rivières: Disturbing testimony from former employees

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201204/18/01-4516403-des-constats-inquietants.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_actualites_442_section_POS1

 by Paule Vermot Desroches
 April 18, 2012

 

Photo caption: From left to right: Émilie Marin, Sylvain Bérard, Julie Ann Pagé, Odette Poulin,
 and Sylvie Houde, former employees of Narconon Trois-Rivières.
 (Photo by François Gervais)

 (Trois-Rivières) Things weren't sailing very smoothly inside Narconon during the past few months. This, at least, is what emerges from the testimony of Narconon employees who, after their sudden dismissal, felt the need to speak out in public about the situation to Le Nouvelliste.

 First and foremost, the employees wished to defend the program offered by Narconon as an effective program that has time and again produced excellent results, but they said that the center's administration left much to be desired and sometimes even endangered the safety of certain residents and employees.

 Sylvain Bérard, the Ethics Officer, said that Narconon had already been experiencing financial problems for some time, to such an extent that, in recent months, the organization had even been admitting clients with more serious problems of a psychiatric nature.

 "Some of these cases weren't admissible to the program because it requires cutting off their medication. But the administration chose to keep them anyway. There were several instances of attempted suicide during the past few months. By law, immediate medical assistance should have been provided, but management decided to keep these persons without calling for an ambulance," says the former employee.

 His colleague, Julie Ann Pagé remembers a female resident who, less than ten days earlier, made at least two suicide attempts in one day, but she was not referred to a hospital. Ms. Pagé says that incidents like this were blamed on the employees for supposedly "not delivering enough."

 "We believe in what we are doing, and we do it for the sake of our residents, for the families, because we believe that everyone can be rehabilitated. But we were treated like assholes, as less than nothing," says Julie Ann Pagé, who was responsible for the withdrawal phase at Narconon.

 All of the employees gathered around the table said they had received no pay for at least six weeks, and neither had they received the 4% of salary due to them at the termination of employment. Yesterday morning, they went to the labour standards commission office to inquire about their possible recourse.

 "There were several times we didn't get paid on time. But they promised us all sorts of things. It was lie after lie. We weren't supposed to talk about it with each other, otherwise we risked getting fired," remembers Sylvie Houde.

 Narconon's finances were so badly managed that Julie Ann Pagé and another co-worker were forced to get rid of the center's trash because Narconon couldn't afford to have its garbage bins emptied. Sylvain Bérard also recalls that, in 2009, clients were compelled to eat ground beef for a whole month, even though the clients could spend between $20,000 and $30,000 for their stay.

 "We had no right to have a personal opinion. The only thing that mattered was their teaching of Scientology. Don't do to others what you wouldn't want them to do to you. This was one of their internal rules, but they themselves don't apply it. They have no respect for us or for the residents," says Sylvie Houde.

 "We're playing with people's lives"

 While the Narconon employees were at Le Nouvelliste, one of their cell phones rang. On the line was a woman from the Maritimes who was worried because she hadn't heard from her brother who was in therapy in Trois-Rivières. The man she was referring to had been relocated to the Narconon center in Calgary. His family members had not been notified and no one at Narconon Trois-Rivières was answering the phone to reassure them.

 Discouragement was perceptible around the table. "There's no better example to show the kind of management that goes on there. Right now, they're taking away all of the center's records, confidential files they don't want anyone to see because of the crooked way they manage," says Odette Poulin.

 Odette Poulin points out that every employee had to sign a contract with Narconon that prohibits them from speaking to the media. "We weren't supposed to reveal anything to the press. We're speaking today anyway for the sake of the parents and the students, but also for the employees. We were treated as less than nothing," says Julie Ann Pagé. "We didn't even get a thank you or a letter of reference," laments Odette Poulin.

 Émilie Marin, who resigned from Narconon last March 30, emphasizes however that their criticism of the administration only concerns Narconon Trois-Rivières and does not necessarily apply to the other centers around the world.

 Sylvain Girard, for his part, suspects that the Narconon Trois-Rivières administration is now turning to Toronto to open a new center. "I think this is the biggest danger, because they'll open somewhere else in Canada. The whole country needs to be aware of what's happening. As far as the program is concerned, I firmly believe in it. I believe that a person should not be cured of an addiction by taking other drugs. The Narconon program is a logical program. But it was time for the government to close down Narconon Trois-Rivières because psychiatric cases are out of line with our capabilities. The situation had become dangerous," said Mr. Bérard. "We're playing with people's lives," adds Julie Ann Pagé.

 Le Nouvelliste tried again to contact the administration of Narconon Trois-Rivières by telephone and by email to offer an opportunity to respond, but without success.
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