The worn out and false allegations that you aired are also repeatedly stated by members of the “anonymous” group, made up of individuals who like WSB News, have never had any personal dealings with Narconon.
Then why are several families, who are not "anonymous" dragging NN Oklahoma in to court over essentially the same allegations?? Why was NN TR shut down in Canada for reasons very similar to those found at almost every narCONon in the US because of charges brought forward by someone who is not "anonymous"?? And I don't believe those members of the public who pushed to get docs released in the Desmond case were "anonymous".So WTF is Mary Rieser and this 'Board of Directors' talking about??
oops. I see News Thetan posted a new thread in The News section about this already. Sorry.http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,11623.msg26551.html#msg26551Consider this as reference:First Atlanta Journal-Constitution article up!! Posted: 6:00 a.m. Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012Norcross drug facility under new scrutiny By Christian BooneThe Atlanta Journal-Constitution http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/norcross-drug-facility-under-new-scrutiny/nSTF3/
Narconon of Georgia responds and Mary Rieser plays the "Anonymous" card.Quote The following is an email sent by Narconon Georgia's board of directors in response to the Channel 2 Action News investigation.From: Narconon GeorgiaDate: October 4, 2012To: Fleischer, JodieSubject:From the Board of Directors Narconon of GeorgiaWe are disappointed that the Channel 2 reports that aired in the last three days have been very misleading. WSB News presented these reports as if they were based on recent news, when they arose from an incident that happened more than four years ago that is the subject of a current lawsuit. We are especially surprised at what seems to be an attempt to try a case through the media, a practice, which to our understanding, is against the rules governing the actions of attorneys in the state of Georgia.Contrary to your recent reports, the Narconon program is not about religion. In fact, most of the students of Narconon Georgia are Christians who go to Church every Sunday. Like other recovery programs, including Alcoholics Anonymous, we believe that faith is an important part of recovery and, while Narconon is a non-religious program, our staff have always encouraged our clients to practice their own personal religious beliefs.Many people who work at Narconon understand the problem of drugs first-hand. For example, Ms. Rieser experienced drug abuse in her own family 17 years ago and was forced to face a situation that she and Narconon now help families face every day. It is never easy as a parent to deal with a child who is abusing drugs and it is even more difficult to face the inner demons that can taunt one. “Was there something I should have done differently?” “How could I have avoided this?” “Will it ever get better?” The staff of Narconon, or of any rehab for that matter, know that ultimately, no matter what the cause of the addiction is, the success of any drug rehabilitation treatment program depends on the commitment and desire of the addict to recover from his or her addictions. Any recovering drug addict will tell you that they know that the decision to stay clean is up to them.This is why many Narconon students and families who viewed your recent reports have told us that they will continue to support us. The vast majority of our students and their families know that our program is based on the facts of addiction treatment, education and recovery. The sad thing is, many people really don’t care about drug addicts and have long ago written them off as some kind of scourge who are not worth helping.However, Narconon and its staff have not and will not write drug addicts off, despite any and all efforts to try and convince them to do otherwise. There are still too many that need real help. The worn out and false allegations that you aired are also repeatedly stated by members of the “anonymous” group, made up of individuals who like WSB News, have never had any personal dealings with Narconon. more at http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/letter-narconon-georgia-board-directors/nSTZ9/
The following is an email sent by Narconon Georgia's board of directors in response to the Channel 2 Action News investigation.From: Narconon GeorgiaDate: October 4, 2012To: Fleischer, JodieSubject:From the Board of Directors Narconon of GeorgiaWe are disappointed that the Channel 2 reports that aired in the last three days have been very misleading. WSB News presented these reports as if they were based on recent news, when they arose from an incident that happened more than four years ago that is the subject of a current lawsuit. We are especially surprised at what seems to be an attempt to try a case through the media, a practice, which to our understanding, is against the rules governing the actions of attorneys in the state of Georgia.Contrary to your recent reports, the Narconon program is not about religion. In fact, most of the students of Narconon Georgia are Christians who go to Church every Sunday. Like other recovery programs, including Alcoholics Anonymous, we believe that faith is an important part of recovery and, while Narconon is a non-religious program, our staff have always encouraged our clients to practice their own personal religious beliefs.Many people who work at Narconon understand the problem of drugs first-hand. For example, Ms. Rieser experienced drug abuse in her own family 17 years ago and was forced to face a situation that she and Narconon now help families face every day. It is never easy as a parent to deal with a child who is abusing drugs and it is even more difficult to face the inner demons that can taunt one. “Was there something I should have done differently?” “How could I have avoided this?” “Will it ever get better?” The staff of Narconon, or of any rehab for that matter, know that ultimately, no matter what the cause of the addiction is, the success of any drug rehabilitation treatment program depends on the commitment and desire of the addict to recover from his or her addictions. Any recovering drug addict will tell you that they know that the decision to stay clean is up to them.This is why many Narconon students and families who viewed your recent reports have told us that they will continue to support us. The vast majority of our students and their families know that our program is based on the facts of addiction treatment, education and recovery. The sad thing is, many people really don’t care about drug addicts and have long ago written them off as some kind of scourge who are not worth helping.However, Narconon and its staff have not and will not write drug addicts off, despite any and all efforts to try and convince them to do otherwise. There are still too many that need real help. The worn out and false allegations that you aired are also repeatedly stated by members of the “anonymous” group, made up of individuals who like WSB News, have never had any personal dealings with Narconon.
Quote from: mefree on October 04, 2012, 19:18Narconon of Georgia responds and Mary Rieser plays the "Anonymous" card.Quote The following is an email sent by Narconon Georgia's board of directors in response to the Channel 2 Action News investigation.From: Narconon GeorgiaDate: October 4, 2012To: Fleischer, JodieSubject:From the Board of Directors Narconon of GeorgiaWe are disappointed that the Channel 2 reports that aired in the last three days have been very misleading. WSB News presented these reports as if they were based on recent news, when they arose from an incident that happened more than four years ago that is the subject of a current lawsuit. We are especially surprised at what seems to be an attempt to try a case through the media, a practice, which to our understanding, is against the rules governing the actions of attorneys in the state of Georgia.Contrary to your recent reports, the Narconon program is not about religion. In fact, most of the students of Narconon Georgia are Christians who go to Church every Sunday. Like other recovery programs, including Alcoholics Anonymous, we believe that faith is an important part of recovery and, while Narconon is a non-religious program, our staff have always encouraged our clients to practice their own personal religious beliefs.Many people who work at Narconon understand the problem of drugs first-hand. For example, Ms. Rieser experienced drug abuse in her own family 17 years ago and was forced to face a situation that she and Narconon now help families face every day. It is never easy as a parent to deal with a child who is abusing drugs and it is even more difficult to face the inner demons that can taunt one. “Was there something I should have done differently?” “How could I have avoided this?” “Will it ever get better?” The staff of Narconon, or of any rehab for that matter, know that ultimately, no matter what the cause of the addiction is, the success of any drug rehabilitation treatment program depends on the commitment and desire of the addict to recover from his or her addictions. Any recovering drug addict will tell you that they know that the decision to stay clean is up to them.This is why many Narconon students and families who viewed your recent reports have told us that they will continue to support us. The vast majority of our students and their families know that our program is based on the facts of addiction treatment, education and recovery. The sad thing is, many people really don’t care about drug addicts and have long ago written them off as some kind of scourge who are not worth helping.However, Narconon and its staff have not and will not write drug addicts off, despite any and all efforts to try and convince them to do otherwise. There are still too many that need real help. The worn out and false allegations that you aired are also repeatedly stated by members of the “anonymous” group, made up of individuals who like WSB News, have never had any personal dealings with Narconon. more at http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/letter-narconon-georgia-board-directors/nSTZ9/ Ha! What a crock of horse manure. The board of directors do not even have the stones to put their individual names in its response to the WSB expose'. What is it with these scientologists anyway? Anonymous??? Give me a break. What on gods green earth does anonymous have to do with this? Could someone please enlighten me? Am I not privy to some vast conspiracy or something? Sounds to me like the Narconon board of directors have been spending far to much time at a certain Kool Aid stand imho. Not once in their response to the WSB expose did they say anything about the tragic passing of Patrick W. Desmond while in THEIR CARE. Very telling,very telling indeed!
... he (Patrick) enrolled in the Narconon program at NNGA on September 24, 2007 ...
Before beginning the Narconon program however, he was admitted to Peachford Hospital on September 21, 2007 for detoxification from alcohol.
Patrick Desmond, upon initial admission to the NNGA program, also signed a FinancialPolicy and Agreement Form, which specifically stated:"Any supportive living arrangements are made with the facility of your choice. While Narconon of Georgia may provide a list of preferred providers, all financial and living arrangements are between the family and the facility of their choice."
I, _________________, have been informed by the staff of Narconon and by Dr. Lisa Robbing about any physical, mental, or emotional risks related to the Sauna/Exercise program and its related vitamin and food supplement regimen. I have been provided with a data sheet which explains the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's Recommended Daily Allowances for vitamins and food supplements, and Narconon and Dr. Robbins have explained to me that the Sauna/Exercise program exceeds these recommended allowances. The excess amount results from incremental increases in vitamin doses as I progress throughout the Sauna/Exercise program. I understand what has been explained to me and what I have read, and I hereby give my willing consent to fully participate in the program.__________________________________ __Student Signature and Date__________________________________ __Doctor Signature and DateAttached: Vitamin Data Sheet
FYI I am not now nor have I ever been accociated with Scientology or Narconon. I have had a realitive that went through drug rehab in Georgia, they went to Peachford, he has been drug free for over 20 years now. It upsets me that places like Narconon exist and takes advantage of people when that are at their lowest. Sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom for people to get help and unfortunately when some hit that bottom Narconon aka Scientology is there with dollar signs in their eyes wanting to "help".
Quote from: Watcher on October 05, 2012, 17:56FYI I am not now nor have I ever been accociated with Scientology or Narconon. I have had a realitive that went through drug rehab in Georgia, they went to Peachford, he has been drug free for over 20 years now. It upsets me that places like Narconon exist and takes advantage of people when that are at their lowest. Sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom for people to get help and unfortunately when some hit that bottom Narconon aka Scientology is there with dollar signs in their eyes wanting to "help". You hit the nail on the head, Watcher. Narconon is taking advantage of people at their most vulnerable of moments. Initially, those involved with Narconon may have had good intentions. After multiple accounts of negligence and deaths, it's time for accountability. The entire scam is aimed at "money and recruitment" to quote Luke.
Mary McC - for collecting these together.
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Georgia's Department of Community Health Commissioner David Cook told Channel 2 investigative reporter Jodie Fleischer a dozen complaints filed during the past decade, and even Narconon advertising itself as a long-term residential facility, wasn't enough proof to take action in the past. "I think this was a close call," said Cook, "Holding themselves out as a residential treatment center versus actually running one, I think, was an important distinction, legally."He pointed out state investigators do not have subpoena power, and are often left to rely on facilities being truthful."Maybe this is one of the fundamental things that could come out of this case. They don't have a whole lot of teeth, to deal with these drug and alcohol facilities that aren't being candid with them," said attorney Jeff Harris.Harris represents Colleen and Rick Desmond, who are suing Narconon over their son Patrick's death."Across this country, internationally, I would love to see every Narconon shut down," said Colleen Desmond.Cook said he would consider asking legislators to include drug rehab facilities in last year's expansion of Georgia law toughening regulations on nursing homes."I think it's always good to take a look at things, I would not rule that out," said Cook."It's an issue that we're going to be looking at. I think there are a lot of facets both within licensing and in terms of other areas like fraud. Licensing doesn't regulate fraud," Cook added.Health care attorney Brian McEvoy disagrees."In my experience, generally, fraud would be grounds for revocation of a license." He added that more investigation is needed."It is difficult to understand the reasons the state has taken the actions that it has, or more importantly has not taken any action," McEvoy said.