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Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« on: March 06, 2013, 10:51 »
Narconon Texas.
I have a bunch of information about this facility.
They are now a facility run by Narconon Fresh Start and I believe they add the income and expenses of it into the 990 forms of Fresh Start.
I have the corporate papers detailing all this. It's along story.

In TX, they go by the fictitious name Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch
http://www.drugrehabtexas.com/

They were in the news recently
Judge Thinks Sending Tom Corea to Cushy Rehab 20 Miles from Mexico Isn't a Very Good Idea     By Eric Nicholson Wed., Nov. 21 2012 at 12:49 PM
Categories: Crime, Legal Battles
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/11/_tom_corea_the_last.php
Narconon Fresh Start took over the facility in 2009 or so. There are two TX entities.

I wrote to the reporter and several TX state officials regarding this facility but never heard a word back from any of them. There were attachments so maybe they wound up their spam folders. Perhaps I need to resend it .

Here is what I wrote:

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Re: Jailed, disbarred lawyer Thomas Corea would rather be at controversial drug rehab facility tied to Church of Scientology
Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:05 AM
From:
"Mary McConnell" <xscilentologist@yahoo.com>
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To: mike.maples@dshs.state.tx.us, Kathy.Perkins@dshs.state.tx.us, Ellen.Cooper@dshs.state.tx.us, hfc.complaints@dshs.state.tx.us, Jacob.Harris@dallascounty.org
Cc: sgoldstein@dallasnews.com


To:
Mike Maples, Assistant Commissioner for Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services,  Texas Department of State Health Services

Kathryn Perkins,  Assistant Commissioner for Regulatory Services, Texas Department of State Health Services

Ellen Cooper, Facility Licensing Group Manager, Mental Health and Substance Abuse Division, Texas Department of State Health Services

Texas Department of State Health Services,Substance Abuse Compliance Group, Substance Abuse Facility Investigations

Jacob Harris, Assistant District Attorney - Dallas County

Scott Goldstein, Reporter- The Dallas Morning News

Dear all,

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

I am writing to you after reading an excellent article by Scott Goldstein  which mentions Narconon's Texas facility called Lone Star Victory Ranch. I believe you need to be aware that the program is being run illegally in the State of Texas, without license. I ask that this be facility and it's program be investigated fully. I have been concerned that this program has lied to the state in order to operate without a license. This would not be the first time a Narconon program has operated illegally. A recent investigative article on Narconon in NV shows it is completely unregulated
http://ortegaunderground.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/nathan-baca/

Here is the article by Mr. Goldstein, which explains how Narconon was brought up in this case:
Jailed, disbarred lawyer Thomas Corea would rather be at controversial drug rehab facility tied to Church of Scientology
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/jailed-disbarred-lawyer-thomas-corea-would-rather-be-at-controversial-drug-rehab-facility-tied-to-church-of-scientology.html/

There are approximately 10 Narconon programs across the USA, all of which have been and are currently involved in lawsuits against them. These facilities are being sued for a variety of serious issues such as fraud, RICO, negligence, wrongful death, deceptive trade practices, wage violations, among other things. There are 4 ongoing wrongful death lawsuits; 3 of the deaths occurred  within 9 months of each other at their Oklahoma facility. You can see a recent Dateline MSNBC Rock Center report about these deaths here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thg31Lp4yB4

In another death case, in Georgia, the court found that the facility lied to drug courts in order to obtain patients. This included lying about their license to these courts. This case is mentioned further down here, regarding sanctions levied against the facility for lying and not providing documents as required by the court.

I can send you the court documents on all these cases if needed.

I have attached several documents of import which I hope you will take a few minutes to review. These related to the Texas facility and a copy of the sanctions decision in Georgia.

One is a 2010 Q&A response to me from a former staff member of the Texas facility. It is very important that you read this to see what this facility is doing you your State. While they do send out some patients to medical detox, the majority of patients ( they call them students) are detoxed at the facility. This is without medical supervision. They will do whatever they can to avoid medical detox because they are anti-medication. Patients are actually taken off their prescribed medicines by general staff members, not licensed personnel, when they arrive, no matter what the medicine is for. This is a major issue people have with the program.
People are doing detox and rehabilitation without the required evidence based criteria and somehow the state has allowed this to go on.

Two of the attached are documents related to registration with the Texas Secretary of State, showing responsible entities for the Texas facility.

One is a copy of a 2012 press release from the facility, inplying that they are a drug education program working with some drug courts in TX.
Another is a copy of one of their websites.

Next is a copy of a decision for sanctions by Dekalb County GA Superior Court against Narconon of Georgia for lying throughout theb case and for intentionally not providing documents as requested by the court. The sanctions are most severe. Narconon's responses are being stricken from the record, so in essence, they admit guilt. This type of sanction is considered to be the death penalty of civil law. You can read about this case here and Google search the news for many other related articles.

Narconon punished, stripped of defense in civil case
Friday, Nov. 9, 2012
http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/narconon-punished-stripped-defense-civil-case/nS2rW/
Inside Scientology's Rehab Racket
http://www.thefix.com/content/narconons-big-con?page=all

I also attached a copy of one of the TX facility's websites.

Read the program steps and materials, along with what they entail here:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,9728.msg22269.html#msg22269

There are significant dangers regarding the large amounts of vitamins these patients are required to take as they get off the drugs. Here is the list of vitamins that Narconon says is necessary for drug addicts to take when they stop taking drugs. Note that the list of vitamins posted on their web site is supposed to be taken 4 times a day.
In other words, 1,000 mg of niacinamide x 4 times daily = 4,000 mg daily, and so on, for all the vitamins listed below.
http://www.narconon-europa.net/drugbomb.htm

During the program sauna component, the patient takes up to 5,000mgs/day of Niacin.
"Is Narconon Safe? Dangerous detoxification"
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/detox.htm

If you search for Narconon in the Texas State licensing database, you will see that it has 2 entries and both show that the license was retired.

Search Criteria     Search By Name
Organization Name:     Narconon
Name     License Number     License Rank     Status     Expiration Date
Narconon South Texas, Inc.     2333     Treatment Head Quarters     Retired   
Narconon South Texas, Inc.     2256     Treatment Head Quarters     Retired
https://vo.dshs.state.tx.us/datamart/searchByNameTXRAS.do
https://vo.dshs.state.tx.us/datamart/selSearchTypeTXRAS.do?from=loginPage

Narconon is not a licensed program and does not meet the criteria for any exemptions for licensure, as listed in25 TAC §448.401:
Texas Administrative Code
TITLE 25    HEALTH SERVICES
PART 1    DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES
CHAPTER 448    STANDARD OF CARE
SUBCHAPTER D    FACILITY LICENSURE INFORMATION
RULE §448.401    License Required
http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=25&pt=1&ch=448&rl=401

I have read the following and believe that
Latest guidance regarding 25 Texas Administrative Code (TAC), §448.401(b).
https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=8589969904

[..] A substance abuse treatment facility may be any facility that offers treatment for persons with chemical dependency. Texas Health and Safety Code, Chapter 464, requires facilities providing substance abuse treatment services to be licensed by the Texas Department of State Health Services (Department).[..]

[..] The Substance Abuse Facility Licensing Group develops rules that establish minimum standards for substance abuse treatment facility licensing procedures and registration procedures for faith-based exempt programs; for granting, denying, suspending and revoking a license; for licensing fees; and for operation and care. [..]
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/substance.shtm

The counselors are not licensed per Texas regulations, either.

You can see that Narconon International lists this program on their website and that it's not listed as an educational program as some others there are.
http://www.narconon.org/narconon-centers/united-states.html :

Drug Rehab Center - Texas

Narconon South Texas
17697 ABD Road
Harlingen, TX 78552
Phone: Toll-Free 1-866-938-3927
Phone: (956) 423-2853
Fax: (956) 365-3022
Email: narconon.southtexa@sbcglobal.net
Website: http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/
Narconon Drug Rehab Center South Texas

Again, it is my hope that you will investigate how this facility has been able to operate in the State of Texas when they are running a detoxification and residential program in your state.  I would appreciate it if you would let me know what will be done to look into this.

Thank you.

Mary McConnell
Volunteer Advocate For Victims of Narconon
http://reaching4.info

Entity Information:  NARCONON FRESH START
17697 ABD RD
HARLINGEN, TX 78552-1753
 
Status: IN GOOD STANDING - EXEMPT ENTITY 
Registered Agent: JOSEPH SAUCEDA
17697 ABD RD.
HARLINGEN, TX 78553
Registered Agent Resignation Date: 
State of Formation: CA
File Number: 0801241956 
SOS Registration Date: March 10, 2010
Taxpayer Number: 32041405179


https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Narconon%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32041405179

Entity Information:  NARCONON SOUTH TEXAS, INC.
PO BOX 530597
HARLINGEN, TX 78553-0597
 
Status: IN GOOD STANDING - EXEMPT ENTITY 
Registered Agent: JUAN D. VILLARREAL
17697 ABD RD
HARLINGEN, TX 78552
Registered Agent Resignation Date: 
State of Formation: TX
File Number: 0800203203 
SOS Registration Date: May 13, 2003
Taxpayer Number: 17531528689
https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Narconon%20&Button=search&Search_ID=17531528689

Entity Information:  NARCONON-AUSTIN
1213 N IH 35
AUSTIN, TX 78702-1001
 
Status: NO STANDING, FRANCHISE RESPONSIBILITY ENDED 
Registered Agent: ROBERT D. KIZER
1213 NORTH IH-35
AUSTIN, TX 78702
Registered Agent Resignation Date: 
State of Formation: TX
File Number: 0801167613 
SOS Registration Date: September 8, 2009
Taxpayer Number: 32040251889
https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Narconon%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32040251889

http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/facility.php

Grand opening held for new Narconon center in Harlingen | program, drug, thomason - Local News - Valley Morning Star
October 31, 2008 - 12:27 AM
By DAISY MARTINEZ/Valley Morning Star


17697 ABD Road off of Rangerville Road.

http://www.valleymorningstar.com/news/program_38103___article.html/drug_thomason.html

http://www.narconon.org/drug-rehab/texas/

[..]Fortunately, there is now help for Texas. Six years ago, a new Narconon drug and alcohol rehabilitation center was opened in Harlingen, Texas. Harlingen is located just a stone's throw from two of the heaviest drug trafficking corridors in the country: Brownsville and McAllen.

This Narconon is the only residential facility in the area for those who are determined to kick their addictions and live clean and sober lives. Most of those choosing this Narconon for their recovery from substance abuse come from Texas, Florida, New Mexico and New York. Many Texans who have encountered legal problems necessitating residence in the state solve the dilemma by selecting this Narconon drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility.

Harlingen is served by its own international airport, making transportation to the rehabilitation facility simple. As many as 22 individuals can seek a drug-free life at any one time, and they are serviced by 12 staff. Four staff are Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors. In the last six years, nearly 50 people have graduated to their new drug-free lives.

The facility maintains a home-like atmosphere, with one portion of the house being allocated for women who are overcoming addiction, and one wing being devoted to male residents. The grounds include a gym, volleyball court, swimming pool and laundry. Seventeen acres of Old West terrain surround the drug rehabilitation facility, providing privacy and space to walk and relax.



http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/south-texas-drug-addiction.html


https://secure.idocket.com


Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch

Quickcard: Narconon South Texas, Inc.
Employer Identification Number (EIN):
75-3152568
Address (as of 2007):
1214 Dixieland Road, 6
Harlingen, TX
78552
United States
Proclamation Narconon DAy
http://www.myharlingen.us/docs/1-Agenda_021710regmtg.pdf

Narconon Texas
Drug Rehabilitation and Education Services
1214 Dixieland Rd Suite 6
Harlington, TX 78552
E-mail: narconon.southtexa@sbcglobal.net
1-866-938-3927
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/court.php
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/

The Narconon New Life Detoxification Program is a specialized sauna cleansing process that helps eliminate stored drug residues and physical cravings for drugs.
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/facility.php
I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 12:13 »
Ok, so NN So Tx got absorbed into NN Fresh Start, and let their license to operate evaportate into 'Retired' status. Since this wasn't just a business name change, the IRS should have been notified NN So Tx was gone, and turned in their EIN number.

The new Texas operation should either be operating under NN Fresh Starts EIN, if they are reporting under NN FS's 990's, or submitted the paper work to get their own. Keeping an EIN active for a business that's gone, and has not just changed names, can be considered fraud.

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 12:22 »
Ok, so NN So Tx got absorbed into NN Fresh Start, and let their license to operate evaportate into 'Retired' status. Since this wasn't just a business name change, the IRS should have been notified NN So Tx was gone, and turned in their EIN number.

The new Texas operation should either be operating under NN Fresh Starts EIN, if they are reporting under NN FS's 990's, or submitted the paper work to get their own. Keeping an EIN active for a business that's gone, and has not just changed names, can be considered fraud.

The IRS knows. They include info in their 990 that they serve TX.
Take a look here. Scroll down:  http://www.treatmentthatworks.com/

I am going to upload some TX dox right now so you can see what they did and how with TX. They filed all the appropriate documents with the state in beginning in 2010.

The retirement thing has nothing to do with Fresh Start taking over. It was there in the registry before Fresh Start took over
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 13:20 »
I hate uploading this stuf to scribd. So time consuming. Anyway, some background  documents. Not all that I have but most relevant to your questions and for basic understanding of the scene in TX :

Narconon Southern California  files Feb 2010 application for registration as a foreign non-profit corporation in Texas. See attached letter dated Mar 2, 2008 from Narconon South Texas Chairman of the Board, Juan Villarreal of Narconon South Texas allowing Narconon Southern California  to operate in TX using the name Narconon Southern California and the Name Narconon in the state of Texas.  See the document in my scribd where subsequently, Narconon So Cal informs the state of legal name change to Narconon Fresh Start.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128918425/Narconon-Southern-California-application-for-registration-as-a-foreign-non-profit-corporation-operating-in-Texas


Narconon Southern California assumed name certificate in Texas
In 2010 Narconon Southern California ( current legal name of Narconon Fresh Start ) files assumed name certificate with state of Texas for the name Lone Star Victory Ranch
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128918414/Narconon-Southern-California-assumed-name-certificate-in-Texas

Narconon South Texas original 2003 Corporation filing with State of Texas
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128918419/Narconon-South-Texas-original-2003-Corporation-filing-with-State-of-Texas

Narconon South Texas aka Lone Star Victory Ranch website, since suspended.www.lifewithoutdrugs.net .
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128911535/Narconon-South-Texas-aka-Lone-Star-Victory-Ranch-website-www-lifewithoutdrugs-net

Run by Narconon Fresh Start, formerly known as Narconon Southern California. This account is not accessible now . The link takes you to a page that says:
"Account Suspended    This Account Has Been Suspended "
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

Whois report:
Last Updated on: 05-Jan-13
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=lifewithoutdrugs.net

This facility operates without a facility license.

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 13:41 »

Interesting their license to operate is 'Retired'. The IRS Select Check for eligible exempt organizations still has them listed:

EIN:
75-3152868    Narconon South Texas Inc.      Harlingen    TX

A quick check of the ERI database shows they were granted the exempt status June 2009, still active, but does not list any Form 990's for them. No 990 info on Guidestar either, although they also show NN South Tx as active.

Which is strange for an organization with a 'Retired' license to operate.

Narconon Fresh Start (formerly Narconon Southern California)
2010 990 form received by IRS in Nov 2011

"Narconon Fresh Start operates five drug rehabilitation facilities
delivering the Narconon drug rehabilitation program under a trademark
license from Narconon International. This unique 3-to-5 month program
includes a detoxification procedure and courses in life skills. During the year more than 600 individuals received approximately 509,600 hours of drug rehabilitation services including over 6,000 life skills courses, enabling them to lead more ethical and drug-free lives."
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/330/330911677/330911677_201012_990.pdf

Those 5 facilities are:

NN NV Rainbow Canyon
NN Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch
NN Sunshine Summit Lodge
NN JLB Ranch
NN huntington harbor house
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 14:04 »
That same 2010 Form 990 also shows a "Grant" of $20,000 from NN Fresh Start to NN So Tx. It'd be interesting to know if that happened before, or after, NN So Tx's license to operate in TX was 'Retired'.

But the point remains, NN Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch is a DBA for NN Fresh Start in Texas, not a renaming of NN So Tx, and it's income is bundled into the NN Fresh Start 990 reporting. So it would fall under NN Fresh Start's EIN, not NN So Tx.

So why does NN So TX, an outfit that's officially not in operation according to the state of Texas, still have an active EIN in the IRS Exempt Organization database?

I smell 'shenanigans'.
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 14:34 »
That same 2010 Form 990 also shows a "Grant" of $20,000 from NN Fresh Start to NN So Tx. It'd be interesting to know if that happened before, or after, NN So Tx's license to operate in TX was 'Retired'.

But the point remains, NN Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch is a DBA for NN Fresh Start in Texas, not a renaming of NN So Tx, and it's income is bundled into the NN Fresh Start 990 reporting. So it would fall under NN Fresh Start's EIN, not NN So Tx.

So why does NN So TX, an outfit that's officially not in operation according to the state of Texas, still have an active EIN in the IRS Exempt Organization database?

I smell 'shenanigans'.

Before NN FS took over, NN ST was in bad financial shape. Narconon wound up going in and taking over as thinbgs got worse. It's not inconceivable that FS gave them a grant to try and catch up, before all faled. I know all this because I had a tipster writing me of his time there at NN ST and the problems going on, including staff not geting paid, then FS coming in and all of a sudden they have a new employer.

I must stress to you that the license retirements most likely have nothing to do with Fresh Start coming on the scene. We do not know the exact date of when the licenses were retired but I recall seeing the listing back in 2008, before Narconon So Cal came along and took over. I believe they were retired because they were found upon renewal to not be qualified to have facility and chose to retire the license in the hopes of reactivating it when they had staff who could meet the strict drug counseling licensing requirements :
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/lcdc/
http://www.ehow.com/how_6680341_become-substance-abuse-counselor-texas.html
Substance Abuse Facility License Application
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=8589935258

Substance Abuse Facility License Checklist
Residential Applicant PDF
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=8589935257

Substance Abuse Facility Closure Information
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=8589935259

 
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 16:44 »
"Before NN FS took over, NN ST was in bad financial shape."

Do we know what got them in bad shape?  Large salaries, rents to scientology owners of the building, narconon money going to the church for staff auditing?
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2013, 20:06 »
"Before NN FS took over, NN ST was in bad financial shape."

Do we know what got them in bad shape?  Large salaries, rents to scientology owners of the building, narconon money going to the church for staff auditing?

I don't know the particulars. It was a privately owned facility before Fresh Start took it over.
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2016, 19:04 »
Texas Department of State Health Services:
https://vo.ras.dshs.state.tx.us/datamart/selSearchTypeTXRAS.do?from=loginPage

Narconon South Texas, Inc. 2333 Treatment Head Quarters Retired
Narconon South Texas, Inc. 2256 Treatment Head Quarters Retired

Looks like they're not currently licensed.

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 09:25 »
That's good news, but I wonder if they're still operating without one, or if they've changed their name.  I wish there was a way to search these licenses by address (and not just for Texas; that would be helpful for ALL the state licensings).

Thanks for keeping up with this, DH.
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 11:30 »
I wish there was a way to search these licenses by address (and not just for Texas; that would be helpful for ALL the state licensings).
Searching for Substance Abuse licenses in Harlingen, there are other places, but none that seem to be a stealth Narconon. Call them and ask what the heck they're doing these days?

California, Michigan and Florida seem to be the high value targets for accessing state directories. I love California's new system, Michigan is okay, and Florida won't talk to me, wah!

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2016, 10:20 »
Searching for Substance Abuse licenses in Harlingen, there are other places, but none that seem to be a stealth Narconon. Call them and ask what the heck they're doing these days?

I'm not gonna call them!  I get enough spam to my known email addresses that I suspect they put me on the lists for.  I don't want my phone to get any more junk calls than it already does!  LOL.

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California, Michigan and Florida seem to be the high value targets for accessing state directories. I love California's new system, Michigan is okay, and Florida won't talk to me, wah!

You need a US-based proxy for Florida, I guess.  I wonder if there's anything I can do to help with that?  It would have to be something that could be automated, though, and not require much manual intervention, because I have too much on my plate right now as it is.  Feel free to PM me if you have any ideas.
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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2016, 16:30 »
You need a US-based proxy for Florida, I guess.  I wonder if there's anything I can do to help with that?  It would have to be something that could be automated, though, and not require much manual intervention, because I have too much on my plate right now as it is.  Feel free to PM me if you have any ideas.
I can probably manage. The question is, does Florida have an online list of current rehab licenses?

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Re: Narconon in Texas. Lone Star Victory Ranch
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2016, 20:19 »
I can probably manage. The question is, does Florida have an online list of current rehab licenses?

Try here: http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/samh/substanceabuse/docs/LicensedSAProvidersByCity.pdf
They also have a list of recovery residences if you need it.
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