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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2014, 09:11 »
So where does the seed money come from?

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2014, 13:56 »
Ping! Something on the radar!

19646 Kennedy Road, Caledon was the place where they stashed the Continental Liaison Office after moving out of the Toronto Org. It's been listed for sale a couple times, but no confirmation that they sold it and moved out to the AO or Cambridge.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-facility-at-caledon-ontario.91357/

Brad Melnychuck has two addiction domains with that address, but that could just be sloppiness.

This is newer:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-house-rental/city-of-toronto/looking-for-room-for-rent-in-caledonia-on/1007720214?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
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Date Listed 29-Jul-14
I will start work soon at Addictions Canada and was looking for room for rent for one month. The address is stated below:
19646 Kennedy Road, Caledon, ON L7K 1Y2
I was hoping to find a place near the address above.
If anything is available, please contact me at 519-819-1506

Hmm. It's possible some other non-Narconon rehab moved in. I dunno... *sniff*sniff*
http://www.addictioncanada.ca/locations.html

Their pictures for their Caledon location match. Some even still have the Hubbard crap on the walls.
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2014, 14:19 »
Hmm. It's possible some other non-Narconon rehab moved in. I dunno... *sniff*sniff*
If it is Addiction Canada, I've checked into them before. They are just as bad as Narconon, with identical horror stories (success rate lies, drugs, sex, violence, rape), and yet, no obvious Scientology connection. Apparently Christian-ish. The owner pops open new locations, runs them for a while, then skips on the rent or whatever, opens another under a different name.)

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-canada-pushes-for-new-narconon-in-ontario.109853/#post-2484682

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2014, 08:01 »
It's so annoying that Addiction Canada aka John Haines crossed paths with Scientology. If you read the complaints against them, it's like checking off boxes on a Narconon:

  • Drug referral agents working on commission. Check!
  • Multiple sock puppets defending the program. Check!
  • Former-ish addicts running the program. Check!
  • Drugs available. Check!
  • Unreported sexual assault. Check!
  • Bait & switch where promised programs aren't available. Check!
  • Ridiculous claims of success. Check!
  • Claiming (probably) bogus credentials. Check!
  • Frequent name changes to hide the past. Check!
  • Zoning/permit fights. Check!

But there are three important checkboxes unchecked: The TRs, Shouting at ashtrays, Pictures of LRH. If there was a Narconon connection those would be mentioned.

http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/

Without a physical look, it's hard to tell if this guy has even really bought Scientology's property. He shooped his sign over the real estate photo.

Before:


As always, I'm collecting domains, but I don't have a "Sleezebag drug rehabs that probably aren't Narconon" category.
howitworksrecovery.ca
www.addictioncanada.ca
www.muskokarecovery.com
www.pickerellakerecovery.com
www.pickerellakerecoveryreviews.ca
vitanovus.ca
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2014, 11:19 »
... "Sleezebag drug rehabs that probably aren't Narconon" category.

There are lots of those.    $O$

IMO, the good rehabs need to start participating in cleaning up their field, before the bad reputations of some tarnish them all.
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2014, 11:59 »
IMO, the good rehabs need to start participating in cleaning up their field, before the bad reputations of some tarnish them all.
That and some more standards groups cracking down hard like NAFC is.

Apparently Addiction Canada doesn't have any of the certifications or memberships whose logos it displays on its sites. Not even CARF! (Ha, how bad do you have to be that CARF won't touch it?) They do seem to have dropped the Addictions Professionals Association of Saskatchewan (APASK) logo that they had last year, so they hopefully received a legal nastygram.

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2014, 00:01 »
With all the Scieno Facebook noise about a new Narconon Ontario, I verified that the 19464 Kennedy Rd location (former CLO Canada) has an Addictions Canada, apparently non-Narconon, sign in front.


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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2015, 21:57 »
It looks like they tried to sneak in a place closer to Cambridge, and never checked the zoning laws with the local authorities. DENIED!

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/5298859-drug-and-rehab-facility-operator-going-to-omb-after-milton-application-denied/

Hopefully the OMB will turn them down. They're a corporation owned by the province government, but run like their own little private empire.

The only bit that bothers me is that this place has a capacity of 10, making it a mini-Narconon like those in Destin FL. The original place they wanted to buy in Ontario was much larger. Are they downplaying the capacity to fit bylaws until it's open then hoping to slowly up that number, or do they have another place that they're looking at?

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2015, 22:44 »
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According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2015, 09:12 »
Thanks to David Love for posting about this on ESMB
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38275-Canada-Scientology-going-to-OMB-after-application-for-Milton-rehab-being-denied

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Milton Canadian Champion
By Rachael Williams

Feb. 2, 2015

An application by a Scientology-based company to establish a drug and rehab facility in Milton is headed for a four-day hearing at the end of March to determine if the property owners can set up shop.

A Church of Scientology entity called Social Betterment Properties International has appealed a decision made by the Town’s Committee of Adjustment and Consent to use a property located at 7651 Milburough Line as a drug and rehabilitation facility. Called Narconon, meaning ‘no drugs’, the company treats addictions using nutritional and nutritional supplements, according to company representative Rubina Qureshi. [..]

[..] According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

“We would direct these types of uses to urban areas with full municipal services, better access to streets and more access to hospitals and ambulances,” said Koopmans. “They (Social Betterment Properties International) didn’t consult with staff before they acquired the property and, therefore, they wouldn’t have known what the permitted uses were for that area,” she said. [..]

[..]According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

“We would direct these types of uses to urban areas with full municipal services, better access to streets and more access to hospitals and ambulances,” said Koopmans. “They (Social Betterment Properties International) didn’t consult with staff before they acquired the property and, therefore, they wouldn’t have known what the permitted uses were for that area,” she said.

Qureshi said that there was no contact with Town staff because it was a “very small centre,” 10 people maximum, and would have “little to no impact on the community.”

The hearing on the controversy is scheduled to take place from March 30 to April 2. Aside from zoning issues, the company has made headlines in previous years for its “unconventional” approaches to treatment. In 2012, the Narconon Quebec location was shuttered after at least four clients were taken to hospital. According to a 2012 CBC media report, the company used lengthy sauna detox sessions and an excessive amount of vitamins to treat patients, as inspired by the teachings of Scientology.

This went against legal criteria for regulating Quebec’s rehab centres, as there was no medical supervision or scientific basis to the treatment, according to the CBC report. Qureshi said that the centre was shut down because of a change in the medical model of treating drug addiction in Quebec, which favoured drug replacement therapy instead of natural remedies.
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-st...going-to-omb-after-milton-application-denied/





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UPDATE:

Here is the definition Narconon is trying to get the planning committee to allow stretching to fit them
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GROUP HOME TYPE 2
Means a detached dwelling occupied by residents who live as a single housekeeping unit requiring specialized or group care, supervised on a daily basis, and which is licensed, approved or supervised, or funded by the Province of Ontario under any general or specialized Act and which shall be maintained and operated primarily for:
• Persons who require temporary care and transient or homeless persons; or
• Persons requiring treatment and rehabilitation for addiction to drugs or alcohol.
https://www.milton.ca/en/build/resources/zoning_text.pdf

Narconon is not licensed in Ontario
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2015, 13:40 »
They also have to stretch the occupancy limits for a type 2 group home:
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Qureshi said that there was no contact with Town staff because it was a “very small centre,” 10 people maximum, and would have “little to no impact on the community.”
The maximum for a type 2 group home is 8.
https://www.milton.ca/en/build/resources/By-law016-2014_UrbanArea_Text.pdf

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2015, 18:24 »
The OMB hearing was supposed to wrap up yesterday, but no update on the site yet. (No one would be working today.)

https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/english/eStatus/eStatus.html

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2015, 20:44 »
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2015, 22:31 »
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
Monday isn't a holiday. Where do they think they are, Quebec?

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2015, 00:42 »
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
Monday isn't a holiday. Where do they think they are, Quebec?

Could be. Where I live in the US local govt offices were closed today and will be open Moday, but county offices were open and will be closed Monday. Maybe OMB decided to take a break and close for both.
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2015, 03:06 »
While waiting for the OMB, I was filling in some blanks like corporate info.

Category:Narconon Ontario (I'll probably rename that to Narconon Canada.)

When having a look at Narconon Incorporated (Canada), which as a charity has to file information with Canada Revenue Agency, I notice that there's barely any activity listed for 2013--a few thousand to keep it ticking and keep their charity status.

There's no mention of anything related to the failed 2013 attempt to open a Narconon in Hockley Valley. It's obvious that it's just a shell.

In the Milton attempt, the only players mentioned are SBPI and ABLE. Nothing on who their local Narconon entity is. Either it's all by SBPI (who doesn't file Form 990s) or they have a new entity that we don't know about yet.

Sidenote: In one story, there was a Tim Lomas, spokesman of ABLE.
Narconon rehab strikes out in second Ontario town February 9, 2015, Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star

Really. And when did he stop being an OSA dirty-tricks operator?
https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2015, 18:32 »
While waiting for the OMB, I was filling in some blanks like corporate info.

Category:Narconon Ontario (I'll probably rename that to Narconon Canada.)

When having a look at Narconon Incorporated (Canada), which as a charity has to file information with Canada Revenue Agency, I notice that there's barely any activity listed for 2013--a few thousand to keep it ticking and keep their charity status.

There's no mention of anything related to the failed 2013 attempt to open a Narconon in Hockley Valley. It's obvious that it's just a shell.

In the Milton attempt, the only players mentioned are SBPI and ABLE. Nothing on who their local Narconon entity is. Either it's all by SBPI (who doesn't file Form 990s) or they have a new entity that we don't know about yet.

Sidenote: In one story, there was a Tim Lomas, spokesman of ABLE.
Narconon rehab strikes out in second Ontario town February 9, 2015, Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star

Really. And when did he stop being an OSA dirty-tricks operator?
https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology


There is an active corporation with a location but I don't know if they are operating a facility at this location, in bold below.

Corporations Canada
Federal Corporation Information - 536296

Corporation Number
536296
Business Number (BN)
107760142RC0001
Governing Legislation
Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act - 2014-10-16

Corporate Name
NARCONON, INCORPORATED
Status
Active

Registered Office Address
8285 HORNBY ROAD
GEORGETOWN ON L7G 4S5
Canada

Note: Active NFP Act corporations are required to update this information. Changes are only legally effective when filed with Corporations Canada. A corporation key is required.
Directors
Minimum
3
Maximum
6
Directors

    ERNEST WILKENS
    266 GLENLAKE AVENUE
    TORONTO ON M6P 1G1
    Canada

    CORINE NIELSEN
    659 DOLPH STREET NORTH
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 2B5
    Canada

    LAWRENCE DENSMORE
    12 JELLICOE AVENUE
    ETOBICOKE ON M8W 1W1
    Canada

    BRAD MELNYCHUK
    8285 HORNBY ROAD
    GEORGETOWN ON L7G 4S5
    Canada

Note: Active NFP Act corporations are required to update director information (names, addresses, etc.) within 15 days of any change. A corporation key is required.

Annual Filings
Anniversary Date (MM-DD)
10-16
Date of Last Annual Meeting
Not Available

Annual Filing Period (MM-DD)
10-16 to 12-15
Type of Corporation
Not Available
Status of Annual Filings

    2015 - Not due

Corporate History
Corporate Name History

    1972-11-07 to Present
    NARCONON, INCORPORATED

Certificates and Filings

    Certificate of Continuance
    2014-10-16
    Previous jurisdiction: Canada Corporations Act - Part II (CCA-II)
https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=536296&V_TOKEN=1430778145183&crpNm=Narconon&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=

Narconon Ottawa Valley Inc. was dissolved by Canada in 2015
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Annual Filing Period (MM-DD)
04-01 to 06-01
Type of Corporation
Not Available
Status of Annual Filings

    2014 - Overdue
    2013 - Overdue
    2012 - Overdue

Corporate History
Corporate Name History

    2007-06-21 to Present
    Narconon Ottawa Valley Inc.

    Incorporation
    2007-06-21
    Certificate of Dissolution
    2015-05-01

Status
Dissolved by Corporations Canada (s.222) on 2015-05-01
https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=4434536&V_TOKEN=1430778145183&crpNm=Narconon&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=

I do know of a home being used for the initial  book work in Ontario, and then they send them out to Narconon Freedom center for the sauna component on to complete from there. Unfortunately I do not have the details of the location but David Love may, as I sent the details to him over a year ago when I received a PM at Facebook about a guy whose wife did the program in both locations. The PMs I received were lost in a Facebook glitch when the husband deleted his account.

Re: Social Betterment Properties Int:

SBPI is not registered as a corp or foreign corp in Canada.  They are only the property owner of some Narconon facility locations. They do not run Narconon programs. They are a profit making corp, as far as I know.

In Canada, for the Hockley matter, they are ( like they are doing with Trout Run in Maryland ) using a Delaware profit making corp called West Coast Property Investments, Inc. when they apply for zoning related matters. 3rd degree of separation to keep officials away from the Narconon name.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2015, 16:00 »
Narconon, Incorporated has fiddled with their address and directors since last September. (Now at Brad Melnychuk's place.)

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Federal Corporation Information - 536296
Corporation Number
536296
Business Number (BN)
107760142RC0001
Governing Legislation
Canada Corporations Act - Part II- 1972-11-07
Expand: See Important Note
Corporate Name
NARCONON, INCORPORATED
Status
Active
Registered Office Address

1221 KING ST. E.
CAMBRIGE ON N3H 3P9
Canada
Directors

Minimum
3
Maximum
3
Directors

    ERNEST WILKENS
    266 GLENLAKE AVE.
    TORONTO ON M6P 1G1
    Canada

    LAWRENCE DENSWORE
    12 JELLICOE
    TORONTO ON M8W 1W1
    Canada

    Z. BRAD
    1221 KING ST .E
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 3P9
    Canada

    CORINE NIELSEN
    659 DOLPH ST. N.
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 2B5
    Canada
From their charity listings (equivalent of Form 990s), in recent years, they've only done a few thousand $$ worth of their "drug education" stuff every year to keep it active. (I haven't dug back to earlier years yet. I wish they'd provide PDF output.) It's just a shell.

For their Trout Run effort, at least Narconon EUS is visible. For Ontario, they're trying to open Narconons without any Narconon legal entity in sight.

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2015, 16:16 »
Aside: That John Haines / Addiction Canada non-Scientologist guy who moved into the old CLO Canada location at 19646 Kennedy Road in Caledon is having his problems, but Ontario doesn't seem very effective at enforcing anything against him.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/addiction-canada-ignores-government-orders-to-pay-ex-employees-1.3020956

It doesn't give me great confidence that Ontario would act against a Narconon if one ever gets open until they kill some people.

Still, I have to laugh. If CoS had kept the CLO Canada location, they could have moved in a Narconon without any zoning changes.

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Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2015, 10:41 »
And I'm happily wrong! They busted Addiction Canada for having people claiming to be medical doctors.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/wild-west-of-addiction-treatment

I think I've found Narconon's next claimed certification:
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The website claims the organization is “fully accredited” and has been recognized with a World Accreditation Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence (WAATME) seal.

WAATME described itself last fall as a new accrediting organization and a subsidiary of Old West Healthcare Partners in Wyoming. Its website states addiction treatment providers can receive its “distinguished” seal of approval in “THREE EASY STEPS:” declare they are not funded or influenced by pharmaceutical companies, complete a 1.5-hour online course, and pay a fee.
WAATME WORRY?