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Offline Mary_McConnell

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Hi Sunshine, I knew what you meant but it's impoortant to have timely documentation. I think you have proved that with your second post here.

What most of us who research this group of organizations has known is that they are connected and managed. There was enough documentation for Narconon International to be included in the Desmond case and the Oklahoma cases. Desmond case did not bother with EUS at the time of filing, as it has little money, but later on documentation came in showing they had a direct link between NN Int and the GA facility. So I always suggest attorneys include the regional branch ( EUS or WUS or whatever ) in their lawsuits as they have a plethora of local facility management documentation.

Keep digging. You are onto terrific information that will help in these cases and more to come.
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NN WUS and NN EUS are part of the NN Int Group Exemption Letter assigned Group Exemption Number (GEN) 2595. If you look in field "H(c)" on page 1 of the 990 you should see GEN 2595 entered. A slightly dated listing, and explanation of the relationships, follows. Note NN Int is 2595 03 6, while the subordinate organizations are 2595 03 9. Hope this helps understand the relationships:

Narconon Int is the Central, or Parent, organization to the group of Subordinate organizations covered by the Group Exemption Letter, which was assigned the Group Exemption Number 2595. If their Form 990 is only for themselves, then field H(a) should be checked 'No', and the GEN doesn't have to be entered. If H(a) is 'Yes', the 990 is also for subordinate organizations the the GEN is entered so the IRS will know which group of subordinate organizations to look at. Subordinate organizations always have to include the GEN.

Some time back I dumped the IRS Select Check Exempt Organization by Area (EOA) databases (a bit under 500MB of data) and pulled a sample of Narconons from it (minus the data between the 'Affiliate' code and 'DBA' name that's not relevent to this discussion). The basic format is:

EIN, Organization Name, Address, GEN, SubCode, Affiliate Code, NTEE (if used), DBA Name
The explanations of the codes follows the list.

Central/Parent Organization to GEN 2595:
952769582 NARCONON INT 4652 HOLLYWD BLVD LOS ANGELES CA 90027-5408 2595 03 6 F20

Subordinate Organizations to GEN 2595:
954853440 NARCONON INT 13850 GRABER AVE SYLMAR CA 91342-2622 2595 03 9 NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATI
954536141 NARCONON INT 622 E VILLA ST PASADENA CA 91101-1120 2595 03 9 FRIENDS OF NARCONON
770275827 NARCONON INT 262 GAFFEY RD WATSONVILLE CA 95076-9731 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
731690918 NARCONON INT 611 S FT HARISN AVE CLEARWATER FL 33756-5301 2595 03 9 NARCONON EASTERN UNITED STATES
731589280 NARCONON INT 69 ARROWHEAD LOOP CANADIAN OK 74425-5012 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF OKLAHOMA
651238009 NARCONON INT 225 W BROADWAY STE 420 GLENDALE CA 91204-1331 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON WESTERN UNITED STATES
593035096 NARCONON INT 22073 US HIGHWAY 19 N CLEARWATER FL 33765-2364 2595 03 9 NARCONON FLORIDA
550828683 NARCONON INT 4652 HOLLYWOOD BLVD LOS ANGELES CA 90027-5408 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON OF WEST HOLLYWOOD
421534941 NARCONON INT 5688 PEACHTREE PKWY NORCROSS GA 30092-2848 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF GEORGIA
330911677 NARCONON INT 225 W BROADWAY STE 420 GLENDALE CA 91204-1331 2595 03 9 NARCONON FRESH START
042606410 NARCONON INT 76 WINN ST STE 2C WOBURN MA 01801-2868 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON BOSTON

Independent Organizations:
743193939 NARCONON JOSHUA HILLS PO BOX 13075 PALM DESERT CA 92255-3075 0000 03 3 F22
204122923 NARCONON LOUISIANA NEW LIFE RETREAT 35059 BEND RD DENHAM SPGS LA 70706-0655 0000 03 3 F22 NARCONON LOUISIANA


Group Exemption Number:
2595 - Narconon International and subordinate Narconon's Group Exemption Number
0000 - Organization is not part of a group exemption, e.g., Narconon Joshua Hills.
Licensed by Narconon Int, but (on paper anyway) not controlled by it.

SubSection:
03 - Charitable Organizations

Affiliate:
6 - Central - This code is used if the organization is a parent of a group ruling. In this case EIN 952769582
9 - Subordinate - This code is used if the organization is a subordinate in a group ruling.
3 - Independent - This code is used if the organization is an independent organization or auxiliary
(i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations).

National Taxonomy of Exempt Entities - Core Codes (NTEE-CC):
F - Mental Health & Crisis Intervention
Alchohol/Substance Abuse
F20 - Substance Abuse Dependency, Prevention & Treatment
F21 - Substance Abuse Prevention
F22 - Substance Abuse Treatment
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David Miscavige, you’ve been served: Leader of Scientology will need to respond to NAFC suit - The Underground Bunker
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What’s it like to try and serve Scientology leader David Miscavige with a lawsuit? We now have a pretty good idea.

Back in May, the National Association of Forensic Counselors filed a lawsuit against 82 defendants, including Miscavige, as well as various entities and people associated with Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon.

The lawsuit accuses Scientology of conspiring to misuse the NAFC’s logo and trademarks in order to make Narconon appear more legitimate than it is, and ultimately to draw more people into Scientology itself.

more, including video at http://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/david-miscavige-youve-been-served-leader-of-scientology-will-need-to-respond-to-nafc-suit/
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I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Classic is right! This looks to be straight out of the scientology harassment-by-litigation playbook.

Classic Scientology shenanigans as class action lawsuit is filed against legal opponent NAFC - The Underground Bunker - Tony Ortega
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Wasn’t it just yesterday we made the point that Scientology is incapable of evolving into a more benign form?

For you connoisseurs of classic Scientology legal chicanery, you’re going to love the full body and complex flavors of this vintage.

Yesterday, the National Association of Forensic Counselors filed a pointed response to Scientology leader David Miscavige’s motion to dismiss himself from the NAFC’s massive 82-defendant federal lawsuit against the church and its drug rehab network, Narconon.

As we told you earlier, Miscavige’s motion had been written by one of Scientology’s most colorful legal voices, Jeffrey K. Riffer, who made a name for himself writing bombastic, over-the-top letters to Vanity Fair and CNN in which he made his client, Miscavige, sound more holy than the saints in heaven. And the motion also contained a smeary attack on the NAFC’s president, Karla Taylor, which we expected NAFC attorney David Keesling to answer rather forcefully.

He did do that, but in his response, Keesling also referred to a stunning new development: On October 6, Clark Carr, the president of Narconon International (pictured above and characterized as a “Miscavige lackey” by Keesling), quietly filed a class action lawsuit against the NAFC and Taylor in Los Angeles Superior Court, claiming fraud and alleging that his fellow (unnamed) victims number in the untold hundreds.
more, including docs at http://tonyortega.org/2014/11/14/classic-scientology-shenanigans-as-class-action-lawsuit-is-filed-against-legal-opponent-nafc/

For those unfamiliar with scientology's litigious history, a few resources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_the_legal_system
http://umbraxenu.wiki-site.com/index.php/Scientology_lawsuits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thriving_Cult_of_Greed_and_Power
http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-spring-2001/scientology-defamation-laws
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html
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Funny Narconon would cite the Pennsylvania case.

16. In 2002, the state of Pennsylvania denied the petition of Taylor and
5 Deisler to be recognized to certify drug and alcohol counselors. Most importantly, they
6 falsely stated that NAFC certificates were recognized by the state of California.

From  http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-commonwealth-court/1163422.html

Dr. Deisler further testified that Petitioner is approved in the States of California, Oregon, Washington and Alabama as a certifying body for alcohol and drug abuse counselors.   In addition, Petitioner certifies the drug abuse counselors in the United States Army and is the only certification body for the United States Coast Guard's family advocacy program for addictions counselors and domestic violence.   Petitioner also certifies the Federal Bureau of Probation and Parole and a number of other State probation and parole departments.   Dr. Deisler also noted that the State of Indiana, which is where Petitioner is based, recognized Petitioner for the purposes of “grandfathering” in the licenses of mental health counselors.

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Funny Narconon would cite the Pennsylvania case.

16. In 2002, the state of Pennsylvania denied the petition of Taylor and
5 Deisler to be recognized to certify drug and alcohol counselors. Most importantly, they
6 falsely stated that NAFC certificates were recognized by the state of California.

From  http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-commonwealth-court/1163422.html

Dr. Deisler further testified that Petitioner is approved in the States of California, Oregon, Washington and Alabama as a certifying body for alcohol and drug abuse counselors.   In addition, Petitioner certifies the drug abuse counselors in the United States Army and is the only certification body for the United States Coast Guard's family advocacy program for addictions counselors and domestic violence.   Petitioner also certifies the Federal Bureau of Probation and Parole and a number of other State probation and parole departments.   Dr. Deisler also noted that the State of Indiana, which is where Petitioner is based, recognized Petitioner for the purposes of “grandfathering” in the licenses of mental health counselors.

I don't see where they falsely testified in the PA case, or where found to have done do. Not at the time of this case, in 2002/2003



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David Keesling tells us there’s a fascinating bit of sleight of hand going on here. He says that Carr is mischaracterizing the NAFC’s status in California — though Keesling did acknowledge that the NAFC fell off of a particular list of recommended credentialing organizations assembled by the state. The reason? Because of the NAFC’s association with Scientology.

Many of our readers will be familiar with Nanette Asimov’s epic 2004 series about Narconon in the San Francisco Chronicle which motivated the state of California to take a hard look at the drug rehab network. The state didn’t like what it saw, and as a result, the NAFC was dropped from a list of approved organizations. Here, we’ll let Keesling give a more complete version of it in a statement he sent us yesterday…
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    In 2005, the California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs (CA ADP) adopted regulations mandating certain requirements for alcohol and other drug addiction counselors (AODA). Included in these regulations was a list of certifying bodies that were approved by the CA ADP for AODA counselor certification in the State of California.

    Prior to the adoption of these regulations, the CA ADP did not “recognize” or “approve” any certifying body; however, they maintained a “Directory of Alcohol and Other Drug Counselor Certifying Organizations” which stated, in part, “California does not regulate the credentialing or certification of treatment and recovery counselors, nor does it accredit organizations that provide certification services…However, the AOD field has developed a variety of private sector counselor credentialing and certifying organizations in order to meet the need for specialized counselors …You are encouraged to contact these organizations to obtain additional information regarding their certification requirements and services.”

    The NAFC and the NBAE were included in this Directory.

    In January of 2005, the California Department of Education released a report on the Narconon Drug Abuse Prevention Program (NDAP) conducted by the California Healthy Kids Resource Center. The NDAP was found to be “inaccurate,” contained “misleading drug-related information,” and “does not reflect accurate, widely accepted medical and scientific evidence…”

    Consequently, it was found that the NDAP was not appropriate and should not be presented to students in the California school system. Contained within the NADP High School Curriculum were the following false statements regarding the credentialing of Narconon presenters by the NAFC/NBAE:

    • Why Narconon Drug Education in Our Schools?…Use of Trained Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors with Years of Experience Working with High School Student.

    • Most of the Narconon presenters have a wealth of experience:…have worked professionally in the drug rehab field and are CCDCs (Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors)

    Within a few months of this report on the NDAP, the NAFC was excluded from the opportunity to be included on the new list of approved certifying bodies. The NAFC was not even given the opportunity to apply for inclusion on this new list developed for the newly adopted regulations, even though the NAFC had been previously included in the California Directory and met and/or exceeded the new requirements for approval of certifying organizations.

So, here’s the upshot. Keesling is saying that it was its association with Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, that got the NAFC caught up in a bureaucratic roadblock in California. But now the president of Scientology’s Narconon International is suing the NAFC, claiming that the NAFC’s complications with California are an example of the NAFC’s fraud. Do you see the circularity of that?

Keesling tells us that yesterday, he had Carr’s class action lawsuit removed to federal court, and he says he’s confident that the NAFC will succeed in getting it dismissed.

Can you explain?
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Michigan seeks to pull rapist's psychologist license - Detroit Free Press
By Paul Egan, Detroit Free Press   May 27, 2015
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LANSING — A repeat rapist who lied on his state application has been a licensed psychologist in Michigan for more than 20 years, the State of Michigan says in a complaint laying the groundwork to remove his license.

Francis John Deisler, who is based in Indiana but has also worked in Michigan under a limited license, has convictions for rape in Wisconsin in 1973 and 1974, plus a 1973 conviction for armed robbery and multiple 1974 convictions for burglary and attempted burglary, according to an administrative complaint filed by the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs on May 7.

In his 1993 application for a Michigan psychologist's license, Deisler, who was sentenced to 15 years in prison, said he had never been convicted of a crime and provided an inaccurate birth date and social security number, the complaint alleges.

Deisler could not be reached for comment, but an attorney representing an association Deisler founded said Deisler has always presented himself as a product of rehabilitation and has not tried to hide his criminal past.

more at http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/
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I sent the reporter a little email.:-)
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Michigan seeks to pull rapist's psychologist license - Detroit Free Press
By Paul Egan, Detroit Free Press   May 27, 2015
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LANSING — A repeat rapist who lied on his state application has been a licensed psychologist in Michigan for more than 20 years, the State of Michigan says in a complaint laying the groundwork to remove his license.

Francis John Deisler, who is based in Indiana but has also worked in Michigan under a limited license, has convictions for rape in Wisconsin in 1973 and 1974, plus a 1973 conviction for armed robbery and multiple 1974 convictions for burglary and attempted burglary, according to an administrative complaint filed by the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs on May 7.

In his 1993 application for a Michigan psychologist's license, Deisler, who was sentenced to 15 years in prison, said he had never been convicted of a crime and provided an inaccurate birth date and social security number, the complaint alleges.

Deisler could not be reached for comment, but an attorney representing an association Deisler founded said Deisler has always presented himself as a product of rehabilitation and has not tried to hide his criminal past.

more at http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/
What a mess.

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Unfortunately, there is more:

A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Report
Social worker obtained state licenses despite criminal past - Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinal
By John Diedrich and Cary Spivak of the Journal Sentinel   June 13, 2015

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Francis Deisler came to Wisconsin in the early 1970s with a lengthy criminal résumé but a chance at a fresh start, having helped authorities bust New York mobsters.

But Deisler soon returned to crime.

He raped several women while their husbands were at work. He robbed a Milwaukee bank and burglarized homes. And he kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old girl.

Deisler was convicted and spent a decade behind bars. He got out and became a licensed social worker and therapist in Wisconsin and two other states, specializing in treating addicts and sex offenders. After moving to Indiana, he launched several social service businesses and founded a national social worker training and accreditation organization.

More at http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html
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None of it (in my opinion) changes the case against Narconon and the Church.
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Unfortunately, there is more:

A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Report
Social worker obtained state licenses despite criminal past - Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinal
By John Diedrich and Cary Spivak of the Journal Sentinel   June 13, 2015

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Francis Deisler came to Wisconsin in the early 1970s with a lengthy criminal résumé but a chance at a fresh start, having helped authorities bust New York mobsters.

But Deisler soon returned to crime.

He raped several women while their husbands were at work. He robbed a Milwaukee bank and burglarized homes. And he kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old girl.

Deisler was convicted and spent a decade behind bars. He got out and became a licensed social worker and therapist in Wisconsin and two other states, specializing in treating addicts and sex offenders. After moving to Indiana, he launched several social service businesses and founded a national social worker training and accreditation organization.

More at http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html
Speechless.

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While Deisler's conduct is sickening, it actually has nothing to do with the case. And is being used by narCONon as "smoke and mirrors" to try and smear and discredit NAFC though guilt by association.
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I'm sure someone from the "church" fed them the news story.
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I'm sure someone from the "church" fed them the news story.
That and this:
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Michigan now does background checks on applicants for psychologist licenses but that practice didn't start until 2008, said Jason Moon, a spokesman for the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs. There had been no complaints against Deisler until a recent one that led to the state complaint, he said.

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^^^
Absolutely. That pretty much clinches it.
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NAFC has refiled in Indiana, as reported by Tony O. in "The Underground Bunker" yesterday:

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As promised, the National Association of Forensic Counselors refiled its massive lawsuit alleging trademark violations against Scientology, its leader David Miscavige, and 38 other defendants.

This is the lawsuit, you’ll remember, that accuses Scientology and its drug rehab network, Narconon, of misusing the NAFC’s logo and making false claims that its employees had received NAFC certifications in order to convince the public that Narconon’s employees are properly licensed as drug counselors.

The NAFC and its president, Karla Taylor, had originally filed its lawsuit against 82 defendants in Oklahoma, because that’s where Scientology has its flagship rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead. But Miscavige successfully argued that he should be dropped from the lawsuit because he lives and works primarily in California, and the NAFC is in Indiana, so he should not be a party to a lawsuit filed in a third, and unrelated state, Oklahoma.

So now, NAFC has refiled against Miscavige in its home state of Indiana, and with the help of the Indianapolis law firm of Saeed and Little. That name should be familiar — Jonathan Little handles numerous lawsuits against Narconon, and was featured in yesterday’s blog post.

More at: http://tonyortega.org/2016/03/26/talking-scientology-with-actor-and-podcaster-ethan-mckinley/

The filing itself can be seen at https://www.scribd.com/doc/305975639/NAFC-v-Scientology-New-complaint-filed-in-Indiana?secret_password=DVBOhSTlZGYoKLT3mlBQ

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