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[Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:02 »
Scientology vs. Creativity
8 November 2009, 7:30 pm

This may come as a bit of a surprise to some, especially to Scientologists.  Everyone knows how much the Church of Scientology pursues "celebrities".  Everyone knows how much Scientology wants the celebrity's creativity to be viewed as something "improved by Scientology".

So, you might not expect it, but creativity is actually frowned on by Scientology.  If you are a creative person, make sure you do not apply that creativity to anything relating to Scientology.  It is not only discouraged, it is, to all intents and purposes, forbidden.

This has many manifestations.

The most obvious one is with the Scientology technology itself.  In the early days of Dianetics and Scientology, creative people would take ideas from L. Ron Hubbard and see what they could do with them.  They created, they changed, they improved.  They saw what worked and what didn't.  They would send reports back to Hubbard who would then incorporate these proven ideas back into Scientology as his own.

Later, Hubbard would claim that no one ever contributed anything useful to Scientology -- but the early practitioners knew differently.  Without the contributions from those early creative people, the success of Dianetics and early Scientology, such as it was, would not have happened.

But now, creativity is suppressed.

In the Scientology administrative area as well, creative people have been the only ones who could get things done.  Hubbard's administrative policies, when applied very exactly and very strictly, simply cause problems.   Historically, the only work getting done in the Church of Scientology was accomplished by creative people who were willing to work outside of the rules. This really was the secret that kept Scientology going for as long as it did.  These people found creative ways to get around Hubbard's unworkable restrictions and actually get their jobs done.

As creativity has been further rooted out and suppressed in David Miscavige's Scientology, these creative people have left.  Today, pretty much anyone who is still there does everything "by the book".  Hubbard's administrative policies are strictly adhered to. Miscavige's unworkable dictates are followed to the letter.  And, of course, absolutely nothing gets done.

Scientology suppresses creativity and this is one of its fatal flaws.

When one thinks of the great religions of history, one often thinks about the art that they inspired -- great works of art, great mosques and cathedrals, music to inspire generations.

Not, of course, the Church of Scientology.  No great art.  No amazing music.  Ever wonder why?  Well, Hubbard fancied himself an artist and a musician.  He wrote policy letters about it.  Any music produced by and for Scientology must follow Hubbard's policy letters exactly.  The result is "upbeat" -- and vapid.  There is very little creativity allowed or demonstrated.

What little artwork is produced by and for Scientology is, likewise, constrained to follow Hubbard's extensive directives.  As anyone can attest, who has seen the "art" in the florid stage settings of the excessive event videos, the results are simply awful.

How about Scientologists who are not on staff?  Don't they produce music and art?  Yes, but ... they are constrained as well.  They must not produce anything mentioning "Scientology", "Hubbard" or any other Scientology-related terms.  If they tried to do so, they would have to get official approval  from the church.  And approval is not forthcoming.

Scientology does not like creativity.  It is too hard to control.  It is too unpredictable.  So, it is forbidden.

If you've been told that Scientology will "help you be more creative" (and Scientology does say that), that is about as far from the truth as it can be.

If you are creative, and if you cherish your creativity, then you need to stay as far away from Scientology as you can get.

Creativity is fun.  But then fun is also forbidden in Scientology.

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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 15:54 »
Well, we all know how Hubbard's forays into music went. The result was painfully unlistenable, banal, and putrid. Much like his writing.
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 19:27 »
Have you heard the Scientology swing-band, the Jive Aces? I picked their cd out of the trash, and really shouldn't have - they are truly WOW - the Worst Orchestra (exaggeration for the sake of the joke) in the World!!!

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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2009, 21:34 »
Pretty sad. Well, I guess we don't have to worry too much about innovation. Creativity is a requirement for that.

« Last Edit: November 12, 2009, 18:38 by mefree »
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 23:39 »
Innovation would be verboten, as it would risk contradicting "Source's" pearls of whizz-dumb. Can't have that!
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 18:43 »
anyone have a link to hubbards music?  I've never heard it and would like to know if its as bad as his writting
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 20:20 »
Don't say we didn't warn you Raven. -.-;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGNHa8IH91k

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Actual music by Hubbtard including him singing.  Thankfully nothing sharp was near me when I heard this crap or else I would have stabbed myself just to end the pain.

http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/index.htm
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Crazy website about Hubbtard's musical excursions.  Probably run by deaf scientologists.

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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 20:27 »
"Wag their heads deshevelled?"

lol, that is bad.............
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 02:29 »
PUZZLE PUZZLE TROUBLE TROUBLE ARCANE INSANE SPIRIT BRAIN.

Those are some fantastic lyrics, right there. I'm-a going to rush right out and buy 10k copies.
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 08:38 »
Thanks Pirate!  I think

That was bad.  I should of known yt would of had it
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Re: [Ask the Scientologist] Scientology vs. Creativity
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 18:40 »
I had worse than 80's Flashdance flashbacks listening to that!

Travolta in a headband, lol.
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