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« on: March 27, 2009, 12:10 »
The city org chart is here: http://files.sandysprings-ga.org/misc/org_chart.pdf
This will help to find people who are not on this list yet.

City Records
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Michael D. Casey is the Interim City Clerk and may be reached at 770-730-5600.

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City Manager John F. McDonough
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 15:46 »
    This was my first letter to them



Dear_____,
 
I am writing to you over the mater of the zoning of the property located at 5395 Roswell Road, zoning request number RZ09-001/CV09-001. I am very concerned about the burdens this rezoning will inflict upon the citizens of Sandy Springs.  I believe Scientology will become a tax burden to the city for multiple reasons.  I believe we have been misinformed about the size of the congregation, its ability to support itself and its impact upon the community through traffic and parking concerns.
 
I attended the meeting on March, 24 2009 in which the attorney for Scientology stated only part of the building would be rezoned so they could move in.  This allows a loophole for them to move in while not having adequate resources to handle their congregation.   The weekend, before Scientology held an event at the building and the parking lot was 2 car places short of being full. The lawyer stated Scientology did not have normal services like most Churches.  However, one scientology website: http://www.scientology-atlanta.org/introsrv.htm#sunday lists them off as having an 11:00am Sunday Service. The lawyer also stated he was unsure of the number of current Scientology members and then later said around 100. However, last year Deb Danos the media contact for Scientology said the membership was 200 regular attendees and 600 active members (http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=34&SubSectionID=48&ArticleID=11837&TM=42592.25 ) Clearly the 83 parking spaces the group said they can get by with is not enough.  How many of the 83 parking spaces are going to be handicap or on the easement they share with the local post office?  Furthermore, it was brought up this group would have a bookstore, sauna, and lots of offices in it.  I believe this would also increase the traffic and parking problem.  The lawyer was unable to confirm if other Scientology groups such as W.I.S.E, Applied Scholastics, or CCHR would move in. The hours they currently operate are also of concern: http://www.scientology-atlanta.org/ shows they are open Monday-Friday 8:30am-10:00pm and 8:30am -6:30pm Saturday-Sunday.  This will lead to increased traffic issues on an extremely busy street. I believe they have purchased a building and are now trying to force it to fit their needs.
 
Furthermore, I believe Scientology may not be able to support this building project or have a positive impact on the community. According to the Scientology’s local website: http://atlantaidealorg.com/home.html they have yet to raise all the money needed to for their building project.  Of interest is that this a free website paid for by the advertising on the side.  Most organizations, even smaller ones, can pay for their own website without ads on it.  Currently, Scientology has paid for some very lavish expansions, but also ignored large parts of their building projects.  I think you might find the following article interesting: http://tampabay.com/news/religion/article986057.ece In this article it also discuss how the Scientologists changed many things they told the local government in regard to the use of the building.  Also of interest is the way the local Scientologists did not intermix in with the local businesses and employment of outsiders. All money went outside the local area. I’m also including information about the tax liens filed against Narconon of GA http://www.gsccca.org/search/Lien/liennamesselected_full.asp?FSChange=1 and http://www.gsccca.org/search/Lien/liennamesselected.asp This is another Scientology group in financial hardship
 
I urge you to reconsider allowing the rezoning of this building.
Thank You   
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 22:22 »
I'm probably not going to catch everything because I am super exhausted, but will try.

    This was my first letter to them



Dear_____,
 
I am writing to you over regarding  the matter of the zoning of the property located at 5395 Roswell Road (zoning request number RZ09-001/CV09-001). I am very concerned about the burdens this rezoning will inflict upon the citizens of Sandy Springs.   Scientology has become a tax burden and bad neighbor in several other cities (citations?), and I am greatly concerned about the welfare of Sandy Springs for multiple reasons: I believe we have been misinformed about the size of the congregation, its ability to support itself and its impact upon the community through due to increased traffic and inadequate space for parking concerns.
 
I attended the type/name/title of meeting here meeting on March, 24 2009, in which and (Mr. NAME), the attorney for Scientology, stated that only part of the building would be rezoned so Scientology, its staff and its regular customers could move in begin occupying a part of the building.  This partial rezonging allows a loophole for them to move in while not having adequate resources to handle their congregation.   The weekend before, Scientology held a "small" event at the building (without having received their zoning variance beforehand) and the parking lot was only two car places short of being full. The lawyer stated Scientology did not have normal services like most Churches.  However, one Scientology website [1] lists them off as having an 11:00am Sunday Service. Their lawyer also stated he was unsure of the number of current Scientology members and then later estimated the total staff / regular client total to be approximately 100 people. Last year Deb Danos, the media contact for Scientology, said something entirely different and claimed that the membership was included 200 regular attendees and 600 active members [2]. Clearly the 83 parking spaces the group said they can get by with is not enough.  How many of the 83 parking spaces are going to be reserved for the disabled or handicapped, as is legally required, or located on the easement they share with the local post office (NAME, i.e., Sandy Springs Post Office)?  Furthermore, it was stated during this meeting that this group building would have a bookstore, sauna, and lots of many (business-related?)offices in it.  These uses also require parking spaces and would draw traffic, and are in addition to the requested variance proposed for the space their congregation would use, and I believe this would also increase worsen the existing traffic and parking problems in this particular area.  Their lawyer was unable to confirm if other Scientology groups such as W.I.S.E (spell out what WISE stands for, describe it: a group focused on recruiting businesspeople, especially dentists, into a business management technique based on Scientology's doctrines) [3], Applied Scholastics (a group that wishes to introduce techniques based on Scientology's learning drills to students, their parents, and educators, which were created by L. Ron Hubbard, who had no credentials in this area) [4], Narconon (not affiliated with, or as effective or reputable as, Narcotics Anonymous) [5][6] or CCHR (Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an anti-psychiatry activism group)[7] would move in. The hours they currently operate are also of concern; their website [8] shows they are open Monday-Friday 8:30am-10:00pm and 8:30am -6:30pm Saturday-Sunday.  This will also lead to increased traffic issues on an extremely busy street. In short, I believe they have purchased a building and are now trying to force it to fit their needs.
 
Furthermore, I believe Scientology may not be able to support this building project or have a positive impact on the community. According to the Scientology’s local website [9], they have yet to raise all the money needed to for their building project. Of interest is Please note that this a free website paid for by the advertising on the side.  Most organizations, even smaller ones, can pay for their own website without ads on it resorting to revenue raised via online advertising.  Currently, Scientology has paid for to start construction on some very lavish expansions (they are not expanding) buildings, but have also ignored large parts of their building projects.  I think you might find the following article interesting:    In this article it The Tampa Bay (name of newspaper or news outlet)  [10]reported that  also discuss how the Scientologists changed did not adhere to the agreements they had made with many things they told the local government officials and boards in regard to the use of the building.  Also of interest is the way the local Scientologists did not intermix in with the local businesses and or employ outsiders (non-Scientologists) employment of outsiders. All money earned went outside the local area, to parent company (RTC or whatever). Ideal Orgs are purchased by local Scientology groups and resold back to RTC. Since the owner of the building is not local and does not show up in person often (if at all) to inspect the condition of these buildings, they often fall into disrepair and neglect. This  building, (NAME) (link to image[11]), was  damaged by (earthquake? I forget; it is in thread) in 1994, and still has serious structural damage and scaffolding up 14 years later. The current building is already neglected, with (describe unmown grass, damaged shutters, standing water in parking lot after rain (if any), need to repaint, need to repair roof/ gutters (if this is so). (Possibly add: Their current building on Shallowford (describe, link to pix?) has recurring plumbing problems and poorly-maintained landscaping.) Their Narconon of GA building (describe, link to pix?) is also in bad shape; Narconon of GA is another Scientology group experiencing severe financial hardship. It is not a stretch to imagine that the Sandy Springs building will continue to have basic upkeep and repairs neglected and to be poorly maintained.  I’m also including information about the tax liens filed against Narconon of GA [11] [12].
 
I urge you to reconsider allowing the rezoning of this building.
Thank You

REFERENCES
[1] http://www.scientology-atlanta.org/introsrv.htm#sunday
Shorter link to the above article: tinyurl URL

[2] Deb Danos' statement http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=34&SubSectionID=48&ArticleID=11837&TM=42592.25  Shorter link to the above article: tinyurl URL

[3] Link about WISE

[4] Link about Applied Scholastics

[5] Stop-narconon.org

[6] Narconon-exposed.org

[7] About CCHR

[8] http://www.scientology-atlanta.org/

[9] Atlanta Ideal Org website
 http://atlantaidealorg.com/home.html
Shorter link to the above article: tinyurl URL

[10] Tampa Bay
http://tampabay.com/news/religion/article986057.ece
Shorter link to the above article: tinyurl URL

[11] http://www.gsccca.org/search/Lien/liennamesselected_full.asp?FSChange=1

[12] http://www.gsccca.org/search/Lien/liennamesselected.asp




If you are emailing only, you don't need tinyurls; one link is as good as another to an online user, IMHO. If you are mailing a snail mail hard copy, then include them, because few people are going to bother to type in a mile-long URL from a paper letter.

One caveat: I suggested defining ABLE, WISE, CCHR, etc.; be careful with your word choice if/when you do. It is, IMHO, a good idea to let the recipient know what those alphabet soup acronyms stand for, but I may have gone too far in detailing Hubbard's involvement as an unqualified non-expert in the education field. Use your discretion. I think it is good to alert locals that these are front groups with agendas, but we don't want to really get into the CoS belief system too deeply. It is enough to note that they are affiliated with CoS, and what their focus may be. The links to the appropriate URLs may be info enough.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 16:26 »
A slight thread bump with a draft I'm working on.  It is related to the memo by John Coale ().  I'll send it to the Sandy Springs Mayor and City Council.  hopefully it will contribute to the refusal of zoning.

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Dear Council(wo)man ____:

I live outside of Georgia, but I have been following the progress of the zoning meetings in your town, Sandy Springs; specifically the zoning request for Scientology (requisition number RZ09-001/CV09-001).  While I know a lot of information has been sent to the Mayor, City Council, and Homeowners' Associations, I feel that not everything pertinent has been addressed.  Namely, Scientology has a desire to control government entities.  Evidence of this is seen in Operation Snow White1 during the 1970s, but more recently in a memorandum distributed to Scientologists around the nation.

As you hopefully know by this time, Operation Snow White1 is Scientology's name for a series of criminal infiltrations of, and thefts from, the Federal government by Scientologists, in an effort to purge any unfavorable records of Scientology or its founder, L. Ron Hubbard.  In all, “136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology in over 30 countries” were affected by this effort.  My point in this example is simply this:  Scientology does not play around when it comes to governments.

But moving on, a memorandum distributed to Scientologists by John Coale2 with the header, “How Scientologists can take responsibility for and BE AT CAUSE OVER the Fourth Dynamic” (capitalization included verbatim from the header).  I simply had to find out what the Fourth Dynamic3 of Scientology is; what I found is shocking.  From Scientology's web site, whatisscientology.org (What is Scientology): “The fourth dynamic is SPECIES. Man’s fourth dynamic is the species of mankind.”  The term, at cause4, is a Scientology-specific term, coined by L. Ron Hubbard, basically meaning having total control over.  Scientologists are taught they must be “at cause” over others, and the others are “at effect” to them.  Basically, the memo's header is a call to control humankind!

The first page of the memo describes how to set up a Political Action Committee (PAC), for the sake of providing a safe point for Scientology in the government by means of providing funds and votes for whichever politician or party they wish to influence (doubtless, whichever they believe is most likely to obtain or maintain power).   There is also the admission that Scientology, itself, cannot do this, but it encourages Scientologists to do this on behalf of Scientology.  If nothing else, I do encourage you to scrutinize the first page of the memo, as it is rife with plans to influence the government.

The second page gives an overview of what a PAC is, and how Scientology plans to use it to their advantage.  Scientology plans to continually collect funds, though the maximum donation to any one candidate is $5,000.  This seems to bring their plan full circle:  Influence the government on many levels; keep politicians in their pockets; and funnel money into Scientology's coffers.

Scientology has a larger goal, however, than simply influencing a few politicians.  The goal of the organization is to take control.  A famous quote by the founder, L. Run Hubbard, which is recorded in Scientology's scripture states this objective: “Once the world is Clear - a nation, a state, a city or a village - the Scientology-organization in the area becomes its government! And once this has taken place the only policy accepted as valid is Scientology policy.”  -L. Ron Hubbard taped lecture 9 January 1962, "Future Org Trends"  5

There is also a threatening quote which Hubbard said: “If the government were to knock out the control point of Scientology they would reap the whirlwinds.”  6

As you plainly see, the move towards a PAC by Scientology affects even a city like Sandy Springs.  Scientology has the goal of controlling not only the local government, but the people who live in the area.  The goals are stated with demands for donations as well as threats for non-compliance. 

I have enclosed a full copy of the memorandum, as posted at gawker.com7 in its full.  Please take the time to at least skim the first few pages, and see for yourself the skirting of the law in order to place Scientology into a more influential position.  Also note how donations are not requested; they're demanded.  Keep that in mind with all else you have learned about Scientology, and please deny their zoning approval.  Sandy Springs, Georgia is a better place without Scientology.

Sincerely,



1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_snow_white

2 http://john-coale.blogspot.com/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/john-p.-coale.html

3 http://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part02/Chp04/pg0154-4.html

4 http://shipbrook.net/jeff/CoS/scijarg.html
(an example is given under 'Clear:' “According to Hubbard, 'A person who through the technology of Scientology has achieved the extremely high state of being able to be at cause knowingly and at will over mental matter, energy, space and time as regards the first Dynamic (survival as self).'“

5 http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/florida_law_vs_scientology_policy.html

6 http://www.ascensiongateway.com/quotes/l-hubbard/index.htm

7 http://gawker.com/5185546/
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 17:42 »
I would only change the following:

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Scientology has a larger goal, however, than simply influencing a few politicians.  The goal of the organization is to take control.  A famous quote by the founder, L. Ron Hubbard, which is recorded in Scientology's literature states this objective: “Once the world is Clear - a nation, a state, a city or a village - the Scientology-organization in the area becomes its government! And once this has taken place the only policy accepted as valid is Scientology policy.”  -L. Ron Hubbard taped lecture 9 January 1962, "Future Org Trends"  5

There is also a threatening quote in which Hubbard said: “If the government were to knock out the control point of Scientology they would reap the whirlwinds.”  6

I suggest removing "scripture" because it can be seen as being religious discrimination, something which I gather that the SS govt. is wary of.  Literature, on the other hand, is something neutral on that point. 

Other than that, it looks good to me.  Send it!  Send it before tomorrow afternoon to make sure it gets into the record, preferably tonight or tomorrow morning.

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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 18:10 »
I've made the change.

I only used 'scripture' as a note of how dangerous Scientology is, in the sense of a desire to take over everything.  But I do see your point xD

I'll start copying and pasting names and addresses tonight, and hopefully be able to have it printed tomorrow.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 20:20 »
Its a great letter!  However, can we possibly squeeze in the following : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabe_Cazares
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 21:30 »
I'll start copying and pasting names and addresses tonight, and hopefully be able to have it printed tomorrow.

If you're going to print it, you have until the beginning of August to get it in.   :)  I thought you were going to email it.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 21:32 »
A printed letter used to mean a lot more to officials than an email; perhaps that is still true.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 21:48 »
If you're going to print it, you have until the beginning of August to get it in.   :)  I thought you were going to email it.
That was before I had seen the meeting date information.  It's all been emailed.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 23:20 »
         my letter. almost done. please buther it/ fix it asap
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To Whom it May Concern,

 
As a taxpayer of GA I am dismayed about Scientology's attempt to relocate to Sandy Springs. I believe allowing the rezoning will burden the people of Sandy Springs. 

 

 
Although Scientology does  purchase beautiful buildings, but they often fail to properly maintain them and eventually they becoming a disgrace to the neighborhoods they are in.  I urge you to visit: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,78.msg1185.html#new . At this link you will find multiple Scientology owned properties in dilapidated condition. 

 

 
I believe Scientology's abilities to afford maintaing and renovating this building must be examined.   According to Scientology's own website: http://atlantaidealorg.com/home.html they still lack over a million dollars to renovate the building.  Until recently their website was on a free hosting service and had adds along the side of it to fiance it.  One of Scientology's local front groups Narconon was behind in its taxes.  If Sandy Springs is to allow this rezoning what proof will be given they can afford to complete the process. If the money is to come from the national offices of Scientology then examination of the their business decisions must also be examined.  Recently an article in The Tampa Bay Newspaper discussed Scientology doing a 40 million dollar renovation, but one of their other properties was being fined for being unfinished. The article, found here: http://tampabay.com/news/religion/article986057.ece,  also mentions Scientology not following through on its promises to the citizens of Clearwater, Florida. The building is not used in any way that would benefit the local citizens. 

 
I realize Scientology has agreed not to let in their drug rehab group Narconon, but what happens if they rename Narconon or ignore the request?  Who will make sure this does not happen?  What measures are being taken to stop Scientology's other front groups from moving in to this building. A list of Scientology's front groups can be found here: link on tipping point from lor list.   

 
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To Whom it May Concern,

 
As a Georgia resident and taxpayer, I am dismayed about Scientology's attempt to relocate to Sandy Springs, as I believe allowing the rezoning will cause a variety of problems and burdens for the current residents, service providers, and business owners. 
 
Although Scientology does occasionally purchase beautiful buildings, they usually fail to properly maintain them and eventually Scientology-owned properties become eyesores.  I urge you to visit: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,78.msg1185.html#new . At this link you will find multiple Scientology-owned buildings in dilapidated condition, and abandoned, trash-filled, weed-choked properties that have not been developed as Scientology promised.  One of their primary facilities in the Los Angeles area, nicknamed "Big Blue," has exterior paint in bad need of a touch-up and had a large hole in its roof (partially covered by a tarp) since being storm-damaged in 2004. [check my date, add link to images / info] Here in Atlanta, the building in Sandy Springs, which they bought in [year], is already in shoddy condition, as is the Scientology-owned Narconon center located in [area of Atlanta], which they purchased / rented in [year].

I believe Scientology's ability to afford the costs to renovate and maintain this building must be examined.   According to Scientology's own website: http://atlantaidealorg.com/home.html they still lack over a million dollars needed to simply renovate the building (this does not address any renovation costs that would be associated with changes done to comply with zoning regulations for which they are currently not complaint).  Also, until recently, their website was on a free hosting service and had pay-per-click advertisements which were supposed to help finance their uncomplicated (e.g., inexpensive to host) website.  One of Scientology's local front groups, Narconon, has neglected to pay its taxes [for which year/years? Is this a repeated issue?].  Furthermore, in order to comply with the changes needed for their zoning variance, the required alterations to the property will likely make it unfit for the needs of future tenants. If Sandy Springs is to allow this rezoning, what proof will be given that the Scientologists can afford to complete the process? If the money is to come from the national offices of Scientology, then examination of the their business decisions must also be examined.  [Add bill-paying "tech" link here?]

Recently an article in The Tampa Bay Newspaper discussed Scientology doing a 40 million dollar renovation while one of their other properties was being fined for being unfinished. The article, found here: http://tampabay.com/news/religion/article986057.ece,  also mentions Scientology not following through on its promises to the citizens of Clearwater, Florida. The building is not used in any way that would benefit the local citizens. It is also notable that Scientology gained a foothold in Clearwater in the first place by claiming to be another entity entirely: United Churches of Florida (one of many Scientology front groups).[ http://www.shipbrook.net/jeff/CoS/timeline.html and http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/clearwatersun/sun-normandy-031179.htm ] Scientology also tries to cut costs by getting unskilled labour from church members who are often not paid the required minimum wages, and who work for more than 40 hours a week [link to legal info / NOVA info]; with new laws forbidding this abuse of volunteer, unskilled labor, Scientology will either break the law or have to pay its workers more than it would like (or can afford).
 
Scientology has supposedly agreed not to use the Sandy Springs property to house their medically-fraudulent [needs better phrasing] "drug rehab group" Narconon, but what happens if they rename Narconon (e.g., such as 'Second Chance' or [insert names of other Narconon clones, insert link to info about Second Chance stealing away in the middle of the night with unpaid bills and appliances they did not own and dumping convicts in places unknown]) or simply ignore the request?  Who will make sure this does not happen?  What measures are being taken to stop Scientology's other front groups from moving in to this building? What is keeping Scientologists from simply inventing a new front group that will duplicate--in all but name--Narconon or another existing front group? A partial list of Scientology's front groups--partial primarily because these are front groups based primarily in the United States and because Scientology creates new front groups on a frequent basis [omit this clause, or phrase better!]--can be found here: link on tipping point from lor list.   

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009, 04:09 »
It's good so far!  Just a few minor corrections on your late-night draft.

edit:  It seems that in my early morning stupor, I had completely missed Lorelei's edits xD  I like hers better than mine.

        my letter. almost done. please buther it/ fix it asap
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To Whom it May Concern,

 
As a taxpayer of GA I am dismayed about Scientology's attempt to relocate to Sandy Springs. I believe allowing the rezoning will burden the people of Sandy Springs. 

 

 
Although Scientology does  purchase beautiful buildings, they often fail to properly maintain them and eventually they become a disgrace to the neighborhoods they are in.  I urge you to visit: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,78.msg1185.html#new . At this link you will find multiple Scientology owned properties in dilapidated condition. 

 

 
I believe Scientology's abilities to afford maintaining and renovating this building must be examined.   According to Scientology's own website: http://atlantaidealorg.com/home.html they still lack over a million dollars to renovate the building.  Until recently their website was on a free hosting service and had adds along the side of it to finance it.  One of Scientology's local front groups, Narconon, was behind in its taxes.  If Sandy Springs is to allow this rezoning what proof will be given they can afford to complete the process? If the money is to come from the national offices of Scientology then examination of the their business decisions must also be examined.  Recently an article in The Tampa Bay Newspaper discussed Scientology doing a 40 million dollar renovation, but one of their other properties was being fined for being unfinished. The article, found here: http://tampabay.com/news/religion/article986057.ece,  also mentions Scientology not following through on its promises to the citizens of Clearwater, Florida. The building is not used in any way that would benefit the local citizens. 

 
I realize Scientology has agreed not to let in their drug rehab group Narconon, but what happens if they rename Narconon or ignore the request?  Who will make sure this does not happen?  What measures are being taken to stop Scientology's other front groups from moving in to this building? A list of Scientology's front groups can be found here: link on tipping point from lor list.   

 
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 07:42 »
I need to work this: http://orgsaroundtheworld.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/new-church-of-scientology-on-the-way-for-atlanta/  into my government letter I thinks.

So even the national claims they out grew the the space they rent which is 11,000 square feet!   Wow I'm sure they will over run 46, 000 in no time
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 11:23 »
I need to work this: http://orgsaroundtheworld.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/new-church-of-scientology-on-the-way-for-atlanta/  into my government letter I thinks.

So even the national claims they out grew the the space they rent which is 11,000 square feet!   Wow I'm sure they will over run 46, 000 in no time

You also have, in the links to photos I sent you last night, a link to the way Big Blue looked when it was the Cedars of Lebanon Hospital of Los Angeles.  The building was a beautiful old historic looking building, and scn painted the beautiful yellow brick building with architectural details that hideous blue, obliterating any of the previous beauty of the building.  I certainly think pointing out the radical difference scientology's ownership made would put a scare into the people of Sandy Springs.

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 04:19 »
Smurf's new video might also be worth linking to. He takes about 8 minutes to show all the IR cameras everywhere, the sentries on patrol, the lack of foot traffic on LRH Way (formeraly Berendo, correct?) and the new addition on top which apparently faces 360 degrees like a sniper's nest. Oh, and the new, unattractive, ENORMOUS "SCIENTOLOGY" sign in fugly font that will probably fall down and kill someone during the next earthquake.
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