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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 22:58 »
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It shows that as of October 2007, 75.2% of whites used the internet, whereas only 59.0% of blacks and 54.8% of hispanics used the internet.  People who are less likely to use the internet, or have friends who do, are less likely to have run across information negative to Scientology.

This is pertinent to the situation in Atlanta.  M-|V|-M
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2010, 09:31 »
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It shows that as of October 2007, 75.2% of whites used the internet, whereas only 59.0% of blacks and 54.8% of hispanics used the internet.  People who are less likely to use the internet, or have friends who do, are less likely to have run across information negative to Scientology.

This is pertinent to the situation in Atlanta.  M-|V|-M
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2011, 08:57 »
http://www.thenationofislam.org/themotherplane.html


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SUPREME WISDOM DEPARTMENT

(OUR MOTHER PLANE)

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1.    The Mother Plane is made of the finest steel in Asia.
2.    It was made on the Island of Nippon (Japan) in 1929, and also took flight that
       same year.
3.    Black, Brown, Red and Yellow Scientists built the Mother Plane.
4.    The Scientists did not know what they were building.
5.    Her size is Half-mile by Half-mile square.
6.    Her shape is oval.
7.    Her speed is up to 9,000 miles per hour.
8.    Her flying ability is nine thousand (9,000) miles per hour in any direction, up or
       down, to or fro, in any direction without making a complete directional turn.
9.    Her contents are 1,500 small circular planes, as the devil calls them, "FLYING
       SAUCERS."
10.  These small planes carry three (3) bombs each, they also shoot flames of fire.
11.  The Black men who pilot these small planes have been taught from the age of six
       that they are to do a special job.
12.  These pilots can hit any spot in America, blindfolded, as the Devil will soon see.
13.  The bombs that the small planes contain weigh two tons each.
14.  They are designed to drill into the Earth upon contact, and drill from one (1) to
       six (6) miles through stone and rock, and to explode, destroying civilization or
       any living matter (or life) within a fifty (50) mile radius.
15.  After these bombs explode, a poisonous gas is found to snuff out the remaining
       life, if any still exists.
16.  The purpose of the Mother Plane is to destroy the most wicked place ever to be
       on the planet Earth at any time (America, the Great Mystery Babylon).
17.  Her position is 40 miles out from the Earth's sphere.
18.  She holds this position from 6 to 12 months at a time.  When this time is up, the
       Mother Plane comes into the atmosphere to take in fresh air for our Brothers
       inside, then she retakes her position.
19.  At the dropping of the bombs, the flames will reach twelve (12) miles, in all
       directions.
20.  When the destruction comes, America will burn 390 years and take 610 years to
       cool off.  The Great Mystery Babylon (America) will perish in the flames of fire.
      Allah will even cause the air which we breathe to ignite along with the
      atmosphere.  Every atom will burn in and over America from a height of twelve
      (12) miles down.


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The country of America will be littered with leaflets from the sky, with readings like this; "You have from eight (8) to ten (10) days to return unto your own.  The time of this world is at hand."  The leaflets will be written in both English and Arabic, so God (Allah) taught me.  After the warning from the sky will follow total destruction by the intense heat of fire.

And you such people who love America, where lying, drinking, bambling, raping, lynching, burning, stealing, robbing, disrespect of person and persons, nail painting, face painting, swine eating, public nude resorts, nude colonies, nudie newspapers and magazines, nude church-goers, and profane language, will serve as fuel for the fire.  For I declare by Him Who made the Sun, Moon and Stars and the Habitable Earth for His home.  By Whom everything was Created and HImself not Created, from infinite eternity, All is is His name and He will destroy every Christian from the face of the Earth in the near future.

COMMENT:  Again, the key words "flying roll" appear which is an adequate description for the scout ships (Circular Planes) that are aboard the Mother Ship.  The ignorant will say that the second verse should be taken on face value.  But this is impossible, since the measurements f this "flying roll" is given by the Prophet. . . the length thereof is twenty cubits."  (Note: one (1) cubit is an ancient linear measure of about 18 inches, according to the dictionary).  Since one (1) cubit is 13 inches, twenty (20) cubits equal 360 inches, or thirty (30) feet, which is the length of this "Flying Roll."  ". . . and the breadth thereof is ten (10) cubits;"  ends the second verse.  Ten cubits equal 180 inches (15) feet which is the width of this "flying roll."

Hence, there is Zachariah, Chapter 5:1-2, we are told of a "Flying Roll" which is THIRTY FEET long and FIFTEEN FEET wide.  This is a near perfect description of one of Allah's Circular Planes.


 What is it with cults and PLANES?

This guy Farrakhan is even more crazy than LRH. Ron wanted to sell stories and, if possible,make a lot of money by starting a religion. Farrakhan really seems to believe this crap.  :___ufo___: Beam me up, Scotty!  ROFL
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2011, 18:59 »
Worse than all the crazy things are the hateful ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_islam
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The Nation of Islam continues to teach its followers that the present world society is segmented into three distinct categories. They teach that from a general perspective, 85% of the population are the "deaf, dumb and blind" masses of the people who "are easily led in the wrong direction and hard to lead in the right direction". These 85% of the masses who are said to be manipulated by 10% of the people. Those 10% rich "slave-makers" are said to manipulate the 85% masses of the people through ignorance, the skillful use of religious doctrine and the mass media.

The third group is referred to as the 5% "poor righteous teachers" of the people of the world, who know the truth of the manipulation of the 85% masses of the people by the 10%. The 5% "righteous teachers" are at constant struggle and war with 10% to reach and "free the minds" of the masses of the people.

Maybe to gain the "deaf, dumb and blind" masses of the people who "are easily led in the wrong direction and hard to lead in the right direction" as their own followers?  Sounds a bit like Hubbard's theory of SPs (suppressive persons), especially with the percentages all worked out. 

Or the arrogance, also somewhat similar to Scientology:
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The NOI states that they believe in the Qur'an and the writings of all the prophets of God. The NOI believes there are truths in the Bible but it is tampered material and "must be reinterpreted so that mankind will not be snared by the falsehoods that have been added to it."

Because, of course, they know what's best for everyone else, whether they like it or not.

Front groups?
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The NOI has a do-for-self philosophy that resulted in the NOI owning and operating hundreds of businesses nationwide, employing thousands of people. The NOI has purchased and now operates food-industry services, bakeries, and restaurants. It owns a large amount of farmland in Georgia. It owns and operates hair-care shops. Some of these business ventures have been success stories. Others have been criticized as Amway-style marketing schemes that have not benefited most of their employees.

To be fair, they have done some good in the world, too, at least according to James Baldwin, although there is nothing offered up as a reference for this statement (hmmm...):
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The NOI has worked to clean up drug addicts, reform prostitutes, and keep black youth out of gangs. It has helped some newly released ex-convicts make a new start and stay out of jail.

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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2011, 20:57 »
An interesting perspective from someone reconsidering NOI in light of recent developments. 

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Ta-Nehisi Coates is a senior editor for The Atlantic, where he writes about culture, politics, and social issues for TheAtlantic.com and the magazine. He is the author of the memoir The Beautiful Struggle.


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I want to heartily recommend Lawrence Wright's piece on Paul Haggis and Scientology. I've been working on a piece that's required some rethinking of the Nation of Islam, so it was interesting to be doing that thinking, and reading this piece at the same time.

What's interesting to me about Wright's piece (and with the Nation) is how a group that brooks no real dissent, and is deeply conspiratorial about the outside world, careens right into violence. That violence is then rationalized or utterly ignored. I was tempted to write this off to the sociology of cults. But thinking on this more, I'm not quite convinced that cults work entirely differently than the rest of society. Surely since the formation of the DEA, an incredible amount of violence has followed that is rationalized or utterly ignored.

more at http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/society-is-a-joint-stock-company/71237/
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2011, 19:25 »
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Hatewatch is managed by the staff of the Intelligence Report, an investigative magazine published by the Alabama-based civil rights group Southern Poverty Law Center.

Black Supremacist Nation of Islam Pushes White Dominated Scientology|Hatewatch|Southern Poverty Law Center
By Leah Nelson on June 7, 2011

Two of America’s better known UFO-friendly religions, Scientology and the black nationalist Nation of Islam (NOI), now have more in common than unusual theologies involving intergalactic spaceships. For about a year, NOI leader Louis Farrakhan has been telling his followers to embrace Scientology in order to move closer to perfection in preparation for the end times.

According to a May 31 article in Final Call, NOI’s newspaper, nearly 700 NOI members have become Certified Hubbard Dianetics Auditors, and more will soon be trained in Church of Scientology (COS) techniques “to prepare better servants and saviours of the people by helping to clear up their minds and lives.” COS “auditors” supposedly help people ascend to higher levels of consciousness.

Although both the Nation of Islam and Scientology embrace extraterrestrial theories as well as self-improvement programs aimed at lifting members to higher and higher levels, they nevertheless make for extremely surprising partners. NOI is a racist hate group that holds that white people are intrinsically, biologically evil — “blue-eyed devils,” in the group’s parlance. Scientology’s followers, who include several well-known celebrities and other wealthy people, are overwhelmingly white (although membership is open to all) and its founder reportedly was a racist who long defended South African apartheid.

Always apocalyptic in his outlook, NOI’s Farrakhan has recently ramped up his warnings that the end is near, identifying recent natural disasters, the uprisings of the “Arab Spring,” and America’s actions against authoritarian Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, a long-time NOI ally, as evidence. In a March press conference, he predicted that the world as we know it would soon be destroyed.

Chip Berlet, senior analyst at Political Research Associates and an expert in millenarianism and the radical right, told Hatewatch that Farrakhan may be embracing Scientology because, nearing 80, he has a limited time left to prepare his followers for their journey to the “Mother Wheel,” and is desperate to see them ready before he dies. In NOI theology, the Mother Wheel is an artificial planet, or huge spaceship, where the saved will live while smaller, divinely guided spaceships destroy everything left on Earth — typically described as including all white people, although NOI has sometimes suggested that a few whites might be saved.

more at http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/06/07/black-supremacist-nation-of-islam-embraces-white-dominated-scientology/#more-6766
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2011, 23:45 »
The above is an interesting read. Glad the NOI connection to scientology is being discussed by such a prestigious publication.
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2011, 22:53 »
Final call responds to SPLC.

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_8007.shtml
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Re: Nation of Islam supporting Scientology in Atlanta?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2011, 20:16 »
Final call responds to SPLC.

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_8007.shtml
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Let us know if your comment goes through so we can send some, too!
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