Choice comments from the different forums about these documents
Facebook comment of interest, lol
Whew! Lots of reading but, srsly, I'm lovin' me some Rebecca Franklin, ESQ,. Its like watching the tide come in and dissolve L Ron Hubbard's little sand castle.
Tipping Point Forum
Holy crap. I just died and went to dox-loving heaven. Yes I did.
Posted by RogerB View Post
This could/should reverberate throughout the USA.
The fraudulent, lying shit the Cof$ affiliated ops pull is so insane as to be unbelievable by sane people.
I have the feeling that the outrage this shit should have in the US media could well begin the spotlight of exposure on the cult like what is bringing the cult to heal in Oz.
These silly SOB's in the cult don't learn, can't think, and consider themselves outside of the norms and standards of decent societal behavior . . . it is bring them down.
Whyweprotest comment on the list of depos :
I love how James McLaughlin gets quizzed for over 70 pages on what the heck his real qualifications are. (A masters degree in theology and Narconon training.)
I'm confused. James McLaughlin is billed as an "Expert Witness" for NN GA, but his depositioon reads like ammo for the Desmonds. So whose side is he on anyways?
cos i forgot to say It's a wog psychiatrist :p who will never work as an expert witness again:p and they had to hire one :p and a crappy one who would say what they wanted:p and he is killing them:p and the final bit of irony/karma will be if he loses his wog practise:p
It won't fetch patrick back, but he hasn't died in vain
Choice comments Village Voice
Allison Riepe's testimony, page 11. The attorney hands her a document and says it's exhibit 3. She corrects him and says it's exhibit 4, and he concurs. I'd say Allison has an eye for details. I'd believe her over Mary Reisen anyday
plumeria I called Narconon Arrowhead as their sign says "Arrowhead Medical Detox". and asked if there was Doctor there? The receptionist said: "I don't know". She put me through to some angry lady who said: "What do YOU Want?" I repeated: "I would like to know if you have a Doctor there or not?" She said: "That's confidential information". I said, "Really?" She said: "I'll have to take your name and Phone # and have our Medical team call you". I gave her BOTH. No one ever called. Medical Detox ....PULEEEASE. Learn the facts, ALL the facts. Tory/Magoo
Mary Rieser used to be D/Exexcutive Director International for the Church of Scientology International. That is one of the highest Sea Org positions possible. She was a Sea Org member at the international Scientology headquarters in Hemet, Ca.
Narconon isn"t Scientology!?!? Ya, and there is no such thing as disconnection. We love families...... Lies, lies, lies......
scobeepesch If this Mary Reiser is the same Mary I know, she was the D/ED Int for Internal (responsible for manning up the Senior Executive Strata that manages all of Scientology). I worked with her while she held that position to get executives arrived to the Hemet base.
More something about Mary from Clambake. She sounds like another scientology "mother of year" nominee.http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=32335
" In a 1992 Canadian court case, the lawyer defending the Church of Scientology said that "the prosecution witnesses (Scientologists testifying against the Church!) could not be believed, because they had all taken special training in how to lie."
Another question, how much of the CO$'s income is dependent on this stream of revenue?
GerardPlourde Good question. The licensing fees wind up being fairly minimal to the actual church itself. Ten percent from each center's adjusted gross income weekly goes to Narconon management offices, then ten percent of that goes to ABLE for licensing fees. There are also the book fees that go to ABLE for each new client into Narconon. In addition, the property Arrowhead operates from is not owned by them, but instead a separate holding company controlled by the church, for which Arrowhead has paid 30K per month for rent for the past 11 years (according to their 990 filings as well).
In addition, you also have any former clients who wind up becoming Scientologists that go on to pay for services directly from them (a low percentage, but some still do, of course). The former clients who become staff have a higher conversion rate to Scientology since they begin to use it at work daily, and then they are open to all of the services and donations that the church hounds its parishioners for.
For example, the International Association of Scientologists (IAS) often uses Narconon as a means to tout their social betterment activities to go after church members for large donations, since the IAS is who put up the money for the purchase and renovation of the Arrowhead facility. They spent about 3.5 million on it, but have gotten tens of millions in donations by "showcasing" it at events.
So, I guess the answer is that overall it can be a decent source of income for the church directly, just not as much as first assumed when people see that the program costs 30K per client.
heathergraceful Aside from the program tenets contained in the books that are also available in different books at the church, the staff use the "management technology" contained in the Organization Executive Course of Hubbard Communication Office Policy Letters (HCO PLs) administratively, and the case supervisors, course supervisors and sauna personnel read from the Technical Volumes directly. There are some "secularized" versions of these for Narconon staff, but the case supervisors especially use those to oversee each client's progress through the program. These are called Hubbard Communication Office Bulletins (HCOBs) and are the same used in the church