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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon and related groups => Topic started by: Mary_McConnell on May 28, 2014, 21:27

Title: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 28, 2014, 21:27
Thought it time to start a separate thread about this supposedly upcoming Maryland Narconon program which would never meet the requirements for licensing in Maryland, nor would their 'drug counselors"

This is the program I presume they plan on sending all the alcoholic and drug addicted heavy hitters in DC that the connect up with via their National Affairs Office. The location is very close to Camp David and is a former presidential retreat.

I posted this info a while back, but there is an update, past this

They may be closing down, but I heard that Brian is somewhere opening up a 250 bed facility.  Could be false, but source has no reason to lie to me.

Probably working at the Thurmont property in Maryland ( mentioned as Washington DC. Of course, it's not licensed and never will be. Supposed to a 'training center' but you know how these crooks work.

Land sold Sept 2013 to the state. Not sure about property

Account Identifier:    District - 15 Account Number - 340851
Owner Name:    SOCIAL BETTERMENT PROPERTIES
INTERNATIONAL    Use:
Principal Residence:    RESIDENTIAL
NO
Mailing Address:    1710 IVAR AVE
SUITE 1105
LOS ANGELES CA 90028-    Deed Reference:    1) /09767/ 00034
2)
Location & Structure Information
Premises Address:    12929 CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD
0-0000
   Legal Description:
   26.84 ACRES

CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD.
Map:    Grid:    Parcel:    Sub District:    Subdivision:    Section:    Block:    Lot:    Assessment Year:    Plat No:    
0025    19    38       0000             2012    Plat Ref:    92/ 83
Special Tax Areas:    Town:    NONE
Ad Valorem:    300
Tax Class:    
Primary Structure Built    Above Grade Enclosed Area    Finished Basement Area    Property Land Area    County Use
1940    5,232 SF       26.8400 AC
   
Stories    Basement    Type    Exterior    Full/Half Bath    Garage    Last Major Renovation
1.000000    YES    STANDARD UNIT    STONE    6 full    3 Detached    

Value Information
   Base Value    Value    Phase-in Assessments
      As of
01/01/2012    As of
07/01/2013    As of
07/01/2014
Land:    549,700    388,600
Improvements    727,800    661,100
Total:    1,277,500    1,049,700    1,049,700    1,049,700
Preferential Land:    0          0
Transfer Information
Seller: TROUT RUN LLC    Date: 09/16/2013    Price: $4,850,000
Type: ARMS LENGTH MULTIPLE    Deed1: /09767/ 00034    Deed2:
Seller: TROUT RUN LLC    Date: 04/17/2013    Price: $0
Type: NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER    Deed1: /09493/ 00147    Deed2:
Seller: HAUGERUD, HOWARD E. & TAMAJEAN A.    Date: 02/20/2007    Price: $0
Type: NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER    Deed1: /06461/ 00127    Deed2:
Exemption Information
Partial Exempt Assessments:    Class    07/01/2013    07/01/2014
County:    000    0.00    
State:    000    0.00    
Municipal:    000    0.00|0.00    0.00|0.00
Tax Exempt:    Special Tax Recapture:
Exempt Class:    NONE

___________________________


Account Identifier:    District - 15 Account Number - 340878
Owner Information
Owner Name:    SOCIAL BETTERMENT PROPERTIES
INTERNATIONAL    Use:
Principal Residence:    RESIDENTIAL
NO
Mailing Address:    1710 IVAR AVE
SUITE 1105
LOS ANGELES CA 90028-    Deed Reference:    1) /09767/ 00034
2)
Location & Structure Information
Premises Address:    CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD
0-0000
   Legal Description:
   13.15 ACRES

CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD
Map:    Grid:    Parcel:    Sub District:    Subdivision:    Section:    Block:    Lot:    Assessment Year:    Plat No:    
0025    0019    0038       0000             2012    Plat Ref:    92/ 84
Special Tax Areas:    Town:    NONE
Ad Valorem:    300
Tax Class:    
Primary Structure Built    Above Grade Enclosed Area    Finished Basement Area    Property Land Area    County Use
1970    2,220 SF    600 SF    13.1500 AC    
Stories    Basement    Type    Exterior    Full/Half Bath    Garage    Last Major Renovation
2.000000    YES    STANDARD UNIT    FRAME    3 full    
   
Value Information
   Base Value    Value    Phase-in Assessments
      As of
01/01/2012    As of
07/01/2013    As of
07/01/2014
Land:    282,400    143,300
Improvements    163,300    165,600
Total:    445,700    308,900    308,900    308,900
Preferential Land:    0          0
Transfer Information
Seller: TROUT RUN LLC    Date: 09/16/2013    Price: $4,850,000
Type: ARMS LENGTH MULTIPLE    Deed1: /09767/ 00034    Deed2:
Seller: TROUT RUN LLC    Date: 04/17/2013    Price: $0
Type: NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER    Deed1: /09493/ 00155    Deed2:
Seller: HAUGERUD, HOWARD E. & TOMAJEAN A.    Date: 02/20/2007    Price: $0
Type: NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER    Deed1: /06461/ 00131    Deed2:
Exemption Information
Partial Exempt Assessments:    Class    07/01/2013    07/01/2014
County:    000    0.00    
State:    000    0.00    
Municipal:    000    0.00|0.00    0.00|0.00
Tax Exempt:    Special Tax Recapture:
--------------------------------------------------------

Liber/Folio
04/17/2013     15 340851     12929 CATOCTIN HOLL     0   
09493 / 00147
04/17/2013     15 340878     CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD     0   
09493 / 00155
04/17/2013     15 589810     CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD     1491500   
09493 / 00163
04/17/2013     15 589811     CATOCTIN HOLLOW RD     1491500   
09493 / 00163

To search and see for yourself, go to this link, click Frederick as the county and search choice as Account Idenifier. Use the numbers above to search.
http://sdat.resiusa.org/RealProperty/Pages/default.aspx

(http://www.zillow.com/blog/files/2011/12/Trout-Run-Bridge.png)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/155835440/Burgess-Opposition-to-Dismiss-Exhibit-T

Trout Run: 'The Other Camp David'
http://www.kjonline.com/realestate/Trout-Run-The-Other-Camp-David.html?pagenum=1
http://www.kjonline.com/realestate/Trout-Run-The-Other-Camp-David.html?pagenum=2 (http://www.kjonline.com/realestate/Trout-Run-The-Other-Camp-David.html?pagenum=2)

Update:
Here is the latest from a May 2014 DC Org OT Committee Newsletter

Yvonne Rodgers, Narconon I/C ( pictured holding new photos of the 'facility ')
 
Narconon Washington DC
Luncheon Briefing
Sat June 7th at Noon
National Affairs Office

Come have lunch and hear about the plans for Narconon's future addition to the Washington, DC area- the soon to open facilities at Trout Run, Maryland.
See the latest photos of this beautiful Ideal Narconon and hear the plans to bring drug rehab to our nation's capitol on the right orders of magnitude.

Featuring a special presentation from a Narconon grad who used LRH tech to get himself from heroin addict to trained auditor and Super Power graduate!!

For more info or to RSVP please call:

Yvonne Rodgers
(571) 278-5009
__________________________________

Anyone in the area able to attend, please brirf us on what the plans are.

Meantime, I will keep digging
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 28, 2014, 21:53
Of course, they hide the registrant's name
narconontroutrun.com

Domain Name: NARCONONTROUTRUN.COM
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Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
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Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-02-16 22:48:55
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
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Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
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Registry Registrant ID:
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Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
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Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: NARCONONTROUTRUN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
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Admin Phone Ext:
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Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
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Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-05-29T01:00:00Z
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 28, 2014, 22:04
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12929 Catoctin Hollow Rd, Thurmont, MD 21788

    Map
    Bird's Eye
    Street View

View larger map
Sold on 9/16/13: $4,850,000
Zestimate®: $2,370,133
Est. Mortgage:
$18,392/mo
    Bedrooms:13 beds
    Bathrooms:9 baths
    Single Family:5,232 sq ft
    Lot:382.69 acres
    Year Built:1940
    Last Sold:Sep 2013 for $4,850,000
    Heating Type:Heat pump
Description
Trout Run is a 453-acre rustic hideaway just down the road from Camp David in Maryland's Catoctin Mountains. Features 5 furnished residences, including the 3-bedroom main lodge, used by Presidents Hoover and Roosevelt and big-game mounts. In addition to its private two-mile trout stream, the property is surrounded by wooded trails, and has access to wild turkey, deer, and grouse hunting.

 
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/12929-Catoctin-Hollow-Rd-Thurmont-MD-21788/36832686_zpid/

Visual tour of the property ( before Narconon bought it lat year)
http://tour.homevisit.com/mls/54989/12929-CATOCTIN-HOLLOW-RD-THURMONT-MD-21788
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 29, 2014, 11:35
Hmmm....
Quote
...and hear the plans to bring drug rehab to our nation's capitol...
Have to keep an eye out and see if they actually start advertising this place for "rehab", then point it out to the appropriate state authorities if they do.

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 01, 2014, 12:01
Well, I'm trying to prevent it from even opening, lol! But yes, being on the lookout is a good thing. Thanks, again, for your efforts to help, BigBeard
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 01, 2014, 13:33
OK, here is some FAQs on Facility licensing in Maryland. I excluded any not directly applicable, like about hospitals

Quote
Office of Health Care Quality
Maryland Department of Health & Mental Hygiene
12/08/2009
1

Substance Abuse Certification
Frequently Asked Questions and Answers

1. What types of programs need certification?

All alcohol and drug treatment programs and prevention programs require certification by the State. However there are some organizations and programs that are exempt from certification due to having solely a meeting and support design rather than approved treatment or therapeutic co
mposites (i.e. Narcotics Anonymous, Alcohol Anonymous, Transitional Housing and Employee assistance Programs). Also, there are some
treatment programs and prevention programs located in hospitals that can apply for exemption from certification by written request because they are accredited according to the Behavioral Health Standards by the Joint Commission.

Office of Health Care Quality 
Maryland Department of Health & Mental Hygiene
12/08/2009
2

4. I’m interested in helping people in recovery by providing housing options but I’m not an Alcohol and Drug Counselor. Can I still provide housing assistance to others and not pursue a substance abuse program certification?

The Administration does not certify transitional housing programs or other similar organizations that hold meetings or provide support service to help
individuals who show the effects of alcohol and drug abuse. There are specific zoning requirements in each State locality. Contact your local Zoning office for the zoning requirements in your community.

5. My program certification expires soon. What do I have to do to apply for recertification?

Comply with local, federal, State laws and local sanitation, building, fire
codes, and zoning requirements. Make certain that you have a current State
fire inspection. A renewal is submitted, only, if you are requesting a recertification of the same program levels of treatment last certified. Complete the current application approved by the Administration and indicate in the “type of certification” section that you wish a re
newal of your current certification.

Mail the completed application to the Office of Health Care Quality.
In accordance with the provisions of State Government Article 10-226(b) a
sufficient application for renewal of the license must be made at least two
calendar weeks prior to the expiration of the license if that license is to remain in effect while the unit makes a final decision on its status. Your approval will then remain in effect until such time as a renewal decision is made.

As currently required by COMAR 10.47 (Revised August 2008):
“This application may be used for combinations of certification requests, e.g.
a renewal application may also include a change in program location or an
addition or deletion of service level. Please check all that apply. However, a
separate application must be completed for each physical site”.

6. Where do I find the Administrations approved application?

Currently, you can locate the Substance Abuse Program Application
on the Office of Health Care Quality (OHCQ) or Alcohol and Drug
Abuse Administration (ADAA) websites at www.dhmh.state.md.us/ohcq
or at www.maryland-adaa.org

Office of Health Care Quality
Maryland Department of Health & Mental Hygiene
12/08/2009
3

7. I’m interested in becoming an Alcohol and Drug Counselor. Where do I find more information?

Although the Office and Health Care Quality will review the credentials and appropriate privileges of staff at substance abuse programs, it does not evaluate issue or verify Alcohol and Drug Counselor approvals. Please contact the State Board of Professional Counselors & Therapists for further in
formation. Explore their website at http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/bopc
for more information.

8. How do I know if a program that is advertising alcohol and drug treatment is approved by the Administration?

When certified, the substance abuse program receives a Certificate of
Approval from the Administration. The program is required to post the State Certificate at a conspicuous location within the program for public awareness and information. Request to see the program certificate.
Explore the Resource Directory located on the Administrations website.
http://adaa.dhmh.maryland.gov/SitePages/Home.aspx

The directory is user friendly and search capable. Various information is provided about the Administration’s approved substance abuse certified programs.

You may call ADAA or OHCQ should you
need further assistance.

9. How do I file a complaint?

To make a complaint about a health care facility or community-based treatment program contact OHCQ Substance Abuse Unit at 877-40
2-8218 or log on to the OHCQ website at
http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/ohcq/regulated_programs/substance_abuse.htm  to  complete a complaint form.

If your complaint pertains to services provided through OMT – Opioid Maintenance Therapy or OMT.D – Opioid Maintenance Therapy Detoxification (OTP) you may also contact the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (ADAA), State Opioid Treatment Authority (S.O.T.A.), Susan Swanton at 410-402-8600.

10. How can I obtain technical assistance?

The Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (ADAA) provides technical assistance to programs that receive any type of public funding through regional technical assistance teams. Contact information for these teams can be found at http://www.maryland-adaa.org/content_documents/M
gmtServs/Regionalteams.pdf 
http://dhmh2.dhmh.state.md.us/ohcq/download/memo/sa_faq.pdf

Quote
Substance Abuse Substance Abuse

 Toll Free Phone : 877-402-8218
 Local Phone : 410-402-8095
                          410-402-8052
 Fax: 410-402-8056

The Substance Abuse Certification Unit is the licensing agent of the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (ADAA) and as such is responsible for the certification; initial approval and renewal of State of Maryland addiction service programs that meet the required state and federal guidelines for programs that provide particular levels of treatment in accordance with the guidelines established by the American Society of Addiction Medicine Patient Placement Criteria. Substance abuse programs include: opioid maintenance therapy programs, outpatient treatment programs, residential programs, early intervention, detoxification treatment, and education programs (DWI).

Explore comprehensive information on our Substance Abuse program in the sections below:
 
    Alerts
    Licensure or Renewal Application
    Regulations
    Transmittals
    Forms
    Reports
    File a Complaint
    Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/default.aspx

Certification and licensing is done by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists. The Board's Web site is located at: http://dhmh.maryland.gov/bopc/SitePages/Home.aspx
comar

Certification Requirements - the Division of State Documents
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/SubtitleSearch.aspx?search=10.47.04.*

10.47.01
   
Requirements (Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration)
   
05/2008
10.47.02
   
Specific Program Requirements
   
05/2008
10.47.03
   
Certification Requirements
   
05/2008
10.47.04
   
Education Programs
   
05/2008

http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SitePages/Regulations.aspx

 10.47.04.03
.03 Certification Required.

A. All programs and prevention programs shall be certified by the Department before program services and prevention program services may be provided in the State.

B. The following are exempt from certification under this chapter:

(1) A health professional licensed under the Health Occupations Article who is treating patients within the scope of the professional's practice and who does not advertise the practice as an alcohol abuse or drug abuse program;

(2) Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, transitional housing programs, or other similar organizations, if the organization holds meetings or provides support services to help individuals who show the effects of drug abuse or alcohol abuse;

(3) An employees' assistance program of a business entity; and

(4) A hospital as defined in Health-General Article, §19-301, Annotated Code of Maryland, accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Health Care Organizations with a separately accredited alcohol and drug abuse program.

C. All programs offering drug and alcohol treatment, care, and rehabilitation are required to be certified except as in §A of this regulation.

D. Each level of service offered by a program requires a certification.

E. A separate certification is required for each physical site regardless of the service.

F. A certification is valid only for the program to which it is issued and is not subject to voluntary or involuntary sale, assignment, or transfer.

G. Upon sale, transfer, assignment, lease, or relocation, the program shall obtain a new certification.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=10.47.04.03.htm

 10.47.04.06
.06 Waiver and Variances.

A. Upon written request by the program, the Director shall issue a written decision which may:

(1) Grant a variance or waiver from a regulation if the:

(a) Variance or waiver would not endanger the life or safety of a patient in a program; or

(b) Intent of the regulation to which a variance or waiver is sought meets the alternative proposed by the program; or

(2) Deny the variance or waiver.

B. The Director may grant a variance or waiver that:

(1) Remains in effect for as long as the program continues to comply with the conditions under which the variance or waiver is granted; or

(2) Is time limited.

C. The program is responsible for maintaining a copy of the decision in its certification file.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=10.47.04.06.htm


Maryland Certified Treatment Locator (Resource Directory)
http://adaa.dhmh.maryland.gov/SitePages/ADAA-ResourceDirectory.aspx

Treatment Compliance Office
To file a treatment complaint contact the ADAA Compliance Section at (410) 402-8600.
All of Maryland's substance abuse treatment programs must be certified by the DHMH Office of Health Care Quality (OHCQ). To Apply for Certification as a Substance Abuse Treatment Program Provider complete the application form below and mail to:

                OHCQ
                Substance Abuse Unit
                Bland Bryant Building, Spring Grove Hospital
                55 Wade Avenue, Catonsville Maryland 21228
                The Office of Health Care Quality Web site can be found at: http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SitePages/Home.aspx

LICENSURE
        New - FAQs for Substance Abuse Licensure       
 
        Application Packet - COMAR 10.47 - Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (Word)
        NOTE: The Application in Word format can be filled out and saved on your computer using Microsoft Word.
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/docs/SA%20Application%20FINAL.doc

        Application Packet - COMAR 10.47 - Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (PDF) Print Only
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/docs/SA%20Application%20FINAL.pdf
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/SitePages/Licensure.aspx
http://64.124.162.184/Monitoring_new1/Form1.htm

OHCQ Program Certification Application
http://adaa.dhmh.maryland.gov/Documents/content_documents/QualityAssurance/Compliance/8_09_FINAL_APPLICATION.pdf

http://adaa.dhmh.maryland.gov/SitePages/Compliance.aspx

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 01, 2014, 13:36

 Board of Professional Counselors

General Licensure Information

    Professional Counselor

    Licensed Graduate Professional Counselors (LGPC)

    Marriage and Family Therapy

    Licensed Graduate Marriage & Family Therapy (LGMFT)

    Alcohol and Drug

    Licensed Graduate Alcohol and Drug Counselor (LGADC)

    Out of State Alcohol and Drug

The Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists has published this information to be used as a guide.  The Licensure requirements can be found in Title 17, Health Occupation Article, Annotated Code of Maryland.

http://dhmh.maryland.gov/bopc/SitePages/licenseeinfo.aspx


Alcohol & Drug Counselor Licensure Requirements

Applicant must have a master's degree in a health and human services counseling field with a minimum of 60 graduate semester credit hours or 90 graduate quarter credits from an accredited college.  A minimum of 27 credit hours from the topic areas listed in A through I below.  Each course must be 3 credits. Also required is a 3 semester credit (5 quarter credit) Alcohol and Drug Ethics course. with a focus on alcohol and drug counseling.  Ethics course may be undergraduate.
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/bopc/SitePages/alcoholdrug.aspx

OUT OF STATE ALCOHOL & DRUG COUNSELOR LICENSURE REQUIREMENTS
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/bopc/SitePages/overviewofOutofStateLicensureProcess1.aspx
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on June 01, 2014, 15:24
10.47.01.06

 .06 Staff Requirements.

A. Administrator.

(1) A program shall have an administrator.

(2) Qualifications. The administrator shall:

(a) Possess a working knowledge of all applicable State and federal laws;

(b) Possess a working knowledge of program management skills;

(c) Be employed as an administrator before October 1, 2002; or

(d) Have at a minimum:

(i) A bachelor's degree from an accredited educational institution; and

(ii) At least 5 years of documented experience in human services, 2 years of which include providing administrative or clinical supervision.

(3) Duties. The administrator shall ensure that the program complies with all applicable State and federal laws.

B. Clinical Director.

(1) A program may have a clinical director.

(2) The clinical director functions under the administrative supervision of the administrator.

(3) Qualifications. The clinical director shall have at a minimum:

(a) A master's degree in counseling or a related discipline regulated under the Health Occupations Article, Annotated Code of Maryland, and certification or licensure as an alcohol and drug counselor by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists; or

(b) Approval to supervise by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists.

C. Clinical Supervisor.

(1) A program shall have a clinical supervisor.

(2) Qualifications. The clinical supervisor shall:

(a) Be employed as a clinical supervisor before October 1, 2002; or

(b) Have at a minimum:

(i) A master's degree in counseling or a related discipline regulated under the Health Occupations Article, Annotated Code of Maryland, and certification or licensure as an alcohol and drug counselor by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists; or

(ii) Approval to supervise by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists.

(3) Duties. A clinical supervisor may carry a caseload at the discretion of the administrator.

D. Clinical Staff.

(1) Qualifications. All staff employed as alcohol and drug counselors shall, at a minimum be:

(a) Licensed or certified as an alcohol and drug counselors by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists;

(b) Approved by the Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists; or

(c) Licensed, certified, or permitted under the Health Occupations Article, Annotated Code of Maryland to provide substance abuse treatment.

(2) Credentials. The administrator shall ensure that program staff, including students, interns, and volunteers, are credentialed and appropriately privileged.

(3) Policies and Procedures. All clinical staff, including the administrator, clinical director, and clinical supervisor, shall review the program's policies and procedures and shall sign a statement saying that they reviewed and understood the policies and procedures.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 01, 2014, 17:40
Thank you, mefree... as we have found and posted here, they will never qualify unless they hire outside the Narconon enterprises OR claim to be an educational program only .  I will be calling around on Monday to see if they have already applied...
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on October 23, 2014, 23:57
Here is the link to search MD licensed facilities by name or city or county etc  http://64.124.162.184/resource/

As well:

Sharing some updated information from another thread here
Re: Ideal Continental Narconon
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2014, 23:44
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12855.msg34848.html#msg34848


I remember Cof$ buying the Thurmont property. At the time I thought they were going to have a hard time meeting MD requirement to get licensed as a rehab. Any word on that front, or could that be part of why they are obviously looking at going the "faith based" route? Even though going "faith based" is pretty much going to throw existing NN's with current law suits under the bus for claiming to be "secular".


I think something must have happened to derail the Maryland site, but I don't know what that would be. DM was more hyped up about this than any other Narconon. "In our nation's capital." Which it isn't, but whatever. They need a CNN in EUS to complete this plan. It could be Maryland, it could be Clearwater, or it could be some new location. I doubt it will be Georgia.

Just an update here. I spoke with Ms. Doris Williams of the compliance section of the Maryland the Dept of Health and Mental Hygiene Office of Health Care Quality at the Substance abuse licensing unit. She told me that she wouldn't be able to know if an application was in progress because a different department handles that but she could look up to see if they received a license. I gave her the name and address of the property. She looked on her computer system and stated that there is is definitely no facility licensed under the name Narconon in the state of Maryland. She stated that there is only 1 licensed program in Thurmont, MD, operated by Catoctin Counseling Centers located at 112 E. MAIN St. She said they they have been licensed for many years and deliver only outpatient rehab, as well as a running a licensed DWI Early Intervention Education Class.

I checked out Catoctin Counseling Centers website. They have 4 facilities in MD, Thurmont being their oldest, and have been in business for  '20 years' It's clear to me that they are unrelated to Narconon Trout Run, whose property is located at 12929 CATOCTIN HOLLOW Rd.

I explained to Ms. Williams my concerns that they might be operating illegally, that they are promoting the program to certain people as a new facility. It's not clear from the written informatio if it's upcoming or already operating.  That they bought a $4.5 million dollar property last year to run the program and that they are also calling it Narconon D.C. as well. I stated that they  have purchased some websites that contain the name the name Narconon trout Run but these are currently inactive / parked.  I asked what should one do if it is found that Trout Run is advertising for patients or found to be operating as a facility without a license. She said to definitely report it via the complaint system with as many details as possible. She then gave me the site link where one can file a complaint online, or print out a form and email it or send it in by mail. Here is what the page says:

Maryland Dept of Health and Mental Hygiene Office of Health Care Quality
 
Complaint Form
 
"Complete this form if you have concerns about the health care or
treatment that you or a family member received or did not receive.

Answer all questions. Give complete details. You may use this form as a
guide when making a complaint by telephone. We will investigate your
concerns based on the information that you provide. You may file an
anonymous complaint. "

Online Complaint Form

You can also download and print the Complaint Report Forms
Complaint Report Form in Adobe® Acrobat
Complaint Report Form in Microsoft® Word

You may scan the form and email it to ohcq.web@maryland.gov
or address written complaints to the appropriate licensing unit (listed below) and mail to:

Office of Health Care Quality
Spring Grove Hospital Center
Bland Bryant Building
55 Wade Avenue
Catonsville, Maryland 21228

Or submit your complaint to the appropriate OHCQ licensing unit phone:
Substance abuse treatment programs- (410) 402-8095 (410) 402-8052 Toll-free 877-402-8218
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SitePages/Complaint%20Form.aspx

I am going to try and track down the department that reviews the license applications.The state website is in the process of being updated and those details may or may not lead to a direct phone number

If anyone reading this has information about this facility that they would like to share with me in confidence, please PM me here if you are a member of the forum. Member or not, I can be reached by email me at
xscilentologist at yahoo.com

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 10, 2015, 23:15
I received this helpful information in a comment over on Tony O's article on his forthcoming book about Scientology’s most infamous campaign of terror - against Paulette Cooper

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noseinabk >  Mary_McConnell • an hour ago

Thought you may be interested in keeping an eye on this group. Just a small mention of upcoming Narconon in Maryland. https://www.facebook.com/events/1398263630472539/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular

Baltimore Life Improvement Center Special Event
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    Public · Family · Hosted by Baltimore Life Improvement Center   
    Thursday, January 22
    at 7:00pm - 9:00pm
       
    9170 route 108 columbia md 21045 Suite 200 smile savers dentistry

In Smile Savers Dentistry

Come join us to kick off 2015 . Hear about upcoming events . Hear about last year success stories. Find out how you can help
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John Stanard asked a question.
January 8 at 9:55am

Judy -- I've put this in my calendar and am planning to attend. Let me know if you would like me to give everyone an update on the Maryland Narconon cycle, which is now moving forward.     
https://www.facebook.com/events/1398263630472539/?source=1

Narconon Trout Run is moving forward. Looks like I have to call the state licensing again to see if they applied yet.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on January 11, 2015, 09:13
Interesting that this is being held at a dental clinic. Remember the Harlingen dentist that was involved with Narconon?
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Scientologist Juan Villarreal, DDS of Harlingen Family Dentistry where a young boy died last year do to incompetence and disregard for patient safety in my opinion. In 2002 Villarreal’s dental clinic was accused of forcing workers to attend training lecture that included Scientology indoctrination. Villarreal has also been accused of trying to impose his Scientology beliefs in public schools. with his “The Way to Happiness Essay Contests. Hayden James has written about his experience working for Villarreal, titled How Radical Scientology Rips Off Medicaid.-there are 181 comments.
http://blog.dentistthemenace.com/2013/02/what-does-scientology-and-muslim.html
http://blog.dentistthemenace.com/2013/02/its-getting-bizarre-in-texas-over-all.html
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 11, 2015, 15:07
Interesting that this is being held at a dental clinic. Remember the Harlingen dentist that was involved with Narconon?
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Scientologist Juan Villarreal, DDS of Harlingen Family Dentistry where a young boy died last year do to incompetence and disregard for patient safety in my opinion. In 2002 Villarreal’s dental clinic was accused of forcing workers to attend training lecture that included Scientology indoctrination. Villarreal has also been accused of trying to impose his Scientology beliefs in public schools. with his “The Way to Happiness Essay Contests. Hayden James has written about his experience working for Villarreal, titled How Radical Scientology Rips Off Medicaid.-there are 181 comments.
http://blog.dentistthemenace.com/2013/02/what-does-scientology-and-muslim.html
http://blog.dentistthemenace.com/2013/02/its-getting-bizarre-in-texas-over-all.html
Yes, but the event about the Baltimore Life Improvement Center which may or may not be located at the dental clinic.  Baltimore Life Improvement Center is or will be a new mission or group of the church of that name, not a Narconon.

John Stanard is just asking if he can give an update on the new upcoming Narconon ( Trout Run aka DC ) at that Baltimore Life Improvement Center event. I doubt that dentist has anything to do with Narconon but certainly there is yet another scientologist dentist branching out to help expand the cult.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on January 15, 2015, 09:42
You know, if a rehab has to try to evade scrutiny by being so secretive, potential clients really have good cause to be concerned about why they're trying so hard to hide.  If I were in the position of a potential client having concerns like this, I'd just go ahead and cross it off my "potential facilities" list.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: noseinabk on March 06, 2015, 15:34
I re-checked these sites today.
http://www.mdcsl.org/search.html
Maryland Community Services locator
Nothing found in a search for Fredrick county zip code 21788 under Substance abuse treatment (certified), substance abuse prevention/recovery programs, support groups or adult education.

http://bha.dhmh.maryland.gov/SitePages/Maryland%20Certified%20Treatment%20Directory.aspx
No new listings found.

No new chatter on Facebook from John Stanard or the crew at the Baltimore Life Improvement Center.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on March 06, 2015, 23:11
Thanks for the update, noseinabk.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 04, 2015, 07:44
Here we go.....

New Narconon Site in Maryland. Hearing Tuesday.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38967-New-Narconon-Site-in-Maryland-Hearing-Tuesday

Trout Run Scientology affiliates plan recovery center at historic retreat

By Bethany Rodgers scarignan@newspost.com | 4 comments
Posted on Apr 4, 2015
Posted: Saturday, April 4, 2015 2:15 am
brodgers@newspost.com

Owners of the storied Trout Run property are seeking a county historical designation so they can convert the Thurmont retreat into a substance abuse center affiliated with the Church of Scientology.

The 40-acre camp whose stream was once fished by President Herbert Hoover was sold in 2013 to a Los Angeles-based property holdings group. The property’s new owners are looking to renovate the rustic Catoctin Mountain lodges for the opening of a drug treatment center run by the Narconon program. [..]

[..]But the project’s viability hinges on whether local officials agree to add Trout Run to the Frederick County Register of Historic Places. The request for this historic designation is set to come before the County Council for a public hearing on Tuesday. [..]
Social Betterment's Request:
http://www.frederickcountymd.gov/DocumentCenter/View/279794 (http://www.frederickcountymd.gov/DocumentCenter/View/279794)

If You Go

    What: County Council public hearing on historical designation for Trout Run property

    When: 4:30 p.m. Tuesday

    Where: Winchester Hall, 12 E. Church Street, Frederick

Read on for more
 
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/governmental_and_political_topics/health_and_welfare/scientology-affiliates-plan-recovery-center-at-historic-retreat/article_0fb90e47-9dde-57a6-9368-df64a7dca59c.html (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/governmental_and_political_topics/health_and_welfare/scientology-affiliates-plan-recovery-center-at-historic-retreat/article_0fb90e47-9dde-57a6-9368-df64a7dca59c.html)

Spread the news. Sent complaints to 
councilmembers@frederickcountymd.gov
4/7/2015 Agenda
VIII. Public Hearing:
a. To Consider Designation of ‘Trout Run (Richey Lodge)’ located at 12929 Catoctin Hollow Road, as a Listed Site on the Frederick County Register of Historic Places – Denis Superczynski, Community Development Division
Public comments will be limited to three (3) minutes for individual speakers.
The Council may take action following the public hearing.
IX. Public Comment (Three-Minute Presentation)
It is the policy of the County Council to permit public comments and/or requests at this time with
comments being limited three minutes per person. Personnel matters are confidential and cannot
be received through this kind of forum.
http://www.frederickcountymd.gov/Archive.aspx?ADID=6479
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 04, 2015, 08:34
Having been through several "Historic Places" hearings, a bit of advice. If you go, don't go off on a tangent about how bad narCONon is. Comments at public hearings are normally limited to the specific subject the hearing is about. In this case whether to list the facility as a 'Historic Place' or not.

Any discussion related to narCONon itself, e.g., all the lawsuits currently on going, etc., that do not relate directly to the site designation discussion, one way or the other, will either be cut off or ignored.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: chipgallo on April 04, 2015, 10:32
It would be helpful to see what would clearly denote a non-historic location. And if you know who sits on the approval panel, background material could be sent so they know what they are up against, i.e., who is moving into the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 04, 2015, 20:02
If you are in the area and go to speak, I would suggest pointing out the "Historic Property" disasters Cof$ has already been involved in. Don't have time to dig out the locations right now (on my way out the door), but there's the UK building full of squatters that still hasn't been repaired since the fire. The US (Milwaukee??) historic building they got slapped down on for pulling the blue terazzo front off, and being ordered to put it back. The Boston building that was supposed to be renovated, but ended up being torn down. There are others, but the general idea is to point out what really, really, bad stewards of historic properties these folks are.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Ananon on April 05, 2015, 04:16
On Tony's blog a poster named Del Tashlin showed up, who is living close to (probably) the Trout Run site, asking for help in stopping Narconon. I referred to this site, but it might be useful to contact her as well on the e-mail addy she left in the comment: awesome.del@gmail.com.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: noseinabk on April 06, 2015, 12:18
Thank you Ananon for posting that email from Tony's blog. I have sent an email with a link here.
I am composing an email for the council about empty Scientology buildings. So far I have:

UK
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-26936135
Empty for 8 years, a North east England property , The Windmill Hills former school and care home in Gateshead remains empty.
"It's the whole area it obviously affects, because people know the building was a lovely old building and for somewhere just to go downhill like that, it's just a real shame."
"There's always squatters, drug addicts, that sort of thing in there,"
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Philadelphia, PA
http://gizmodo.com/philly-is-suing-scientology-over-its-vacant-cathedral-1475854816
Philadelphia building empty empty since 2007.
Now, the city's Department of Licenses & Inspections is taking the church to "blight court," a special municipal court that deals with violations like an ordinance that outlaws any building from boarding up multiple doors and windows (the church's tower has several).
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Boston, MA
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/09/23/stalled-scientology-development-latest-delay-long-effort-restore-blighted-hotel-alexandra/u4QoLkXcX3wX6Le7tNGfoN/story.html

Bostons Hotel Alexandra empty and boarded up since 2008.
-------------------------------
Canada
http://www.examiner.com/review/canada-s-new-future-scientology-advanced-organization

"Sources from across Canada say the church buildings are literally crumbling to the ground.
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Auckland New Zealand, building empty since 2007.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8976938/Scientology-on-move-maybe
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 06, 2015, 13:05
Thanks, noseinabk. I alerted a some folks to this post, as well.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 06, 2015, 15:46
Found some notes, and it was the "Braley Building" in Pasadena, CA they pulled the blue tiles off the facade of while creating their "Ideal Org". The tiles were part of a historic Beaux Arts style building facade that wasn't supposed to be touched. Pasadena made them put them back.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 06, 2015, 17:49
I've been reading a bunch of docs on this matter and found that Narconon applied for an exception to the zoning ordinance so they can eventually run a group home there ( under 14 patients). The exceptions are a group home , among others.  Taking the route as a registered historical site would aid them in gettig this approval but they have to get exceptions OK'd by the commissioners.

What is interesting is that they have not yet applied for a license yet and would never qualify as a medically supervised group home nor a substance abuse facility, according to the state regs.

They also applied for this in the name of a different "owner". The reporter did her homework and outed them in that article. I'm glad she did. I would have never found the docs had she not writen about it and provided doc links that lead to others.

I wish I had time to upload and link the documents but I am too busy reading and deciphering them and corresponding with people from the area who contacted me for advice on how to approach the meeting.
Here is one pdf  that explains what they plan to do. It's a FREDERICK COUNTY BOARD OF APPEALS
STAFF REPORT on an appeal the "owners" of Trout Run filed back in 2013. Notice no mention of Narconon or Social Betterment Development Properties International, the actual owner.

B-13-09 - Frederick County Government
http://www.frederickcountymd.gov/DocumentCenter/View/263676

One can see the ownership info here http://sdat.resiusa.org/RealProperty/Pages/default.aspx
Search using : County is Frederick County and the method is Property Account Identifier
Here are the two properties they own there :

District - 15 Account Number - 340851
District - 15 Account Number - 340878
 
Keep in mind that in the Burgess Class Action case out of Georgia, one of the exhibits was the newsletter from the IAS stating that they planned to use this property as an Ideal Narconon and provide treatment and training.  So much for pretending to be planning a group home.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/155835440/Burgess-Opposition-to-Dismiss-Exhibit-T (https://www.scribd.com/doc/155835440/Burgess-Opposition-to-Dismiss-Exhibit-T)

More info on the Ideal Narconons can be found about this here
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12855.msg34837.html#msg34837 (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12855.msg34837.html#msg34837)

The property purchase etc discussion on the forum can be found here
Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12793.0.html
 (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12793.0.html)

Lots of stuff to slog through and little time but I'm doing what I can so the heart of the approval matter at hand is understood and addressed at the meeting tomorrow. I'll post when I can and with updates.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 06, 2015, 23:57
How can "West Coast Property Investments", whoever they are, be filing for a 'Special Exception' on August 22, 2013 when the property still belonged to Trout Run, LLC at that time? The deed didn't transfer to SBPI until September 16, 2013

Whoever they are, it looks like 'West Coast Property Investments, Inc' is located in San Dieago, CA with a staff of two. Greg Riley, president, and someone else.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on April 07, 2015, 09:22
They also applied as a group home in Ontario. It seems to be their current foot-in-the-door tactic. I'm sure that if successful, they'd quickly violate the number caps.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 07, 2015, 13:32
Quick note for Form 990 hunters:

Social Betterment Properties International's official EIN assigned by the IRS is: 86-1067526

The EIN used on the 2005-2008 Form 990's I've tracked down so far is: 86-1667526

Which means on some 990 repository sites using the official EIN gets you nothing, unless you search by name.

A typo one year I can see. The exact same typo four years in a row is something else. And considering they still have rental incomes, where are the 990's after 2008??
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 07, 2015, 22:24
Linking additional thread on this topic.
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12888.msg35221.html#msg35221
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: noseinabk on April 07, 2015, 22:31
Posted by Vaquera at Ortega's blog:http:
//www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/treatment/county-delays-vote-on-scientology-affiliated-drug-rehab-center/article_f718ccb9-4e76-512c-a0d1-f235cc4a7e4b.html?mode=jqm
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 07, 2015, 23:10
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“Most of the speakers expressed concern about what they’d heard about the religion, which Linowes and Blocher attorney Bruce Dean addressed. Dean has been representing the property owner through their presentations and applications to the county.

There’s been some discussion about Scientology and how it’s bad,” Dean said. Though others may judge Scientologists’ beliefs or practices, he said, “I don’t know. I’m a land-use attorney.”

There is plenty of documentation to support the fact that Narconon is a dangerous program without focusing on the Scientology angle.  I'm wondering if RLUIPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Land_Use_and_Institutionalized_Persons_Act) will come into play again, as it did in Sandy Springs (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,3137.0.html) with the Idle Org rezoning.

Of course, scientology is in between a rock and a hard place if they want to play the RLUIPA card. Narconon is secular, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 07, 2015, 23:40
Okay, discovered I had found, and forgot, why SBPI stopped filing 990's and posted about it on WWP back in 2012:

Social Betterment Properties Inc, EIN: 86-1067526, stopped filing 990's after 2008 because they changed their NTEE Catagory to 'X02', where X = Religious, 02 = Management and Technical Assistance. And if there's any doubt that narCONon and the $cientology 'religion' are linked, SBPI's Mission Statement should put them to rest (emphasis added):

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SOCIAL BETTERMENT PROPERTIES INTERNATIONAL (SBPI) WAS FORMED TO ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN BUILDINGS AND OTHER REAL ESTATE UTILIZED BY SOCIAL BETTERMENT ORGANIZATIONS CARRYING OUT PROGRAMS THAT UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY AND METHODS DEVELOPED BY L. RON HUBBARD AND THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH AND SUPPORTED BY THE SCIENTOLOGY RELIGION.

Can be seen on Guidestar at http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/86-1067526/social-betterment-properties-international.aspx

So when this came up at the Public Hearing:

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Rodgers said the Narconon center is not intended to be a recruiting tool for the Church of Scientology and that Narconon is “a non-religious program.”

Rodgers lied.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 08, 2015, 07:47
On Twitter, a local citizen reached out to me with her outrage this is happening and seemed interested in doing something to stop it. I sent her here as well, but it might helpful for somebody actively involved with harpooning this to reach out to her:

https://twitter.com/cdigennaro/status/585562003776897024

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 08, 2015, 08:54
County delays vote on Scientology-affiliated drug rehab center
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/treatment/county-delays-vote-on-scientology-affiliated-drug-rehab-center/article_f718ccb9-4e76-512c-a0d1-f235cc4a7e4b.html
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The Frederick County Council voted Tuesday to postpone a decision on a historic designation for the Scientology-affiliated drug treatment center planned for Thurmont.

...

Whew!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 08, 2015, 13:20
Holy bitch-slap smackeroos! The AP did a shortened version of the above story that is spreading fairly quick! This being the highest profile reprint I've seen so far:

Some Fight Drug Rehab Center At Former Presidential Retreat
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/some-fight-drug-rehab-center-at-former-presidential-retreat/
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 08, 2015, 22:44
Comments are open on the Baltimore story.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on April 09, 2015, 09:49
Holy bitch-slap smackeroos! The AP did a shortened version of the above story that is spreading fairly quick! This being the highest profile reprint I've seen so far:

Some Fight Drug Rehab Center At Former Presidential Retreat
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/some-fight-drug-rehab-center-at-former-presidential-retreat/

"A Narconon executive says the program is non-religious and wouldn’t be used for church recruiting."

If it's non-religious, why do they use the same coursework the "church" <gag> uses: The Narconon Program (http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-potential-clients/narconon-information/the-narconon-program/)?
Title: Update Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 09, 2015, 22:54
The hearing was held on 4/7/2015 with the Frederick County Council on deciding whether to approve or not the Preservation Commission and Appeals Board recommendations for the Narconon Trout Run property owners to obtain a place on the Frederick County Historic Places Registry. The decision was postponed until April 21st so that the council could have time to digest all that was presented, stated and commented on, as well as the ordinances related to the matter. 

That meeting can be seen or heard here at these links:
Online Video oh hearing: ( starts at 10th dot mark on the video timing marker )
http://frederick.granicus.com/AgendaViewer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=4807
Audio only:  mp3:
http://media-09.granicus.com:443/OnDemand/frederick/frederick_de936d4a-9e63-4810-8c50-98539f252b42.mp3

I must say that I was very impressed by the wonderful well informed and concerned community members who managed to get to the 4:30pm hearing and speak up against this Scientology and Narconon property getting on the County Historic Places Registry. I hope to see some visit here and perhaps join in. :)

It may well be that the council is forced to rubber stamp the approvals made before it reached the council because the ordinance is so weak, allowing any property owner with only a minimum of one of the ten listed criteria to obtain a place on the registry. This was seemingly a surprise to all members of the council, many of whom I believe are newly or recently elected and not familiar with having to decide such a thing before. A former councilman, Kai Hagen, presented  in documented form what I believe are the best specifics on why Trout Run should not get on the registry. I am hoping the council takes time to read and consider his understanding of the issue and the location enough to effect a NAY vote in the majority.

In the meantime, we know that  Narconon cannot start the process of applying for a  "group Home" as they called in their application, unless they get this approval. If they obtain the OK by the council to be on the Registry, the next step, as stated by Narconon East US president Yvonne Rodgers, is to finalize discussions with the Dept of Mental Health in fitting in the Narconon program into their requirements. She stated she and Narconon have been n talks with that agency for over a year now trying to work something out. My belief is that Narconon is going to fudge an application to fit what the Mental Health agency wants to see for a group home, which Narconon will never supply. Either that or they will get in as an educationally based treatment program. It was mentioned by a community member commenter that they may try to get in as a Scientology "faith based" program ( not needing license ), but I think this is a last resort .  Narconon would then be forced settle all the lawsuits against it and then go this route for all programs across the USA. I just don't see this yet.

I think they will try to file as they managed in NV. using loopholes to make it look like a vocational life skills program. However, Maryland has strong regulations and laws protecting patients from the likes of fake rehab program and scam artists like Narconon and group homes like in other states that are running programs without any oversight. As well, out counselor requirements are excellent and I just don't see them being minimized to allow untrained counselors like Narconon uses.

In my next comment here, I will post information to inform on the difference between the 2 agencies, their programs and their licensing requirements, including online documents, applications and COMAR law references.

I will also post agency contact information.


Mary
 
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 09, 2015, 22:55
Info about the Narconon Program:

Here are two links on our sister site Narconon Reviews, where the general and concerned public can get more information on the Narconon program

The Narconon Program
and here:http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-potential-clients/narconon-information/the-narconon-program/

Narconon information = Resources for potential clients
http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-potential-clients/narconon-information/


Info and contact details on the Trout Run matter

Group homes are not Residential Programs for substance abuse treatment, at least not according to the information I found below, and in other references I will include here:
See separate categories and page links for Mental Health ​Substance Abuse
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SitePages/Home.aspx

This approach to getting a Group Home certification rather than applying as a residential substance abuse facility program is being done because Narconon's program does not meet the criteria for a licensed certified substance abuse program, not do their counselors meet licensing and educational requirements.

We critics know that Narconon is Scientology and Scientology is anti-psychiatry and anti mental health treatment as we know it. There is no therapy in the program, despite the lies they tell people to lure them into paying for the program and sending vulnerable loved ones to their facilities.

Office of Health Care Quality oversees both Community Mental Health Unit is the licensing and approval agent for the Mental Health Administration (MHA) ( Group Homes included ) and the  Alcohol and Drug Abuse Adminisration

COMAR Subtitle 47 ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE ADMINISTRATION
10.47.01 - Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration
10.47.01 Requirements
10.47.02 Specific Program Requirements
10.47.04 Certification Requirements
10.47.05 Education Programs
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/subtitle_chapters/10_Chapters.aspx#Subtitle47

Mental Health http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/MH

The Community Mental Health Unit is the licensing and approval agent for the Mental Health Administration (MHA) and as such, its primary function is to ensure that consumers in the state of Maryland receive quality mental health services. This is achieved through the regulatory process as governed by the Code of Maryland Regulations (COMAR) Title 10 Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Subtitle 21 Mental Hygiene Administration.

COMAR 10.21 Subtitle 21 MENTAL HYGIENE REGULATIONS
10.21.04 Community Mental Health Programs—Group Homes for Adults with Mental Illness
10.21.03 Requirements for Individual Treatment Plans
10.21.07 Therapeutic Group Homes
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/subtitle_chapters/10_Chapters.aspx#Subtitle21

Group Homes for Adults with Mental Illness, Mental Health Vocational Prgms., Mobile Treatment Svcs., Nurse Referral Agencies, Nursing Staff Agencies, Outpatient Mental Health Ctr., Psych. Rehab. Prgms., Psych. Rehab Svcs for Minors, Psych. Day Treatment Svcs., Partial Hospitalization Prgrm., Residential Rehab. Prgms., Residential Crisis Svcs., Respite Care Svcs., Therapeutic Group Homes, Therapeutic Nursery Prgms.
   
​Substance Abuse http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA

Outpatient Treatment Programs
Residential Programs
Detoxification Treatment

Toll Free Phone : 877-402-8220
Local Phone : 410-402-8060
Fax: 410-402-8056
The Community Mental Health Unit is the licensing and approval agent for the Mental Health Administration (MHA) and as such, its primary function is to ensure that consumers in the state of Maryland receive quality mental health services. This is achieved through the regulatory process as governed by the Code of Maryland Regulations (COMAR) Title 10 Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Subtitle 21 Mental Hygiene Administration.

Substance Abuse
Licensure, FAQS and applications
 Application Packet - COMAR 10.47 - Alcohol and Drug Abuse Administration (PDF) Print Only
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/docs/SA%20Application%20FINAL.pdf
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/sitePages/Licensure.aspx

Mental Health
Application, Program Modification and Licensure Requirements
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/MH/sitePages/Licensure.aspx
   
Therapeutic Group Homes Only : Therapeutic Group Homes Application
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/MH/docs/The%20Community%20Mental%20Health%20-%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf

New - FAQs for the Community Mental Health Licensure
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/MH/docs/The%20Community%20Mental%20Health%20-%20Licensing%20FAQ.pdf

Office of Health Care Quality
55 Wade Avenue
Catonsville, MD 21228
Executive Director , Tricia Nay, M.D.
ohcq.web@maryland.gov
410-402-8015
1-877-463-3464 Toll Free

Administration
Main number 410-402-8018
Toll-free 877-402-8218
Fax 410-402-8211
    
Substance Abuse Programs
Outpatient Treatment Programs
Residential Programs
Detoxification Treatment

Toll Free Phone : 877-402-8220
Local Phone : 410-402-8060
Fax: 410-402-8056
Main number 410-402-8095
Toll-free 877-402-8218
Fax 410-402-8056    
   
Community Mental Health Programs ( Group Homes )
Main number 410-402-8060
Toll-free 877-402-8220
Fax 410-402-8214

Licensing information on substance abuse counselors:
Board of Professional Counselors & Therapists    
Tracey Deshields
Executive Director
Tracey.Deshields@maryland.gov
410-764-4732
410-358-1610 Fax
1-877-463-3464 Toll Free
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 11, 2015, 17:45
Over at youtube, Intelligence put together a brief 11 minute video of the comments of the hearing.

Scientology Appeal to Open Narconon in Frederick County, Maryland
https://youtu.be/cmTXUsaPlWY (https://youtu.be/cmTXUsaPlWY)

I was very sick that day ( all week actually ) and tried my best to say something on such short notice, when the issues were not clear, especially for the council who were not sure what they were voting on. At one point I thought I was going to faint but hung in there.

I was very impressed by the others who spoke and so relieved that they all supported our platform for a denial. They were courageous. Social Betterment's attorney was visibly upset

It's clear that the public knows Narconon is Scientology and Scientology is bad thing.

Mary
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 11, 2015, 18:37
Quote
Social Betterment's attorney was visibly upset
He sure was!  ;)

You did a great job under difficult circumstances. Thanks for going to the hearing and speaking up.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 11, 2015, 19:38
Besides our forum and the wonderfully informative Narconon Reviews website ( http://narcononreviews.net ) also visit:

Some of the same  info as above and additional information can be found on these 2 forums:
Ex-Scientologist Message Board
New Narconon Site in Maryland. Hearing Tuesday.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38967-New-Narconon-Site-in-Maryland-Hearing-Tuesday

Anonymous Forum - Why We Protest
Narconon in Trout Run, Maryland
Discussion in 'Narconon' started by The Wrong Guy, Apr 3, 2015.
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/narconon-in-trout-run-maryland.125200/

Places to visit
Facebook Groups
Narconon Reviews .net  - Public Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/472351746188994/

Casualties of Narconon - Public Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/5347605858

SayNoNarcononWarburton  - Closed Facebook Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/567258080001131/

Maybe someone can start a Say NO to Narconon Trout Run?

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 11, 2015, 20:01
Quote
Social Betterment's attorney was visibly upset
He sure was!  ;)

You did a great job under difficult circumstances. Thanks for going to the hearing and speaking up.

Thank you, mefree  \--O--/
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 18, 2015, 09:06
Sylvia Carignan from the Frederick News-Post does an excellent follow up:

Local residents dispute historic nature of Trout Run
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/environment/local-residents-dispute-historic-nature-of-trout-run/article_6ad8b763-4376-5247-a648-c766e4b5ad2d.html
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Some Frederick County residents believe the Trout Run retreat doesn’t deserve the historic designation it would need to become a proposed Scientology-affiliated drug rehabilitation center.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 20, 2015, 19:37
Does the Trout Run retreat deserve a historic designation? - The Frederick News-Post (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/news_regular_features/daily_poll/does-the-trout-run-retreat-deserve-a-historic-designation/poll_80093ddd-6971-5e62-9bad-d908a1ff4bad.html)

No registration required! Vote NO today.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 20, 2015, 21:29
Thanks, mefree.

Readers,  here is some other news that came out today and a place where people can comment on it, using Disqus commenting system which is a 1, 2, 3, quick registration for those not using it already

Trout Run Property Owners Seek Approval for Scientology-Linked Drug Treatment Center
Mallory Sofastaii Your4state.com  Nexstar Broadcasting, Inc.
04/20/2015 03:36 PM. 04/20/2015 07:32 PM

http://www.your4state.com/story/d/story/trout-run-property-owners-seek-approval-for-scient/41806/O46Kc6UKm06Wl4AMALkcRg (http://www.your4state.com/story/d/story/trout-run-property-owners-seek-approval-for-scient/41806/O46Kc6UKm06Wl4AMALkcRg)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 20, 2015, 21:38
'Yes' is currently in the lead with 42.4%, 'No' is at 37.5%, and 'Where's Trout Run?' at 20.1%.

I think the 'Where's Trout Run?' bit is skewing the results. Maybe a quick cross post to WWP, ESMB, and TonyO's pages will help if someone has the time.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 20, 2015, 22:11
Like your comment on the 'Your4State' page Mary, lays it out plain and simple. New one up laying out the "narCONon is secular" lie too.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 00:59
Like your comment on the 'Your4State' page Mary, lays it out plain and simple. New one up laying out the "narCONon is secular" lie too.

Thanks BB. And thanks for your efforts, especially over at WWP on this!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 01:04
'Yes' is currently in the lead with 42.4%, 'No' is at 37.5%, and 'Where's Trout Run?' at 20.1%.

I think the 'Where's Trout Run?' bit is skewing the results. Maybe a quick cross post to WWP, ESMB, and TonyO's pages will help if someone has the time.

Gee, this is bad... more yes'. They must have the troops out hitting up the yes. We need NO's

It's OK on the "Where's Trout Run" because that just goes to show that no one even knows about the place. More evidence that it's not historic.

But can you get the NO vote mentioned. I hope there was not a misunderstanding on this and critics are hitting YES when they should hit NO
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on April 21, 2015, 09:43
A new drill for the TRs: "Do Trout Run?"
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 21, 2015, 13:21
Put a note up on WWP and TonyO's earlier, and it looks like "NO" has pulled slightly ahead on the Fredricksburg News-Post poll. As of a minute a go it's "NO" 44.1%, "YES" 41.2%, and "Where is?" at 14.7%.

Another 3 hours or so and I guess will find out the results from the only vote that really matters.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 13:50
A new drill for the TRs: "Do Trout Run?"

 3((:
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 13:52
Put a note up on WWP and TonyO's earlier, and it looks like "NO" has pulled slightly ahead on the Fredricksburg News-Post poll. As of a minute a go it's "NO" 44.1%, "YES" 41.2%, and "Where is?" at 14.7%.

Another 3 hours or so and I guess will find out the results from the only vote that really matters.

Thanks BigBeard! That's good to know. I'll keep pushing for votes where ever I can. 
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 21, 2015, 17:46
Any word from the hearing yet?
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 21, 2015, 19:20
Sylvia Carignan from Frederick News-Post live tweeted and it was webcast. Decision postponed for a month. More details here: https://twitter.com/SylviaCarignan
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 21, 2015, 19:34
Bummer.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 20:21
Sylvia Carignan from Frederick News-Post live tweeted and it was webcast. Decision postponed for a month. More details here: https://twitter.com/SylviaCarignan

Thanks so much, AL, I have been out all day and have had no access to the internet until now and just missed the decision part on the LIVE link

Her tweets are perfect for updating forum readers. Best read in reverse, lol

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Sylvia Carignan
@SylviaCarignan

 
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council moves on to the next item. The debate over a Narconon drug treatment center for Trout Run goes on.
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Otis' vote postpones the decision. Shreve says they should change the county slogan to "We will make a decision, eventually."
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council will now vote on whether to postpone the decision more than 30 days from now, to allow review of documents and testimony...
0 retweets 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Shreve: "This applicant has vested thousands of dollars in this already."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Shreve on Trout Run: "I don't see any reason why we shouldn't move forward, vote on this tonight." Says postponing costs applicant money.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Chomel: Members of the HPC, which have already signed off on this, are experts.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Chomel: "This is a very limited role."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Sr. assistant Frederick County attorney Michael Chomel: Council must limit its decision to historic nature. Not use, not applicant's beliefs
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council member Billy Shreve wants to vote now on Trout Run designation. "This is one of the easiest decisions we'll ever make."
2 retweets 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Donald also says he's not ready to vote on Trout Run historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council member Tony Chmelik says the decision should not be postponed. "The HPC has definitely done their due diligence on this one."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Keegan-Ayer moves to close the record and postpone the decision to allow the council to digest information.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

County council member M.C. Keegan-Ayer asking about records of Hoover visiting the site. Kuranda: "It's a side note."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Kuranda on Trout Run: "It is a very special, well-integrated design that respects the landscape."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Donald: Camp David, etc. are built like this. Why is Trout Run special? Kuranda: The unique details + fact that it's private set it apart.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

County councilmember Jerry Donald: The evidence for Herbert Hoover and fishing "got dropped pretty quickly."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean on granting historic designation for Trout Run: "It's a win-win for the county."
2 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: No professionals have testified that the Trout Run site does not deserve historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: "I think there is a slight misunderstanding of the role of what we're trying to do here."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kuranda: No evidence has been presented to refute the argument for Trout Run's historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kuranda: Trout Run is an intact example of rustic camp architecture.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kate Kuranda, historical consultant for the project, giving an overview of the approvals they've received for the drug treatment ctr plan.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean asking Proffitt questions he already knows the answers to.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: Would construction plans harm Trout Run site? Proffitt: No. "We've worked everything to become a positive."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Summary of Proffitt's whirlwind tour of Trout Run: Lots of rot. And a raccoon.
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: In Trout Run buildings: a rotting deck, water damage, "extensive rot."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: The Yugoslav house has tarp over the roof to temporarily patch a hole. Other buildings have mold, standing water in crawlspace.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: "Birch" building has termite damage in the floor, subfloor, walls. A major renovation project, he says.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

20 minutes on the clock for Bruce Dean's team, starting with architect Michael Proffitt.
1 retweet 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Council president Bud Otis says this is taking longer than anticipated. Public hearings will be moved after 7 p.m. tonight.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Sometimes 5 minutes is 10 minutes. Alright, back on track. Bruce Dean and Michael Proffitt are up with historical consultant Kate Kuranda.

     

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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council moves on to the next item. The debate over a Narconon drug treatment center for Trout Run goes on.
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Otis' vote postpones the decision. Shreve says they should change the county slogan to "We will make a decision, eventually."
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council will now vote on whether to postpone the decision more than 30 days from now, to allow review of documents and testimony...
0 retweets 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Shreve: "This applicant has vested thousands of dollars in this already."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Shreve on Trout Run: "I don't see any reason why we shouldn't move forward, vote on this tonight." Says postponing costs applicant money.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Chomel: Members of the HPC, which have already signed off on this, are experts.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Chomel: "This is a very limited role."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Sr. assistant Frederick County attorney Michael Chomel: Council must limit its decision to historic nature. Not use, not applicant's beliefs
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council member Billy Shreve wants to vote now on Trout Run designation. "This is one of the easiest decisions we'll ever make."
2 retweets 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Donald also says he's not ready to vote on Trout Run historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Council member Tony Chmelik says the decision should not be postponed. "The HPC has definitely done their due diligence on this one."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

Keegan-Ayer moves to close the record and postpone the decision to allow the council to digest information.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  1h 1 hour ago

County council member M.C. Keegan-Ayer asking about records of Hoover visiting the site. Kuranda: "It's a side note."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kuranda on Trout Run: "It is a very special, well-integrated design that respects the landscape."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Donald: Camp David, etc. are built like this. Why is Trout Run special? Kuranda: The unique details + fact that it's private set it apart.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

County councilmember Jerry Donald: The evidence for Herbert Hoover and fishing "got dropped pretty quickly."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean on granting historic designation for Trout Run: "It's a win-win for the county."
2 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: No professionals have testified that the Trout Run site does not deserve historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: "I think there is a slight misunderstanding of the role of what we're trying to do here."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kuranda: No evidence has been presented to refute the argument for Trout Run's historic designation.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kuranda: Trout Run is an intact example of rustic camp architecture.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Kate Kuranda, historical consultant for the project, giving an overview of the approvals they've received for the drug treatment ctr plan.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean asking Proffitt questions he already knows the answers to.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: Would construction plans harm Trout Run site? Proffitt: No. "We've worked everything to become a positive."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Summary of Proffitt's whirlwind tour of Trout Run: Lots of rot. And a raccoon.
1 retweet 1 favorite
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: In Trout Run buildings: a rotting deck, water damage, "extensive rot."
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: The Yugoslav house has tarp over the roof to temporarily patch a hole. Other buildings have mold, standing water in crawlspace.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Proffitt: "Birch" building has termite damage in the floor, subfloor, walls. A major renovation project, he says.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

20 minutes on the clock for Bruce Dean's team, starting with architect Michael Proffitt.
1 retweet 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Council president Bud Otis says this is taking longer than anticipated. Public hearings will be moved after 7 p.m. tonight.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Sometimes 5 minutes is 10 minutes. Alright, back on track. Bruce Dean and Michael Proffitt are up with historical consultant Kate Kuranda.
0 retweets 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Are there any restaurants in downtown Frederick that can deliver directly to my seat at Winchester Hall? #dinnertime #recessthoughts
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Council is taking a 5 min break to allow him to set up. BTW, you can watch the meeting live here: http://bit.ly/1DbcNPR
1 retweet 0 favorites
Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Michael Proffitt, architect on the project, will give a presentation on the Trout Run site.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Dean: "Your agenda does not make it clear that this is a public hearing." He says he was not prepared with a presentation today.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Bruce Dean, representing #Narconon and the property owner, now up to respond to those comments.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Germantown resident: "If #Scientology or #Narconon takes it over, then it will remain just like it is."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

He said he went to the Church of Scientology in DC. "I decided that I needed help, and they were willing to help me."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Another speaker, this time from Germantown. "Almost 40 years ago to the day, I was a drug addict."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Monrovia resident on closing off Trout Run for a #Narconon center: "I don't see how that furthers Frederick County's history."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

One last speaker, a Monrovia resident. He asks the council: Is the intended use compatible with the historical designation?
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

"Great care needs to be taken with this facility," Cascade resident says.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Resident of Cascade, Md. now up to the mic. "I think you owe it to the citizens of the county to request a study" about Trout Run's history.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Frederick resident: "We do not need another program that prescribes exactly how you follow your addiction," needs to be customized.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Frederick resident, former Way Station drug addiction coach: "There is no one way to solve addiction."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Frederick County resident on #Narconon center: "We do not need it. We do not want it."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Next, a Frederick County resident. "I am concerned who my neighbors are, and who my neighbors will be."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

#Narconon is different because it doesn't use any drugs, Anne Arundel County resident says. "It's almost like a spa."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Anne Arundel County resident now up, says he had a heroin-addicted relative. "It became a big mess in the family."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Another Myersville resident, the teacher's husband, has been in the county since 1974. "The Trout Run property always caught my eye."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

"Trout Run's stories should be preserved and heard" as long as kids will grow up to be presidents and great fishermen, she says.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  2h 2 hours ago

Myersville resident, a teacher, now up to the mic. Trout Run has "greatness" in its history, she says.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Louisiana #Narconon graduate: "It's more than just about a historical designation for this property."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Louisiana #Narconon graduate: "My family found Narconon for me...I'm clean and sober now."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Another #Narconon graduate, this one from Louisiana, at the mic now. "I've seen the downside of addiction, on both sides of the badge."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Exec director of The Jude House: "I am very familiar with #Narconon. I would work with them tomorrow if you opened this program."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

The #Narconon graduate says he lives in Battle Creek, Michigan.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

A #Narconon graduate at the mic now. Says he was a drug addict, was only given more drugs. "I found Narconon. It literally saved my life."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Spring Ridge resident: "It seems quite likely that #Narconon will continue its pattern of abuses here."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Spring Ridge resident: Narconon's interest in the property has no relation to history of site. "It's a smokescreen."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Superczynski is suggesting members of the public be allowed to speak now, then applicant can reply.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Historic Preservation Commission's  Denis Superczynski says he's received "a substantial amount of material" since the last council meeting.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Back to Trout Run. Ready? Let's go.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Side note: County council approves addition of Dr. J. Craig Reed to the Containment Lab Community Advisory Committee.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

There are a few agenda items between here and the council's Trout Run discussion. Will pick back up with that in a little bit.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Only one of 12 speakers during the public comment period weighed in on Trout Run.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  3h 3 hours ago

Kai Hagen steps up to the microphone to talk about Monrovia Town Center, says he's already sent a letter to the council on Trout Run.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  4h 4 hours ago

5 out of 6 speakers so far are concerned about Monrovia Town Center, which was removed from council agenda earlier.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  4h 4 hours ago

Long: "If you really do want to preserve it, this isn’t the applicant that should be doing this."
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  4h 4 hours ago

First speaker on Trout Run is Mark Long of Thurmont. "It's really not contributed anything of significance" to the county, he says.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  4h 4 hours ago

Public comments, limited to 3 min, now starting. 11 people in line to speak.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  4h 4 hours ago

Getting started in a few minutes here with the county council meeting. All council members are present.
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Sylvia Carignan @SylviaCarignan  ·  7h 7 hours ago

Tonight, the Frederick County Council considers a historic designation for Trout Run. Why #Scientology is involved: http://bit.ly/1CkGzBF
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Matt Pearce @mattdpearce  ·  9h 9 hours ago
https://twitter.com/SylviaCarignan
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 21, 2015, 20:27
I did a storify on her tweets for better reference:
https://storify.com/DatumOmNom/frederick-county-council-considers-a-historic-desi
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 20:43
Cool! Will check it out in a moment.

Meantime, just going to post my comment emailed. I also have other comments emailed and will post when I have a few minutes tonight

The body of it

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Dear Chairman Otis and members of the council

Thank you for taking the time to read my brief but well intended thoughts on the proposed designation of the Trout Run property to the Frederick County Historic Name Registry.

After reviewing further information on the matter and the pertinent regulations and details of the applications made that have brought this to the council for decision, I request that you vote NO and they you and the other members of the council consider that you have to look at what the primary purpose is for the property and if it will take away from the very designation it seeks.

In this case, Social Betterment Properties International aka Narconon - a program based on and run completely from the Church of Scientology practices, cannot get the group home OK unless they get this designation. Since Narconon is an alternative and dangerous program, it does not meet the criteria for a regular substance abuse program licensed by the state Substance Abuse division in Maryland because they do not use any mental health services or trained and licensed counselors in the program.

The Church of Scientology, of which Narconon and Social Betterment Properties International are front group members of , runs another front group called Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a group that attacks all forms of mental health care. They do not meet any of the standards of care requirements required by Maryland and their counselors are graduates of the program in the main.

So they are trying to go around that and the land use issue, to get it designated as historic so they can create a "group home" under the mental health agency instead. Their program does not meet the criteria of what is expected from a 'group home" but they are not adverse to lying to make it fit o they can get their program in.

They have done this before, in GA, lying to people and drug courts that it was a residential program when it was only licensed as outpatient. After a patient dies and the family sued, that facility was closed by authorities for fraud as an organized enterprise. The facts are that Scientology is anti-mental health.

Their program does not provide services for the mentally ill and actually do not believe in mental illness and disregard all definitions of all mental disorders and all traditional treatments of them. How is it possible for them to apply for a Group Home when they are not equipt to deal with the clientele a group Home is supposed to provide for. As defined in COMAR  Title 10 Subtitle 21 MENTAL HYGIENE REGULATIONS 10.21.04.02 ----- .02 Definitions. A. In this chapter, terms have the meanings stated in COMAR 10.21.17.
B. Definition of Group Home.  1)(a) For individuals who have been or are under treatment for a mental disorder;

Alcoholism and Substance abuse are considered distinct disorders and are not regulated under the state mental health laws. Only the ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE ADMINISTRATION regulations and laws  Please see Title 10 Subtitle 47 ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE ADMINISTRATION for reference.

Narconon is not only a dangerous program, it's part of a deceptive organization that will do whatever it takes to get what it wants and skirt the law if they have to. They bought this property without looking at the very good laws we have in place to protect people from dangerous programs. To allow this designation on a property, which is no more historic than Walmart, is to give them a license to get away with pretending to run a group home why they run the large scale substance abuse treatment facility and regional training center. One that all the earlier promotions they have put out to scientologists when they started raising funds for the purchase. The council has the documents.

Please look at what the bigger picture, the facts and vote NO. You have no obligation to rubber stamp this project.

And then please consider reviewing and amending the regulations and laws pertaining to the process and criteria for giving these designations because, as they stand, any property can get a designation and subsequent tax breaks by meeting just 1 of the 10 criteria!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 21, 2015, 20:59
Great email, Mary. Thanks to you and AL for posting Sylvia Carnigan's tweets. 

The lady who thinks Narconon is a spa needs to go visit for a week! I think others will beg to differ.

Just a reminder for anyone new here, reading for the first time. There are loads of documents on Narconon Reviews (http://narcononreviews.net/) (health inspection reports, state inspection reports, lawsuits, surveys and more) to get a true picture of what has been happening at Narconon.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 21, 2015, 22:58
Great email, Mary. Thanks to you and AL for posting Sylvia Carnigan's tweets. 

The lady who thinks Narconon is a spa needs to go visit for a week! I think others will beg to differ.

Just a reminder for anyone new here, reading for the first time. There are loads of documents on Narconon Reviews (http://narcononreviews.net/) (health inspection reports, state inspection reports, lawsuits, surveys and more) to get a true picture of what has been happening at Narconon.

Thanks!  I agree about that lady!!

Good going on posting about the documentation over at Narconon Reviews!

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on April 21, 2015, 23:29
WHAG News Report on the County Council meeting:
http://www.your4state.com/story/d/story/scientology-affiliated-rehab-center-tabled/30827/OPJrqdUfGkKnjQGFr4aMgg

Rosenwald from WaPo weighs in again:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/frederick-council-delays-vote-on-scientology-backed-rehab-center/2015/04/21/fc4a5e0e-e87d-11e4-aae1-d642717d8afa_story.html
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on April 22, 2015, 01:24
Reading through the tweets, I'm wondering if those "narCONon saved my life" testimonials were being given by staff from other facilities with a vested interest in the outcome?
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 22, 2015, 20:32
Reading through the tweets, I'm wondering if those "narCONon saved my life" testimonials were being given by staff from other facilities with a vested interest in the outcome?

I thought the same. They are probably current employees. Once the video is posted, we may be able to check.

Nathan Roberts is mentioned in one of the articles AL posted. This could be him:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1642097913&fref=ts
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 22, 2015, 21:04
The video of hearing is now up.

http://frederick.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=4822

Trout Run issue starts around 58 min mark. Best best is to wait til the video rolls and then look at the Index text box below the screen, click the little dot preceding the agenda item lettered d. as noted below:

    . d. To Consider Designation of 'Trout Run (Richey Lodge)' located at 12929 Catoctin Hollow Road, as a Listed Site on the Frederick County Register of Historic Places (Continued from 4/7/15) - Denis Superczynski, Community Development Division(Council Decision

Once the screen is showing that section, you will hear from the planning dept guy names Denis, council questions, then you can scroll ahead to hear Social Betterment Properties' attorney Bruce Dean, ...more questions, public comments and the decision to postpone and why.

I don't know how to embed the whole thing here, or if can be embedded, but here the code

<iframe width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" src="https://frederick.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=4822&embed=1"></iframe>

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 22, 2015, 21:08
Reading through the tweets, I'm wondering if those "narCONon saved my life" testimonials were being given by staff from other facilities with a vested interest in the outcome?

I still have to listen to it, as I just posted it ^^^  but I was told that some staff from other Narconons were sent over there.  I think the former ED from Freedom Center, who relapsed and was removed, IIRC, that he was sent there months ago

DeathMHamster posted on WWP

"One of their happy Narconon customers at the council, Nathan Roberts.

And look here:
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/n/nathan-roberts.html  "
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on April 22, 2015, 23:49
Narconon Reviews mentioned at the hearing just prior to Nathan Roberts. Nathan gives some compelling testimony, but hesitates when asked for his address.

David Judice is a Narconon LA employee, but you already knew that.  ;)

Judice   David   CIT   3303   4/26/2013   3/31/2016   Womack, Quinetta CCS 035   Narcanon Louisiana New Life Retreat   Denham Springs   225-243-5047
http://www.la-adra.org/index.php/component/chronoforms/?chronoform=SearchByLastName&event=submit
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on April 24, 2015, 10:12
I just want to point out this other thread: Trout Run (Maryland) Safepointing? (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12898.0.html)

I don't think they need to be merged, but did want to crosslink them.

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 24, 2015, 17:47
 Asking people to sign and share link to this ipetition created by community members aka 'Protect Frederick'.

    Name and email address for confirmation by ipetitions are all that is required.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tell-the-frederick-county-council-to-vote-against (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tell-the-frederick-county-council-to-vote-against)

    Tell the Frederick County Council to vote against Scientology and their special exception request.

(http://cdn.ipetitions.com/user-images/petitions/tell-the-frederick-county-council-to-vote-against/yy0L88BrSiypxRIH0VTg_Trout-Run-Creek-574x430.png)

    "The Frederick County Council has postponed their vote till next month on whether or not to grant the Scientology arm, Narconon, a special historic designation at Trout Run. Without the historical designation the current zoning code would never allow for the renovation and facility they intend. This is a clear attempt to skirt proper zoning.
    The Frederick County Council is an elected-policy making body. They have the right and responsibility to consider all aspects, and all consequences of their decision.
    Please join us in telling them to vote to protect Frederick, and vote against this motion. "

    Thanks!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 25, 2015, 23:36
FYI readers:
This property purchase first came up on this thread back in 2013. There are some informative posts  in that thread about Trout Run and some staff members, from this post on to the end of it.
Re: Hey, isn't that the ED of Narconon Freedom Center?
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12646.msg33767.html#msg33767
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 03, 2015, 00:36
While I still can't figure out how a property holding organization can be "religious", or how they managed to get classed that way by the IRS, I think I figured out why. Aside from the fact they no longer have to file 990's.

I think it's for situations exactly like Trout Run. Everyone's focusing on the "secular" narCONon, and forgetting it's actually the "religious" SBPI that purchased the property. Which means if the ruling goes against them SBPI, not narCONon, will just about be guaranteed to bring a "religious discrimination" lawsuit against the county.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on May 03, 2015, 14:37
If they were granted religious tax exemption they would be in the IRS database. Seems far more likely that dropped their tax exempt status imo.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 03, 2015, 15:49
They are in the IRS Exempt Organization Database. This is current as of 04/16/2015:

EIN: 861067526
SOCIAL BETTERMENT PROPERTIES INTERNATIONAL
6331 HOLLYWOOD BLVD
LOS ANGELES CA
90028-6321
0000
03 [Tax Exempt]
3
NTEE: X02

And this is from the on-line 'IRS Select Check' using an EIN search about 5 minutes ago:

EIN             Legal Name (Doing Business As)             City             ST Country          Deductibility Status
86-1067526 Social Betterment Properties International Los Angeles    CA United States SOUNK

They went from "Tax Exempt - Other" to "Tax Exempt - Religious" in 2009, so their last 990 was filed for 2008. None filed since, because it's not required for "Religious" organizations. The 'Deductability Status' of SOUNK means only 50% of donations are deductable by the donor.

And that "Religious" status is what makes SBPI being the purchaser of the land stickier than if "Secular" narCONon had bought it when it comes to any decisions by state or local agencies. It opens the possibility of a "Religious Discrimination" lawsuit narCONon wouldn't be able to use.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on May 03, 2015, 21:12
Ahh, ok. Thks BB.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Juicer77 on May 08, 2015, 11:24
New FNP article: http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/columns/no-to-narcanon/article_f3d194f0-ac77-5385-b59f-bd9c858bbe85.html

Couple of pro-clam comments, couple of us on the Bunker can't figure out why we can't add our two cents. Argh!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 08, 2015, 11:40
From one of the article comments:

Quote
newspostreader - Can you cite your sources to prove their method of treatment, force to learn scientology, and the deaths and lawsuits being filed? Otherwise, it's just rumor.

I have to leave for a Dr. appoint. Anyone care to reply to this person with the lawsuit links and the $cientology vs narCONon book links?
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 09, 2015, 18:20
I found the other night that Social Betterment Properties International, aka SBPI, is a Church of Scientology 'auxiliary' entity and does not have to file 990 tax forms. I want to kick myself for not digging further and sooner on that.

Here is a link where, halfway down the page, explains the SBPI entity relation to the Church of Scientology and the category of IRS regulations it belongs under and some history of their existence since about 2003 buying properties for the church social betterment entities like Narconon. Don't know how this was missed... 

Since SBPI has not filed a 990 non-profit  tax return since and only in in 2008, if you go to this page, further down it mentions SBPI's status as an "integrated auxiliary," of the church.  Look at this information and click and read the linked pdf file noted. This explains in part why no tax returns, no IRS listing in their database. I still have to check with the IRS on this but I believe this is where things are for SBPI, the owner of Trout Run
http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/sbpi-incorporation.pdf#page=3 (http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/sbpi-incorporation.pdf#page=3)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 09, 2015, 18:21
2 upcoming meeting about Trout Run - this Tuesday and Wednesday:
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/11165854_10204257419016562_410761974_n.jpg?oh=85231168e2cea129d8727cd5aac77e11&oe=554FFA71)

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 10, 2015, 00:05
Mary,

As noted in my reply above (#73), SBPI is in the IRS Exempt Organization Database and it's also in the on-line IRS Select Check listing. Although for select check, it's best to search using the EIN. Because for some stupid reason the NAME field is set up as an "OR" search, instead of an "AND" search. So SOCIAL BETTERMENT PROPERTIES returns everything with SOCIAL, BETTERMENT, or PROPERTIES in the name.

Originially SBPI was "Exempt - Other", which is why there are 990's up until 2008. Some time in late 2008 or early 2009 that was changed to "Exempt - Religious" and the 990's stopped. I'm still trying to track down the justification for the change. But, aside from being a crock, that change is what lets them get nasty with "Religious Discrimination" suits when they don't get their way.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on May 12, 2015, 23:44
Group speaks out against Narconon's plans for Trout Run
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/locations/local/frederick_county/thurmont-emmitsburg/group-speaks-out-against-narconon-s-plans-for-trout-run/article_ccf3d10c-3bb0-55ed-af25-ab377f32da85.html

On FB, it was mentioned that WaPo and NYTimes were also there.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Juicer77 on May 13, 2015, 09:08
Another footbullet for the Co$, sorry if this is a double-post...

http://m.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/treatment/q-a-with-church-of-scientology-directors/article_e4ae7f64-708d-51bc-9294-ffe1a9463da5.html?mode=jqm

Feel free to comment :)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 13, 2015, 09:27
I see Sylvia's putting TR-L in to full use during the Q&A. Guess she doesn't think anyone will actually check up on her statements.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on May 13, 2015, 18:36
I see Sylvia's putting TR-L in to full use during the Q&A. Guess she doesn't think anyone will actually check up on her statements.

Oh, yeah! What a bunch of baloney. I wonder if these two even know what the truth is anymore.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 13, 2015, 19:12
Looks like one Ronbot commenting in the story with David Love, none I see in the Q&A comments. narCONon's getting hammered pretty good in both.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 14, 2015, 01:42
New story up: http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/treatment/no-narconon-at-trout-run-gaining-steam/article_5c75f09a-f80b-5571-a432-93422588c80f.html
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 14, 2015, 13:35
Ronbot's are out and about in the comments and don't appear too happy about dealing with facts. Ad hominem's attacks are kicking in.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on May 15, 2015, 11:20
I would like to reply to Pickanotherid's request (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/treatment/no-narconon-at-trout-run-gaining-steam/article_5c75f09a-f80b-5571-a432-93422588c80f.html#comment-f149d244-fa8b-11e4-ab3f-17900e168daf) in the comments on the article linked above, but cannot get a reply box or window.  Will someone who can reply please post this link to "some facts, from sources with no ties to, or payments from, Scientology or narCONon on how effective narCONon is", since we know MAVRICKinc7 won't:

http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-potential-clients/narconon-information/the-narconon-program/narconon-detox-methods/

Thanks!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on May 15, 2015, 14:39
Narconon Reviews: Kudos to Citizen Action – Efforts to Keep Narconon Out of Maryland (http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/kudos-to-citizen-action-efforts-to-keep-narconon-out-of-maryland/)

Hope I got the facts right!  Let me know in the comments if I didn't.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 15, 2015, 15:52
The FNP site is a bit strange. It will let you "register", but that doesn't get you access to post. You have to "Subscribe" to at least the $7.99/mo digital edition to get posting privileges. You don't have to "auto renew", you can go "month by month" and let it lapse when no longer needed.

Link to Hambo's 29th was added to comments this morning!

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on May 15, 2015, 23:05
The FNP site is a bit strange. It will let you "register", but that doesn't get you access to post. You have to "Subscribe" to at least the $7.99/mo digital edition to get posting privileges. You don't have to "auto renew", you can go "month by month" and let it lapse when no longer needed.

Link to Hambo's 29th was added to comments this morning!

Oh, thanks for that interesting info.  And BIG THANKS to Pickanotherid for finding it here and posting it.   ;)

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Sunshine on May 15, 2015, 23:29
Why would they try to open a narconon as Group home, according to the admission standards
B. A group home may not admit an individual if the individual:
(1) Has a primary diagnosis of alcoholism, drug addition, or severe brain damage; or
(2) Shows current violent or antisocial behavior.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=10.21.04.03.htm
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 16, 2015, 09:23
Why would they try to open a narconon as Group home, according to the admission standards
B. A group home may not admit an individual if the individual:
(1) Has a primary diagnosis of alcoholism, drug addition, or severe brain damage; or
(2) Shows current violent or antisocial behavior.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=10.21.04.03.htm

Because in their minds $cientology, and it's front groups like narCONon, are above WOG law. If they get in, once the doors open they'll do whatever they want, regardless what the law says. All you have to do is look at what went on with narCONon Georgia regarding "residential/outpatient" to see that.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Sunshine on May 16, 2015, 09:48
I understand narconon does not follow the rules, but they are a alcohol and drug rehab business.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on May 16, 2015, 10:10
Yeah. Somehow, Narconon hopes to slither in under the radar with this group home thing. It seems like a bizarre strategy. Possibly, they see an opportunity to qualify for an exemption. I'm still getting familiar with the regs. So, bear with me....

Some links to Maryland substance abuse treatment licensure.
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/default.aspx
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/sitePages/Licensure.aspx

From the FAQ:

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FAQ’s for Substance Abuse Unit – Licensing
Q. What types of substance abuse programs are licensed by OHCQ?
A. All programs offering drug and alcohol treatment, care, and rehabilitation are required to be certified unless they fall into the following categories:
 A health professional licensed under the Health Occupations Article who is treating patients within the scope of the professional's practice and who does not advertise the practice as an alcohol abuse or drug abuse program;
 Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, transitional housing programs, or other similar organizations, if the organization holds meetings or provides support services to help individuals who show the effects of drug abuse or alcohol abuse;
 An employees' assistance program of a business entity; and
 A hospital as defined in Health-General Article, §19-301, Annotated Code of Maryland, accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Health Care Organizations with a separately accredited alcohol and drug abuse program.
http://dhmh.maryland.gov/ohcq/SA/docs/Substance%20Abuse%20-%20License%20FAQ.pdf
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 16, 2015, 12:38
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Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, transitional housing programs, or other similar organizations, if the organization holds meetings or provides support services to help individuals who show the effects of drug abuse or alcohol abuse;

I suspect they'll push real hard for this one, maybe even trying to use the 'Narcotics Anonymous' vs 'narCONon' confusion. They'll claim they hold meetings, and call the sauna "support services".
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on May 16, 2015, 13:23
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Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, transitional housing programs, or other similar organizations, if the organization holds meetings or provides support services to help individuals who show the effects of drug abuse or alcohol abuse;

I suspect they'll push real hard for this one, maybe even trying to use the 'Narcotics Anonymous' vs 'narCONon' confusion. They'll claim they hold meetings, and call the sauna "support services".

Or, their version of SMART Recovery. They are offering SMART recovery meetings at BDR.
http://www.smartrecovery.org/meetings_db/view/showalpha_state.php?search=M 
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 28, 2015, 12:07
Jen Fifield at the Frederick News-Post is looking for more info on the narCONon Trout Run issue. A request for help was posted over on WWP at: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/narconon-in-trout-run-maryland.125200/page-6#post-2536978

I sent her an e-mail pointing her at narCONon Reviews, and here. Suggested she register here and ask questions directily, since there's a lot of expertise on narCONon here.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on May 30, 2015, 17:17
Oh, things are getting very interesting in Maryland!

Truth about Trout Run Myths obscure Trout Run’s past - The Frederick News-Post (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/environment/natural_resource/myths-obscure-trout-run-s-past/article_4fad9e69-6a00-5a69-82c1-87989f47aa52.html)
By Sylvia Carignan
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The ramps beside the stone steps were not built for President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s wheelchair.

No president ever slept in the retreat’s stone-walled cabins.

The name “Trout Run” was not its first name and likely won’t be its last.

The 40-acre site at 12929 Catoctin Hollow Road near Thurmont has been shrouded in more fiction than fact during the past few months it’s spent in the spotlight.

more at http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/environment/natural_resource/myths-obscure-trout-run-s-past/article_4fad9e69-6a00-5a69-82c1-87989f47aa52.html
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on May 30, 2015, 18:00
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In 2013, 89-year-old Howard Haugerud, managing partner of Trout Run LLC, sold the 40-acre property to West Coast Property Investments Inc. for $4.85 million after it spent years on the market.

West Coast Property Investments Inc., identified on the deed as “a Delaware corporation,” signed the purchase contract and applied for a special exception for the property’s use, then turned the site over to Social Betterment Properties International. Social Betterment is owned by the Church of Scientology.

Sounds a lot like the way they snuck into Clearwater, FL, using front companies to buy up property, then turning it over to $cientology.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on May 30, 2015, 18:31
Frederick County Council prepares for vote on Trout Run historic designation - The Frederick News-Post
designation (http://m.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/frederick-county-council-prepares-for-vote-on-trout-run-historic/article_93d0ac89-146f-5a46-af32-c0ef717ccb4f.html?mode=jqm)
By Jen Fifield jfifield@newspost.com | Posted 3 hours ago
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Frederick County Council members say the vote they are scheduled to make Tuesday isn't about whether to allow the Church of Scientology, or its teachings, to come to Frederick County.

The vote is about whether the 40-acre Trout Run campus in the forest of the Catoctin Mountains, with its rustic lodges and cottages, is so historically significant that it should be listed on the Frederick County Register of Historic Places.

If the council votes to add the property to the register, Narconon will be able to move forward with its plan to open a substance abuse treatment center on the site, off Catoctin Hollow Road near Thurmont. This would upset many members of the community who have been clear that they do not want that to happen, given Narconon's connection to Scientology.

But the council members say that's not what this is about.

The council is set to vote on the topic at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday, but which way the decision will go, or whether the council will actually vote, is up in the air.

more at http://m.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/frederick-county-council-prepares-for-vote-on-trout-run-historic/article_93d0ac89-146f-5a46-af32-c0ef717ccb4f.html?mode=jqm
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on May 31, 2015, 00:12
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In 2013, 89-year-old Howard Haugerud, managing partner of Trout Run LLC, sold the 40-acre property to West Coast Property Investments Inc. for $4.85 million after it spent years on the market.

West Coast Property Investments Inc., identified on the deed as “a Delaware corporation,” signed the purchase contract and applied for a special exception for the property’s use, then turned the site over to Social Betterment Properties International. Social Betterment is owned by the Church of Scientology.

Sounds a lot like the way they snuck into Clearwater, FL, using front companies to buy up property, then turning it over to $cientology.
Hey, that's a name that I've seen before!

Rehabilitation centre for drug addicts proposed for Mono-Adjala Townline (http://orangeville.our-hometown.com/news/2013-08-01/Regional_News/Rehabilitation_centre_for_drug_addicts_proposed_fo.html) August 1, 2013, Orangeville Citizen
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Representatives from Meridian Planning (Meridian), Narconon International and Narconon Canada were greeted by a crowd of concerned citizens that filled the small meeting room in the Hockley Community and Seniors Hall Tuesday evening.

West Coast Property Investments Inc. is looking to acquire the property at 994091 Mono-Adjala Townline, about a mile north of Hockley village on the Adjala side of the townline. Currently listed for $2.9 million, the site would house a private drug addiction recovery centre.
West Coast Property Investments, for when SBPI isn't sneaky enough!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 08, 2015, 19:13
So much to update on this matter but for now lets just say that the citizens of Frederick County have won so far! That they are now onto what is going on and making sure this process is revisited, that mistakes made by others in the approval process are being noted and that corrections are in the process of being made.

Scientology ( via Sylvia and John Stanard out of DC Org ) is stepping up the PR moves but the community and the media are not buying it.   Listen to this 3 min Frederick News Post video of the vote - with council member comments before the vote, of the vote itself, community comments  and then Social Betterment Properties Int's attorney Bruce Dean and Yvonne Rodgers of Narconon East US are the sore losers.

Frederick County Council votes on fate of Trout Run
Published on Jun 3, 2015  - Frederick County Council votes on historic designation of Trout Run, comments from testifier, Narconon East U.S. Executive Director, and Narconon's Attorney.
https://youtu.be/meMwt0fp8wo (https://youtu.be/meMwt0fp8wo)

Do note that County Councilman Billy Shreve is the only one who voted Yea.

Here is a photo of him with a comment stating   

" I did see this guy lurking around Winchester Hall this afternoon. Police were able to identify him. It's L. Ron Shreve. "
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There have been scientologist shills involved in this and one particular one, Patricia A Worsley aka Pat Worsley aka Patti Worsley has been outed by the citizens and is currently being exposed in several ways on the internet. Here are a few cartoons describing Patti's involvement and efforts to infiltrate the school system and her past failed efforts on the vote about Trout Run location as historic for the county register of historic places.

(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11406945_10207064777362237_7171319605129154560_n.jpg?oh=b6474bcf0e6ff68a3871111b07febc7c&oe=5606EB6E)


too funny!
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I will be writing up a summary, soon. For now, do visit and read

No Narconon at Trout Run information website
https://nonarcononattroutrun.wordpress.com/ (https://nonarcononattroutrun.wordpress.com/)

No Narconon at Trout Run  (Facebook group)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/)

Media Press articles, 2011- present on the location and the Narconon/Scientology failing plan to infiltrate Maryland
https://nonarcononattroutrun.wordpress.com/press/ (https://nonarcononattroutrun.wordpress.com/press/)

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on June 08, 2015, 19:27
I've been going through about two years worth of Frederick News-Post archives, and the feeling I get about Bill Shreve is he never met a business he didn't like. He seems to consistently vote for what the people who elected him are against, and against what people are for. How he keeps getting elected beats the heck ouf of me.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 08, 2015, 20:08
I've been going through about two years worth of Frederick News-Post archives, and the feeling I get about Bill Shreve is he never met a business he didn't like. He seems to consistently vote for what the people who elected him are against, and against what people are for. How he keeps getting elected beats the heck ouf of me.

You nailed it, BigBeard!!!
Amazes me as well. I guess he's got a couple of years and then we shall see how he does in the next election
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on June 15, 2015, 11:42
From the NN@TR FB group:
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Information coming out of Mountain City, Georgia that a Trout Run Thurmont, MD reclining chair sold for over $5,000.00 including buyers premium at Golden Memories Auction.

more... Family's Choice Antiques, Route 15 North now has furniture items from Trout Run that folks might be interested in seeing what some of the contents look like.

Always looking to make a buck.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 21, 2015, 09:47
Excellent Letter to the Editor from State Delegate Karen Lewis Young, ending with: 

" Nevertheless, given that Narconon has no evidence of independent endorsements of their program, and the state of Georgia has recently banned their facilities, many of us will be watching very closely to ensure that an application submitted by their organization meets the strictest definition of the law."

Read on

Watching Narconon closely

Frederick News Post Posted: Sunday, June 21, 2015
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/letter_to_editor/watching-narconon-closely/article_7b168037-8669-5309-a0bf-40409b00bbb3.htm (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/letter_to_editor/watching-narconon-closely/article_7b168037-8669-5309-a0bf-40409b00bbb3.htm)l
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on July 02, 2015, 20:50
The Frederick County Council's Ruling on Trout Run's Historic Designation for the proposed Scientology drug rehab has been appealed as of 7/1/2015

To find the case use the following link and search on company name = SOCIAL BETTERMENT, county = Frederick

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch//inquiry-index.jsp

Screengrabs for posterity sake below.

(http://i.imgur.com/ejliwS7.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/euzGgVb.png)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 02, 2015, 21:18
Gee, looks they are essentially claiming that someone didn't do their duty or something occurred that interfered with the duty to perform.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Juicer77 on July 03, 2015, 14:27
Nice timing -  filing right before the holiday weekend so it would get overlooked.  ::) Like this group would miss it!  Great job keeping up on this stuff.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 03, 2015, 14:36
 L-O-:
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on July 04, 2015, 10:00
Next they'll be claiming that the property is historical due to the hard fought battle to jam a Narconon in there.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on July 07, 2015, 23:05
Scientologists Appealing Rejection Of Drug Rehab Center Plan - CBS Baltimore (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/07/07/scientologists-appealing-rejection-of-drug-rehab-center-plan/)
July 7, 2015 7:05 AM

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FREDERICK, Md. (AP) — Lawyers for a Scientology-affiliated drug rehab facility are appealing a Frederick County Council vote that rejected a plan to turn a former presidential fishing spot into a Narconon drug rehabilitation center.

A request for judicial review was filed in Frederick County Circuit court on Wednesday, though the short filing did not specify reasons for the appeal.

Bruce Dean, an attorney for the project, says it was premature to describe the grounds for the appeal.
more at http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/07/07/scientologists-appealing-rejection-of-drug-rehab-center-plan/
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: AnonLover on October 26, 2015, 07:19
Scientology cries religious discrimination in appeal brief filed in Maryland zoning fight
Monday, October 26, 2015 7:00 AM
http://tonyortega.org/2015/10/26/scientology-cries-religious-discrimination-in-appeal-brief-filed-in-maryland-zoning-fight/
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: wynot on October 26, 2015, 14:39
But - I thought Narconon had nothing to do with $cientology! Isn't that what they claim whenever they are sued for the harms done by Narconon? Or when anyone points out that there is no real difference between the required behaviours of each?

Yeah, right!

'til next time;
wynot
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on October 26, 2015, 17:36
Scientology cries religious discrimination in appeal brief filed in Maryland zoning fight
Monday, October 26, 2015 7:00 AM
http://tonyortega.org/2015/10/26/scientology-cries-religious-discrimination-in-appeal-brief-filed-in-maryland-zoning-fight/

I think most of us were fully expecting this move.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on October 26, 2015, 18:33
I think adding the "religious discrimination" card to their deck is the primary reason SBPI got it's status changed from "Tax Exempt - Other" to "Tax Exempt - Religious" back in 2009. Also to hide the money flows, they never filed another 990 after 2008. Which is extremely frustrating to the money flow charting I've been working on. I've found "grants" going to SBPI, but it's like the money fell into a black hole from there.
Title: Bunker post and update: Here’s the local county’s response
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 27, 2015, 17:23
The bunker reports on Trout Run. Mathias did a very good job here, leaving all the rhetoric, accusations and poorly written Memorandum of Law filed by Social Betterment Properties in support of it's appeal, for the Court to respond to. Can't wait for the January hearing and written decision by the Court.

Scientology wants to force a drug rehab center on Maryland: Here’s the local county’s response
http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/27/scientology-wants-to-force-a-drug-rehab-center-on-maryland-heres-the-local-countys-response/ (http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/27/scientology-wants-to-force-a-drug-rehab-center-on-maryland-heres-the-local-countys-response/)

Frederick County Response
https://www.scribd.com/doc/291254426/Frederick-County-Response?secret_password=VJsgd1z7A6esdu5aDmR9

Best comment at the Bunker regarding Frederick County Council attorney response in Social Betterment appeal case posted today!

Your Coccyx • 9 hours ago

LOL that response is wonderful. In short:
--You told us about Narconon initially, and it still had nothing to do with our decision, you idiots
--Most of the buildings aren't "historic"; built in the 1970s isn't "historic", you idiots
--Even if they were, the council isn't required in any way to designate them as historic for your benefit, hence the word "may" in the statute, you idiots
--Even your idiot "expert" couldn't confirm Hoover was ever there, you idiots
--Even your idiot "expert" admitted other camps in the area were more "historic" than this piece of crap, you idiots
--How can you "pass history on to the public and future generations" at a private site, you idiots

...And that's why the court should dismiss this stupid case,
XOXO, The Council
(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2855/2524/original.gif)
http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/27/scientology-wants-to-force-a-drug-rehab-center-on-maryland-heres-the-local-countys-response/#comment-2381073938 (http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/27/scientology-wants-to-force-a-drug-rehab-center-on-maryland-heres-the-local-countys-response/#comment-2381073938)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on November 27, 2015, 19:46
I really like the way the response is written in plain, everyday, English you don't have to be a lawyer to understand. The part about a "Historic Designation" hearing operating under completely different rules than a "Zoning" hearing was best.

Especially where it essentially tells DM to 'word clear' the difference between "May" and "Must". :-D^\^\
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 27, 2015, 20:13
I really like the way the response is written in plain, everyday, English you don't have to be a lawyer to understand. The part about a "Historic Designation" hearing operating under completely different rules than a "Zoning" hearing was best.

Especially where it essentially tells DM to 'word clear' the difference between "May" and "Must". :-D^\^\

Haha!! I agree!
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 27, 2015, 20:21
Yes, it's quite funny to see the county's response, especially after one reads the absurd and ill written Memorandum Social Betterment Properties International filed that the County is responding to!

For reference, here is the story Tony wrote and included the original Social Betterment Properties appeal document the County Council attorney was responding to, Titled:
"Scientology cries religious discrimination in appeal brief filed in Maryland zoning fight"
http://tonyortega.org/2015/10/26/scientology-cries-religious-discrimination-in-appeal-brief-filed-in-maryland-zoning-fight/

Memorandum of Law docs filed by SBPI
"Trout Run: Petition for Judicial Review Part 1"
( SBPI Rant: Discrimination being one of the numerous claims being made )  https://www.scribd.com/doc/287021443/Trout-Run-Petition-for-Judicial-Review-Part-1?secret_password=mjoV2djGMmwL8L1GgeTs

Trout Run: Petition for Judicial Review, Part 2
( Copy of the Frederick County Historic Preservation being referenced to  in Part 1)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/287023714/Trout-Run-Petition-for-Judicial-Review-Part-2?secret_password=hesy94P0s3WIS3ysjIYG
Title: Latest filing in the Trout Run Appeal Case- #Narconon is #Scientology
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 14, 2015, 22:30
 c||o: Social Betterment Properties International trying desperate to win it's pathetic appeal Trout Run by filing a bunch of whining baloney (and also trying to kick Interested Parties from the case for stupid non-applicable reasons for fear the judge will allow them to speak up at the Jan 4th hearing )

Here is the latest on this case, as reported on by Tony Ortega

Scientology’s latest filing in the Trout Run zoning fight: We bleed for all religions

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Scientology has made another filing in the Trout Run legal spat over the prospect of opening a boutique VIP Narconon rehab center in Maryland. After the county gave its reasons for saying no, Scientology comes back with bawling you have to see.
http://tonyortega.org/2015/12/13/scientologys-latest-filing-in-the-trout-run-zoning-fight-we-bleed-for-all-religions/

Trout Run Petitioner's Reply doc
 "Published by Tony Ortega - Scientology's reply after the county opposed its petition for judicial review regarding the Trout Run zoning vote" http://www.scribd.com/doc/293140980/Trout-Run-Petitioner-s-Reply
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 05, 2016, 22:48
I and a group of No Narconon Trout Run Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/
members went to the court hearing yesterday, held on Social Betterment's appeal of the Frederick County MD Council's veto against Social Betterment Properties' attempt to get a land use exception by applying for a place on the historic registry - despite the property not being historic. Their appeal claims the reason why the council vetoed it was due to discrimination against Scientology religion. Bunch of baloney.

It was a lot of fun and the judge could not have been better choice.  We were not allowed to have cell phones on or record the hearing and note taking was difficult since most of us were a party to the case, so Tony Ortega did a short article here which he updated later on after we spoke b phone. See second link below. 

Further down are links to some local and state media reports on the court hearing.

Scientology’s appeal on rehab zoning fight in Maryland to be heard today
By Tony Ortega @ the Underground Bunker - Jan 4, 2015
"We’re hoping to get a report today from some correspondents on the scene when Scientology’s administrative appeal in Frederick County, Maryland is argued in a court of law."
http://tonyortega.org/2016/01/04/monday/

Update From Tony Ortega and Mary McConnell:
http://tonyortega.org/2016/01/04/monday/#more-27734

[..] UPDATE: We just had a telephone conversation with Mary McConnell, who gave us some basics on how the hearing went today.

First, the news. Judge Nicklas did hear oral arguments from the two sides today, and gave himself 30 days to render a decision. Mary said she found the hearing to be a lot of fun as Judge Nicklas proved to be knowledgeable about the subject areas in general (including drug rehab) and in the case facts in particular.

Mary said that SBPI’s attorneys (SBPI is a subsidiary of the Church of Scientology) tried to convince the judge that this was really a zoning case, but he wasn’t having it.

“They kept trying to make this a zoning case, but he was on their game and said he knew it wasn’t a zoning matter,” Mary says.

The dispute is really about whether the Frederick County Council acted properly when it voted not to put Trout Run on its list of historic places, even after its own Historic Preservation Commission recommended that it be added.

SBPI tried to convince Judge Nicklas that the council had always, in the past, simply accepted the recommendation of the commission. This was the first time it did not put a place on the historic list after the Commission recommended it. SBPI seemed to imply that the council had an obligation to follow the commission’s suggestion.

But Mary says Judge Nicklas resisted that argument. “He’s not falling for that,” she told us. “He pointed out that they may follow the recommendation. They argued over the word ‘may’.”

The other side, meanwhile, tried to keep things focused and simple. “The county’s attorney was clear: This is a legislative issue, not a zoning one,” Mary said.

We asked Mary how the judge reacted when SBPI’s attorney brought up the notion that the Church of Scientology had been discriminated against.

“He totally ignored it,” she said. And perhaps also telling, when SBPI brought up what had been said in public meetings to the council about Scientology invading the county and being a ‘cult,’ the judge pointed out more than once that the people who had made those statements were respected members of the community. Oops. [..]
More at http://tonyortega.org/2016/01/04/monday/#more-27734

Other media reports

Judge hears dispute over historic designation that would have allowed Narconon center
Frederick News Post By Danielle E. Gaines dgaines@newspost.com Jan 4, 2016
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/courts/judge-hears-dispute-over-historic-designation-that-would-have-allowed/article_2d463bc7-5ba3-5c51-a400-a6f52581d01a.html (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/courts/judge-hears-dispute-over-historic-designation-that-would-have-allowed/article_2d463bc7-5ba3-5c51-a400-a6f52581d01a.html)

Among what the ^^^ article discusses is this interesting back and forth:

[..]Testimony at the public hearings relating to the designation was also debated Monday.

Kneeland ( Social Betterment Attorney ) said the council’s final vote was an attempt to appease the “whims and fears” of the community. She read statements — from letters sent to the council and the public hearings — about the Church of Scientology and Narconon that she felt were derogatory.

“Those reasons to motivate a decision are improper. An agency is not allowed to discriminate on the basis of religion,” she told Nicklas.

Kearney (County Attorney ) said it should be expected that those testifying at a council meeting without an attorney may introduce irrelevant ideas in their testimony, just as happens in court, she said. That doesn’t discredit the council’s analysis of the property’s historic significance, she said.

Kearney said Social Betterment put its own plans at risk when the organization bought property not already zoned to allow a Narconon center to open.

“They took on a project that didn’t have a good prognosis,” she said at Monday’s hearing.[..]


Don't we know that! One would think that they would learn from their mistakes...

In the NBC article below, they provide an un-linkable video, which gives more details and is much more balanced. Watch Scientology's OSA, National Affairs Office Sylvia and John Stanard walk away with theyr attorneys, without giving comment The guy at the end being interviewed is my friend Mark Long who along with myself and others are Interested Parties who SBPI wants to boot from the case. Judge didn't take oral arguments or rule on those Motions but allowed us sit up in front on the county attorney side as parties to the case.

Frederick Co., Scientology-Backed Group at Odds

By Mark Seagraves, NBC Washington
The Church of Scientology is taking the Frederick County Council to court over plans to build a drug rehab facility. On News4 at 6, Mark Segraves reports lawyers for the church say fears about Scientology influenced the council. http://nbc4dc.com/MeLyzSZ (http://nbc4dc.com/MeLyzSZ)

Here are a few of us No Narconon Trout Run members who arrived early at the court house. We all left smiling, as well

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/12464021_906090019505838_2072302138_n.jpg?oh=97c80decf450b8d33bbfad552cded7ed&oe=568F8F65)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on January 05, 2016, 23:09
Thanks for the update Mary. Nice to see the Judge staying on focus, and not falling into the "zoning" fallicy $cientology was trying to make the case into.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 12, 2016, 07:19
Thanks, BigBeard..  But I failed to post subsequent updates here. Just so much going on and so little free time on my part...  Here they are: 

Update: January 13th,  posted an update at the No Narconon At Trout Run Facebook group the following
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/permalink/654970774645756/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/permalink/654970774645756/)
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January 13, 2016

Case update: Case remanded back to County Council!!! But it was then reopened! WTHeck...

Doc No./Seq No.: 19/0 File Date: 01/13/2016 Entered Date:01/13/2016 Decision:
Document Name: Reopen Case
Doc No./Seq No.: 18/0 File Date: 01/13/2016 Entered Date:01/13/2016 Decision: Document Name: Opinion and Order of the Court  Ordered, that the above captioned be remanded to the Frederick County Council for issurance of a final decision including findings of fact and conclusions of law.update: Here is the Opinion doc https://www.facebook.com/download/1207445389270456/Court-remand-to-Council-1-13-16.pdf (https://www.facebook.com/download/1207445389270456/Court-remand-to-Council-1-13-16.pdf)

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Kimberly Mellon
February 11

Excerpt: The Frederick County Planning Commission recommended Wednesday that the County Council approve a zoning change that would prevent drug recovery programs from operating on historic properties.

The recommendation comes in the wake of last year's fight over whether an affiliate of the Church of Scientology — Narconon — could use an old recreation camp in the Catoctin Mountains called Trout Run for a drug treatment center.

The commission voted unanimously in favor of a County Council bill to remove group homes from the list of special-exception uses allowed on sites on the county's Register of Historic Places. The council has scheduled a third reading and likely will vote on the bill Feb. 16, but it may not settle what happens to Trout Run, and Narconon's plan for it.
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/levels_of_government/county/group-homes-should-not-be-allowed-on-historic-properties-planning/article_4902fc54-e8f2-5429-be63-e808042eed97.html


Feb 15, 2016

Heidi Macavoy posted

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Tomorrow's County Council Agenda shows a "third reading" of bill 16-02 for the proposed special exemption changes. It also notes "council decision" and I'm wondering if that means there will be a vote on it?
Well, the bill is postponed by consensus until next legislative day (45 days away) in order for the board to receive and consider other proposed amendments which Councilman Donald's is planning on submitting to the council which are apparently integral in some way to the bill and complex in nature. Anyone know what this is about?

Mary McConnell reply on · February 17 at 6:35am

Well, the bill is postponed by consensus until next legislative day (45 days away) in order for the board to receive and consider other proposed amendments which Councilman Donald's is planning on submitting to the council which are apparently integral in some way to the bill and complex in nature. Anyone know what this is about?

That is bill is still pending.

Feb 26th

Meantime, here is what happened next. We thought the county council would file a response to the judge's court order remanding it back to the Council, but they didn't. Instead, Social Betterment's attorneys filed to terminate their appearance in the case, then the county attorneys followed suit. The case was officially unrepresented on Feb 26th, 2016. Not sure if it can still be reopened but

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Court System:   Circuit Court for Frederick County - Civil System
Case Number:   10C15001859
Title:   In the Matter of Social Betterment Properties International
Case Type:   Administrative Agency Appeal Filing Date:07/01/2015
Case Status:   Closed/Inactive
Case Disposition:   Decree or Order Disposition Date:01/13/2016
 
Attorney(s) for the Plaintiff/Petitioner
Name:   Dean, Bruce N
Appearance Date:   07/01/2015
Removal Date:   02/26/2016
Practice Name:   
Address:   Linowes & Blocher LLP    8 West Third Street
City:   FrederickState:MDZip Code:21701

Name:   Kneeland, Esq, Jennifer L
Appearance Date:   07/01/2015
Removal Date:   02/26/2016
Practice Name:   Linowes & Blocher, LLP  Address: 7200 Wisconsin Ave Suite 800
City:   Bethesda State:MD Zip Code:20814

Related Persons Information
(Each Related person is displayed below)
Party Type:   Administrative AgencyParty No.:1
Business or Organization Name:   The Frederick County Council
Address:   12 East Church Street
City:   Frederick State:MD Zip Code:21701

Attorney(s) for the Related Persons

Name:   Chomel, Michael J
Practice Name:   County Attorney's Office
Address:   Winchester Hall
   12 East Church Street
City:   Frederick State:MD Zip Code:21701

Name:   Mathias, Esq, John St
Practice Name:   
Address:   Winchester Hall
   12 E Church St.
City:   Frederick State:MD Zip Code:21701 [..]


Doc No./Seq No.:   21/0
File Date:   02/26/2016 Entered Date:02/26/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Petitioner Party No.:1
Document  Name:   Attorney Appearance Terminated

   Bruce N Dean

Doc No./Seq No.:   22/0
File Date:   02/26/2016 Entered Date:02/26/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Petitioner Party No.:1
Document Name:   Attorney Appearance Terminated
   Jennifer L Kneeland


Doc No./Seq No.:   23/0
File Date:   02/26/2016 Entered Date:02/26/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Administrative Agency Party No.:1
Document Name:   Attorney Appearance Terminated
   Michael J Chomel


Doc No./Seq No.:   24/0
File Date:   02/26/2016 Entered Date:02/26/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Administrative AgencyParty No.:1
Document Name:   Attorney Appearance Terminated
   John S Mathias

March 11
 
Of course, I could not find anything to explain this but figured something it might have to do with the pending bill that was tabled for 45 day review by council. I figured that some news would pop up soon so I kept checking the court records and docket. Today I saw that a new case was filed by Social Betterment Properties International... Here is what I found and posted about over at No Narconon At Trout Run

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UPDATE:
#‎Narconon‬ ‪#‎Scientology‬ ‪#‎NoNarcononTroutRun‬ Narconon fights back, again. Desperate measures for a desperate group

The fight is back on! Social Betterment files Complaint for Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Request for Expedited Relief with Exhibits against Frederick County + 3 agencies

Case # 10C16000716
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/ (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/)

Case Information
Court System:   Circuit Court for Frederick County - Civil System
Case Number:   10C16000716

Title:   Social Betterment Properties International vs Frederick County Maryland, et al
Case Type:   Other Civil  Filing Date:03/09/2016
Case Status:   Open/Active
   
Plaintiff/Petitioner Information
(Each Plaintiff/Petitioner is displayed below)
Party Type:   Plaintiff Party No.:1
Business or Organization Name:   Social Betterment Properties International

Address:   C/O Linowes And Blocher LLP
City:   Bethesda State:MD Zip Code:20814

Attorney(s) for the Plaintiff/Petitioner
Name:   Kneeland, Esq, Jennifer L

Appearance Date:   03/09/2016
Practice Name:   Linowes & Blocher, LLP
Address:   7200 Wisconsin Ave    Suite 800
City:   Bethesda State:MD Zip Code:20814

Defendant/Respondent Information
(Each Defendant/Respondent is displayed below)
Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:1
Business or Organization Name:   Frederick County Maryland
Address:   Winchester Hall
City:   FrederickState:MDZip Code:21701

Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:2
Business or Organization Name:   Frederick County Department Of Planning And Development Review
Address:   Winchester Hall
City:   Frederick State:MD Zip Code:21701

Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:3
Business or Organization Name:   Frederick County Zoning Administration
Address:   Winchester Hall
City:   Frederick State:MD Zip Code:21701

Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:4
Business or Organization Name:   Frederick County Planning And Permitting Division
Address:   Winchester Hall
City:   FrederickState:MDZip Code:21701

Document Tracking
(Each Document listed. Documents are listed in Document No./Sequence No. order)
Doc No./Seq No.:   1/0
File Date:   03/09/2016 Entered Date:03/11/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Plaintiff Party No.:1

Document Name:   Complaint for Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Request for Expedited    Relief with Exhibits

Doc No./Seq No.:   2/0
File Date:   03/09/2016 Entered Date:03/11/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:1
Document Name:   Writ of Summons - Civil Issued
   
Doc No./Seq No.:   3/0
File Date:   03/09/2016 Entered Date:03/11/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:2
Document Name:   Writ of Summons - Civil Issued
   
Doc No./Seq No.:   4/0
File Date:   03/09/2016 Entered Date:03/11/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:3
Document Name:   Writ of Summons - Civil Issued
   
Doc No./Seq No.:   5/0
File Date:   03/09/2016 Entered Date:03/11/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Defendant Party No.:4
Document Name:   Writ of Summons - Civil Issued

Hope to have more updates soon...
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on March 12, 2016, 14:21
If they're hoping for a new law change to fix an old application rather than doing the paperwork the court requested, I think they'll regret it. There will be another lawsuit, and they might end up with Narconon grandfathered in.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 12, 2016, 15:11
If they're hoping for a new law change to fix an old application rather than doing the paperwork the court requested, I think they'll regret it. There will be another lawsuit, and they might end up with Narconon grandfathered in.

There would be no grandfathering issue here...

The county council are in the works to get the law changed to remove group homes from that HPC law so that in the event groups with HPC applications like Social Betterment won't ever be able to apply in a resource conservation zoned land.  But if Social Betterment Properties lost in the court review/appeal, they would have to wait 2 years to apply again, so they would not be able to apply anyway if that law it in place.  If they won their case on the review/appeal, then the law would not apply to them.  However, right now the bill for that change in law is being held for 45 days pending other zoning change issues being discussed. Councilman Donald was not clear about what those changes are but the council seemed to know and they all agreed to set aside the bill for 45 days pending. Meantime, all this with the Trout Run / SBPI court remand was still pending. Then on the 26th of Feb the attorneys for both sides terminated. The cases in inactive/closed status and can be brought back which is why it was weird to see a new case filed instead of reopening the old one.

What I suspect this new civil action is about is that some sort of agreement was made between SBPI and the County Council attorneys and part of that was to have SBPI close of the appeal case by terminating as council. The county attorneys followed on the same day and terminated as well - as I mentioned.

Perhaps what happened was that that deal or whatever agreement they made on the review appeal case fell through or SBPI did not anticipate something which latter happened. However, I would think they would file in the original case,m not a new one. So  I suspect that this new case must be about something new, separate ( possibly related but not directly) from the appeal review case.

Thus I am inclined to think that SBPI filed for   " Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Request for Expedited Relief with Exhibits" against Frederick County and the 3 zoning and planning 3 agencies because of some deviation of whatever agreement they had with the county concerning the original case or relief to get the original case defaulted in their favor.  I am hoping to see the documents soon. Then we can know more.

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: DeathHamster on March 22, 2016, 09:20
http://tonyortega.org/2016/03/22/trial-set-in-new-york-on-april-7-over-narconon-drug-rehab-hiding-connection-to-scientology/#comment-2582982878
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downtherabbithole • 26 minutes ago

What ever became of the Trout Run site? If no resolution yet, does anyone know when it is expected?

    Tony Ortega Mod downtherabbithole • 24 minutes ago

    Scientology filed a new lawsuit. The court has been extremely backwards about giving out copies of it. Hoping to have it soon.
Probably premature to say I told ya so. :)
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Juicer77 on March 22, 2016, 10:48
Oh, boy! More footbullets... *waits eagerly* >:D
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: ethercat on March 26, 2016, 20:37
I guess this must be it, right?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/305914005/SBPI-v-Frederick-County-Complaint-for-injunctive-relief
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 10, 2017, 23:10
I guess this must be it, right?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/305914005/SBPI-v-Frederick-County-Complaint-for-injunctive-relief

Yes it is, ethercat.  However that "Complaint for Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Request for Expedited Relief" was amended* See FYI for where a copy can be seen, if logged into Facebook

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Doc No./Seq No.:   6/0
File Date:   03/22/2016 Entered Date: 03/23/2016 Decision:
Party Type:   Plaintiff Party No.:1
Document Name:   First Amended Complaint for Injunctive and Declaratory Relief and Request for Expedited Review


I just realized that this thread had not been updated in some time, so I will post some info and links. 

But to respond to your comment, that case has since been closed. The broad list of accusations by Social Betterment against the County and departments sued ended with a much lower number of documents being required to be turned over. Here is the court docket reflecting the judge's orders on this case:

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Case Information
Court System:   Circuit Court for Frederick County - Civil System
Case Number:   10C16000716
Title:   Social Betterment Properties International vs Frederick County Maryland, et al
Case Type:   Other Civil Filing Date:03/09/2016
Case Status:   Closed/Active
Case Disposition:   Decree or Order   Disposition Date:09/26/2016


Doc No./Seq No.:   21/0
File Date:   09/26/2016 Entered Date: 09/26/2016   Decision:
Document Name:   Opinion and Order of the Court
   ORDERED, that the Plaintiff's motion for summary judgment be granted in part and that the documents stated as not privileged in this opinion be produced to the Plaintiff by the Defendant within 10 days; ORDERED, that the Plaintiff's motion for summary judgment be denied in part and that the Plaintiff is not entitled to damages as stated in this opinion.

During this same time period, Social Betterment Properties International tried to file a new and separate Petition for Administrative Review of the County Council's veto of their application for historic designation but the court made them go back and reopen the original case that was opened on July 1, 2015, and closed Feb 26, 2016. 

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Court System:   Circuit Court for Frederick County - Civil System
Case Number:   10C15001859
Title:   In the Matter of Social Betterment Properties International
Case Type:   Administrative Agency Appeal    Filing Date:07/01/2015
Case Status:   Reopened/Active

After a series of bungling moves and filings on the part of Social Betterment Properties to the court on this new request to reopen the above case, including sending to the court and all parties, including myself and other interested  parties on the case, CDs with many many non-relevant copies of email exchanges and documents. They did this making it appear to the clerk that the records and cds were from the County, not SBPI.   

Eventually everything got sorted out and Social Betterment Properties finally sent in a new petition and an 
their 
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Petitioner's Emergency Motion to Extend Time for Filing Memorandum in Support of Petition for Appeal
  which was OK'd with a court order on Aug 2, 2016. The docket  shows the court order

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C/O filed that the time for Petitioner, Social Betterment, to file its memorandum in support of its Petition for Judicial Review, is extended through and including September 29, 2016.


Since then,  with mutual approval by the County attorneys, Social Betterment Properties has since  filed multiple requests for extension of time to file the required, the last being in January 2017. That extension ends on February 17th of this year. 

Since January, 2 of the 3 attorneys for Social Betterment have gone to another law firm. This left attorney Bruce Dean alone until 3 new attorneys from his company's Bethesda firm were admitted as co-council January 27th 2017.

Hopefully they will figure out  the legal basis for their trying to appeal this case and produce a Memorandum in Support of Petition for Judicial Review  by the latest deadline, Feb 17th

However, I suspect we will probably see more mutually agreed motion for extension of time to file this thing

All of this is based upon the following:

SBPI's complaints in the past are that the Council based their decision to veto the application for historic designation on the Scientology connection. They claimed that they could prove that bu having access to all the all the emails and inter council correspondence which the council claimed were 'attorney-client privileged'. The case linked above was their lawsuit to get access to all that had been listed as such, but in the end, the judge on that case only ruled in favor of some, not all of the documents,  and did not give the damages $$$ that SBPI asked for. My impression on that is that there were only a small amount items on that list that were ordered turned over and that the county attorneys were not deeded to have intentionally withheld anything.

So the new legal team for the Scientology front group Social Betterment Properties International has to get it together and present this Memorandum supporting its argument. Frankly, I don't think they have a case and this is why they have not been successful in finding any law to support their Petition.

I don't think the court is going to let this drag on much longer. Once it is filed, all parties will then have 30 days to respond. Our dedicated interested parties are looking forward to reading the justifications SBPI comes up with, and will be responding to them in support of the Council's veto. 

I promise to update this thread.   

FYI: Updates have been being posted fairly regularly to the private Facebook group set up by the local citizens, called No Narconon at Trout Run. One can read posts, comments https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/)

Many *documents can be located in the files section at this link https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoNarcononTroutRun/files/

*I believe one needs to logged into Facebook to access the files.

Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on February 11, 2017, 07:10
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*I believe one needs to logged into Facebook to access the files.

Aaaaaargh! Why does everything have to tie to Farcebook??
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 11, 2017, 16:21
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*I believe one needs to logged into Facebook to access the files.

Aaaaaargh! Why does everything have to tie to Farcebook??

Sorry BigBeard... but that group is where the documents would be most read and posted by multiple people involved in the case. They have over 360 members in that group. The direct pdf links will only be accessible to facebookers because they are posted in a members only group. Its a real hassle for me to download them to my computer and upload them to my scribd. I'm a moderator there so PM me if you or someone near you,  have a FB profile and would want to join the group for a day to access and read them,  I would approve the person to join.

Mary
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: BigBeard on February 11, 2017, 20:44
Thanks Mary, but for a number of reasons I don't use Face Book or Twitter.
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on July 01, 2017, 16:30
I guess most of you have seen this from the Thursday Funnies on Mike Rinder's Blog.
(http://i0.wp.com/www.mikerindersblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/download.jpg)

 ooo:/

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-132/
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 06, 2017, 21:49
I'm thinking that they may be networking with the State of Maryland while awaiting their appeal petition in court ( which they are dragging on with multiple extensions, mutually stipulated by with the county) in order to squeeze in a small educational program, thereby avoiding having to obtain a license. But that's just a thought because what Narconon organization would have the audacity to advertise like this, knowing there are critics keeping an eye out for such stuff?

I'm making sure the county and state are aware of this latest promo piece. Thanks for posting it here, mefree
Title: Re: Narconon Trout Run in Maryland ( marketed as in DC but no where near DC)
Post by: mefree on July 07, 2017, 18:16
I'm thinking that they may be networking with the State of Maryland while awaiting their appeal petition in court ( which they are dragging on with multiple extensions, mutually stipulated by with the county) in order to squeeze in a small educational program, thereby avoiding having to obtain a license. But that's just a thought because what Narconon organization would have the audacity to advertise like this, knowing there are critics keeping an eye out for such stuff?

I'm making sure the county and state are aware of this latest promo piece. Thanks for posting it here, mefree

Thanks, Mary. I was hoping they weren't trying to go the sober living route.