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Offline Sunshine

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Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« on: March 27, 2012, 15:39 »
Did Narconon Fresh Start lie to the BBB?

There are 21 complaints listed with the BBB several contain the clients name; please delete the names if you are going to post information that contain the clients personal information. 

From BBB’s site http://www.la.bbb.org/business-reviews/Drug-and-Alcohol-Abuse-Treatment-Centers/Narconon-Fresh-Start-in-Glendale-CA-13106049

Bolding is mine.

BBB found business made good faith effort to resolve complaint but customer not satisfied with business response (12)

02/02/2011    Problems with Product/Service View Details
Additional Notes

Complaint:
5.False Advertising/Led me to believe they had licensed medical staff on sight. 6.Deceptive internet marketing/Failed to disclose full treatment methodology and gave misleading information in regard to medical staff.

Narconon Response:
5. Many of our students, after themselves becoming drug free, become members of our staff. Who better to handle recovering addicts at Narconon than those who have successfully completed the program themselves and who are now drug free? Our staff members are trained in the aspects of rehab for which they will be responsible. Many of our staff members hold Registered Addiction Specialist certification. This certification requires two years working directly with addicts and successfully passing tests on written materials. We are 5 minutes from hospitals should an emergency arise.

From http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,8697.0.html

The following   deficiencies    were noted:



1)   Title  9, Section   10564(c)   Personnel   Requirements   Class  B

The above section states, in part,  "In addition to the requirements  of (b) of this regulation, program  staff who provide  counseling  services  (as defined in Section  13005) shall be licensed, certified, or registered to obtain certification  pursuant  to Chapter  8 (commencing  with Section  13000)."

The licensee was deficient in meeting this regulation because current licensure, certification or registration for certification was not located for the counseling staff members #2, #4 and #9 & #10. Proof of counselor registration was received by the Department for employee #10 (only) on 9/19/11.




We are 5 minutes from hospitals should an emergency arise.

From Narconons Major Use Permit (P01-020) document presented to the San Diego County Board of Supervisors.
SUBJECT: NARCONON, APPEAL OF MAJOR USE PERMIT (P01-O20) FOR A DRUG
AND ALCOHOL REHABILITATION FACILITY IN THE NORTH
MOUNTAIN SUBREGIONAL PLANNING AREA (District: 5)

Narconon staff includes a medical officer with CPR, first aid and other medical training. The
Sunshine Volunteer Fire Department staff is trained in “first response" techniques to take care of
a situation until emergency medical technicians (EMTs) arrive. The California Department of
Forestry office, located in Oak Grove, approximately a five-minute response time from the north,
includes one certified EMT on staff. The Warner Springs Fire Department, located 8 miles to the
south, also with a five-minute response time, has five employees certified as EMTs. The Warner
Springs and Sunshine Fire Departments act cooperatively in the area, responding to fire and
medical emergencies, in addition and if necessary, air response can be requested from Mercy
Air, which would be able to reach the Sunshine Summit area in approximately 20 minutes.
There are three Mercy Air Helicopters in the Warner Springs area.

As you can see it is the local volunteer fire department that will be the one to respond and if it’s a life or death situation it would take Mercy Air 20 minutes to arrive, far cry from a hospital 5 minutes away.

Comment from Narconon to American Express responding to clients request that American Express refuse to pay Narconon; document is in PDF so I typed it. (Note this is the same case above where they tell the BBB the hospitals are 5 minutes away.)
 
Paramedics are ¼ mile down the road, there is no need for a doctor or nurse onsite
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BBB found business made good faith effort to resolve complaint but customer not satisfied with business response (12)

07/14/2011    Problems with Product/Service View Details


Business response: (Capital letters summarize the complaint. Small letters summarize Narconon’s response.) DETOXED OVER 10 DAYS, SENT TO WARNER SPRINGS Detox is the first step of the Narconon program. A student is detoxed on an individual basis. If this student took 10 days in detox, it is because that is what he needed. The length of time in Detox depends on several key factors, including the type of drug(s) or alcohol consumed and length of time of dependency. DIRTY, OVER CROWEDED, BASED ON SCIENTOLOGY Narconon facilities are routinely inspected by the State of California and pass inspection.

Yes and they fail:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,8697.0.html   
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Next are statements that Narconon Fresh Start made that I find interesting:

Complaint resolved with BBB assistance (9)
10/15/2010    Advertising/Sales Issues View Details

Business response:Narconon Lonestar Victory Ranch is the facility this student would attend. It is part of the Narconon network, but the Narconon name would not necessarily be mentioned because each facility is independent. The pros and cons of Lonestar are different than those of other Narconon facilities. Scientology is not concerned with drug rehab and is not relevant to a recovering addict.

INSURANCE WOULD PAY. LIE. It is Narconon policy to, as a courtesy to the client only, bill his insurance company. This is a courtesy service and Narconon does not and cannot promise an insurance company will pay, since payment depends on insurance company policy and type of coverage, which are not predictable student to student. We make every effort to get an insurance payment for a student.
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The Narconon program is not based on time. Some students take 3 months to complete the whole program, some take as much as a year.

The flat fee covers the entire program without consideration as to time. Some people complete in 2 months, others take almost a year. There is no added charge for length of time on the program

If the program is not based on time, when/if they provide a refund why is it based on how long the client has been in the program?
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It appears as mentioned above Narconon Fresh Start in their response identified their clients, in California I believe that is a violation of California Code of Regulations 10568 (c) and 10569 (a)

c) All information and records obtained from or regarding residents shall be confidential and maintained in conformity with Title 42, Subchapter A, Part 2 Sections 2.1 through 2.67-1, Code of Federal Regulations, hereby incorporated by reference into these regulations.

(a) Each resident shall have personal rights which include, but are not limited to, the following:The right to confidentiality as provided for in Title 42, Subchapter A, Part 2 Sections 2.1 through 2.67-1, Code of Federal Regulations.

42 CFR - Code of Federal Regulations - Title 42: Public Health
http://cfr.vlex.com/vid/2-statutory-confidentiality-patient-19797521

In fact, when Narconon was in Newport Beach they threaten to sue Dr. Linda Orozco for violating the above laws.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Stop-Narconon/Newport-Beach/

Law Offices of
DANIEL C. CARLT0N
2600 Michelson Drive, Suite 1120
Irvine, California 92612

Telephone (949) 767-0707
Facsimile (949) 752-2141

August 24, 2004

HAND DELIVERED

LINDA OROZCO
1805 West Balboa Boulevard, Unit B
Newport Beach, California 92663

Re:  Our Client: Narconon Southern California
        1810 West Ocean Front, Newport Beach


Dear Ms. Orozco:

This office represents Narconon Southern California ("Narconon")

Both state and federal laws protect the identity of any patient being treated at a
drug and/or alcohol treatment center such as Narconon which is licensed by the State
of California.  California Health and Safety Code section 11977, which mirror
sections 290dd-3 and 290ee-3 of Title 42 of the United States Code expressly provides
that not only the records but the identity of a patient is confidential. In fact, the
confidentiality of such information is so comprehensive and scrupulous, the federal
law prohibits even an acknowledgement of the presence of an identified patient at
such a facility without the written consent of the patient. 42 CFR   2.13(c).

These confidentiality laws serve an important public interest. Congress has expressly
stated that the purpose of these laws is to encourage patients to seek treatment for
their substance abuse problems without fear that their privacy would be compromised
by doing so. This rewards rather than punishes those who seek to fix their problems
rather than continue non-productive lives of addiction and despair.





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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 21:10 »
With EMS so close by, they should try calling 9-1-1 now and then....just in the case of a life-threatening emergency. Oh yeah, that might require having some medical staff to evaluate the need!

 (:E(
« Last Edit: March 27, 2012, 21:15 by mefree »
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Offline Mary_McConnell

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 23:14 »
Almost unbelieveable......

Thanks for all your efforts and work Sunshine :)

I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2012, 19:15 »
I'm on a project to gather info on all the facilities and current names, legal names and such and thought I would post what I found yesterday.

Narconon Southern Califronia changed it's legal name in California to Narconon Fresh Start on March 17, 2011.

However, Narconon Southern California is a Nevada state nonprofit corporation unless they forgot to update that record ( which happened much - revoked for several years while in business there due to lax admin)

Hoeever, they did not notify all agencies at the time, so for a while thy were operating under one name while promoting themselves as another.

In San Diego County  they are still licensed to use the fictition names like Fresh Start, JLB Ranch, Sunshine Summitt lodge under both corporate names. On the BBB, is still shows Sunshine Summit Lodge as being separate from the legal name Narconon Fresh Start when in fact, it is a fictitious listed under Fresh Start as shown below.

They also bought JLB Ranch in 2008 and were probably using this place as an illegal facility to address intentional over crowding. They were finally licensed by ADP in 2010.

Anyway, here is some info

San Diego County

Select Filing Number Business Name Owner Name Document Type Filing Date
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2011-016106  JLB RANCH NARCONON FRESH START

Statement  6/2/2011 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2011-016106  NARCONON JLB RANCH NARCONON

FRESH START Statement  6/2/2011 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2011-016105  NARCONON SAN DIEGO NARCONON

FRESH START Statement  6/2/2011 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2011-016105  SUNSHINE SUMMIT LODGE NARCONON

FRESH START Statement  6/2/2011 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2010-008556  JLB RANCH NARCONON SOUTHERN

CALIFORNIA Statement  3/26/2010 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2010-014760  NARCONON JLB RANCH NARCONON

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Statement  5/27/2010 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2004-039391  NARCONON SAN DIEGO NARCONON

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Statement  11/30/2004 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2004-039391  NARCONON WARNER SPRINGS

NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Statement  11/30/2004 
 ... Certified Non-Certified  2010-002279  SUNSHINE SUMMIT LODGE NARCONON

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Statement  1/27/2010 

Filing Number: 2011-016105   
Number of Businesses 2

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Business Name(s) NARCONON SAN DIEGO
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SUNSHINE SUMMIT LODGE

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Number Of Owners 1

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Owner(s) NARCONON FRESH START

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Filing Date 6/2/2011

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Expiration Date 6/2/2016

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Business Conducted By Corporation

 
http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/services/fbn/search.aspx

Narconon Fresh Start 2010 990 changed name from So Cal

Form 990, Part VI, Line 4 - Significant Changes to Organizational

Documents
Effective March 17, 2011, the Organization filed Amended Articles of
Incorporation changing its name to Narconon Fresh Start.
Form 990 , Part VI, Line 7a - Election of Members and Their Rights
The Organization has Trustees, whose function is to elect or remove
members of the Board of Directors.
Form 990 , Part VI, Line 7b - Decisions Subject to Approval of Members
Decisions regarding electing or removing Board members are subject to the
approval by the Trustees.
Form 990, Part VI, Line l1b - Organization's Process to Review Form 990
The Board of Directors reviews a draft of the 990 prior to filing.
Form 990, Part VI, Line 12c - Enforcement of Conflicts Policy
A survey is taken annually of all officers, directors, trustees and key
employees requiring disclosure of any actual or,potential conflict-

of interest
transactions. The Board reviews all significant transactions for
conformance with the conflict-of-interest policy.
Form 990, Part VI, Line 15a - Compensation Process for Top Official
Rates of compensation for all employees, including the CEO, top

management,
officers and key employees were reviewed by management personnel and the
Board of Directors. A comparability review was done of other non-

profit..."

"PART III - Stipends for Return-to-Work Program:
The Organization conducts a return-to-work program for selected students
who have graduated the Narconon drug rehabilitation program and indicate

a
desire to work at the Organization. During this training period, the
students are provided housing, meals, and a stipend of $50 per week.

Stipends- Rtn-to-Work Pgm b) Number of recipients 150  Amt Cash Grants

$65,470
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/330/330911677/330911677_2

01012_990.pdf


JLB address 35955 Hwy 79 Warner Springs 92086
APN/Parcel ID  114-080-39-00

35955 HIGHWAY 79, WARNER SPRINGS, CA 92086
$699,000
Sold Price:$636,000
Sold Date:06-03-2008 


MLS#: 071067525 Sold Price: $636,000
Sold Date: 06-03-2008  Original Price: $749,000
List Status: Sold Property Type: Detached 
Parcel Number: 114-080-39-00 School District: Warner 
Days on Market: 300 Sqft: 2120
Complex Name:  Sold Price Per Sqft: $300 
Subdivision: Sunshine Summit Stories: 1 Story,2 Story,other/remarks 
Community: Warner Springs
http://www.epiconerealestate.com/php/detacheddetailpagerets.php?

mlsid=071067525&liststatus=Sold&city=WARNER%20SPRINGS&zipcode=92086

APN/Parcel ID  114-080-39-00 
Census Tract  0209031095 
http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Record/35955-Highway-79-Warner-Springs-CA-92086/YCi0TTg1A/Property/?LID=15579991&LinkCode=21740&PgCxtGuid=a563bcd7-701b-4707-b75a-8c0fddb838bd&PgCxtFLKey=&PgCxtCurFLKey=ProfileSE&PgCxtDir=Down

Sunshine Summit Lodge
Phone: (877) 565-0123


 
35025 Hwy 79, Warner Springs, CA 92086
http://www.sunshinesummitlodge.com

 

Nevada

search NV records
http://www.nevadapublicrecord.com/

NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
 Business Entity Information 
 
Status:   Active File Date:   11/23/2004
Type:   Domestic Non-Profit Corporation Sole Entity Number:   CS31512-

2004
Qualifying State:   NV List of Officers Due:   11/30/2012
Managed By:    Expiration Date:   
NV Business ID:   NV20041660095 Business License Exp:   
 

 Additional Information 
 
Central Index Key:   
 

 Registered Agent Information 
 
Name:   INCORP SERVICES, INC. Address 1:   2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE STE 400
Address 2:    City:   HENDERSON
State:   NV Zip Code:   89074-7722
Phone:    Fax:   
Mailing Address 1:    Mailing Address 2:   
Mailing City:    Mailing State:   NV
Mailing Zip Code:       
Agent Type:   Commercial Registered Agent - Other
Jurisdiction:   NEVADA Status:   Active
 

 Financial Information 
 
No Par Share Count:   0 Capital Amount:   $ 0
No stock records found for this company
 

 Officers  Include Inactive Officers   
 
 Subscriber - CHRISTOPHER BAUGE
Address 1:   2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE - SUITE 400 Address 2:   
City:   HENDERSON State:   NV
Zip Code:   89074-7722 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - GLENN FARNSWORTH
Address 1:   2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE - SUITE 400 Address 2:   
City:   HENDERSON State:   NV
Zip Code:   89074-7722 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - LINDA KLOEFFLER
Address 1:   2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE - SUITE 400 Address 2:   
City:   HENDERSON State:   NV
Zip Code:   89074-7722 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - LARRY TRAHANT
Address 1:   2360 CORPORATE CIRCLE - SUITE 400 Address 2:   
City:   HENDERSON State:   NV
Zip Code:   89074-7722 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 

 Actions\Amendments 
 
Action Type:   Articles of Incorporation
Document Number:   CS31512-2004-001 # of Pages:   7
File Date:   11/23/2004 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Initial List
Document Number:   CS31512-2004-002 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   12/3/2004 Effective Date:   
List of Officers for 2004 to 2005
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20050581716-75 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   11/28/2005 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20060773629-02 # of Pages:   1
File Date:   11/30/2006 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Registered Agent Address Change
Document Number:   20080296150-43 # of Pages:   222
File Date:   4/29/2008 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Reinstatement
Document Number:   20100120500-21 # of Pages:   1
File Date:   2/25/2010 Effective Date:   
07/10
 
Action Type:   Acceptance of Registered Agent
Document Number:   20100120501-32 # of Pages:   1
File Date:   2/25/2010 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20110276704-90 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   4/13/2011 Effective Date:   
10-11
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20110847934-89 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   11/30/2011 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
 Narconon NV Lincoln county
Assessd taxes TAXROLL JULY 20, 2010

PARCEL# YEAR DIST NAME MAIL ADD MAIL CITY ST MAIL ZIP AD VAL TAX PEN/INT

BAL DUE
1401018 2011 5 NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD #208

LOS ANGELES CA 90038 275.84 0 275.84
1401020 2011 5 NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD #208

LOS ANGELES CA 90038 293.98 0



Entity Name: NARCONON FRESH START
Entity Number: C2213359
Date Filed: 02/23/2000
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD STE 208
Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90038
Agent for Service of Process: DONNA CASSELMAN
Agent Address: 6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD STE 208
Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90038

http://www.bbb.org/us/Find-Business-Reviews/name/Narconon/

BBB for Narconon Fresh Start omits Sunshine Summitt Lodge as being one its facilities
Here is the Fresh Start listing
Narconon, Inc. aka
Narconon Fresh Start
Review for Multiple Locations
225 West Broadway, Suite 420
Glendale, CA 91204
P.O. Box 10280
Glendale, CA 91209
17123 Roundhill Drive
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
6161 Santa Monica Blvd, Suite 206
Los Angeles, CA 90038

 Alternate Business Names
Narconon Fresh Start
Narconon Rehabilitation
Narconon, Inc.
Narconon Professional Center
Huntington Harbor House
Narconon JLB Ranch
 --------------------------------
 List of Narconon's at BBB 
Narconon Arrowhead
Narconon Arrowhead
69 Arrowhead Loop
Canadian, OK 74425-5012


Narconon Drug Prevention & Education
Narconon Drug Prevention & Education
4442 York Blvd., Suite 18
Los Angeles, CA 90041
 
Narconon Florida, Inc.
Narconon Florida, Inc.
22073 US Highway 19 N
Clearwater, FL 33765-2364
 
Narconon Freedom Center, Inc.
Narconon Freedom Center, Inc.
809 W Erie St
Albion, MI 49224-1523
 
Narconon Gulf Coast
Narconon Gulf Coast
3391 Scenic Highway 98
Destin, FL 32541-4748
 
Narconon Louisiana New Life Retreat, Inc.
Narconon Louisiana New Life Retreat, Inc.
35059 Bend Road
Denham Springs, LA 70706

Narconon Nevada, Rainbow Canyon Recovery
Narconon Nevada, Rainbow Canyon Recovery
H.C.R. 64 Box 15
Henderson, NV 89009

Narconon of Georgia
Narconon of Georgia
5688 Peachtree Pkwy Ste B1
Norcross, GA 30092-2848


Narconon of Vista Bay
Narconon of Vista Bay
262 Gaffey Rd
Watsonville, CA 95076


Narconon Vista Bay/S Lake Tahoe
Narconon Vista Bay/S Lake Tahoe
586 Glorene Ave
South Lake Tahoe, CA 96150-3907

   
Narconon fresh Start
Narconon fresh Start aka
Sunshine Summit Lodge
35025 Hwy 79
Warner Springs, CA 92086
 
 
Desert Rehab Center (Narconon)
Desert Rehab Center (Narconon)
27805 Hopper Road
Desert Hot Springs, CA 92241

BBB Review | File Complaint
 


ttp://nccsdataweb.urban.org/PubApps/990search.php?bmf=1
Pathetic, heh? Well they are supposed to be upgrading their reqs. Lot's

of conflict within the ranks and facilities on standards.

That Treatment That Works page needs to be updated. ( I will notify them)

Narconon in Newport Beach  was closed in Feb 2010, finally. But they up

and rented another place in Huntington Beach. Program Name:  HUNTINGTON

HARBOR HOUSE.
Legal Name: NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
17123 ROUNDHILL DRIVE HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA 92649  same # (800)876-6378

ie: Formerly known as Warner Springs now known as:
Program Name: SUNSHINE SUMMIT LODGE Legal Name: NARCONON SOUTHERN

CALIFORNIA
35025 HIGHWAY 79, BUILDINGS A, G, I AND J WARNER SPRINGS, CA 92086

You can find all the Narconons on this monthly updated list of

facilities
. It shows the occupancies and type of facility. Just

search Narconon
http://www.adp.ca.gov/Licensing/pdf/Status_Report.pdf

Noticably missing is Narconon Joshua Hills! Yea, that closed down for

good. But they have another illegal one that I still have to document and

report.

Keep the above link handy for updated listings monthly.
California: http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/list.html
California Registry of Charitable Trusts (RCT)
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facility=Y
Nevada state Narconon:

https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpSearc

h.aspx

Nevada state
Narconon: was in default by November 30, 2007 and then revoked Dec 1,

2008
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
 Business Entity Information 
 
Status:   Revoked on 12/1/2008 File Date:   11/23/2004
Type:   Domestic Non-Profit Corporation Sole Corp Number:   CS31512-2004
Qualifying State:   NV List of Officers Due:   11/30/2007
Managed By:    Expiration Date:   
 

 Registered Agent Information 
 
Name:   INCORP SERVICES, INC. Address 1:   375 N STEPHANIE ST STE 1411
Address 2:    City:   HENDERSON
State:   NV Zip Code:   89014-8909
Phone:    Fax:   
Mailing Address 1:    Mailing Address 2:   
Mailing City:    Mailing State:   NV
Mailing Zip Code:       
Agent Type:   Commercial Registered Agent - Other
Jurisdiction:   NEVADA Status:   Active
 

 Financial Information 
 
No Par Share Count:   0 Capital Amount:   $ 0
No stock records found for this company
 

 Officers  Include Inactive Officers   
 
 Subscriber - JULIE BRYANT
Address 1:   3155 E PATRICK STE 1 Address 2:   
City:   LAS VEGAS State:   NV
Zip Code:   89120-3481 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - PATRICIA SCHWARTZ
Address 1:   3155 E PATRICK STE 1 Address 2:   
City:   LAS VEGAS State:   NV
Zip Code:   89120-3481 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - LARRY TRAHANT
Address 1:   3155 E PATRICK STE 1 Address 2:   
City:   LAS VEGAS State:   NV
Zip Code:   89120-3481 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 Subscriber - DAVID WORTHINGTON
Address 1:   3155 E PATRICK STE 1 Address 2:   
City:   LAS VEGAS State:   NV
Zip Code:   89120-3481 Country:   
Status:   Active Email:   
 
 

 Actions\Amendments 
 
Action Type:   Articles of Incorporation
Document Number:   CS31512-2004-001 # of Pages:   7
File Date:   11/23/2004 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Initial List
Document Number:   CS31512-2004-002 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   12/03/2004 Effective Date:   
List of Officers for 2004 to 2005
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20050581716-75 # of Pages:   2
File Date:   11/28/2005 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Annual List
Document Number:   20060773629-02 # of Pages:   1
File Date:   11/30/2006 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
Action Type:   Registered Agent Address Change
Document Number:   20080296150-43 # of Pages:   222
File Date:   04/29/2008 Effective Date:   
(No notes for this action)
 
California:
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Corporation
NARCONON INTERNATIONAL 
Number: C0598820  Date Filed: 5/20/1970  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
4652 HOLLYWOOD BLVD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90027 
Agent for Service of Process
SHERMAN D LENSKE 
6400 CANOGA AVE STE 315 
WOODLAND, CA 91367-2491 

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Corporation
NARCONON WESTERN UNITED STATES 
Number: C2712068  Date Filed: 12/23/2004  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
6161 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD
SUITE 208
LOS ANGELES, CA 90038 
Agent for Service of Process
HELENA K. KOBRIN 
3055 WILSHIRE BOULEVARD 
SUITE 900 
LOS ANGELES, CA 90010 

_________________________


Corporation
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 
Number: C2213359  Date Filed: 2/23/2000  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD SUITE 208
LOS ANGELES, CA 90038 
Agent for Service of Process
ARTHUR B. HADDRILL 
6161 SANTA MONICA BLVD. 
SUITE 208 
LOS ANGELES, CA 90038 

__________________________


Corporation
NARCONON JOSHUA HILLS 
Number: C2843726  Date Filed: 9/27/2006  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
39 GIBRALTER DRIVE
PALM DESERT, CA 92211 
Agent for Service of Process
TIFFANY YU PHARMER 
39 GIBRALTER DRIVE 
PALM DESERT, CA 92211 

___________________________
Corporation
NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA 
Number: C1570562  Date Filed: 10/15/1990  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
262 GAFFEY RD
WATSONVILLE, CA 95076 
Agent for Service of Process
HELENA KOBRIN 
3055 WILSHIRE BLVD STE 900 
LOS ANGELES, CA 90010 

_________________________

Corporation
NARCONON SAN DIEGO 
Number: C2742633  Date Filed: 3/18/2005  Status: suspended 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
35025 HWY 79
WARNER SPRINGS, CA 92086 
Agent for Service of Process
DANEL C CARLTON 
2600 MICHELSON DR STE 1120 
IRVINE, CA 92612 
_______________________________

Corporation
NARCONON OF WEST HOLLYWOOD 
Number: C2477724  Date Filed: 12/2/2002  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
7060 HOLLYWOOD BLVD STE 220
LOS ANGELES, CA 90028 
Agent for Service of Process
SHERMAN D LENSKE 
6400 CANOGA AVE STE 315 
WOODLAND HILLS, CA 91367-2491 

_________________________

Corporation
NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATION, INC. 
Number: C2186790  Date Filed: 3/3/2000  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
4442 YORK BLVD #18
LOS ANGELES, CA 90041 
Agent for Service of Process
SIGAL ADINI 
4442 YORK BLVD #18 
LOS ANGELES, CA 90041 

_______________________________

Corporation
FRIENDS OF NARCONON INTL. 
Number: C1765679  Date Filed: 6/22/1995  Status: active 
Jurisdiction: California
Address 
622 E VILLA ST
PASADENA, CA 91101 
Agent for Service of Process
ROBERT HERNANDEZ 
622 E VILLA ST 
PASADENA, CA 91101 

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2012, 22:04 »
Thanks Mary for all the info, didn’t know about Desert Rehab Center http://www.desertrehabcenter.com/index.html says they are licensed and state certified.

There are NO Narconons in California that are certified and Desert Rehab Center does not show up on ADPs website.

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 08:14 »
You're welcome. Desert Rehab was Narconon Joshua Hills with facility name "Mary's House" Riverside County. Its been closed down since late 2010, thanks for a former student's report to many about his experiences there and what was going on ( staff using drugs, giving out drugs, over occupancy sex with stufdents, no oversight... they iussual)

A previous complaint by Daniel and Sara (Vogel ) Locatelli included all the other houses they were using illegally to house patients in that area so, combined with this and another report, an inspection was done and they were closed. http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=463.0

Riverside County Fictitious Name search under Pharmer for Danny & Tiffany, owners of NN Joshua Hill dba Desert Rehab, Palm Springs and other names ( Active names only)
http://riverside.asrclkrec.com/OSfbn.asp

Business Name Registrant Name File No.
Date Filed Abandoned Expiration Date
NARCONON PALM SPRINGS  PHARMER, DANNY WALLER  R-200808095  XXX
6/23/2008
6/23/2013
MRS. CLEAN  PHARMER, TIFFANY  I-200902476   
9/1/2009
9/1/2014
PALM SPRINGS INT. REHAB SERVICES  PHARMER, TIFFANY  I-200900889 XXX
3/31/2009
3/31/2014
DESERT QUALITY CARE SERVICES  PHARMER, TIFFANY  I-201102387
8/30/2011
8/30/2016
PALM SPRINGS REHAB SERVICES  PHARMER, TIFFANY  I-200900889  XXX
3/31/2009
3/31/2014
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They are not licensed at all to run any rehab in CA as far as I could tell. I have found nothing on the internet either on them operating a rehab but that does not mean they aren't. I do know that the Pharmers have lost some of the homes to forclosure and are not doing well with thse they still own.
 
If you google Danny Pharmer + Narconon or Tiffany Pharmer or Guzman + Narconon, you will we kept up with what they were doing. I think Tiffany is in the eldercare business again, what she were doing before Narconon. ( I didn't show all the expired DBA licenses, most were hers in health care) Danny ( not the singer Danny Pharmer), being a shyster of long duration, is running his Palm Springs Walk of Fame thing with some of his buddies, now that Las Vegas went bust.

That they own DBA certs and that the Corp is not defunct YET leads me to believe they may be holding it eventually do something. The last year filed nonprofit IRS form 990 was for 2008 but they are still listed as a charity with CA state and the IRS, despite lack of returns filed since. They should be audited by the IRS for fraud - having operated long past last registration, tax filings and overcapacity ( showing fraud) . They are under Narconon Int's group license

Full Name: NARCONON JOSHUA HILLS FEIN: 743193939
 Type: Public Benefit   Corporate or Organization Number: 2843726
   
 Registration Number: CT0145950
Record Type: Charity  Registration Type: Charity Registration
Issue Date: 9/30/2008  Renewal Due Date: 5/15/2011
Registration Status: Current  Date This Status: 9/30/2008
Date of Last Renewal: 1/21/2010
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&license_id=1163663&
 
lots of info here on Narconons, including dox
http://nccs.urban.org/ ( Find An Organization)

http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facility=Y

Thanks Mary for all the info, didn’t know about Desert Rehab Center http://www.desertrehabcenter.com/index.html says they are licensed and state certified.

There are NO Narconons in California that are certified and Desert Rehab Center does not show up on ADPs website.
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 16:43 »
  I am seeing this pattern of behavior happening in other area,s too.  ;D

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 19:48 »
Narconon Professional Center was the dba of Narconon West Hollywood, a defunct Narconon since many years. See this article for ref:
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/media/psychoactives_media4.shtml
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 21:17 »
It appears Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge is playing the BBB shuffle.

I have not included the web pages, I'm not sure if is ok to copy and paste them. Perhaps  someone could enlighten me if it's ok to copy and paste part of a website.  I have broken the link to Narconon's site by adding an "X" in front http (xhttp).

 Narconon's Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge (SSL) BBB webpage page

xhttp://www.sunshinesummitlodge.com/better_business_bureau_rating
 
links to the BBB page  for Narconon but due to updating (BBB)  a rating is not indicated.

BBB webpage
 http://www.bbb.org/los-angeles/business-reviews/alcoholism-info-and-treatment-centers/narconon-fresh-start-in-glendale-ca-13106049

Note Narconon's address; 225W Broadway Ste 420 Glendale CA BUT if you go to " Search For" at the top of the page and type in Narconon Fresh Start you are directed to a different BBB page that list all the all the Narconon facilities.

 http://losangeles.bbb.org/find-business-reviews/name/narconon+fresh+start/

There are  three exact matches, the first has a drop down menu that shows four address  2 Glendale's, 1 Huntington  Beach and 1 Los Angeles, no Warner Springs address (location of SSL).

If you look at the third exact match there is Sunshine Summit Lodge if you select the blue Sunshine Summit Lodge it will take you to this BBB webpage

 http://www.bbb.org/san-diego/business-reviews/drug-abuse-and-addiction-info-and-treatment/sunshine-summit-lodge-in-warner-springs-ca-171999746

Amazing Sunshine Summit Lodge is not BBB accredited, yet they say they are A+ on their website

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 12:02 »
It appears Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge is playing the BBB shuffle.

I have not included the web pages, I'm not sure if is ok to copy and paste them. Perhaps  someone could enlighten me if it's ok to copy and paste part of a website.  I have broken the link to Narconon's site by adding an "X" in front http (xhttp).

Yes, Sunshine, it's ok to copy and paste parts of the web pages (for documentation and/or discussion). 

Helpful info:
I use a Firefox addon to take screenshots of complete pages: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/abduction/
There is another addon for screenshots I like as well: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fireshot/

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Narconon's Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge (SSL) BBB webpage page

xhttp://www.sunshinesummitlodge.com/better_business_bureau_rating

In order to see anything on that page, I had to go through the main page xhttp://www.sunshinesummitlodge.com/

and select "Better Business Bureau Rating" from the "Who We Are" menu.  They probably have it set to not display if there's a direct link from elsewhere.  Here's a screenshot of that page (click to enlarge):



 
I find it interesting that the page also links to trustlink.org, which they say is "a Better Business Bureau Program".  trustlink.org is registered through a proxy (doesn't show domain ownership info), and the site itself says:
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TrustLink was originally founded by the Better Business Bureau in 2008 to provide a forum for consumer complaints and compliments regarding the service companies they’ve employed. The site was launched in 2010 and in less than a year became the most popular rating site in Southern California for Home Improvement, Professional Services, Retail and Web-based businesses. Based on TrustLink’s rapid acceptance, it’s clear both consumers and service businesses value a trusted system for interaction and reviews.
...
In 2012 TrustLink was spun out of the BBB to address a wider geographic audience of consumers and businesses. ...

If you search for Narconon on trustlink.org (select "all" for distance), it shows 3 locations:

Narconon Drug Prevention & Education
 4442 York Blvd., Suite 18
Los Angeles, CA 90041
Drug-Detox-Rehab.Org

Narconon Fresh Start
 225 West Broadway, Suite 420
Glendale, CA 91204
treatmentthatworks.com

Narconon Vista Bay
262 Gaffey Rd
Watsonville, CA 95076-9731
vistabay.com

It's also loaded up with glowing reviews of Narconon.  The site also has a hard-to-find "community" section:
http://www.trustlink.org/Ask-the-Community

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links to the BBB page  for Narconon but due to updating (BBB)  a rating is not indicated.

BBB webpage
 http://www.bbb.org/los-angeles/business-reviews/alcoholism-info-and-treatment-centers/narconon-fresh-start-in-glendale-ca-13106049

Note Narconon's address; 225W Broadway Ste 420 Glendale CA BUT if you go to " Search For" at the top of the page and type in Narconon Fresh Start you are directed to a different BBB page that list all the all the Narconon facilities.

 http://losangeles.bbb.org/find-business-reviews/name/narconon+fresh+start/

There are  three exact matches, the first has a drop down menu that shows four address  2 Glendale's, 1 Huntington  Beach and 1 Los Angeles, no Warner Springs address (location of SSL).

If you look at the third exact match there is Sunshine Summit Lodge if you select the blue Sunshine Summit Lodge it will take you to this BBB webpage

 http://www.bbb.org/san-diego/business-reviews/drug-abuse-and-addiction-info-and-treatment/sunshine-summit-lodge-in-warner-springs-ca-171999746

Amazing Sunshine Summit Lodge is not BBB accredited, yet they say they are A+ on their website

I am skeptical of the BBB's veracity, but I imagine would hope they are not aware of the individual branches of Narconon Fresh Start, and how Narconon operates.  The way I understand it, Fresh Start is a management organization, that oversees (the money coming in from) the individual centers:
  • Huntington Harbor House
  • Narconon Newport Beach (closed)
  • JLB Ranch (closed?)
  • Narconon San Diego, Narconon Warner Springs, Sunshine Summit Lodge (same facility)
  • A Life Worth Living, A Life Worth Saving, Narconon Colorado, Narconon Fort Collins, Fort Collins New Life Center (same facility, in Colorado)
  • Narconon Nevada, Rainbow Canyon Recovery, Rainbow Canyon Retreat, Rainbow Ranch (same facility, in Nevada)
  • Narconon Lone Star Victory Ranch (in Harlingen, Texas)

We are working on getting addresses on the listings on Narconon Reviews to try to straighten out this deliberately obfuscated corporate morass.  Thanks for the pointer that led me to some additional "Informal Complaints" (on trustlink.org)

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 21:40 »
|*\                 /*|

And now...
...the long-awaited return of the thread that Narconon tried to kill...




Add this to your stats for next week, "George".
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 23:10 »
Do you mean someone is worried about something in this thread? What could it be???
The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis.
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2013, 15:03 »
Thanks ethercat, can you give us some details on what happen when you have time?

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2013, 02:19 »
BBB: not always independent or trusted source....
Rumors swirled for a long time about several BBB affiliates before the LA BBB affiliate was exposed and expelled.
http://business.time.com/2013/03/19/why-the-better-business-bureau-should-give-itself-a-bad-grade/

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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2013, 14:20 »
Nice article, who me?  I've added a link to it on the Consumer Organizations page at Narconon Reviews, a part of the Making Complaints about your Drug Rehab Experience section.

Sunshine, I may post some details later on; I need to decide how much and what should be posted or not.  Strategically speaking, that is.   ;)
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2013, 08:09 »
Trustlink.org WHOIS records show it's registered to the home address of Paul V. Miller of Cupertino, CA. Property records for the address show the home is owned by Miller and his wife, Gina Funaro Miller.

Miller holds at least six patents, and is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur with a Harvard MBA. His LinkedIn profile states the following:


CFO/COO
TrustLink

2012 – 2013 (1 year)

Business review website to provide both free and premium online services for local businesses. Originally founded by the Better Business Bureau, the company was spun out as a private entity. Provided interim management services to setup the company's finance, IT systems and admin functions.

Looks like Miller may have moved on to other business development/VC projects.

Here is the registration information:

Domain ID:D148747859-LROR
Domain Name:TRUSTLINK.ORG
Created On:30-Jul-2007 17:37:21 UTC
Last Updated On:25-Jul-2013 20:25:16 UTC
Expiration Date:30-Jul-2015 17:37:21 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR122916985
Registrant Name:Paul Miller
Registrant Street1:10816 Linda Vista Dr.
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Cupertino
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:95014
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4088926240
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:pvmiller20@gmail.com
Admin ID:CR122916989
Admin Name:Paul Miller
Admin Street1:10816 Linda Vista Dr.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Cupertino
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:95014
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4088926240
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:pvmiller20@gmail.com
Tech ID:CR122916987
Tech Name:Paul Miller
Tech Street1:10816 Linda Vista Dr.
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Cupertino
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:95014
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4088926240
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:pvmiller20@gmail.com
Name Server:ns51.domaincontrol.com
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Re: Narconon Fresh Start and the BBB
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2013, 20:42 »
Very interesting, and thank you, Miss Fortune.  When I checked it, it was registered under a proxy.  So distinct this memory was to me, I hunted around and found a cached page last updated March 31, 2012 that shows the proxy: http://www.dnscook.net/hostip.php/trustlink.org

There's a TrustLink Members group on LinkedIn too:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/TrustLink-Members-4642747


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TrustLink Members is now an open group Manager's Choice

Dean Frost
President at Frost Investments

I am pleased to announce that, as the owner of this group, I have just switched us to an open discussion group. All future discussions will be fully visible, searchable, and shareable on the Web. All past discussions are now closed in a members-only archive. I look forward to our future discussions now joining the broader conversation of the wider Web.
Like  Comment  Follow  4 months ago

8 members, and that's the only visible discussion.  I guess they don't really care for being open.   :P

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Dean Frost: www.linkedin.com/pub/dean-frost/0/8/576
President at Frost Investments
    Greater Los Angeles Area
    Venture Capital & Private Equity

Current   
    TrustLink, Berkeley Ventures, Elizabeth Shutters

Previous   
    Better Business Bureau, StockPower, Frost Capital Partners/Frost Capital Europe

Education   
    Harvard Business School

Background Summary
Founder/CEO Frost Capital Partners/Frost Capital Europe, largest investment bank worldwide in entertainment & education software.

Frost Investments established Maxim Investments Holdings to invest in recycling basic materials; primarily plastics in Mexico. Sold Maxim to Luis Valles in 2004.

Frost Investments bought Elizabeth Shutters, the largest direct-to-consumer shutter company on the West Coast in 2005. Currently serving as Chairman.

Frost Investments bought TrustLink.org in 2012. Currently serving as President.

Specialties: One of the most experienced games designing, social network operating, plastics recycling, shutter manufacturing, investment bankers in greater Colton. Also good with balloon animals.


LOL, wut?  Must have a sense of humor, probably not a scientologist.   :D


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Experience
Executive Director
Better Business Bureau
June 2005 – June 2012 (7 years 1 month)

Board Member and member of the Executive Committee of the largest, most profitable BBB in the U.S.
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