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Title: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: AnonLover on August 01, 2013, 00:11
Ruh roh. Narconon Canada is looking for a new home in a new province.

Rehabilitation centre for drug addicts proposed for Mono-Adjala Townline
http://www.citizen.on.ca/news/2013-08-01/Regional_News/Rehabilitation_centre_for_drug_addicts_proposed_fo.html

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Representatives from Meridian Planning (Meridian), Narconon International and Narconon Canada were greeted by a crowd of concerned citizens that filled the small meeting room in the Hockley Community and Seniors Hall Tuesday evening.

West Coast Property Investments Inc. is looking to acquire the property at 994091 Mono-Adjala Townline, about a mile north of Hockley village on the Adjala side of the townline. Currently listed for $2.9 million, the site would house a private drug addiction recovery centre.

“The intent of this open house is really to introduce and give you a lot of detail about what’s proposed on this property,” said Mark Stone, a Meridian Planning associate. “We’re also here to answer questions and hear the concerns.”

Mr. Stone explained that as an urban planner, Meridian was retained by the applicant to look at the proposed land use and planning documents to assist the zoning application through the process. An application was submitted in June and it was at a meeting a couple of weeks ago that Township officials suggested that a public meeting would be a good idea. The public meeting on Tuesday was not a requirement of the Planning Act but, according to Mr. Stone, holding a meeting was advisable because of type of community and the nature of the proposal.

“The municipality is holding onto the zoning application right now, they really haven’t started processing it because they wanted us to host this type of meeting and report back to them,” said Mr. Stone. “Then following that if they decide to go through the process they will advertise and there will be a statutory public meeting at the municipal offices with full notice and there will have to be signs on the property an so on.”

Community questions and concerns took up the majority of the almost three-hour meeting Tuesday night.

The property currently has five existing single detached dwellings that were built starting in the 1960’s, the last one being built in the 1980’s. There is a storage building that will continue to be used for that purpose, a large pond and a tree farm, that according to Clark Carr, President of Narconon International, they intend to continue farming.

“The proposal is to establish addiction recovery and life skills development education centre,” said Mr. Stone. “The intent in general terms is that the main dwelling will be used as a main office. It will also have counseling rooms and education rooms. The four other single detached dwellings will continue to be used as such. They all have kitchens and bedrooms and living areas.”

Mr. Stone said that the way the application has been set up, if you were to drive by or fly over it, the site would look exactly the same as it now does in terms of buildings.

Narconon International has been a nationally recognized charity in the United States since 1972. Formed in 1966, it’s a drug-free social education model aiming for stable, permanent recovery.

...

more at the link
 :-\
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 01, 2013, 06:25
Thank you, AnonLover.  Awaiting moderation:
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I hope that residents and leaders of Adjala Tosorontio Township will take the time to do research on Narconon before this comes up for a decision. A good place to start that research would be NarcononReviews.net, where a number of documents that pertain to Narconon have been (and continue to be) collected in the "Researchers" section. The site has no commercial interests; it is purely an informational site, intended to educate people and give them information they need to form their own conclusions about Narconon.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on August 01, 2013, 09:51
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Narconon International has been a nationally recognized charity in the United States since 1972. Formed in 1966, it’s a drug-free social education model aiming for stable, permanent recovery.

Say what?? That's a pretty neat trick since the earliest date shown in the IRS Exempt Organization list for any narCONon is 1975.

Of course Clark Carr's penchant for "acceptable truths", hey '72 is close to '75, is well known. I hope the folks in Ontario are well aware of that.



Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: AnonLover on August 01, 2013, 10:57
Another article:

http://www.simcoe.com/news-story/3918674-proposed-rehab-centre-has-scientology-ties/
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 01, 2013, 12:53
Another article:

http://www.simcoe.com/news-story/3918674-proposed-rehab-centre-has-scientology-ties/

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While he’s aware of some of the controversies around the rehab centres, (Mayor) Walsh said he doesn’t have any concerns to note at this time.

According to CBC, a Narconon-run rehab centre in Trois-Rivières, Que., was shut down in April 2012 after four people were hospitalized because of the detox methods used at the site. Instead of using drugs to break addictions, the program’s clients go cold turkey, undergo sauna treatments and take vitamins.

Carr said the program was shut down because it didn’t fit under the medical model of Quebec.

However, the regional health authority in Quebec said the centre was shut down due to lack of medical supervision and no scientific basis for the treatment.

Carr dismisses these claims.

Clark Carr: Liars, they're all liars!  Even the ones who issued the order to shut down are liars! 

Just keep on denying reality, Clark.   _/?%  Your program is hurting people.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on August 01, 2013, 20:21
Lisa's not buying it.

By Lisa | AUGUST 01, 2013 12:39 PM
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I attended the town meeting on July 29, and the community made it more than clear, they do NOT want this facility in Hockley Village. The Narconon presenters of the meeting absolutely were NOT forthright or honest with their connections with Scientology, their level of staffing expertise or levels of security on the proposed site. NO facts or supporting documentation were presented, and not a question or concern that was presented by the community - was answered with a direct response. Very untrustworthy, and ambiguous presentation.
http://www.simcoe.com/news-story/3918674-proposed-rehab-centre-has-scientology-ties/

Clark must have come from the Mary Rieser school of communication.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: 10oriocookies on August 01, 2013, 21:48
"Narconon- find somewhere else to go.  You are NOT welcome here."

Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 02, 2013, 08:45
Clark must have come from the Mary Rieser school of communication.

Yeah, they both attended the L. Ron Hubbard School.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on August 02, 2013, 09:58
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    Carr said the program was shut down because it didn’t fit under the medical model of Quebec.

    However, the regional health authority in Quebec said the centre was shut down due to lack of medical supervision and no scientific basis for the treatment.

    Carr dismisses these claims.

Who to believe, the regional health authority for Quebec, or Clark 'Acceptable Truth' Carr???

Tough one, isn't it??
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on August 02, 2013, 16:58
 ooo:/ 3((:
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 05, 2013, 20:16
Here's the property listing:
http://therealestatemarket.com/google-map-search.html/405093.search/details-27229674

Odd little note at the bottom of the page:
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This website may only be used by consumers that have a bona fide interest in the purchase, sale, or lease of real estate of the type being offered via the website.

Duh, maybe the site should have put up a splash page for people to read that on before they hit on the actual page.  That's like those software licenses that used to say "By opening this package, you agree to the terms" - but you had to open the package to get to the license to read it.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on August 07, 2013, 08:54
Doesn't keeping the property out of the hands of scamsters, hucksters, and quacks qualify as a "Bona fide interest"??

Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 07, 2013, 18:11
Doesn't keeping the property out of the hands of scamsters, hucksters, and quacks qualify as a "Bona fide interest"??

One would hope so.  That's why I so blatantly disregarded their little note, BigBeard.   ;D
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on August 25, 2013, 15:32
Let's don't forget about the locals on the front lines - they've organized.
Hockley Valley Narconon Opposition Growing (http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/hockley-valley-narconon-opposition-growing/)
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 04, 2013, 00:02
Terrific news!! Narconon has been knocked out of the game to operate in Hockley Valley, Ontario Canada!! Property they were negotiating was sold to a local.. read how it went down

From No Drug Rehab in Hockley Valley Facebook group:
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Lisa Murrill Caissie

Community Announcement:
It is with great excitement that we share the proposed Narconon site has been purchased by a local Hockley family. With the very generous assistance of neighbour and realtor (Grant Hilborn) the offer was accepted. The property will be rented by some of the Blenkarn family for the next year and the new owner will continue the tree farm operation.

Narconon came back with a counter offer, however, it was important to the Benkarn's that the property to go to a "community friendly" buyer and thankfully they did not accept.

It is important to note that Narconon is not likely to give up pursuing properties in this area. With the Hockley Highlands in close proximity they will likely re-emerge again elsewhere in our community. In the Toronto Star article Clark Carr stated that "this was one of the properties they were considering". It is important to continue our efforts to prevent this from happening. Perhaps we need to focus our efforts on lobbying for a pro-active provincial ban as they have done in Quebec.

I would like to leave you all tonight by saying that Knights in shining armor & Heroes do live outside of fairy tales. They also live in Hockley Valley

On behalf of the community - thank you to the Heroes of Hockley!

From the Real Estate Broker:
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Marc Ronan
As Most of you know Prudential Ronan Realty is handling the sale of a large estate property owned by the Blenkarn family trust. Recently an offer was received from a Toronto Remax Realtor representing a organization called Narcanon. The Blenkarn family with our professional advice chose not to finalize this agreement and has now Sold the Estate Property to a local buyer from the Hockley Valley residential community with no change or request for any change in the existing zoning. Congratulations to the Blenkarn Family on the firm sale of this special estate property. Regards Marc Ronan


Kudos to all who helped make this happen. The very recent Toronto Star article probably helped a bit, too.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/09/02/narconon_meets_fierce_opposition_in_hockley_valley.html
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on September 04, 2013, 08:35
 *i*l*:D  For everyone that made this happen.

Yahooeeee!!!   V{}\H

Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on September 04, 2013, 17:31
Impressive victory!
 |=||=||=| :^:^:^:E
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 02, 2014, 14:03
I don't believe that they'd give up, and it's been a year. Pick up your visual scanning!
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: wynot on September 02, 2014, 20:06
I don't believe that they'd give up, and it's been a year. Pick up your visual scanning!

They might have decided to at least postpone that battle; they are fighting on many fronts now, and their resources notoriously move up from lower orgs, like Narconon, to Captain Sciuridae, and seldom (if ever) the other way! Must make Thursday stats extra hard to fill, don't ya think? ;)

`til next time;
wynot
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 02, 2014, 23:19
Larger scale Narconons are hideously profitable, if they can be kept near capacity. For each bed space, take in $32,000, subtract a pittance in overhead, repeat four times a year. Assume a large $10,000 overhead (FSM, costs, salaries), 100 beds, that's $8.8M/year and whatever extra they can scam. Oh, and Scientology recruits are always useful.

The Hockley Valley property would have cost them $2.9M, plus some costs to turn it into a Narconon. I don't think that would come from the Ontario locals or hidden leftover money from Narconon Trois-Rivières.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: wynot on September 03, 2014, 09:11
So where does the seed money come from?

`til later;
wynot
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 16, 2014, 13:56
Ping! Something on the radar!

19646 Kennedy Road, Caledon was the place where they stashed the Continental Liaison Office after moving out of the Toronto Org. It's been listed for sale a couple times, but no confirmation that they sold it and moved out to the AO or Cambridge.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-facility-at-caledon-ontario.91357/

Brad Melnychuck has two addiction domains with that address, but that could just be sloppiness.

This is newer:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-house-rental/city-of-toronto/looking-for-room-for-rent-in-caledonia-on/1007720214?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
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Date Listed 29-Jul-14
I will start work soon at Addictions Canada and was looking for room for rent for one month. The address is stated below:
19646 Kennedy Road, Caledon, ON L7K 1Y2
I was hoping to find a place near the address above.
If anything is available, please contact me at 519-819-1506

Hmm. It's possible some other non-Narconon rehab moved in. I dunno... *sniff*sniff*
http://www.addictioncanada.ca/locations.html

Their pictures for their Caledon location match. Some even still have the Hubbard crap on the walls.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 16, 2014, 14:19
Hmm. It's possible some other non-Narconon rehab moved in. I dunno... *sniff*sniff*
If it is Addiction Canada, I've checked into them before. They are just as bad as Narconon, with identical horror stories (success rate lies, drugs, sex, violence, rape), and yet, no obvious Scientology connection. Apparently Christian-ish. The owner pops open new locations, runs them for a while, then skips on the rent or whatever, opens another under a different name.)

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-canada-pushes-for-new-narconon-in-ontario.109853/#post-2484682
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 17, 2014, 08:01
It's so annoying that Addiction Canada aka John Haines crossed paths with Scientology. If you read the complaints against them, it's like checking off boxes on a Narconon:


But there are three important checkboxes unchecked: The TRs, Shouting at ashtrays, Pictures of LRH. If there was a Narconon connection those would be mentioned.

http://blog.canadiandrugrehabcentres.com/2011/12/16/welcome-to-pickerel-lake-recovery-center/

Without a physical look, it's hard to tell if this guy has even really bought Scientology's property. He shooped his sign over the real estate photo.
(http://www.addictioncanada.ca/images/Caledon1.jpg)
Before:
(http://mediatours.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/19646-kennedy-road-caledon-robbie-mair/11.jpg)

As always, I'm collecting domains, but I don't have a "Sleezebag drug rehabs that probably aren't Narconon" category.
howitworksrecovery.ca
www.addictioncanada.ca
www.muskokarecovery.com
www.pickerellakerecovery.com
www.pickerellakerecoveryreviews.ca
vitanovus.ca
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on September 17, 2014, 11:19
... "Sleezebag drug rehabs that probably aren't Narconon" category.

There are lots of those.    $O$

IMO, the good rehabs need to start participating in cleaning up their field, before the bad reputations of some tarnish them all.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on September 17, 2014, 11:59
IMO, the good rehabs need to start participating in cleaning up their field, before the bad reputations of some tarnish them all.
That and some more standards groups cracking down hard like NAFC is.

Apparently Addiction Canada doesn't have any of the certifications or memberships whose logos it displays on its sites. Not even CARF! (Ha, how bad do you have to be that CARF won't touch it?) They do seem to have dropped the Addictions Professionals Association of Saskatchewan (APASK) logo that they had last year, so they hopefully received a legal nastygram.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on October 09, 2014, 00:01
With all the Scieno Facebook noise about a new Narconon Ontario, I verified that the 19464 Kennedy Rd location (former CLO Canada) has an Addictions Canada, apparently non-Narconon, sign in front.

(http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/pix/VitaNovus.jpg)
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on February 02, 2015, 21:57
It looks like they tried to sneak in a place closer to Cambridge, and never checked the zoning laws with the local authorities. DENIED!

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/5298859-drug-and-rehab-facility-operator-going-to-omb-after-milton-application-denied/

Hopefully the OMB will turn them down. They're a corporation owned by the province government, but run like their own little private empire.

The only bit that bothers me is that this place has a capacity of 10, making it a mini-Narconon like those in Destin FL. The original place they wanted to buy in Ontario was much larger. Are they downplaying the capacity to fit bylaws until it's open then hoping to slowly up that number, or do they have another place that they're looking at?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on February 02, 2015, 22:44
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According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

This issue may prevent the application from moving forward. It's an important one.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 03, 2015, 09:12
Thanks to David Love for posting about this on ESMB
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38275-Canada-Scientology-going-to-OMB-after-application-for-Milton-rehab-being-denied

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Milton Canadian Champion
By Rachael Williams

Feb. 2, 2015

An application by a Scientology-based company to establish a drug and rehab facility in Milton is headed for a four-day hearing at the end of March to determine if the property owners can set up shop.

A Church of Scientology entity called Social Betterment Properties International has appealed a decision made by the Town’s Committee of Adjustment and Consent to use a property located at 7651 Milburough Line as a drug and rehabilitation facility. Called Narconon, meaning ‘no drugs’, the company treats addictions using nutritional and nutritional supplements, according to company representative Rubina Qureshi. [..]

[..] According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

“We would direct these types of uses to urban areas with full municipal services, better access to streets and more access to hospitals and ambulances,” said Koopmans. “They (Social Betterment Properties International) didn’t consult with staff before they acquired the property and, therefore, they wouldn’t have known what the permitted uses were for that area,” she said. [..]

[..]According to the Town’s Planning Director, Barbara Koopmans, the application for a minor variance was denied because it doesn’t conform with the ‘group home type 2’ definition under which the company applied.

“This group home has a number of criteria, deals with a specific amount of residents, licensing issues, supervision and so on. In our opinion as planning staff, the facility does not closely fit with the definition,” she said.

One of the conditions to be classified as a ‘group home type 2’ is for it to be located on a major arterial road. Since Milburough Line is a rural area, it lacks access to services that would be essential for this type of facility, she explained.

“We would direct these types of uses to urban areas with full municipal services, better access to streets and more access to hospitals and ambulances,” said Koopmans. “They (Social Betterment Properties International) didn’t consult with staff before they acquired the property and, therefore, they wouldn’t have known what the permitted uses were for that area,” she said.

Qureshi said that there was no contact with Town staff because it was a “very small centre,” 10 people maximum, and would have “little to no impact on the community.”

The hearing on the controversy is scheduled to take place from March 30 to April 2. Aside from zoning issues, the company has made headlines in previous years for its “unconventional” approaches to treatment. In 2012, the Narconon Quebec location was shuttered after at least four clients were taken to hospital. According to a 2012 CBC media report, the company used lengthy sauna detox sessions and an excessive amount of vitamins to treat patients, as inspired by the teachings of Scientology.

This went against legal criteria for regulating Quebec’s rehab centres, as there was no medical supervision or scientific basis to the treatment, according to the CBC report. Qureshi said that the centre was shut down because of a change in the medical model of treating drug addiction in Quebec, which favoured drug replacement therapy instead of natural remedies.
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-st...going-to-omb-after-milton-application-denied/

(http://i60.tinypic.com/s5i8u8.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/v43t07.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2wqs4mb.jpg)

Make your opinion known to the muni board!
email: ontario.municipal.board@ontario.ca
online contact page: https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/english/ContactUs/ContactUs.html

Comment on the article
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-st...going-to-omb-after-milton-application-denied/

UPDATE:

Here is the definition Narconon is trying to get the planning committee to allow stretching to fit them
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GROUP HOME TYPE 2
Means a detached dwelling occupied by residents who live as a single housekeeping unit requiring specialized or group care, supervised on a daily basis, and which is licensed, approved or supervised, or funded by the Province of Ontario under any general or specialized Act and which shall be maintained and operated primarily for:
• Persons who require temporary care and transient or homeless persons; or
• Persons requiring treatment and rehabilitation for addiction to drugs or alcohol.
https://www.milton.ca/en/build/resources/zoning_text.pdf

Narconon is not licensed in Ontario
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on February 17, 2015, 13:40
They also have to stretch the occupancy limits for a type 2 group home:
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Qureshi said that there was no contact with Town staff because it was a “very small centre,” 10 people maximum, and would have “little to no impact on the community.”
The maximum for a type 2 group home is 8.
https://www.milton.ca/en/build/resources/By-law016-2014_UrbanArea_Text.pdf
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on April 03, 2015, 18:24
The OMB hearing was supposed to wrap up yesterday, but no update on the site yet. (No one would be working today.)

https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/english/eStatus/eStatus.html
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on April 03, 2015, 20:44
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on April 03, 2015, 22:31
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
Monday isn't a holiday. Where do they think they are, Quebec?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on April 04, 2015, 00:42
Over on WWP David Love said the OMB offices are closed until Apr 7th due to the Easter weekend.
Monday isn't a holiday. Where do they think they are, Quebec?

Could be. Where I live in the US local govt offices were closed today and will be open Moday, but county offices were open and will be closed Monday. Maybe OMB decided to take a break and close for both.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on May 04, 2015, 03:06
While waiting for the OMB, I was filling in some blanks like corporate info.

Category:Narconon Ontario (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Narconon_Ontario) (I'll probably rename that to Narconon Canada.)

When having a look at Narconon Incorporated (Canada), which as a charity has to file information with Canada Revenue Agency, I notice that there's barely any activity listed for 2013--a few thousand to keep it ticking and keep their charity status.

There's no mention of anything related to the failed 2013 attempt to open a Narconon in Hockley Valley. It's obvious that it's just a shell.

In the Milton attempt, the only players mentioned are SBPI and ABLE. Nothing on who their local Narconon entity is. Either it's all by SBPI (who doesn't file Form 990s) or they have a new entity that we don't know about yet.

Sidenote: In one story, there was a Tim Lomas, spokesman of ABLE.
Narconon rehab strikes out in second Ontario town (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/02/09/narconon-strikes-out-in-second-ontario-town.html) February 9, 2015, Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star

Really. And when did he stop being an OSA dirty-tricks operator?
https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology (https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology)
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 04, 2015, 18:32
While waiting for the OMB, I was filling in some blanks like corporate info.

Category:Narconon Ontario (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Narconon_Ontario) (I'll probably rename that to Narconon Canada.)

When having a look at Narconon Incorporated (Canada), which as a charity has to file information with Canada Revenue Agency, I notice that there's barely any activity listed for 2013--a few thousand to keep it ticking and keep their charity status.

There's no mention of anything related to the failed 2013 attempt to open a Narconon in Hockley Valley. It's obvious that it's just a shell.

In the Milton attempt, the only players mentioned are SBPI and ABLE. Nothing on who their local Narconon entity is. Either it's all by SBPI (who doesn't file Form 990s) or they have a new entity that we don't know about yet.

Sidenote: In one story, there was a Tim Lomas, spokesman of ABLE.
Narconon rehab strikes out in second Ontario town (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/02/09/narconon-strikes-out-in-second-ontario-town.html) February 9, 2015, Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star

Really. And when did he stop being an OSA dirty-tricks operator?
https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology (https://www.google.ca/?q=Tim Lomas scientology)


There is an active corporation with a location but I don't know if they are operating a facility at this location, in bold below.

Corporations Canada
Federal Corporation Information - 536296

Corporation Number
536296
Business Number (BN)
107760142RC0001
Governing Legislation
Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act - 2014-10-16

Corporate Name
NARCONON, INCORPORATED
Status
Active

Registered Office Address
8285 HORNBY ROAD
GEORGETOWN ON L7G 4S5
Canada

Note: Active NFP Act corporations are required to update this information. Changes are only legally effective when filed with Corporations Canada. A corporation key is required.
Directors
Minimum
3
Maximum
6
Directors

    ERNEST WILKENS
    266 GLENLAKE AVENUE
    TORONTO ON M6P 1G1
    Canada

    CORINE NIELSEN
    659 DOLPH STREET NORTH
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 2B5
    Canada

    LAWRENCE DENSMORE
    12 JELLICOE AVENUE
    ETOBICOKE ON M8W 1W1
    Canada

    BRAD MELNYCHUK
    8285 HORNBY ROAD
    GEORGETOWN ON L7G 4S5
    Canada

Note: Active NFP Act corporations are required to update director information (names, addresses, etc.) within 15 days of any change. A corporation key is required.

Annual Filings
Anniversary Date (MM-DD)
10-16
Date of Last Annual Meeting
Not Available

Annual Filing Period (MM-DD)
10-16 to 12-15
Type of Corporation
Not Available
Status of Annual Filings

    2015 - Not due

Corporate History
Corporate Name History

    1972-11-07 to Present
    NARCONON, INCORPORATED

Certificates and Filings

    Certificate of Continuance
    2014-10-16
    Previous jurisdiction: Canada Corporations Act - Part II (CCA-II)
https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=536296&V_TOKEN=1430778145183&crpNm=Narconon&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=

Narconon Ottawa Valley Inc. was dissolved by Canada in 2015
Quote
Annual Filing Period (MM-DD)
04-01 to 06-01
Type of Corporation
Not Available
Status of Annual Filings

    2014 - Overdue
    2013 - Overdue
    2012 - Overdue

Corporate History
Corporate Name History

    2007-06-21 to Present
    Narconon Ottawa Valley Inc.

    Incorporation
    2007-06-21
    Certificate of Dissolution
    2015-05-01

Status
Dissolved by Corporations Canada (s.222) on 2015-05-01
https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=4434536&V_TOKEN=1430778145183&crpNm=Narconon&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=

I do know of a home being used for the initial  book work in Ontario, and then they send them out to Narconon Freedom center for the sauna component on to complete from there. Unfortunately I do not have the details of the location but David Love may, as I sent the details to him over a year ago when I received a PM at Facebook about a guy whose wife did the program in both locations. The PMs I received were lost in a Facebook glitch when the husband deleted his account.

Re: Social Betterment Properties Int:

SBPI is not registered as a corp or foreign corp in Canada.  They are only the property owner of some Narconon facility locations. They do not run Narconon programs. They are a profit making corp, as far as I know.

In Canada, for the Hockley matter, they are ( like they are doing with Trout Run in Maryland ) using a Delaware profit making corp called West Coast Property Investments, Inc. when they apply for zoning related matters. 3rd degree of separation to keep officials away from the Narconon name.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for all you are doing!
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on May 06, 2015, 16:00
Narconon, Incorporated has fiddled with their address and directors since last September. (Now at Brad Melnychuk's place.)

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Federal Corporation Information - 536296
Corporation Number
536296
Business Number (BN)
107760142RC0001
Governing Legislation
Canada Corporations Act - Part II- 1972-11-07
Expand: See Important Note
Corporate Name
NARCONON, INCORPORATED
Status
Active
Registered Office Address

1221 KING ST. E.
CAMBRIGE ON N3H 3P9
Canada
Directors

Minimum
3
Maximum
3
Directors

    ERNEST WILKENS
    266 GLENLAKE AVE.
    TORONTO ON M6P 1G1
    Canada

    LAWRENCE DENSWORE
    12 JELLICOE
    TORONTO ON M8W 1W1
    Canada

    Z. BRAD
    1221 KING ST .E
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 3P9
    Canada

    CORINE NIELSEN
    659 DOLPH ST. N.
    CAMBRIDGE ON N3H 2B5
    Canada
From their charity listings (equivalent of Form 990s), in recent years, they've only done a few thousand $$ worth of their "drug education" stuff every year to keep it active. (I haven't dug back to earlier years yet. I wish they'd provide PDF output.) It's just a shell.

For their Trout Run effort, at least Narconon EUS is visible. For Ontario, they're trying to open Narconons without any Narconon legal entity in sight.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on May 06, 2015, 16:16
Aside: That John Haines / Addiction Canada non-Scientologist guy who moved into the old CLO Canada location at 19646 Kennedy Road in Caledon is having his problems, but Ontario doesn't seem very effective at enforcing anything against him.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/addiction-canada-ignores-government-orders-to-pay-ex-employees-1.3020956

It doesn't give me great confidence that Ontario would act against a Narconon if one ever gets open until they kill some people.

Still, I have to laugh. If CoS had kept the CLO Canada location, they could have moved in a Narconon without any zoning changes.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on June 16, 2015, 10:41
And I'm happily wrong! They busted Addiction Canada for having people claiming to be medical doctors.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/wild-west-of-addiction-treatment

I think I've found Narconon's next claimed certification:
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The website claims the organization is “fully accredited” and has been recognized with a World Accreditation Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence (WAATME) seal.

WAATME described itself last fall as a new accrediting organization and a subsidiary of Old West Healthcare Partners in Wyoming. Its website states addiction treatment providers can receive its “distinguished” seal of approval in “THREE EASY STEPS:” declare they are not funded or influenced by pharmaceutical companies, complete a 1.5-hour online course, and pay a fee.
WAATME WORRY?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: SocialTransparency on June 17, 2015, 12:18
And I'm happily wrong! They busted Addiction Canada for having people claiming to be medical doctors.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/wild-west-of-addiction-treatment

I think I've found Narconon's next claimed certification:
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The website claims the organization is “fully accredited” and has been recognized with a World Accreditation Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence (WAATME) seal.

WAATME described itself last fall as a new accrediting organization and a subsidiary of Old West Healthcare Partners in Wyoming. Its website states addiction treatment providers can receive its “distinguished” seal of approval in “THREE EASY STEPS:” declare they are not funded or influenced by pharmaceutical companies, complete a 1.5-hour online course, and pay a fee.
WAATME WORRY?
For $400.00 US dollars you can easily get accredited by WAATME.Looks as though they or whomever is running this leans somewhat towards non pharmacological treatment or at the very least not being influenced by pharmaceutical companies. Weird stuff.

I can find nothing on Old West Healthcare Partners. Anybody know what the deal is with this organization?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on June 17, 2015, 18:26
Here's the rigorous criteria for WAATME. I would not characterize it as an accreditation. It's more like a certification that providers are not affiliated or influenced by pharma.

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GET MY ACCREDITATION
Accreditation may be achieved in any order

1. Sign & Send a WAATME evidentiary declaration confirming as an Addiction Treatment Provider you are NOT funded, owned or influenced by a pharmaceutical corporation

Download WAATME Declaration for U.S.

Download WAATME Declaration outside the U.S.

SUBMIT TO: forms@waatme.com

2. Complete WAATME one and a half hour CEU accreditation course online

3. Pay annual dues of less than a cup of coffee per day based on your tier category

Three Easy Steps You Eliminate:

    1. No on-site visits
    2. No costly accreditation fees or heavy fines
    3. No waiting up to one year for approval


An entire 1.5 hours of continuing education! I can't find anything on Old West Healthcare Partners, either. Could this be an accreditation scam?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on June 17, 2015, 19:50
An entire 1.5 hours of continuing education! I can't find anything on Old West Healthcare Partners, either. Could this be an accreditation scam?
It seems pretty cheesy on the face of it, plus there's no "Old West Healthcare Partners" registered in Wyoming.

https://wyobiz.wy.gov/business/filingsearch.aspx

Here's their LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/company/waatme-org---world-accreditation-addiction-treatment-mark-of-excellence-%C2%A9

Founded: 2014, ah yes, a long established reputable firm...
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: ethercat on June 17, 2015, 22:05
Here's the rigorous criteria for WAATME. I would not characterize it as an accreditation. It's more like a certification that providers are not affiliated or influenced by pharma.

Quote
GET MY ACCREDITATION
Accreditation may be achieved in any order

1. Sign & Send a WAATME evidentiary declaration confirming as an Addiction Treatment Provider you are NOT funded, owned or influenced by a pharmaceutical corporation

Download WAATME Declaration for U.S.

Download WAATME Declaration outside the U.S.

SUBMIT TO: forms@waatme.com

2. Complete WAATME one and a half hour CEU accreditation course online

3. Pay annual dues of less than a cup of coffee per day based on your tier category

Three Easy Steps You Eliminate:

    1. No on-site visits
    2. No costly accreditation fees or heavy fines
    3. No waiting up to one year for approval


An entire 1.5 hours of continuing education! I can't find anything on Old West Healthcare Partners, either. Could this be an accreditation scam?

Sounds scientological to me.   O-\eh?
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on June 18, 2015, 00:03
Sounds scientological to me.   O-\eh?
As I've learned by checking Addiction Canada for any trace of Narconon and failing, CoS doesn't have a monopoly on scam.

Addiction Canada might even be faking that accreditation -- just like their "doctors".
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on June 18, 2015, 04:07
The only thing I get searching for "World Accreditation Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence" or "Old West Healthcare Partners" is the WAATME web page and stories on the scam in Canada, and nothing in the Wyoming business search. A lot of these woo merchants register their businesses in Nevada, but that sight is down for maint right now, so I'll check again later.

Edit to add: According to their 'LinkedIn' page, WAATME's "headquarters" is located at 220 W. Pearl St, Jackson WY 83001.
A quick check on that address shows it is one of two US Post Office locations for Jackson. Apparently most of the businesses in Jackson use PO boxes at that facility, but unlike WAATME, they list the box they use.

Also found a list of active Business Licenses for Jackson at http://townofjackson.com/files/2714/2324/0857/business_license_web_page-Jan_2015.pdf and there's nothing for WAATME or Old West Healthcare Partners.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on June 18, 2015, 19:17
Okay, checked the business listings for Wyoming, Nevada, and California, and can't find anything for WAATME or Old West Healthcare Partners except the info on the WAATME related pages and the articales on the scam in Canada.

I also did a quick check in the USPTO TESS system, and neither "WAATME", nor "World Association of Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence" come up as registered trademarks.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: SocialTransparency on June 19, 2015, 14:49
Okay, checked the business listings for Wyoming, Nevada, and California, and can't find anything for WAATME or Old West Healthcare Partners except the info on the WAATME related pages and the articales on the scam in Canada.

I also did a quick check in the USPTO TESS system, and neither "WAATME", nor "World Association of Addiction Treatment Mark of Excellence" come up as registered trademarks.
I dare say this is possibly a scam or illegal in some manner.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on June 19, 2015, 20:52
Ya think? I tried Wyoming's business search again just using the word 'Accreditation', and everything that came up was related to schools or education. Using 'Addiction' only got two started in 2014, one of which is 'INACTIVE'. The other appears to be an actual rehab, not an accreditation mill.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: BigBeard on June 20, 2015, 08:33
Just for jollies I clicked the "Get My Accreditation" link on the WAATME site an find you can do it in 3 easy steps:

1. Do the declaration you are not funded, owned, or influenced by a pharma compnay.
2. Take the "WAATME" on line course. Clickining this link takes you to https://ed4direct.ed4online.com/professional-development-course/overprescribing-substance-abuse-and-elder-care which doesn't appear to have anything to do with WAATME.
3. Pay the dues.

After reading through their stuff several times, it looks like all the WAATME seal means is you're not involved with "Big Pharma". In spite of the impressive sounding name, it doesn't appear to have anything to do with whether you actually know what you're doing as far as being a rehab facility. Although it will probably impress the rubes, and insurance companies according to their web site.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on June 20, 2015, 09:22
After reading through their stuff several times, it looks like all the WAATME seal means is you're not involved with "Big Pharma". In spite of the impressive sounding name, it doesn't appear to have anything to do with whether you actually know what you're doing as far as being a rehab facility. Although it will probably impress the rubes, and insurance companies according to their web site.

Exactly. The accreditation is meaningless. It's just something to slap on a website to appear legit.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 02, 2015, 14:55
While waiting for the OMB, I was filling in some blanks like corporate info. [..]
Category:Narconon Ontario (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Narconon_Ontario) (I'll probably rename that to Narconon Canada.

I figured I would update this thread, as it's been nearly a month since the OMB denied Social Betterment Properties International's appeal to get a variance on its Milton, Ontario property so a Narconon 'group home' could  be operated there.  Readers can find that decision on your site at this link.

Ontario Municipal Board  CASE NO(S).: PL141325    ISSUE DATE: June 2, 2015
DECISION DELIVERED BY SUSAN de AVELLAR SCHILLER, VICE-CHAIR  AND ORDER OF
THE BOARD

http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/images/4/4a/Pl141325-jun-02-2015.pdf 

It is well worth a read. The Vice Chair pretty much decimated their application and it's reasoning. Its a terrific example of the church getting busted for believing it is above the law and making up stuff as it goes along, thinking that is all they have to do to get what they want.   Point by point their arguments are shut down
 
Here are more articles and information about the decision and what was going on that lead up to it.

Media Release: Scientology’s appeal case to open Narconon in Ontario dismissed ( read link for details )
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2zqa5jm.jpg)
http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?module=News&func=display&sid=16230 (http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?module=News&func=display&sid=16230)

Town of Milton’s denial of scientology-based facility upheld by OMB

Milton Canadian Champion/June 10, 2015  By Rachael Williams
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A recent appeal to the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) to establish a Scientology-based drug and rehabilitation facility on Milburough Line has been denied. [..]
http://culteducation.com/group/1284-scientology/28627-town-of-milton-s-denial-of-scientology-based-facility-upheld-by-omb.html (http://culteducation.com/group/1284-scientology/28627-town-of-milton-s-denial-of-scientology-based-facility-upheld-by-omb.html)

OMB website status and decision: E-Status Case Details
Property Address    Case Description    Status    Case Number
7651 Milburough Line   7651 Milburough Line, rehab centre   Open   PL141325

Hearing and Decision Information
Hearing Type    Start Date    Hearing Status    Start Time    Hearing Location    Decision Type    Decision Number
Hearing   30 Mar 2015      10:00 AM   Municipal Building (Milton), Council Chambers, 150 Mary Street Milton ON L9T 6Z5   Decision   20150002(PDF, WORD)
https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL141325

Gotta love these community people! The Town of Milton in Ontario, Canada decided to stand it's ground and fight to defend it's decision when SBPI appealed:

The Corporation of the TOWN OF MILTON
Report To: Committee of the Whole
From: Barbara Koopmans, Director of Planning and Development
Date: January 26, 2015
Report No: PD-001-15
Subject:
Appeal to the Ontario Municipal Board of Decisions of the Committee of Adjustment and Consent (Files: A1-14/035/M & A1-14/036//M – Social Betterment Properties International)

THAT Milton Council authorize legal counsel and Town staff to attend the Ontario Municipal Board hearing to
defend the decision of the Town of Milton Committee of Adjustment and Consent with respect to Minor Variance Applications A1-14/035/M & A1-14/036/M for the property known municipally as 7651 Milburough Line (Social Betterment Properties International)
https://www.milton.ca/MeetingDocuments/Council/agendas2015/rpts2015/PD-001-15%20Appeal%20to%20OMB%20Denial%20Narcanon.pdf (https://www.milton.ca/MeetingDocuments/Council/agendas2015/rpts2015/PD-001-15%20Appeal%20to%20OMB%20Denial%20Narcanon.pdf)

SBPI and Narconon must hate how this works! :
About the Committee of Adjustment and Consent

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The Committee of Adjustment and Consent (COA) is composed of five Milton residents who are appointed by Council for a four-year term. The Committee generally meets once each month to hear applications. These meetings are open to the public and anyone may attend to speak to the Committee about a particular application. The Committee members listen to submissions, discuss any issues or concerns and make a decision. In some cases, the Committee's approval comes with attached conditions.

The Committee is authorized by the Planning Act to consider applications for:

    Minor variances from the provisions of the Zoning By-law
    Extensions, enlargements or variations of existing, legal non-conforming uses
    Land division (separating a new lot, adding land to an existing lot). Note: In Halton Region, undisputed
    consents for land division can be approved by the Planning Director rather than the COA. [..]
http://www.milton.ca/en/build/committeeofadjustment.asp#CommitteeInfo


Kudos to the Town of Milton and the OMB for doing what is right
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: DeathHamster on May 24, 2016, 11:28
Not a Narconon, but many of the exact same problems as I've posted up thread, plus they moved into the former CLO Canada location:

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/05/04/addiction-clinic-owner-charged-with-61-million-fraud.html
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Addiction clinic owner charged with $6.1 million fraud

John Haines, CEO and owner of Addiction Canada is facing five charges.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/05/23/ex-patients-talk-about-their-time-at-addiction-canada-centres.html
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Ex-patients talk about their time at Addiction Canada centres

Reviews are mixed for detox chain whose owner faces fraud, trafficking and money-laundering charges after OPP probe.
If a Narconon did open in Ontario, I think law enforcement would know how to handle them.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: mefree on May 25, 2016, 19:44
If a Narconon did open in Ontario, I think law enforcement would know how to handle them.

Good! It's a different situation in the U.S. for the most part. Some state agencies are better funded and resourced than others. Rehab always seems to get the short end of the stick.
Title: Re: Narconon trying to move into Ontario
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 01, 2017, 01:45
I'm sorry I missed this. Good work, DeathHamster!

I hope Haines gets the point that karma can be a big bi*ch.

It's scary on the fake credentials and the regs being to weak to enforce, but maybe others contemplating a scam like this in Canada will think twice after the what happened with Haines.