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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon in Michigan => Topic started by: SocialTransparency on December 12, 2012, 11:33

Title: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on December 12, 2012, 11:33
 (http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy75/sbysbys/wick.jpg)

 I in no way am attempting to disparage this individual in any fashion, yet time and again I come across those that have had personal experiences with this gentlemen and his organization. I would love to give him the benefit of doubt as a person wanting to help his fellow man via his rehab services. Alas, I continually come up empty handed. In order to understand this individual I need to take into consideration the merit or metal of the man and the hows and whys he is where he is.

 Scientology plays a major part in how this individual acts and reacts towards his fellow man! As I have learned from experience, scientology and its use within the rehabilitation industry via Narconon International lends itself to replicated behavior. Meaning as these individuals whom hold license and operate these rehab facilities must adhere to the scientology party line so to speak.

 This has become quite evident as more information comes out about Narconon and the ease in which we the general public observe mirrored behavior with these facilities on a national level. It appears from research done by others each of these facilities are captained by a scientologist, hence the predictability of behavior. I have come to realize there are a very small group on players here. These same players come up in many a discussion. Those same players have helmed these facilities for some time now.

 Though I dearly want to give Mr.Wickstrom the benefit of the doubt, I am seeing a tremendous amount of similarities between his operations and that of other narconons. This does not make for a comfortable feeling on my end.

 I want to know as much as possible about this individual. Factual information that is. If Mr. Wickstrom or his agents would like to add to the discussion, I am more than willing to listen!

Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on December 12, 2012, 13:28
aka Kevin Little....  alias he uses/used when regging as his real name was too easy to search for bad PR.  Need I say more?
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: CoolHand on December 12, 2012, 16:27
I was in the sauna with Per at Chilocco in 1998.  He was sweating profusely and scratching, snorting and grunting non-stop.  It was one of the most annoying experiences of my life!  I was also sweating profusely, but sitting calmly trying to collect my thoughts. 

After that I did not have as much contact with him as people who worked with him directly, but was present at the grand opening of Stone Hawk in 2003, saw him at several Narconon Executive Director's conferences, and of course dealt with him occasionally when I did referrals for Narconon. 

He is a scam artist.  He belongs in Scientology as it is the only place that makes him feel important while ripping people off - a status that he has paid seven figures for.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on January 07, 2013, 22:52
 Bump cause for some strange reason this individual gives me some really bad vibes.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on January 08, 2013, 07:51
Bump cause for some strange reason this individual gives me some really bad vides.

Same here, ST. He seems most interested in money, material possessions and status.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on January 08, 2013, 07:56
Bump cause for some strange reason this individual gives me some really bad vides.

Same here, ST. He seems most interested in money, material possessions and status.

Spot on!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 08, 2013, 08:37
Well, all the comments got through, lol
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/per-wickstrom/addiction-recovery_b_2132044.html
Quote

sA-10
 
12:01 AM on 01/01/2013
Not even written by Per. Guaranteed.
 
as79669
 
05:25 PM on 11/27/2012
I have read the complaints and none of them were even similar to the experience I had at A Forever Recovery. Mr. Wickstrom’s story motivates me as a recovered addict. I have got my life back together and now I am going to back to school. Congrats to him and everyone who rises above their challenges to do great things!
 
 
Yu-kai -Chou
 
10:18 PM on 11/21/2012
I don't say this a lot, but Per is one of the people I respect the most. I think it's respectable that he picks himself back up from a rut. I think it's respectable that he is always telling those around him to impact others positively, despite all the bashers out there. He's not perfect, but he tries his best, and the post here is simply to encourage others to try their best too, no matter how low they fall.

I've met Per personally before, and I only have good things to say about this man. I'm a regular guest speaker/lecturer at Stanford University and other organizations (look me up). Would you rather listen to the person who's actually met Per and has a real face/reputation, or anonymous people who's never heard a word from Per?
 
Momma2012
 
09:31 PM on 11/21/2012
You all have no idea what you are talking about. These programs are not a Narconon program. If you knew what the programs are you would know they are not a Narconon program. A Forever Recovery and Best Drug Rehabilitation are different from Narconon. You may find some complaints on RipoffReport like Mary said but you will also find more people living today because they are no longer addicted to drugs. I sent my loved ones there Mary. They became drug free from the program. Call and talk to someone there and get educated. You may not like Per...but his desire to be in the treatment industry has saved many lives. I promise you that. Too bad you all can not get to actually know him as a human being instead of sitting in judgment continuously. You might be surprised to find out he is a good person wanting to get people to live their life again.
 
sA-10
 
07:32 PM on 12/31/2012
Per has actually never ran one person through a treatment program. Did you know that? He's the entrepeneur remember? He owns the buildings and websites and his main motivation is $$$$$$. He'd rather keep the money than pay for things like, electricity, food, taxes. He'll blame it on Kate though. check out Vince Daniels....
 
ComandanteRX
 
03:09 PM on 01/01/2013
1. Per is a scientologist.

2. Per is in the rehab business for the MONEY ONLY.

3. Per does in fact use scientology teachings within his rehabs.

4. Per DOES pay ABLE to use scientology teachings wihin his rehabs.
 
JustCallMeMary
 
08:55 PM on 11/18/2012
I don't even know where to begin to review this self promoting baloney. Readers, just google search "Per Wickstrom" and "Narconon Stone Hawk" and go to ripoffreport . com to see the multiple complaints about him, the Narconon program he made a lot of money off of (which many people got ripped off). And how he ran the place into the ground. And while there search for his latest scams, "Best Drug Rehabilitation Services" ( Best Drug Rehab Services) and " A Forever Recovery". These are Narconon programs in disguise. Narconon is Scientology. Many consistent complaints can be found on RipOffReport. You don't want to send your loved one there for sure.
 
 
Per Wickstrom
 
05:10 PM on 11/22/2012
Thanks for the comment, despite being unnecessarily aggressive. I understand that there are anonymous critics out there that would be delighted if I failed, but the truth is that I have every intent to do my best to save lives.

This is a business of making people stop doing what they don't want to stop on. The ones that do stop thank us at the end, but the ones that decide to not go along with our program despite our best efforts get upset and post negatively about my efforts to help the world, as well as me personally.

The truth of the matter is my story is real, and I was truly helped by Narconon. It worked for me when nothing else did. However Best Drug Rehabilitation is not a Narconon. It uses many different treatment methods, from all walks of life, all different Religions, and philosophies, which provides a holistic atmosphere meant to help an individual through the unique method that will be most effective.

I think it is much more constructive to think of better ways to help addicts if you disagree with my approach instead of criticizing, because the thousands of families that I have help mended is very real, and until the critics come up with something better, I will continue to change lives with the approach that I have seen work again and again.

Thank you.

- Per Wickstrom
 
 
JustCallMeMary
 
10:20 PM on 12/30/2012
You are so full of baloney....

Readers can get more information and read all the complaints people have about Per Wickstrom and his Narconon based programs by visiting Reaching For The Tipping Point Forum reaching4 (dot) info
 
sA-10
 
07:35 PM on 12/31/2012
If you were so helped by Narconon then why did you continue to use alcohol. How many times did your partner look for you when you were on a binder?
 
 
Bewareofscams
 
10:32 AM on 11/18/2012
Buyer beware! Narconon is facing several lawsuits, involving a string of deaths and other incidents, in Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, California and elsewhere. Narconon is a scientology front group.

More info at www.narconon-exposed.org/ and http://www.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/   
 
 
Addiction Analyst
 
09:50 AM on 11/16/2012
Great Article! I was a leader in the alcohol and other drug field for years before I retired and I reviewed over 150 rehab centers in the US and Europe. I can vouch for what Mr. Wickstrom is saying in his article. Narconon is the most effective treatment modality available. Across the board, their graduates make more significant and positive changes in their lives than any other type of treatment. Alcoholics and drug addicted persons graduate from their program believing in themselves and being able to demonstrate their strength through their work and their higher level of ethics. It is a very functional program and many, including a loved one in my family that was diagnosed by three other centers as being incurable, are doing well and thankful that they found the tools that work in repairing their lives.
Mac McGregor LADC, DBAE, IC&RC
 
 
JustCallMeMary
 
08:50 PM on 11/18/2012
All anyone has to do to know what you do and did in the past, William Kent McGregor. is to Google search your name and your history, especially as a social worker. Never paid that judgement, heh?

I see you added the IC&RC as a title. There is no such licensing by that acronym.. IC&RC stands for International Certification & Reciprocity Consortium. They IC&RC sets the internationally recognized standards for seven reciprocal credentials, NONE of which you hold.
Alcohol & Drug Counselor (ADC)
Advanced Alcohol & Drug Counselor (AADC)
Clinical Supervisor (CS)
Prevention Specialist (PS)
Certified Criminal Justice Addictions Professional (CCJP)
Certified Co-Occurring Disorders Professional (CCDP)
Certified Co-Occurring Disorders Professional Diplomate (CCDPD)

I see you finally stopped using the false licensing MAC title you used on the internet sometimes. Now it's IC&RC? Ha! Perhaps I shall inform them as I did with the other organizations on your false use of the MAC license.
 
JustCallMeMary
 
09:07 AM on 12/31/2012
Cat got your tongue?

IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO

Opinion Number: 1998-NMCA-017

Filing Date: November 12, 1997

Docket No. 17,116

KATHLEEN ECKHARDT,

Plaintiff-Appellant/Cross-Appellee,

v.

CHARTER HOSPITAL OF ALBUQUERQUE,
INC., A NEW MEXICO CORPORATION,

Defendant-Appellee/Cross-Appellant,

WILLIAM KENT MCGREGOR,

Defendant,

AND COURTNEY COOK,

Defendant-Appellee.

[..]"This appeal and cross appeal arise out of a civil action filed by Kathleen Eckhardt (Plaintiff) against Charter Hospital of Albuquerque (Charter), William Kent McGregor (McGregor), and Courtney Cook (Cook) for damages sustained as a result of a sexual assault on Plaintiff by McGregor on July 16, 1987, in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Plaintiff alleged that she was assaulted while she was receiving counseling from McGregor, a certified social worker, at the offices of the Charter Counseling Center of Santa Fe (CCC). Cook was the director of the CCC, a facility owned by Charter. The trial court entered a default judgment against McGregor, and he is not a party to this appeal." [..]

[..] Plaintiff appeals from the trial court's order granting a directed verdict on her claims for punitive damages, wrongful disclosure, and violation of the Unfair Practices Act. Plaintiff also challenges the trial court's disclosure to the jury of a $1 million default judgment award entered against McGregor." [..]
http://www.supremecourt.nm.org/pastopinion/VIEW/98ca-017.html

More info
http://tinyurl.com/baygpu6   
 
 sA-10
 
07:37 PM on 12/31/2012
Coming from the guy who gave 20 plus people the answers to their CCDC certification test and is a Scientologist. Doesnt your wife Yette work at the flagship Narconon in OK. Can you say CONFLICT OF INTEREST?
 
CoasttoCoast5
 
04:52 PM on 01/01/2013
I say, this documentation is impressing. Always good to see another side so one can see the truth of the matter or of the person. Thank you.
 

Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on January 08, 2013, 09:13
I posted 4 comments that didnt get through >:(

Oh well, looks like the others did a fine job of exposing his self promoting BS.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 08, 2013, 09:18
I posted 4 comments that didnt get through >:(

Oh well, looks like the others did a fine job of exposing his self promoting BS.

Perhaps I didn't get them all. Check all the comment buttons because their system of showing comments is weird.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on January 08, 2013, 09:37
I checked for a couple of days.  They got axed.  Not sure why.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 08, 2013, 10:20
If you are using an anonymizer to hide your IP address, that might be why. PM me what you want posted :)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 10, 2013, 20:34
BUMP.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 10, 2013, 20:55
http://www.youtube.com/user/BestDrugRehabVideos?feature=watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDEQ7oBuO0

http://aforeverrecoveryscam.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/990s-index.html

http://aforeverrecoveryscam.wordpress.com/tag/per-wickstrom/
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 10, 2013, 21:51
ST, there is a tremendous amount of information on Per Wickstrom and his former facility,  Narconon Stone Hawk over at ARS and on DAve Touretzky's sites

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/topics
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on February 10, 2013, 22:59
He can hire all the PR and SEO companies in the world to try and make him look good and get his sites on the first page of Google.  No matter.  He cant hide from the police and the insurance fraud investigators.   8:O8P|() ||||o||||
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on February 10, 2013, 23:32
He can hire all the PR and SEO companies in the world to try and make him look good and get his sites on the first page of Google.  No matter.  He cant hide from the police and the insurance fraud investigators.   8:O8P|() ||||o||||

 |true|confirmed|
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 11, 2013, 19:23
 The first step in my humble opinion in gaining information on a particular entity which is licensed and overseen by the State of Michigan,s DCH would be here.

http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-35299_63294_63302_28142-173543--,00.html

 To understand how to request information on a drug and alcohol facility via FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) within the State of Michigan one should read this PDF and pay particular attention to the contact information on page 16.

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdch/FOIA_Policy_and_Procedure_331162_7.pdf

 To request physical hard copies or a CD if offered on complaints,inspection reports etc, on a given facility be sure to state what time frame you would like those requested documents to cover. In my humble opinion that request should be made from the date the facility was licensed to operate per state guide lines to the actual date of your submitted request.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on February 13, 2013, 20:50
Trying to get enough posts to go on to the 2nd page. 
I've begun to hate coming to this thread because of that disgusting photo in the first post.   :-OP=\
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 13, 2013, 20:55
Trying to get enough posts to go on to the 2nd page. 
I've begun to hate coming to this thread because of that disgusting photo in the first post.   :-OP=\

 3((:
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BMF on February 13, 2013, 21:33
Every time i look at it i hear "Oompa, loompa, doompity, do, ive got a-nother rehab for you"
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 17, 2013, 09:01
Looks like someone gained a little weight since last time I saw him.  Might be time to get into that boxing gym and do some of those "professional" boxing moves.  I literally laughed so hard when I saw him claim to be a professional boxer.  He also claimed to be Kevin Little, who seems to be a member of this site. 

I used to be an astronaut too.  Ive got a "bridge" in FL to sell you.  It goes to nowhere.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 06, 2013, 09:38
 It would be wise for Per to pay attention to Gary Smith and those around him very carefully.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 06, 2013, 10:12
Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/wickstromPer_NarcononStonehawk--1_zps51acc015.jpg)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 06, 2013, 10:26
Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/wickstromPer_NarcononStonehawk--1_zps51acc015.jpg)

 Appearance? Not a topic within my sector of the universe. Actions? Most definitely!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 06, 2013, 13:56
Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/wickstromPer_NarcononStonehawk--1_zps51acc015.jpg)

 Appearance? Not an topic within my sector of the universe. Actions? Most definitely!

You must have missed the posts where it's shown that he's pushing alternative health and skin care products, sponsoring modeling shows to get donations, and starting a boxing school for young kids through his facility programs.

 
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 06, 2013, 14:48
Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/wickstromPer_NarcononStonehawk--1_zps51acc015.jpg)

 Appearance? Not an topic within my sector of the universe. Actions? Most definitely!

You must have missed the posts where it's shown that he's pushing alternative health and skin care products, sponsoring modeling shows to get donations, and starting a boxing school for young kids through his facility programs.
Yes. I did not know this guy had jumped onto various snake oil salesmen ventures. ::)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 06, 2013, 16:24
he's doing it in hopes these other ventures will come up when one searches for BDR, AFR, Per Wickrod, Kevin Little or whatever.  A pile of crap comes up when one even thinks of these terms, when one inputs them into search engines, the internet weatherman gets called cause a shitstorm is about to hit.

Sorry, just kidding.  He's doing it for SEO.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on April 04, 2013, 23:03
Per hob=nobbing with the celebs: http://youtu.be/_-WwYqxeuJ0

For any that are curious about Pachas Pajamas: https://pachaspajamas.com/
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 10oriocookies on April 04, 2013, 23:50
Leave it to Per to sound like an idiot.  He said "it's prelavent".
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on April 05, 2013, 07:47
Leave it to Per to sound like an idiot.  He said "it's prelavent".

I heard that too!  3((:
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 05, 2013, 07:56
Football Great Jim Brown "Interviewed" By Per Wickstrom...And Doesn't Kick His Ass!
A Forever Recovery and Per Wickstrom celebrate the launch of "Imagination Heals" in the Wilshire Room of the Beverly Hilton
http://glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2013/04/football-great-jim-brown-interviewed-by.html

http://archive.org/details/AForeverRecoveryPerWickstromInterviewJimBrown

http://www.amer-i-can.org/about/about.html

Does his wife know that Per is  scientologist and that BDR is a scientology based program? Ummmm
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Blametomcruise on April 06, 2013, 17:38
Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on April 06, 2013, 21:40
Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!

Hello, and welcome to Reaching for the Tipping Point. 

I have changed your username and your signature because we really don't like to imply any violence on here - it's not what we're about, and it puts the forum in danger.  If you don't like what I changed it to, feel free to say what you prefer and I'll change it to your suggestion, as long as it doesn't incite hatred or suggest violence or criminal behavior.  You will still need to log in with your original name, though.

Now that that's out of the way, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about your experiences.   :)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on April 06, 2013, 21:43
Glad you survived the Narconon scam, Mr. Cruise.

 Welcome to Tipping Point!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 06, 2013, 22:23
Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!

Hello, and welcome to Reaching for the Tipping Point. 

I have changed your username and your signature because we really don't like to imply any violence on here - it's not what we're about, and it puts the forum in danger.  If you don't like what I changed it to, feel free to say what you prefer and I'll change it to your suggestion, as long as it doesn't incite hatred or suggest violence or criminal behavior.  You will still need to log in with your original name, though.

Now that that's out of the way, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about your experiences.   :)




 OO_OO |ooops|
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 07, 2013, 13:38
Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!

Hi and welcome to the forum!!

Hope to hear more from you about your experiences at Stone Hawk.

Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: CoolHand on April 08, 2013, 16:55
This shows the length that Phil Hart went to in order to protect Per Wickstrom, as well as how important money and Scientology are compared to doing the right thing.  It was CC'd to the Narconon Int's Director of Legal Affairs and Administration Supervisor, the Executive Director of Narconon East US and the Vice President of ABLE Int (not in that order):

Quote
From: Phil Hart <ednni @ *****>
Subject: Re: A Forever Recovery
To: "Lucas A. Catton"
Cc: xorlandi @ *****, y4yvon @ *****, rmq88 @ *****, ocarcabascio @ *****
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 1:20 PM

Dear Luke;

    Thanks for the report. Just to fill the vacuum Per has paid back over 2 million in debts stone hawk incurred. I believe all his regges or most of them are on lines in the Org as are a number of his staff. His withdrawal unit is learning assists on line at Scn.org. He has kept FC alive  literally by paying for marketing and creating reaches and by helping their regges constantly. He wrote a report back on this current cycle you presented and my Div 1 is looking into it. In fact FC would be done were it not for his efforts. FC has not paid rent in the last 12 months except for one time and again they would have been out on the street had Per not covered for them. He has every vested interest in the world to get cycles into FC and has had to cover mortgage payments, legal bills,leases, and countless other bills by whatever means he could come up with. He just got the back payroll taxes (900K) settled and reduced to about 600K for Stonehawk. He paid for his own sec checks which you dismiss out of hand and with no knowledge about and just assume the worst frankly. You imply that he is NCG or assume so. This was 300hours worth at AOLA with excellent gains. Factually he CSW'd 3 times to open A Forever as a NN First step which was denied because of his connection to Kate which is now nearly handled at great personal expense. This is factually not as you assume that he is just ripping off cycles for his own personal pocketbook. This is not to say that his regges have never been out ethics or neither has Per but your implication that he is being protected by my Org while true is not true in the sense you  think. He is protected because he produces constantly and  has saved the  NN in  Michigan. This again is not to say he did  not contribute to many of the problems we had back when but he has taken responsibility for all of it. The ED of the BC  Org has done a number of seminars in the A Forever facility and they have as many of their staff on service in the Org as the NN does so it is slowly becoming an LRH delivery unit even though not licensed by us. Also despite the crash of the place under Kate, Per has an overall great production records with NN. Are there problems? - yes- but your report really assumes the worst of everything and lacks a ton of data  so I hope this fills the vacuum a bit. We have looked into cycles before and in at least one case I remember FC just mis handled the start so badly that they lost it to A Forever.You can send whatever you want to RTC reports officer to answer your last question. OSA is very familiar with the scene there and a CSW is on lines to handle further. You can also go to DCA ABLE Int Gwenda Byrne as she would be external from Dept 20. Call me if you have any questions.  ML Phil
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on April 08, 2013, 17:35
Wow.  That just shows the intertwined nature so well.  Anyone that still doubts the connection between the "church" and Narconon, just send them a copy of this.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 10oriocookies on April 08, 2013, 18:12
Lots of docs on old Per and Phil.  Old chums they are. 
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 15, 2013, 22:36
Funny story by Miss Fortune, lol
Per Wickstrom: From Car Salesman to Addiction Entrepreneur

http://glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2013/04/per-wickstrom-from-car-salesman-to.html
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on August 30, 2013, 23:47
Per Wickstrom schools us on...(brace yourselves).....HONESTY.


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Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: wynot on August 31, 2013, 10:30
Interesting that the purpose of honesty to Per is to get respect and maintain profitability. ::) Certainly not just for the sake of righteousness - a 'ness' you won't read much about in Hubbard's writings...

'til next time;
wynot
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on August 31, 2013, 10:55
An old friend defined honesty as the "lack of intent to deceive." 
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on September 01, 2013, 10:04
Interesting that the purpose of honesty to Per is to get respect and maintain profitability. ::) Certainly not just for the sake of righteousness - a 'ness' you won't read much about in Hubbard's writings...

And to get "people to do what you say". 
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: source on November 05, 2013, 16:40
This shows the length that Phil Hart went to in order to protect Per Wickstrom, as well as how important money and Scientology are compared to doing the right thing.  It was CC'd to the Narconon Int's Director of Legal Affairs and Administration Supervisor, the Executive Director of Narconon East US and the Vice President of ABLE Int (not in that order):

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From: Phil Hart <ednni @ *****>
Subject: Re: A Forever Recovery
To: "Lucas A. Catton"
Cc: xorlandi @ *****, y4yvon @ *****, rmq88 @ *****, ocarcabascio @ *****
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 1:20 PM

Dear Luke;

    Thanks for the report. Just to fill the vacuum Per has paid back over 2 million in debts stone hawk incurred. I believe all his regges or most of them are on lines in the Org as are a number of his staff. His withdrawal unit is learning assists on line at Scn.org. He has kept FC alive  literally by paying for marketing and creating reaches and by helping their regges constantly. He wrote a report back on this current cycle you presented and my Div 1 is looking into it. In fact FC would be done were it not for his efforts. FC has not paid rent in the last 12 months except for one time and again they would have been out on the street had Per not covered for them. He has every vested interest in the world to get cycles into FC and has had to cover mortgage payments, legal bills,leases, and countless other bills by whatever means he could come up with. He just got the back payroll taxes (900K) settled and reduced to about 600K for Stonehawk. He paid for his own sec checks which you dismiss out of hand and with no knowledge about and just assume the worst frankly. You imply that he is NCG or assume so. This was 300hours worth at AOLA with excellent gains. Factually he CSW'd 3 times to open A Forever as a NN First step which was denied because of his connection to Kate which is now nearly handled at great personal expense. This is factually not as you assume that he is just ripping off cycles for his own personal pocketbook. This is not to say that his regges have never been out ethics or neither has Per but your implication that he is being protected by my Org while true is not true in the sense you  think. He is protected because he produces constantly and  has saved the  NN in  Michigan. This again is not to say he did  not contribute to many of the problems we had back when but he has taken responsibility for all of it. The ED of the BC  Org has done a number of seminars in the A Forever facility and they have as many of their staff on service in the Org as the NN does so it is slowly becoming an LRH delivery unit even though not licensed by us. Also despite the crash of the place under Kate, Per has an overall great production records with NN. Are there problems? - yes- but your report really assumes the worst of everything and lacks a ton of data  so I hope this fills the vacuum a bit. We have looked into cycles before and in at least one case I remember FC just mis handled the start so badly that they lost it to A Forever.You can send whatever you want to RTC reports officer to answer your last question. OSA is very familiar with the scene there and a CSW is on lines to handle further. You can also go to DCA ABLE Int Gwenda Byrne as she would be external from Dept 20. Call me if you have any questions.  ML Phil

I don't know how I skipped reading this email until now, but it's filled with so much information.  But the first thing that stands out is:

It's interesting how Phil Hart is stating that the ED of the church of scientology in Battle Creek is doing scientology seminars at A Forever Recovery and that they have as many staff at AFR doing scientology courses as Narconon Freedom Center...and that a forever recovery is slowly becoming an LRH delivery center.

I wonder how many of these staff are pushed into scientology in the first place or whether the vultures just wait for them to relapse and offer them a way back to work if they only sell their soul a few courses at a time at the church of scientology.

Of course they would probably just state that everyone "chooses" to go there without pressure. 

I must admit that I've had doubts as to how much scientology is going on at A Forever Recovery due to mixed reports.  But this is about as obvious as it gets.  Straight from the Phil's mouth.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on November 11, 2013, 23:52
edit..
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Escapee on November 14, 2013, 17:40
hollistic ha ha ha ha so only vitamins and if you take an ibuprofen...xenu help you get in that sauna and sweat it out!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on May 22, 2014, 22:50
 Dear Per.

I know you are more than likely aware of these documents/complaints,but I thought relisting them here would aid the general public when considering the use of any services you Per Wickstrom may claim to provide.

 Enjoy.

 http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/foia-request-michigan-attorney-general-releases-complaints/#comment-588
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 22, 2014, 23:13
Dear Per.

I know you are more than likely aware of these documents/complaints,but I thought relisting them here would aid the general public when considering the use of any services you Per Wickstrom may claim to provide.

 Enjoy.

 http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/foia-request-michigan-attorney-general-releases-complaints/#comment-588

 3((:
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2014, 21:51
I got a notice from Twitter that someone else had tweeted the blog post directly to (at?) him. 

Hey, it needs to be added to the Best Drug Rehab (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10723.0.html) thread, too (done).  That one has 193,171 views.   :o
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 10oriocookies on May 23, 2014, 21:54
I got a notice from Twitter that someone else had tweeted the blog post directly to (at?) him. 

Hey, it needs to be added to the Best Drug Rehab (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10723.0.html) thread, too (done).  That one has 193,171 views.   :o

193k!!!!!!  Someone is paranoid......What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in his office.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 24, 2014, 00:17
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Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on August 28, 2015, 11:54
I got tired of tracking all of Per's junk of separate pages, so I've started adding a table indexing all the buildings on his page.

Category:Per Wickstrom (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Per_Wickstrom)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on September 07, 2015, 21:45
I got tired of tracking all of Per's junk of separate pages, so I've started adding a table indexing all the buildings on his page.

Category:Per Wickstrom (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Per_Wickstrom)
I've added CARF certifications to his locations. Not that I care about CARF, but if Per is going to keep flipping his companies around, he'd better keep his Michigan licenses and CARF certifications in the right company name.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on September 08, 2015, 21:20
I got tired of tracking all of Per's junk of separate pages, so I've started adding a table indexing all the buildings on his page.

Category:Per Wickstrom (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Per_Wickstrom)
I've added CARF certifications to his locations. Not that I care about CARF, but if Per is going to keep flipping his companies around, he'd better keep his Michigan licenses and CARF certifications in the right company name.

Great idea! Thanks for staying on top of the Wickstrom machinations.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on September 28, 2015, 11:42
(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy75/sbysbys/wick.jpg)

 I in no way am attempting to disparage this individual in any fashion, yet time and again I come across those that have had personal experiences with this gentlemen and his organization. I would love to give him the benefit of doubt as a person wanting to help his fellow man via his rehab services. Alas, I continually come up empty handed. In order to understand this individual I need to take into consideration the merit or metal of the man and the hows and whys he is where he is.

 Scientology plays a major part in how this individual acts and reacts towards his fellow man! As I have learned from experience, scientology and its use within the rehabilitation industry via Narconon International lends itself to replicated behavior. Meaning as these individuals whom hold license and operate these rehab facilities must adhere to the scientology party line so to speak.

 This has become quite evident as more information comes out about Narconon and the ease in which we the general public observe mirrored behavior with these facilities on a national level. It appears from research done by others each of these facilities are captained by a scientologist, hence the predictability of behavior. I have come to realize there are a very small group on players here. These same players come up in many a discussion. Those same players have helmed these facilities for some time now.

 Though I dearly want to give Mr.Wickstrom the benefit of the doubt, I am seeing a tremendous amount of similarities between his operations and that of other narconons. This does not make for a comfortable feeling on my end.

 I want to know as much as possible about this individual. Factual information that is. If Mr. Wickstrom or his agents would like to add to the discussion, I am more than willing to listen!
Bumping this due to continued concern over this individual.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on October 31, 2015, 18:30
From the "eyes of the storm" I bring you...

(http://i.imgur.com/XDg5KLj.png)

Per Wickstrom says Business Owners should be Employees rather than Bosses - examiner (http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses)

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Introduction

Most business owners/entrepreneurs think that their businesses are an extension of their lives. They go to work with passion that you'll probably not find in other professionals. They are committed to making it work, and they work as if their lives depended on it. However, working as if your life depended on it is the perfect recipe for stress, burnout, disorder, and chaos for the business – and then, that business you love so much with your life might sap out the very life from you.

more on business stress at http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on October 31, 2015, 19:25
Hehe! He posted that on his personal Facebook timeline!  Such an opinion leader he is!

I wonder how many former staff would call Per Wickstrom a hypocrite?
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on October 31, 2015, 19:31
He looks relaxed, doesn't he?  Well, doesn't he??   ___P=

Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on October 31, 2015, 22:05
He must have written the article himself!

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Becoming an employee in your business would allow the business run itself in your absence because you won't have to be running things.

The CEO said that "when you become an employee in your business, you break the operations into tasks... it is easy to delegate your part of the operations when the person taking the baton knows exactly what to do".

Ugh!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on November 02, 2015, 12:43
From the "eyes of the storm" I bring you...

(http://i.imgur.com/XDg5KLj.png)

Per Wickstrom says Business Owners should be Employees rather than Bosses - examiner (http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses)

Quote
Introduction

Most business owners/entrepreneurs think that their businesses are an extension of their lives. They go to work with passion that you'll probably not find in other professionals. They are committed to making it work, and they work as if their lives depended on it. However, working as if your life depended on it is the perfect recipe for stress, burnout, disorder, and chaos for the business – and then, that business you love so much with your life might sap out the very life from you.

more on business stress at http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses
I would NOT buy a used car from this man,much less listen to any of his business advice!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on November 02, 2015, 19:19
I would NOT buy a used car from this man,much less listen to any of his business advice!

 ;)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 03, 2015, 12:31
He looks relaxed, doesn't he?  Well, doesn't he??   ___P=


 3((:
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on November 04, 2015, 15:14
From the "eyes of the storm" I bring you...

(http://i.imgur.com/XDg5KLj.png)

Per Wickstrom says Business Owners should be Employees rather than Bosses - examiner (http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses)

Quote
Introduction

Most business owners/entrepreneurs think that their businesses are an extension of their lives. They go to work with passion that you'll probably not find in other professionals. They are committed to making it work, and they work as if their lives depended on it. However, working as if your life depended on it is the perfect recipe for stress, burnout, disorder, and chaos for the business – and then, that business you love so much with your life might sap out the very life from you.

more on business stress at http://www.examiner.com/article/per-wickstrom-says-business-owners-should-be-employees-rather-than-bosses
>:D  :D  ;D

(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy75/sbysbys/FotoFlexer_Photo_zpsz3yjo7tv.jpg)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 17, 2015, 21:44
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/26/02/2602547fcee8270fc7c3bd9a9b1d86ae.jpg?itok=Oo9wDBhw)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on December 18, 2015, 07:14
^^^^^
That picture of Per Wickstrom always reminds me of...

(http://i.imgur.com/rncj1oM.png)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 18, 2015, 23:00
Haha!!

Here is the latest! Rod Keller found it and let me copy it :)

I call it:  Per Wickstrom letting it all hang out

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/Per%20Wickstrom%20Yoga_zps11hxk9q7.jpg)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on December 29, 2015, 10:47
^^ he literally has his ass in a sling.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: SocialTransparency on December 29, 2015, 11:16
Haha!!

Here is the latest! Rod Keller found it and let me copy it :)

I call it:  Per Wickstrom letting it all hang out

(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad340/ScnDox/Per%20Wickstrom%20Yoga_zps11hxk9q7.jpg)
What ashram was he at?
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BigBeard on December 29, 2015, 15:19
 ||||o||||  <== This is the only view of Per I want to see.

Wanna bet he makes sure there's no one around with a baseball bat before hanging himself up like that??
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 29, 2015, 15:47
ST, have no idea which ashram he was at for the photo op. This is a 'leaked' photo, so I doubt I will be able to find out either.

Too funny, DeathHamster and BigBeard!!!

Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on January 02, 2016, 00:53
||||o||||  <== This is the only view of Per I want to see.

Wanna bet he makes sure there's no one around with a baseball bat before hanging himself up like that??
Per Piñata?
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: BigBeard on January 02, 2016, 07:54
||||o||||  <== This is the only view of Per I want to see.

Wanna bet he makes sure there's no one around with a baseball bat before hanging himself up like that??
Per Piñata?

 :-D^\^\ I think some folks would pay big bucks for tickets to that party.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on January 22, 2016, 10:07
Are there any obvious LARA licenses for Per that I'm missing? (I'm going to have to add some location info, or it'll drive me nuts trying to remember which one is which.)

(http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/pix/Argon.jpg)

Right now it only does a raw page change check. Later, I'll extract information from the pages for notification of more specific changes. I'll also add an RSS page to my site to make it easier for everyone to watch.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on January 22, 2016, 20:52
^^^
Your list looks complete. Love the ongoing improvements!
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 9001 on January 24, 2016, 10:07
Great work Death Hamster!

One of Per's rehabs to add to the list:
NICOLETTE FOUNDATION- incorporated 29th December 2015

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_corp.asp?id_nbr=71858X&name_entity=NICOLETTE_FOUNDATION/

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/image.asp?FILE_TYPE=ELF&FILE_NAME=D201512\2015363\E0132652.TIF
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on January 25, 2016, 12:49
SA0510026, SA0180023 and SA0130102 were updated recently. Too bad my program doesn't tell me what changed or keep a copy of the old page for comparison. /facepalm

Looking at it, in SA0510026 they bumped the expire date, which was due to run out, to July 31.
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: ethercat on January 26, 2016, 09:38
What about Tranquility Detox?  Or is that considered part of one of the ones you already have?
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on January 26, 2016, 10:33
What about Tranquility Detox?  Or is that considered part of one of the ones you already have?
AFAIK, Tranquility Detox doesn't have any licenses in Michigan. Per shuffles his licenses and companies around at each location, and if they're open, it'll turn out that it's really a different company operating there.

Category:Per Wickstrom (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Per_Wickstrom)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: 9001 on January 26, 2016, 13:06
Forgive me if I'm wrong but it looks like TRANQUILITY DETOX have an active licence in Michigan.

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_corp.asp?id_nbr=71097N&name_entity=TRANQUILITY_DETOX

Links here to articles of Incorporation, certificate of assumed name and annual reports-

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/results.asp?ID=71097N&page_name=corp
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on January 27, 2016, 08:08
Forgive me if I'm wrong but it looks like TRANQUILITY DETOX have an active licence in Michigan.

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_corp.asp?id_nbr=71097N&name_entity=TRANQUILITY_DETOX

Links here to articles of Incorporation, certificate of assumed name and annual reports-

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/results.asp?ID=71097N&page_name=corp
That's the corporate registration, which I don't check yet. (I'll probably call that "LARA Corp".)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: DeathHamster on April 29, 2016, 10:04
Okay, I've finished the glue to connect Argon to the wiki pages. Now all of Per's locations have an infobox straight from LARA on their individual pages.

To do:
1. Change the underlying class to move them over to the left, non-floating.
2. Figure out why LARA occasionally reorders the program list on their pages.
3. Make one change summary page to monitor.

eg: Category:Narconon Freedom Center (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Narconon_Freedom_Center)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: mefree on April 30, 2016, 15:41
^^^
Very nice and useful.  L-O-:
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: whitesand on January 22, 2017, 14:27
Per Wickstrom's new home in Safety Harbor, FL, as reported in the Tampa Bay Times on 1/22/2017.  Price tag is $6.857 million dollars.

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2017/01/502004377_18233838_8col.jpg

(http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2017/01/502004377_18233838_8col.jpg)
Title: Re: Per Wickstrom
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 23, 2017, 22:05
Thanks, whitesand. No surprise there... This information below helps explain how he makes some of his money

Narconon Reviews:  new article relevant to this thread

Alert: Insurance Coverage & Collections Issues
On our radar: Best Drug Rehabilitation Inc, unbranded Narconons
Written by Mary McConnell on January 8, 2017
[..] We would like to share with you a recent memo we received from attorney Catherine Villanueva of the law firm Jeffrey Ray, P.C., regarding the above case and collection tactics being employed by Best Drug Rehabilitation and other unbranded Narconon programs against people who were under the belief that their health insurance was covering the treatment. ....[..] read on 
http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/insurance-coverage-collection-issues/ (http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/insurance-coverage-collection-issues/)

Reference: New lawsuit posted
http://narcononreviews.net/lawsuits/best-drug-rehabilitation-v-does-1-2-3/ (http://narcononreviews.net/lawsuits/best-drug-rehabilitation-v-does-1-2-3/)