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Narconon and related groups / Re: Scientolgy Drug Rehab
« Last post by Mary_McConnell on August 31, 2017, 21:14 »
Welcome, 'Scientology'!

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Ok, when here finally, some questions i have been thinking about for a while now...

How many percent of the Scientology economy is financed by Narconon, anyone have an idea?

That is not known to me, or anyone I know.  There is nothing in writing, documented, that can be found by the public. Church records are exempt from being made public. Narconon records will never show this, as they have to use their monies only to support specific projects or as grants.

They do, however, benefit from recruits to the church for courses or auditing. This is an elaborate and often covert process of handpicking receptive graduates and staff who are taken under the wing of a facility staff member who is also a scientologist, all done under close observation by their program management.  These people cannot be hostile to, or have said anything critical about, the church. Over time, the staff/scientologist knows who to send over to a local church, or to one near the graduate's home in their own state if the graduate must return home.  Most often, the person is told that they need Scientology to be fully cured of their addiction, that there are specific courses and counseling in Scientology that address the root cause of the addiction... this can bring in thousands and thousands of $$$ from just one Narconon staff or grad sent to a a church "org", as they are called.

The only 'support' Scientology gives to Narconon that I know of is mention of the program with link to Narconon . org site  on their website and in the way of donations to their property front group, Social Betterment Properties International, who is the landlord of some but not all Narconon program facility properties, like Narconon Arrowhead[/b] The church also funds other related front groups, like the drug education programs, but not Narconon education programs directly, not that I know of anyway.  This is intentional, to maintain a corporate veil between entities. Keeping the "Narconon is not Scientology mantra going. The International Association of Scientologists, which is supposed to be a separate organization but is yet another cash cow for the church, also claims to donate to Narconon

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-What is the main reasons Narconon still is here?

There are 50 states here in the USA and each has it's own laws in relation to licensing of substance abuse programs and licensing of drug counselors. The states where there are still programs, tend to be easiest to get licenses on both. The laws are slowly changing making it harder for bad programs to get licensed, but this takes time and getting through red-tape. Some have been closed, some closed on their own... but there are still those in these states still operating. California is making it harder to get a license renewed due to stricter requirements for counselors, but Narconon has managed to still be there in Southern California for the time being. They have been sued so many times, but then respond by changing contracts so people have to sign to agree to not sue, and only use arbitration to settle disputes. Most if not all attorneys will not take arbitration cases unless paid for their time, with retainer fee paid up front. They have settled nearly all lawsuits, though there are some recent new ones, and I believe their will continue to be more.

But the way to shut these people down completely, besides draining them of their money in legal and settlement fees, is to have any and all complaints also be filed at state consumer affairs offices run by each state Attorney General. If enough state AGs get these complaints, a lawsuits by the states can be brought against then for the typical tactics of intentional breach of contract, fraud, deceptive trade practices and others. 
 

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How does Narconon get customers?

 
Sometimes they get them from people who did the program, who are referred, many of whom who get a commission for sending a person into a Narconon salesperson. But, you need to read this forum and do a google search as well to really see the game they have going on...

Also, visit our sister site for independent info and reviews of Narconon,  Narconon Reviews http://narcononreviews.net  Seriously, they get customers anyway they can, especially through tricking websites to link to their main website, or by fake referral websites claiming to be independent when they aren't. But it is important for you, and anyone who doesn't know how they operate, to get the facts independently because Narconon will not tell anyone the facts that many former 'students' aka patients, and staff have come to know.

I am glad you joined us here. So look around the forum, read, search words such as:  fake referral . Or whatever interests you.

Narconon is Scientology. The whole program is. So you have come to the right place


~ Mary
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"Additionally under R325.14925, the site inspection revealed that there were patient files presenting numerous urinalysis that revealed positive results for illicit drugs for extended periods of time while the patients were active in the program. The program appears to lack any policy or procedure that documented how the situation was investigated and how patients with positive urinalysis results are addressed."

That's nothing new, I'm afraid. Glad the state surveyors are getting tough!
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Narconon Freedom Center is in deep shit, facing revocation of their license!

https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/Files/ViewDocument/38528

Yay, Michigan finally takes a good hard look and smacks them!

It's about time. Thanks for posting.
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"(f) Failure to demonstrate reasonably sufficient honesty and integrity to warrant the operation, or continuing operation, of a program."

Applies to every narCONon anywhere.

So true!
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Narconon and related groups / Scientolgy Drug Rehab
« Last post by Scientology on August 29, 2017, 17:55 »

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Ok, when here finally, some questions i have been thinking about for a while now...

-How many percent of the Scientology economy is financed by Narconon, anyone have an idea?
-What is the main reasons Narconon still is here?

How does Narconon get customers?
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Narconon Freedom Center and its officers are being notified by way of this letter of the intent to revoke the license for the above facility. As such and under Rule R 325.14207, an informal conference shall occur on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 1:00pm at the Bureau of Community and Health Systems Office, 611 W. Ottawa Street, Lansing, MI 48909, in the Lake Superior Room. The licensed program will be given an opportunity to show compliance at the informal conference.
I wonder which way it went?
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"(f) Failure to demonstrate reasonably sufficient honesty and integrity to warrant the operation, or continuing operation, of a program."

Applies to every narCONon anywhere.
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Serenity Point has a new annual report and a complaint filed!

Yeeees! Michigan is getting tough with their annual inspections! "not in substantial compliance" There will be follow-up visits, but judging by Narconon Freedom Center, they're in trouble.
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Based on the state licensure inspection findings and the above noted deficiencies, Serenity Point Recover was not in substantial compliance with the MCL 333.6201 through MCL 333.6251 and/or the Michigan Administrative Rules R325.14101 through R325.14928 as applicable, at the time of the site visit and a follow up survey will be conducted.
The complaint. It looks like they dumped someone at a homeless shelter, again.
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Narconon Freedom Center is in deep shit, facing revocation of their license!

https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/Files/ViewDocument/38528

Yay, Michigan finally takes a good hard look and smacks them!
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Narconon in Canada / Re: All Narconons gone from Quebec?
« Last post by Mary_McConnell on August 28, 2017, 22:14 »
I sure hope there are no more there! 

You may find the Charities information on file about Narconon interesting. I found by looking under ALL 'charity status' at the Canadian Gov't List of Charities There are reports I have never seen before.
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/charities-giving/charities-listings.html

I don't think there are any Narconons drug programs registered legally anywhere in Canada currently, but they do have  the original Narconon Canada registered as Active. You can see what I found by search results at the above link.

From what I read in their latest Charity 3T07 form, I don't see that they are doing any rehab services. Just their education efforts look concerning. Appears that they get government grant money. Maybe there is someone in Ontario who can look further into this.

The NARCONON TROIS-RIVIERES' 2011 financials might interest you.
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