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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #100 on: April 27, 2012, 12:54 »
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Of course, assessing and diagnosing any physical symptoms, and prescribing any actions to be taken with regard to the symptoms, is absolutely "practicing medicine" - at least in my viewpoint!

Indeed it is practicing medicine in Canada and many other countries.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2012, 23:14 »
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...in Georgia, the DHR (now DCH) allows them to get away with having a form the "students" sign that says they are aware that the dosages are above the FDA recommended dosages.

Saying they are aware the dosages are above the FDA recommended dosages is meaningless. There are fad diets that do that without getting into the extreme, and potentially deadly, levels NarCONon and the Purif do.

They should be required to sign a form stating, "They are aware they will be receiving doses of niacin and vitamin A that are considered toxic levels, with the risk of severe irreversible liver damage, potentially leading to death."

Seriously! I can't believe NN of GA gets away with this stuff. DCH is allowing them to give toxic levels of vitamins with a waiver form signature. That really doesn't make it any less dangerous.

It's the rubber stamp approach to plan of correction submission.  (:E( _/?%
Let's hope Mary Rieser's most recent plan of correction doesn't pass the smell test.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2012, 11:17 »
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...in Georgia, the DHR (now DCH) allows them to get away with having a form the "students" sign that says they are aware that the dosages are above the FDA recommended dosages.

Saying they are aware the dosages are above the FDA recommended dosages is meaningless. There are fad diets that do that without getting into the extreme, and potentially deadly, levels NarCONon and the Purif do.

They should be required to sign a form stating, "They are aware they will be receiving doses of niacin and vitamin A that are considered toxic levels, with the risk of severe irreversible liver damage, potentially leading to death."

Seriously! I can't believe NN of GA gets away with this stuff. DCH is allowing them to give toxic levels of vitamins with a waiver form signature. That really doesn't make it any less dangerous.

It's the rubber stamp approach to plan of correction submission.  (:E( _/?%
Let's hope Mary Rieser's most recent plan of correction doesn't pass the smell test.

I'm diverting this Narconon of Georgia discussion to here: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10256.msg23157.html#msg23157

Let's get back to Oklahoma in this one.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2013, 01:09 »
it is true!!!                                i was talking to my finance on the phone and over heard someone talking about how they just found a 21 year old girl dead in withdrawes, who recieved no medacal attiontion! i am scared! i sent my fiance some info on what people are saying about narconon and the deaths there. she got it a few hours after they found this poor young woman dead! The staff raided her room and told her she could not have that type of info about them, and if she showed anyone they were going to kick her out and she would have to walk to the airport (over an hour drive away) this place is insane i fear for her and everyone else there. She won't come home because her mother (knowing this info about narconon) threatens to disown her if she does not complete this program. Luckly she is smart enough to realize weeks ago she was not feeling right and was feeling sick and lack of emotions towards anyone. she says a bunch of the student realized it to and sneak and throw they vitamiams away cause they don't feel right on them. She also said they threatin to write them up if they don't do what ever is asked and in a threating way tell them not to be on the phone often. she also went on to say how young girls are skipping class and being escorted alone by male staff to the lake or other place were no one else is around and this should be a MAJOR concern for anyone concidering there are rumors about staff bringing drugs in and the students having or preforming sexual favors in order to be able to do what they want and get treated fairly. I don't know the truth to all of this but i know some of it to be very true and if there is anything anyone can do to help or offer advise please do so

A older comment but an important one.

It's tips like these that help us expose what is going on.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2013, 11:57 »
It's tips like these that help us expose what is going on.

Indeed.  Things that start as rumors, once investigated, often become facts with documentation.

If anyone has any tips that could help to expose this madness, please post them, even if you have no desire to participate on the forum beyond posting the tip.

Thanks to whoswhoconcerned for this one.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #105 on: April 06, 2013, 14:23 »
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Holten, Hillary Ann  Age 21, passed away Wednesday, April 11, 2012 from complications of pneumonia and Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. Hillary was born December 16, 1990 in Carrollton TX. She was a graduate of Creekview High School. As an advanced placement art student at Newman Smith High School, her work was featured in the 2008 Young Masters Exhibition. Her friends enjoyed her caricature drawings of them. She was a student at Brookhaven Community College in Dallas, and had plans to study biology at The University of North Texas.
Dallas Morning News on May 6, 2012

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Holten’s autopsy showed nothing unusual except for some lesions on her face and bruising on her arms and right leg, according to the report.

The toxicology report showed no positives for any tested substance.

According to a lawsuit filed by Holten’s family, she had congenital adrenal hyperplasia that was being treated with medication.

The autopsy report was inconclusive about the possibility that her death was associated with the medical condition.

“The decedent (Holten) did have a medical history of congenital adrenal hyperplasia and acute Addisonian crisis is a known complication which can be lethal; however post mortem electrolyte studies were not conclusive of Addisonian crisis,” according to the medical examiner’s report.

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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #106 on: April 10, 2013, 11:05 »
I got this email from Gary Smith stating Flag had sent out my SP declare to Narconon.  Though Smith said he was only going to show it to staff who are Scientologists, all staff were instructed to disconnect from me (despite his poor attempt to cover his own ass in this email).  More proof the church controls what Narconon does, and more proof of libel and slander...

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From: Gary Smith <ed @ *****>
To: 'Lucas Catton'
Cc: 'Phil Hart' <ednni @ *****>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: LRH Quote

Dear Luke,
 
Howdy!  You know I don’t pull any punches so here is the deal.  I have received and read thoroughly the hard copy of your comm eve and declare from Flag.   The bottom line here is that you have a condition and a situation with the church that you created and you are the only one that will be able to resolve if you chose to.  If you feel the declare is unjust then contact IJC about it.  In the mean time there are Scientologists that you are or have been in comm with via Face Book and some of those Scientologists happened to be staff at Narconon Arrowhead. So how this is going to be handled is those Scientologists who are staff here who are on your face book are going to be contacted and ask to read  the declare.  This is per policy how these sorts of things are handled.  We will not be doing any broad public issue of this declare at Narconon because as you know Narconon is a drug rehab and not a church but for those Scientologists who are here on staff they deserve to get their churches communication about your standing with their church.   You should not try to stay in comm with them until or unless you decide to take the necessary steps to get back in good standing with the church of Scientology. I like you Luke and know you have created some good products in the past but in the present you have this condition and sit with the Church that you need to get sorted out.  I would love to meet at a conference or somewhere in the future and laugh about this but the only way that is ever going to happen is if you do the right thing now and take the necessary steps to get back in good standing.  In the mean time I am requesting that you remove me from your email.  Good luck my friend I hope you do the right thing.
ML, Smith


Oh, I definitely feel that I have done the right thing, Gary.

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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #107 on: April 10, 2013, 11:19 »
 ;D Thank, Luke. Another Gary W Smith footbullet
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2013, 15:15 »
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Oh, I definitely feel that I have done the right thing, Gary.

You have done the right thing, Lucas.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #109 on: April 10, 2013, 17:32 »
I got this email from Gary Smith stating Flag had sent out my SP declare to Narconon.  Though Smith said he was only going to show it to staff who are Scientologists, all staff were instructed to disconnect from me (despite his poor attempt to cover his own ass in this email).  More proof the church controls what Narconon does, and more proof of libel and slander...

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Oh, I definitely feel that I have done the right thing, Gary.

But you see, Luke, if the staff who weren't scientologists hadn't disconnected from you too, those staff that were scientologists would have just had to disconnect from them, and then the ones who weren't scientologists would have lost their jobs. 

That's how my disconnection occurred:
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March 11, 1998

Dear Ann,
As you may know, Tony decided to picket in front of my church again. This puts me in an impossible situation and one that I will not put up with. I have sent him a letter severing our friendship in no uncertain terms.

I have enclosed the information I told you I would give you. I would have sent it earlier, but I didn't think the information was nearly so complete. From our last conversation I understand that you believe much the same things that Tony does in this matter. I would like you to read the material I am giving you and give it at least the same consideration that you gave to the attacks you read on my church.

I cannot and will not put up with the antagonism I have gotten from you directly over this matter and other matters involving my work in my church. I have no use for such upset in my life. Additionally, as long as Tony doesn't change his mind and handle this attack on my church, your connection to Tony connects me with him directly and indirectly. This is impossible for me.

Because of this I am no longer going to contact you. I am not going to call or write or see you. I hope the materials I am giving you help.

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Yes, I'll echo - you did the right thing.  And you are doing the right thing still.   :yes:)



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The last visit: http://www.solitarytrees.net/pickets/atlanta/personal/971228et.htm
The "materials" and "information" were regarding Lisa McPherson, and were supposed to explain why it wasn't the "church's" fault that she died.

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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #110 on: April 10, 2013, 22:22 »
Fuck Gary Smith and the INSANE CULT he is drowning in!
« Last Edit: April 10, 2013, 22:29 by SocialTransparency »

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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2013, 01:12 »
Remembering Hilary Holten and her family today. Hillary entered this world on December 16th, 1990 and she passed on April 11, 2012 due to Narconon Arrowhead's negligence. Please keep the Holten's in your thoughts and prayers.

http://youtu.be/un9_xcutgDM
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2013, 10:21 »
Remembering Hilary Holten and her family today. Hillary entered this world on December 16th, 1990 and she passed on April 11, 2012 due to Narconon Arrowhead's negligence. Please keep the Holten's in your thoughts and prayers.

http://youtu.be/un9_xcutgDM

 Thank you for the reminder Mary. I cannot fathom what the family or for that matter any family goes through during a loss of a family member, when all the while they think their loved one is in good hands.

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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2013, 10:49 »
Today marks the one year anniversary of Hillary Holten's passing. Please keep Hillary and her entire family in you thoughts and prayers today. Why #narconon remains open for daily indoctrination is beyond me. For the sake of Kaysie, Gabe, Hillary, Stacy and the countless others; DO YOUR JOB #ODMHSAS.
RIP Hillary Holten

Words from a dear friend of Hillary's:

"Hillary Holten was one-of-a-kind. Beautiful, hilarious, outgoing, and intelligent are just a few of her many amazing qualities. Hillary was the funniest person I have ever met – she could make anyone laugh with ease. The only times I’ve laughed so incredibly hard I’ve cried were thanks to Hill. She was profound in that respect; a comic genius. Being her friend meant that you knew you could count on her to cheer you up when you were feeling down. Being around her was always interesting; hanging out with Hillary also meant you would never be bored. She was extremely creative as an artist and a storyteller. She could instantly make up the funniest stories or put a statement or observation in a (much funnier) way then you had ever thought of it before. Most times, a spot-on cartoon drawing would follow these hilarious statements, making us keel over in laughter. Her artist abilities were truly amazing. Hillary was also extremely intelligent. She always did extremely well scholastically even when she wasn’t trying. But one of the best traits Hillary had was her loyalty to her friends. She would always stick up for us, under any and all circumstances. She was always there for her friends whenever we needed her. If any of us had a crisis or emergency, Hillary was there in moments. I can’t even begin to explain some of the amazing times and beautiful memories I shared with Hillary, or else this would be at least one hundred pages.

Unfortunately, her life tragically ended before these traits could thrive into adulthood. Hillary had many personal struggles but was attempting to do the right thing by getting help and moving forward with her life. The fact that it was cut short as quickly as it was is disturbing. Hillary didn’t deserve to leave this world the way she did. Hillary deserved a second shot, especially with all she had overcome in her life. Hillary is truly irreplaceable and not a day goes by that she doesn’t cross my mind; when I think back on our adolescence I can’t help but laugh at all of the good times and her many hilarious Hillary-isms. She will be forever loved and forever missed.

Rest in peace Hill, I’ll love you forever." -Jack Long
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2013, 10:56 »
I got this email from Gary Smith stating Flag had sent out my SP declare to Narconon.  Though Smith said he was only going to show it to staff who are Scientologists, all staff were instructed to disconnect from me (despite his poor attempt to cover his own ass in this email).  More proof the church controls what Narconon does, and more proof of libel and slander...

...

Oh, I definitely feel that I have done the right thing, Gary.

But you see, Luke, if the staff who weren't scientologists hadn't disconnected from you too, those staff that were scientologists would have just had to disconnect from them, and then the ones who weren't scientologists would have lost their jobs. 

That's how my disconnection occurred:
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March 11, 1998

Dear Ann,
As you may know, Tony decided to picket in front of my church again. This puts me in an impossible situation and one that I will not put up with. I have sent him a letter severing our friendship in no uncertain terms.

I have enclosed the information I told you I would give you. I would have sent it earlier, but I didn't think the information was nearly so complete. From our last conversation I understand that you believe much the same things that Tony does in this matter. I would like you to read the material I am giving you and give it at least the same consideration that you gave to the attacks you read on my church.

I cannot and will not put up with the antagonism I have gotten from you directly over this matter and other matters involving my work in my church. I have no use for such upset in my life. Additionally, as long as Tony doesn't change his mind and handle this attack on my church, your connection to Tony connects me with him directly and indirectly. This is impossible for me.

Because of this I am no longer going to contact you. I am not going to call or write or see you. I hope the materials I am giving you help.

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Yes, I'll echo - you did the right thing.  And you are doing the right thing still.   :yes:)



Notes:
The last visit: http://www.solitarytrees.net/pickets/atlanta/personal/971228et.htm
The "materials" and "information" were regarding Lisa McPherson, and were supposed to explain why it wasn't the "church's" fault that she died.

One of the things I despise most about Scientology is the way it takes the honorable desires to be a better person, and to help make the world a better place, and perverts them into dogmatic self-worship and wilful subservience to evil. I saw this with extreme clarity as I watched my friend, who I loved for his basic goodness, turn into a kool-aid guzzling auditine addict, willing and happy to deny reality in exchange for the false (IMHO) feelings he got from the church and its practices.

It is no secret that I am the 'Tony' named in the disconnection letter EC quotes from (above). What she does not mention is her response to the disconnection: the next time I picketed their storefront, she was with me, holding a sign that said 'Scientology is a Tax Exempt UFO Cult'! So when she says you are doing the right thing, she speaks as someone who knows exactly what that means, and can mean, for you, and you can take that into your heart.

But I want to say it too: the things you have done, and are doing, are not only right, but righteous. Every single family member who reads your posts, or your book, while searching for info about recovery programs, and decides that maybe they can find help for their loved one somewhere other than Narconon, is a blessing you have shared in. It is an honor to count you among the good-guys! :::-O-:::

'til next time;
tony
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #115 on: April 11, 2013, 18:42 »
^^^^
Very nice, wynot.


My thoughts are with the Holtens today. RIP Hillary.
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2013, 09:31 »
Remembering Hilary Holten and her family today. Hillary entered this world on December 16th, 1990 and she passed on April 11, 2012 due to Narconon Arrowhead's negligence. Please keep the Holten's in your thoughts and prayers.

http://youtu.be/un9_xcutgDM

    A message from Hillary's father from last night:

    Today,one year ago,my life changed,a part of me was gone and I pray every day for God to keep Hillary in his hands.I keep going on knowing that we will see her again,still the hardest part of going on in life.God Bless everyone for their thoughts and prayers.Hug your children as much as possible and whisper in their ear,"I love you soo much",because life really is to short,take it from someone who has been there.
Respectfully,
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Re: Another death on tuesday, 4/10/2012 at Narconon Arrowhead?
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2013, 11:15 »
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