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Scientology’s Narconon Arrowhead Senator Ivester Legislation Passed
 
Submitted by Intelligence on Feb 19, 2013 - 10:35 PM
 
http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?module=News&func=display&sid=9796
 
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SENATE BILL PASSED: Third Reading - YEAS: 46 RCS# 20

NAYS: 0 2/19/2013

EXC : 2 2:04 PM

N/V : 0
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 LINK TO VOTES: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf...B295_VOTES.HTM
 
LINK TO BILL: http://www.oklegislature.gov/Billinfo.aspx?Bill=SB295


edited title for accuracy. --ec
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 00:20 by ethercat »
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Thanks for posting here. This is awesome news indeed.
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NAYS = 0, That's good to see. 
ET went home.

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Senator Tom is my new Super-Hero! O^^:O

Destroying evil and doing right by his constituents, like politicians are supposed to do, and inspiring all with this beautiful example of the power of democracy!

'til later;
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If bill goes into effect 1 Nov 2013 is that the date NN AH has to be in compliance by, or are they allowed some time period starting 1 Nov 2013 to get in compliance??

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http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?module=News&func=display&sid=9796





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Media Release:

Scientology’s Narconon Arrowhead Senator Ivester Legislation Passed
 
Submitted by Intelligence on Feb 19, 2013 - 10:35 PM
 
http://www.wireservice.ca/index.php?module=News&func=display&sid=9796
 
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SENATE BILL PASSED: Third Reading - YEAS: 46 RCS# 20

NAYS: 0 2/19/2013

EXC : 2 2:04 PM

N/V : 0
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 LINK TO VOTES: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf...B295_VOTES.HTM
 
LINK TO BILL: http://www.oklegislature.gov/Billinfo.aspx?Bill=SB295

 This article is rather misleading.

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Contacted political entities in Oklahoma and just got off the phone to a one source a few minutes ago - - lots more info coming later today, with specific details and government procedures until Law is enacted, which could be before November 1, 2013 if signed by Governor Fallin. A few more steps to go yet, for sure :)
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I really meant to look at this thing back when it first came up. I am kicking myself now. The language is too vague and circular.

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I really meant to look at this thing back when it first came up. I am kicking myself now. The language is too vague and circular.

Yes, I agree, but it will be in the hands of the Mental Health Board when signed by
Governor Fallin, and I think there is enough clout? We'll see? Also, there could be
ammendments etc, in the 2 House of Reps?

This is a poweful site/decision from when NN AH was REJECTED:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/reports/91report.htm

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This is a poweful site/decision from when NN AH was REJECTED:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/reports/91report.htm

This is a very good reference.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/oklahoma-senate-passes-bill-for-safer-drug-rehabs-narconon-facing-scrutiny?cid=db_articles

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Senator Ivester had strong words concerning Narconon Arrowhead. “This is a disgusting business that preys on desperate family members and their sick loved ones, scamming them out of thousands of dollars with the promise of providing hope and new life,” Ivester said. “It’s a disgrace to have these people operating in the state of Oklahoma. Too many lives have been lost under their watch.”



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Additional information from sources is expected this week, and updates will be posted as the information arrives.

Stay tuned for the next Examiner article that will feature a special person who was instrumental and certainly deserves enormous credit for taking risks and for putting the issue of Narconon Arrowhead on the media's radar.


MUCH MORE HERE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/oklahoma-senate-passes-bill-for-safer-drug-rehabs-narconon-facing-scrutiny?cid=db_articles

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Nice article! Thanks, IT.

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David. Do you have a way to track how many people in a given month view these examiner stories?

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I know they show up on the scientology news aggregator at xenu.net (most of the time.)

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David. Do you have a way to track how many people in a given month view these examiner stories?

Sorry for not responding till now - - was up writing till 4:30am and
didn't get up and back to work till 1:30pm.

Yes, I do receive a count by my Examiner manager, but many other sites pick up
the articles and post/publish - - depends on content and TAGS used and whether
it makes it to "Web Google" or "News Doogle".

Should have next Story/Article up early this evening - - one that is long overdue. :)

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Narconon Exposed UPDATE:
A little correction from the wire service article last night.

The legislation passed the Senate and is now engrossed and headed to the House of Representatives and should meet minimal resistance and pass. Then it goes to the Governors office to be signed into law, however she can veto the Bill (chances of that are very minimal, but we can't rule it out). The 46 to 0 is a very telling sign that NO one will contest this bill. IMO if someone does contest it they will have major problems during the next election.

Everyone deserves a little happy happy joy joy dance, but this is 1/3rd of the well to being a completed task.

Senate- Check
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Governor-
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Narconon Exposed UPDATE:
A little correction from the wire service article last night.

The legislation passed the Senate and is now engrossed and headed to the House of Representatives and should meet minimal resistance and pass. Then it goes to the Governors office to be signed into law, however she can veto the Bill (chances of that are very minimal, but we can't rule it out). The 46 to 0 is a very telling sign that NO one will contest this bill. IMO if someone does contest it they will have major problems during the next election.

Everyone deserves a little happy happy joy joy dance, but this is 1/3rd of the well to being a completed task.

Senate- Check
House- In Process
Governor-

Spoke to 2 sources in Oklahoma earlier today, and it is possible for this to be signed onto law sooner than November - - keeping fingers crosses.

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Tony Ortega has an update on the legislation, now at the House.

I want to cross-post my comment here. I feel like I am missing something, because it doesn't make me as jubilant as everyone else.

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I went back and looked at the original Bill. This Bill is IDENTICAL to the original Bill 
     (43A O.S. 2011, Section 3-415)
except for 4 underlined portions. I guess that was obvious, but maybe I wasn't the only one reading it as though this is all new legislation. It sounded great before and it didn't work. Now it has added two basic changes which are not both good. The language regarding CARF accreditation is no different than it was before. The language regarding false success rates is also no different than it was before.

This amended Bill adds "recovery support" services to the previous list of services already under the oversight of the Mental Health Board, which previously included "treatment, counseling, and rehabilitation" services. If this was Narconon's loophole, then this is very good.

It ADDS two troubling EXEMPTIONS to oversight:

E. The following are exempt from the provisions of the Oklahoma
Alcohol and Drug Abuse Services Act:

6. Faith-based, nonresidential recovery programs; or
7. Residential recovery-based programs with a resident capacity of less than twelve (12).

This could be a nightmare. The "faith-based" loophole may not be one Narconon would use, but there are horror stories of some of these groups created solely to exploit the vulnerable and make some big bucks exactly because there is NO oversight. The non-residential clause does not keep them from operating as residential anyway, as we saw in the case of Narconon of Georgia.

And how is any abusive practice acceptable just because they only have 12 people chained in the basement instead of 100. These two changes are going backwards. Why? Lack of availability of services in rural areas does not excuse lack of oversight. Any valid recovery group, faith-based or not, should not object to complying with appropriate standards.

Tony - Thanks for following this up to the House. It sounds like it will need to be tracked even further. If the regulators do the right thing to ensure that scientific standards actually become required by law, then all we need is vigilance to prevent the antics Luke talks about.