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Offline Cigul

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Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« on: March 06, 2013, 19:43 »
OK friends and neighbors, with all of the recent goings on with certification, I began to wonder about the RAS cert that Narconons in CA use. The Breining Institute, which sells the exam, is legit. And while I did not take said exam, I knew several staff who did and heard talk of the same behavior (answers to the test given, etc). Also, and here I think is the loophole, one must have 155 hours of formal education in the field of addiction to be a bona fide RAS.  The Breining Institute of course offers their own program to meet this requirement, but it takes some time and is costly and there is simply no way that Narconon gives up the time or the money. And as we all know, many, many, MANY Narconon staff lack the education in this field. I have contacted the Breining Institute regarding their policy should it become apparent that false claims were made in the process of becoming an RAS. I eagerly await their reply.  >:D
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 20:58 »
Excellent work Cigul!!!  Ensure you brief the Institute on their pattern of fraudulently obtaining the CCDC cert and the group the Scientologists that formed the PITA Group to give out more fake certs with no testing, formal education, oversight, etc.  The pattern needs to be exposed fully so they can see what they are dealing with.  Many that have the RAS probably got their CCDC fraudulently too...
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 23:23 »
Thanks, Cigul!! So nice to see you posting again here and taking on this task. :)

Did you see my post about Claire Pinelli and William Kent McGregor of PITAGrpup being licensed CSC - Clinical supervisors via Breining? They may be supervising the clinical observation hours for Narconon staff going for or renewing RAS certs
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 21:48 »
Go, Cigul!
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 16:57 »
Any reply yet?
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 18:03 »
Ah, yes. Sorry, eh? I am in the process of filing a complaint with the ADP. I could also file a complaint with the Breining institute, but they require a complaint filed per RAS, whereas with the ADP I can file a more general complaint and then they, after investigating, would follow up with Breining with the specifics. Breining was prompt in their response and provided all applicable links. And so, here's to hoping that the ADP is prompt as well.

Sorry to leave you hanging.
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 19:20 »
Ah, yes. Sorry, eh? I am in the process of filing a complaint with the ADP. I could also file a complaint with the Breining institute, but they require a complaint filed per RAS, whereas with the ADP I can file a more general complaint and then they, after investigating, would follow up with Breining with the specifics. Breining was prompt in their response and provided all applicable links. And so, here's to hoping that the ADP is prompt as well.

Sorry to leave you hanging.

Cigal, just so you and the readers who see this know, ADP has limited control over what programs like Narconon do.

Their regulations on facilities are mostly about state and federal HIPAA privacy regs, patient rights, counselor licensing and behavior standards but mostly safety issues. Like in meeting the local and county regs on cleanliness, structure, and functions of the structures, like water, sewer, building codes, electric etc.

They don't handle anything regarding promises made over the phone; they don't involve themselves in refund issues on Narconon complaints because NN makes people sign a contract which says 'no refund'. The law is only regarding informing people before the service starts. 

The worst part is that they only fine them when things have happened
(substantiated complaints) giving them so many days to submit a correction plan and correct. For example, if someone is ill in the program and finally winds up in the hospital from the program only to then die-  or of a patient commits suicide after leaving the program without authorization - and the facility never reported the deaths to ADP  -  they only get fined and do a correction plan.

If they are running unlicensed programs, they just send a cease and desist order to the unlicensed program, address, even if it's next door to a Narconon and it's known that Narconon ran it. It has to be substantiated with documentation etc.

I have seen many complaints marked 'unsubstantiated' because their was either no proof or the state is not responsible for the problem, like what they were promised, or that the intake person or interventionist lied to them, or that they got ill but provide no documentation. It's pathetic,m really.

All complaints are kept on file and even though some of them are about issues ADP does not have oversight on, they are  available through the CA Public Records Act for all to read. Attorneys use these cmplaints, many of which are similar in the contract and fraud , deceptive trade practices issues in court.

So I thought I would mention this in case you did not know these things.

The adp site is not working right now for me but you can read the regs over there when it gets back up.
For anyone wanting to file a complaint, go here and look for the complaint info link
 http://www.adp.ca.cgov

Regarding Breining: On the RAS stuff, if the counselors are being fed the answers to the tests, or they are lying about hours of clinical supervision or training or education, definately report that. I suspect that William Kent McGregor and Claire Pinelli are both helping So Cal with these things. I posted their stuff in a thread by their names
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2013, 04:18 »
Newbie report it. Enable Signature with it

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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2013, 06:21 »
Newbie report it. Enable Signature with it

Beg pardon?  ITYMBAS.




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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2013, 06:46 »
I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2013, 07:36 »
?????

ITYMBAS:
"I Think You May Be A Spammer."

Looks like he got his instructions mixed up with whatever he was supposed to post.   :D
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Re: Registered Addiction Specialist (RAS)
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2013, 12:23 »
?????

ITYMBAS:
"I Think You May Be A Spammer."

Looks like he got his instructions mixed up with whatever he was supposed to post.   :D

lol!
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