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Title: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: enjoy_alienation on June 26, 2012, 20:25
Has anyone heard of this place? It's owned by Per Wickstrom, who also owns 'A Forever Recovery'. I just left this cultish "rehab" two days ago. I had no clue what I was getting into. I wanted to go into drug treatment and made some calls. I stumbled across BDR. On the phone the recruiter told me there were many different programs to choose from and never mentioned anything about Scientology or Narconon. I went to Battle Creek for detox, which was this old rundown house with inadequate staff. I didn't see a doctor for days and when I finally got to see him he gave me attention for about 12 seconds then sent me on my way. This detox was called "Tranquility Detox". About half the people in there were going to A Forever Recovery and the rest of us were going to Best Drug Rehabilitation. The staff would not tell us ANYTHING about the places we were going to. After 10 days at detox I was taken to Manistee, Michigan, which is where BDR is located. It was a rundown building that smelled awful and looked like it hadn't been cleaned in ages. I was immediately in shock. It was nothing like they made it out to be. My first day I began doing "TRs" which are absolutely RIDICULOUS. EVERY SINGLE BOOK IN THAT PLACE WAS BASED ON SCIENTOLOGY. None of it had anything to do with drugs! The food was terrible. The staff members were selling drugs and alcohol to clients. They did everything they could to suck money out of your bank account. I feel like when I tell people about the courses they just don't understand. None of it had anything to do with my addiction, it was just Scientology 101. Per Wickstrom would show up whenever someone threatened to sue and his presence alone sent chills up my spine.  Staff blackmailed people into staying, if you did something wrong they'd try to scare you and take you to a homeless shelter but not let you actually get out of the van. There's no way to get kicked out. They just put you on "ethics", which is pretty much work detail. The cleanliness of the building is all up to the clients. And addicts aren't the cleanest people. I stayed for 60 days and then I left. I would have left earlier if I had the means to. The place is getting more crowded every week. When I arrived there were maybe 60 people and when I left there were over a hundred. I feel completely traumatized by the experience. I feel sorry for anyone who was tricked into a Narconon program. I haven't found anything on this site about this particular rehab center because it's relatively new but it reeks of Scientology. The only positive thing about it is when I think about using I just remember being in that place and my urges go completely away.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on June 26, 2012, 20:39
Has anyone heard of this place? It's owned by Per Wickstrom, who also owns 'A Forever Recovery'. I just left this cultish "rehab" two days ago. I had no clue what I was getting into. I wanted to go into drug treatment and made some calls. I stumbled across BDR. On the phone the recruiter told me there were many different programs to choose from and never mentioned anything about Scientology or Narconon. I went to Battle Creek for detox, which was this old rundown house with inadequate staff. I didn't see a doctor for days and when I finally got to see him he gave me attention for about 12 seconds then sent me on my way. This detox was called "Tranquility Detox". About half the people in there were going to A Forever Recovery and the rest of us were going to Best Drug Rehabilitation. The staff would not tell us ANYTHING about the places we were going to. After 10 days at detox I was taken to Manistee, Michigan, which is where BDR is located. It was a rundown building that smelled awful and looked like it hadn't been cleaned in ages. I was immediately in shock. It was nothing like they made it out to be. My first day I began doing "TRs" which are absolutely RIDICULOUS. EVERY SINGLE BOOK IN THAT PLACE WAS BASED ON SCIENTOLOGY. None of it had anything to do with drugs! The food was terrible. The staff members were selling drugs and alcohol to clients. They did everything they could to suck money out of your bank account. I feel like when I tell people about the courses they just don't understand. None of it had anything to do with my addiction, it was just Scientology 101. Per Wickstrom would show up whenever someone threatened to sue and his presence alone sent chills up my spine.  Staff blackmailed people into staying, if you did something wrong they'd try to scare you and take you to a homeless shelter but not let you actually get out of the van. There's no way to get kicked out. They just put you on "ethics", which is pretty much work detail. The cleanliness of the building is all up to the clients. And addicts aren't the cleanest people. I stayed for 60 days and then I left. I would have left earlier if I had the means to. The place is getting more crowded every week. When I arrived there were maybe 60 people and when I left there were over a hundred. I feel completely traumatized by the experience. I feel sorry for anyone who was tricked into a Narconon program. I haven't found anything on this site about this particular rehab center because it's relatively new but it reeks of Scientology. The only positive thing about it is when I think about using I just remember being in that place and my urges go completely away.

Welcome to Tipping Point, enjoy_alienation!

I believe word had reached us of BDR, but we didn't have much information. 

It certainly appears to be Narconon under an alias. Narconon frequently comes up with new names to brand themselves under to avoid scrutiny and tracking. What gives them away is the same old Hubbardian junk science approach to drug treatment. THAT doesn't seem to change.

If you haven't seen the Narconon survey, we would love for you to fill one out.
Link: http://reachingforthetippingpoint.net/narcononsurvey/

Thanks for registering and posting. Feel free to look around and comment on anything of interest.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on June 26, 2012, 21:56
Hi enjoy_alienation, and welcome.  Congratulations on keeping clean now that you're out of Narconon-By-a-Different-Name!    L-O-: 

I'm sorry you ended up at those places.  If Per Wickstrom is involved, it can't have been good.

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The only positive thing about it is when I think about using I just remember being in that place and my urges go completely away.

I have heard that before - it works by being so bad, people will do anything not to go anywhere like that again.  Unfortunately, it has also turned some people off of going to any legitimate rehabs too, even when they could have benefited from it.

Can you tell us more about Tranquility Detox?  Do you think it was scientology-run also?  The reason I ask is because there was previously a Narconon in Battle Creek, MI called Narconon Stone Hawk (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Stop-Narconon/StoneHawk/) (also run by Per Wickstrom).  It's closed now, but I'm just wondering if this some remaining part of it, repackaged.

I found it in the Michigan Department of Licensing and Affairs (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/rs_corp.asp?s_button=sname&v_search=Tranquility+Detox&hiddenField=&search=Search) website with Steve Anderson listed as the Resident Agent, and there is a Steve Anderson in the Scientology Completions List (http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/steve-anderson.html).  It's probably a fairly common name, though.

Thanks for telling us about your experience!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: enjoy_alienation on June 26, 2012, 22:07
Tranquility detox is just a run down old building with no signs or anything on the outside. It looks like an old boarding house, but it includes a sauna and a hot tub. A girl died while in there due to them taking everyone off their medications cold turkey. The authorities didn't even know Tranquility detox existed. They couldn't find it. Narconon Stone Hawk is now known as "A Forever Recovery" from my understanding. They just operate it a bit differently. A Forever Recovery is right down the block from Tranquility Detox. It seems like all of Stone Hawks methodology and possibly employees were moved to Best Drug Rehabilitation where I ended up. I felt like I was at the David Koresh compound(with a Scientology twist) with a lot of other drug addicts. It's an experience I wouldn't want to repeat, but I'm glad I went. Now I know how kooky and money hungry The Church of Scientology really is.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Tranquility Detox is Scientology run also. They just don't FORCE you into the saunas but they highly encourage it. And they feed you massive amounts of vitamins and take you off all psyche meds completely.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on June 26, 2012, 23:25
Yep, looks like Narconon has sprouted a new head. Tranquility Detox is allegedly, Best Drug Rehab's "medical detox." Their website begins by outlining the Narconon training routines as we know them and then offers something for virtually everyone, with their fifth goal. Narconon must be getting desperate.

I have no idea what "counselors who have graduated many different modalities of treatment" is supposed to mean.  ::)

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Best Drug Rehabilitation Treatment Goals

Goal 1: Medically Supervised Withdrawal and Detoxification

Detox treatment goal The First goal of the Best Drug Rehabilitation program is medically supervised withdrawal and detoxification in the Tranquility Detox Clinic. A client meets with the Medical Director to determine if there is a need for medically supervised wean down and each wean down is customized according to the client’s needs. Tranquility Detox Clinic has 24-hr supervision with trained withdraw staff and nurses present 24 hours, 7 days a week. A combination of vitamins, exercise and nutritional therapies help alleviate the clients’ withdrawal symptoms. Drug Withdrawal Formula is administered along with a liquid blend of Calcium Magnesium to aid to this process. Massage Therapy, Acupuncture, Chiropractic Care, Assist and exercises are also used to bring a person into a better awareness of their body. When a client is no longer under the influence of any mood-altering substance, no longer in immediate medical danger as a result of their drug use and withdrawal and no longer suffering from any major withdrawal symptoms of their drug of choice, they are then cleared by the Medical Director to begin Goal Two of the Best Drug Rehabilitation Program.

Goal 2: Orientation to the Program

The Second goal of the program begins with the client being introduced to one of our Intake Assessment Staff members. An assessment is done to determine what the client is receptive to and the client is informed of their role in the program while at the facility. Best Drug Rehabilitation’s couselors help keep discipline, responsibility and accountability enforced at all times. Counselors are responsible for ensuring adherence to the Client Rules of Conduct. The client is oriented to the Rules of Conduct governing the program, assigned a room, and given a tour of the building. The client is then seen by the Senior Case Manger and the Case Management Team. Here, the client will be assigned an individual counselor whom they will meet with for an individual one-on-one counseling and then continue to see on a weekly basis during their stay at the facility.

Goal 3: Training Series (Communication Classes): Communicate, Confront and Control

First, Best Drug Rehabilitation works with clients on the basics of good communication skills. If an addict can learn to communicate well, he or she can deal with tough issues. Otherwise, there will be a tendency to introvert and never handle the situation.

Next, Best Drug Rehabilitation teaches clients how to confront their issues. Best Drug Rehabilitation believes that an addict must learn to confront everyday problems, issues, relationships, finances and any other roadblocks that are detouring them. Confronting an issue does not make it a problem. On the contrary, once an issue is confronted, a solution can be adapted and it is no longer a problem.

The Best Drug Rehabilitation client completes exercises over and over again, until he or she is proficient at confronting any situation at any given time. Best Drug Rehabilitation clients learn to be more comfortable around others and find that the pull to revert to addictive behaviors becomes less powerful. The recovering addict learns how to confront and handle old friends, situations, people and places by applying new skills learned in the Best Drug Rehabilitation training.

Best Drug Rehabilitation Goals

Finally, Best Drug Rehabilitation teaches individuals how to regain personal control of their lives. Individuals work with a partner in a college-like classroom setting, assisted by a Best Drug Rehabilitation supervisor. They learn to handle difficult situations without using physical force and how to become fully responsible in a social and drug-free setting. Best Drug Rehabilitation supervisors drill with the clients in “live” situations that are set up to be much tougher than normal life situations.

Successfully completing these steps demonstrates to Best Drug Rehabilitation staff, the willingness and ability to handle the rest of the program. Confront, Communicate and Control all situations and issues. It sounds simple, because it is.

Goal 4: Life Improvement Courses

A core component of Best Drug Rehabilitation is the emphasis on self-improvement and learning new patterns of thinking and behavior. Best Drug Rehabilitation utilizes a variety of courses to assist in this process.

1. Learning Improvement Course enables students to advance their reading and comprehension skills. Once this course is completed, the person is able to grasp and apply fully all the steps of study and application that follows. One of the biggest stumbling blocks for substance abusers in early recovery from addiction, is incorrectly processing information that could be vital towards their long-term recovery. In Learning Improvement, students learn the proper techniques of study to more fully understand the material, recognize the stumbling blocks or barriers to study, and learn techniques to apply the material so that it is relevant to their own life. Once students gain these skills, proper understanding of their addictions and the process of recovery becomes more real for them.

2. Personal Values and Integrity Course: In this course, the student learns about their ethics, morals, responsibility, and how integrity is lost and exactly how it can be restored. Part of the healing process is for the student to shed his misdeeds of the past and gain relief from guilt of those misdeeds. The student, who no longer feels guilty about his past, is able to improve choices in life by applying the basic concept of ethics and morals, moving them forward into a positive future. Students also learn to make better choices regarding, not only their survival, but also the survival of their families, work groups, and mankind. This helps to remove the student from the often self-centered focus that addiction causes and better able to become a contributing member of the family and society. In this course, students will learn to take accountability for their actions, decrease the chances of repeating the same behaviors, and become free from their past.

3. Way to Happiness Course enlightens the student on 21 guidelines that cover moral and ethical codes that will give them subjective reality on where they have gone and exactly how to do better in the future. This will result in a better way of living and a happier, more productive person.

4. Electives are offered to allow students an opportunity to individualize the program and focus on problems and issues that affect their lives due to their substance abuse history. There are over 20 elective courses offered, such as Marriage, Parenting, Self-Confidence, Knowing Who You Can Trust, Relationships, Organize for Success, How to Get Motivated, Effective Time Management, and many more.

Goal 5: Additional Betterment Activities

The Fifth goal of the Best Drug Rehabilitation Program is the five separate activities that are offered at the facility. Listed below are the separate activities and what is offered by each.

1. Self-Help Enhancement allows the client, who is either a believer or has interest in self-help support groups, fellowships, and other recovery communities, to work on self-motivated recovery. Clients on this track will attend Narcotics Anonymous meetings, Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, attend lectures by recovering addicts and enjoy guided sessions.

2. Indigenous allows the client to focus on the culturally relevant recovery materials and methods that have been developed by White Bison, Inc. for the Native American Wellbriety movement. In the Indigenous track our clients learn not only how to heal from their addiction, but also how to heal themselves physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

3. Faith-Based is for the client who is a believer or has an interest in the teachings of Jesus Christ or has other religious or spiritual beliefs. Clients on this activity will attend Church services, Christian 12-step meetings, and/or sermons and lectures by ordained ministers and priests. Clients will also participate in pastoral counseling and guided Bible study and scripture.

4. Holistic allows a client to participate in yoga, Aikido and other martial art training, guided imagery sessions and healing techniques and also acupuncture. Clients on this track believe that empowerment over addiction comes from within one’s self.

5. One on One Therapy uses counselors who have graduated many different modalities of treatment and found that walking with an addict through one-one-one counseling makes all the difference in whether or not a former addict walks out with their head held high aware of their environment and surroundings and at peace with those they care about.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on June 27, 2012, 21:13
Tranquility detox is just a run down old building with no signs or anything on the outside. It looks like an old boarding house, but it includes a sauna and a hot tub. A girl died while in there due to them taking everyone off their medications cold turkey. The authorities didn't even know Tranquility detox existed. They couldn't find it.

Did you report the girl's death?

Tranquility Detox appears to be operating without a license.  I don't find them listed here at the Statewide Search for Substance Abuse Programs: http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/sr_sal.asp

Best Drug Rehab (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/rs_sal.asp?name=Best+Drug+Rehabilitation&cnty_name=%25&city=&zip=&lic_nbr=&Search=Search&hiddenField=) is listed at two addresses:
163 NORTH AVENUE   BATTLE CREEK   49017  License #: 130116 (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/dt_sal.asp?BHS_LIC_NBR=130116)
300 CARE CENTER DRIVE    MANISTEE  49660  License #: 510026 (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/dt_sal.asp?BHS_LIC_NBR=510026)

And A Forever Recovery (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/rs_sal.asp?name=A+Forever+Recovery&cnty_name=%25&city=&zip=&lic_nbr=&Search=Search&hiddenField=) is listed at two addresses:
216 ST MARY'S LAKE RD  BATTLE CREEK  49017  License #: 130102 (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/dt_sal.asp?BHS_LIC_NBR=130102)
163 NORTH AVENUE   BATTLE CREEK  49017  License #: 130115 (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bhs_car/dt_sal.asp?BHS_LIC_NBR=130115)

(Those links for the names and license numbers are to the specific information on the Michigan site, by the way, not to the rehab websites.)

You can also file a complaint about your services here: http://www6.dleg.state.mi.us/parsers/complaints/onlineform.asp

Here are the regulations for a residential substance abuse program, which may help you if you choose to file a complaint: http://www7.dleg.state.mi.us/orr/Files/AdminCode/103_73_AdminCode.pdf

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Narconon Stone Hawk is now known as "A Forever Recovery" from my understanding. They just operate it a bit differently. A Forever Recovery is right down the block from Tranquility Detox. It seems like all of Stone Hawks methodology and possibly employees were moved to Best Drug Rehabilitation where I ended up.

Stone Hawk was shut down because of financial irregularities, and it is my understanding that Per Wickstrom got in Narconon International's bad graces, so could not operate as an official Narconon.  That's when he got involved with A Forever Recovery, which is at least listed in the Michigan corporations database (http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/sr_corp.asp).  Best Drug Rehabilitation is not listed. 

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I felt like I was at the David Koresh compound(with a Scientology twist) with a lot of other drug addicts. It's an experience I wouldn't want to repeat, but I'm glad I went. Now I know how kooky and money hungry The Church of Scientology really is.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Tranquility Detox is Scientology run also. They just don't FORCE you into the saunas but they highly encourage it. And they feed you massive amounts of vitamins and take you off all psyche meds completely.

Is Tranquility Detox located at the 163 North Avenue address above, by any chance?  On Google Street View, it looks like a small office building (Park Bldg.?), and it has "At this address: Freedom Center of Albion‎ and Tranquility Detox‎".  Freedom Center is Narconon also.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on June 29, 2012, 00:26
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Searched for: TRANQUILITY DETOX

ID Num: 03912M
        
Assumed Names

Entity Name: TRANQUILITY DETOX, INC.
Type of Entity: Domestic Profit Corporation

Resident Agent: STEVE ANDERSON
Registered Office Address: 10486 WILDWOOD DR  RICHLAND   MI  49083

Mailing Address:   MI

Formed Under Act Number(s): 284-1972         

Incorporation/Qualification Date: 5-9-2011

Jurisdiction of Origin: MICHIGAN

Number of Shares: 60,000

Year of Most Recent Annual Report:

Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors:
Status: (CONTACT OUR OFFICE AT  517-241-6470  TO OBTAIN DOCUMENT OR EXPLANATION)   Date: 7-26-2011

Several listings on Michigan LARA site for Tranquility:

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/rs_corp.asp?s_button=sname&v_search=Tranquility&hiddenField=&search=Search
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: neveragain on July 11, 2012, 19:19
This place you describe sounds very similar to the freedom center in Albion Mi   I am glad you got out and didn't end up working there as so many do and hope you are doing well
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 11, 2012, 21:19
This place you describe sounds very similar to the freedom center in Albion Mi   I am glad you got out and didn't end up working there as so many do and hope you are doing well

Yes, if they are not one and the same, they're affiliated.
Title: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: NeedhelpinIowa on July 26, 2012, 11:56
In our desperation to find help for my brother, we got sucked into the Best Drug Rehab in Manistee, MI. He detoxed Saturday through yesterday, and then last night made it to the actual rehab center. He was supposed to call last night and hasn't, and now his intake counselers cell phone has been disconnected. We were up all night scouring the Internet and are beside ourselves. We are on our way (14 hour drive) to Manistee to pick him up now, but would love any advice or feedback on what to do or say when we get there. Will they let him go without a fight? I'm so overwhelmed. Please help!

Sarah
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: NeedhelpinIowa on July 26, 2012, 12:11
I would be interested in the same information about Best Drug Rehab in Michigan. I would love any advice at all, honestly.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 13:23
I would be interested in the same information about Best Drug Rehab in Michigan. I would love any advice at all, honestly.

Hello, NeedhelpinIowa, I really can't help unless I have more information ( which should not be posted on the internet.)

At the below link, you will find an article with a confidential questionaire I  have people copy, paste and email me back if they have complaints about Narconon and other related scientology front groups. You can fill in what details you want and if you email it back to me ( address is noted at the end of it) I will get back to you with options on what yoyur options are. Every complaint is different.

I created this questionaire to help me make sure the facts of one complaint are all in one place. I get many complaints. Anything you send me is held in strictest confidence.

Victims Of Scientology: Complaints & Concerns About Narconon
http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.com/2009/01/victims-of-scientology-complaints.html

Mary

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 26, 2012, 18:14
Call the police in Manistee and ask them to be there when you go to pick him up.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 18:27
In our desperation to find help for my brother, we got sucked into the Best Drug Rehab in Manistee, MI. He detoxed Saturday through yesterday, and then last night made it to the actual rehab center. He was supposed to call last night and hasn't, and now his intake counselers cell phone has been disconnected. We were up all night scouring the Internet and are beside ourselves. We are on our way (14 hour drive) to Manistee to pick him up now, but would love any advice or feedback on what to do or say when we get there. Will they let him go without a fight? I'm so overwhelmed. Please help!

Sarah

Don't allow him or yourselves to sign ANYTHING.

Contact us when you get back. PM me if you want help with trying to get your money back.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 18:33
A Forever recovery is doing business as ( aka )

A Forever Recovery 216 Saint Mary's Lake Road
Battle Creek, MI 49017
US
Phone: 269-964-6731
http://www.carf.org/providerProfile.aspx?cid=226727
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: NeedhelpinIowa on July 26, 2012, 19:52
Thank you so much for the replies.

We haven't actually paid the remainder of the bill yet, only the $3,500 to "get him in the door." Are we legally obligated to pay the rest?

Mary, I will sit down with my brother tonight or tomorrow on the ride home and have him fill out that questionnaire. Than you for that.

Do you really think its necessary to involve the police? That's an honest question, I just don't know what to expect!

Thanks again for the help.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 26, 2012, 19:57
Thank you so much for the replies.

Do you really think its necessary to involve the police? That's an honest question, I just don't know what to expect!

Thanks again for the help.

You're welcome! Some parents have had difficulty getting Narconon to release their kids to them. I would suggest asking the police to meet you there.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 20:30
Thanks for the update. Don't pay a penny more. I will look things over and advise you of what your rights and obligations are based upon the laws of your state and that of MI.

Definately have an officer accompany you. They do this all the time. If you want to be comfortable with this, go to the sheriff or local police, call Narconon from there and say you are in town to pickup your son NOW and that you will bering the authorities with you if they do not release him.

Please make sure you have a place to get your brotherrehab help as soon as you get home. Private message me if you are not sure where to start in looking.  Have him consider NA or AA meeting to start but keep an eye on him 24/7 until you find another place to send him or you may lose him to drugs/alcohol right away.
Best wishes,  Mary
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on July 26, 2012, 20:34
Thank you so much for the replies.

We haven't actually paid the remainder of the bill yet, only the $3,500 to "get him in the door." Are we legally obligated to pay the rest?

Mary, I will sit down with my brother tonight or tomorrow on the ride home and have him fill out that questionnaire. Than you for that.

Do you really think its necessary to involve the police? That's an honest question, I just don't know what to expect!

Thanks again for the help.

Hi Sarah, and welcome to the Tipping Point. 

Whether you are obligated to pay the remainder depends on what you may have signed.  Check your papers for anything about a refund.  Personally, I would refuse to pay any more.  I don't believe if you're picking him up that Narconon, oops, Best Drug Rehabilitation will insist.

Whether or not it becomes necessary to involve the police, it's not a bad idea.  That way will avoid your having any trouble, and will also let the police know there is something that needs to be watched there.

Just say that you're there to pick him up because you changed your mind.  I agree with Mary, do not sign anything, nothing, even if they say it's just a routine whatever.

Good luck to your family, please let us know how it went once you're all back at home.

(I'm merging your other thread into this one so everything's in one place.)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 20:47
 

Whether you are obligated to pay the remainder depends on what you may have signed.  Check your papers for anything about a refund.  Personally, I would refuse to pay any more.  I don't believe if you're picking him up that Narconon, oops, Best Drug Rehabilitation will insist.

 

We can't prove it's a Narconon and from the info patients or loved ones have sent me , and from my research of the place, it's not a Narconon . It may have the sauna componient but no proof of licensing it. The withdrawal may be the same but. no proof. They have several peer reviewed counseling programs there which patients choose from according to their needs before they start. No Narconon would have these. Just saying......
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on July 26, 2012, 20:52
It may not bear the name "Narconon", but it sounds like a Narconon to me, based on this other report: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10723.0.html

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 26, 2012, 21:00
It may not bear the name "Narconon", but it sounds like a Narconon to me, based on this other report: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10723.0.html

It's hard to believe that anyone else would be offering Scientology's training routines. I agree that many other aspects of the site don't resemble Narconon. I thought it might be a new low in deceptive advertising. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 26, 2012, 21:59
It may not bear the name "Narconon", but it sounds like a Narconon to me, based on this other report: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10723.0.html

OK, perhaps they are using the books but this is the first i have heard of it. Of course, I have been off the radar for a bit on and off over the last year so perhaps I missed something but my guess is that they included certain therapies in their program in order to gain CARF certification. Best Drug Rehab states that they give 1:1 counseling:
http://www.bestdrugrehabilitation.com/treatment-phases/one-on-one-counseling/

A Forever Recovery offers ( offered?) at least in early 2012, several different therapies . You can see this mentioned in the following correspondence between a woman who wrote me and my reply to her.
2 emails, received early 2012 froim which I obtained some of the info about other therapies ( which I later researched):

[..] Mary,

My goodness, am I glad I have found your voice on the internet! I have noticed your name attached to many impressive and intelligently written contributions to websites and forums about Scientology and Narconon. I've never been around Scientology nor have I or anyone close to me gone to a Narconon facility. Recently though, my xxxxxxXXX entered A Forever Recovery and now I'm trying to find out everything I can about it and Narconon and Scientology because the place just doesn't sit quite right with me. After searching for two weeks for information on Pamela Anderson, I found your following post on whyweprotest.net:

"All staff from Narconon Stonehawk went to work at A Forever recovery until Narcnon Freedom Center was legally set up. This as due to legal and tax problems Per and Kathleen Wickstroms had with each other as owners of Stonehawk and with Narconon International. Kathleen Wichstrom sued Per and Narconon Int while Per Wickstrom's brother, who runs Wickstrom Chevrolet, ran A Forever Recovery. He now has his car company corporate secretary, Pamela Anderson, running A Forever Recovery. She is listed as an officer with the state. This was also done to prevent Kathleen fromgetting at assets of Stonehawk. That backfired and they settled in court with her last year."

That is the best explanation I've seen of it's formation!

My XXXX entered rehab for alcohol abuse 3 weeks ago at A Forever Recovery. He underwent detox at a hospital prior to his admittance there, thank goodness. Two weeks ago I came across google reviews for AFR which lead me to ripoffreport which lead me to dig deeper and deeper online for information about the place. At that time, in my horror, I contacted my XXXX's XXXXXX with my concerns about the complaints I had read online, but XXX assured me that everything is ok with A Forever Recovery, it's not the same owners, it has nothing to do with Scientology, I must have been looking at reviews from when it was a Narconon facility, etc.. etc... He even had the intake counselor, Darwin (who completed the program there three years ago), call me to allay my fears, discuss the program, and answer all of my questions.

In spite of its dubious beginnings, do you know if my XXXXXXX can be effectively rehabilitated there? Is Pamela Anderson is a scientologist? Even if she is, does that necessarily mean the patients are exposed to it - or are there good people who come in and work one-on-one with the patients, oblivious to Scientology as a backdrop? Is AFR a front for Scientology? I guess I mainly want to know if my XXXXXXX is safe there and experiencing authentic rehab practices, to your knowledge. BTW, he is a XX-year-old male who knows what he believes, which perhaps insulates him from potential recruiting tactics. I know the interventionist begrudgingly referred him to AFR (but had no alternative due to insurance), managing to weakly tell me "they have a good program there".

I would greatly appreciate any additional information you may have about A Forever Recovery and how they conduct MRT/CBT (is it straight-up or do they put their own spin on it?). I do hope my XXXXX can take something away from his experience there and I believe he would be able to smell a rat. He called his XXXXX within the last few days and apparently sounded great. I don't know any details of their conversation.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this email.
[..]

My reply:

Dear ......,
 
Thank you so much for going out of your way to track me down for answers to your questions. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner but I have been away for a few days and just received your email.
 
First I want to assure you that if  XXXXXX is doing well in his recovery so far and is interested in the MRT/CBT, go for it.  The MRT is evidence an based therapy * and has to be done by trained professionals and done so by the book in order to claim it's use at a facility. You can find more info here.
http://nrepp.samhsa.gov/ViewIntervention.aspx?id=34
 
Narconon and Scientology do not use any therapy in their programs.  They are hostile to any mental health program in general, and the industry itself. I looked over their site and saw what they are offering and 90% would never be offered by Narconon.
 
The exceptions are the sauna detox and vitamin program ( dangerous, especially for the liver):
Ref: Scientology Purification Detox Evaluation Rebuttal by Cambridge Environmental Research report on the Scientology Purification Detox Evaluation, 'a pseudo scientific study done on Scientology's Purification aka Narconon' program.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19462759/Scientology-Purification-Detox-Evaluation-Rebuttal-by-Cambridge-Environmental-
 
They may use the Life Skills program that would include Scientology 'ethics condition formulas' found in the personal integrity book and ups and downs in life course. Here are links to the Narconon materials 'students' study
 
Book 2 is the : The New Life Detoxification Program Delivery Manual
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/detoxbookpt2.htm

Below are the individual links to each of the other Narconon books. They come in pdf format. They were uploaded and posted about on  hyweprotest a couple of years ago, here
Leaking Narconon Course Packs and material
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/leaking-narconon-course-packs-material-48722/

Many people have downloaded them and they are virus safe.
(NOTE: SEE NARCONON BOOKS THREAD HERE FOR CURRENT LINKS TO THESE BOOKS)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TWGVL8G2  book 1  Therapeutic TR Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YEQWPRAW  book 3  Learning Improvement Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KTJ95MB1  book 4a Communication & Perception Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WCR26YYA  book 4b Communication & Perception Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M1OHU2CF  book 5  Ups & Downs in Life Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HVH6J1C5  book 6  Personal Values and Integrity Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M3ZVB1B0  book 7  Changing Conditions in Life Course
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U70HBDS7  book 8  The Way to Happiness Course

These books are presented within this video report on Narconon

YouTube - Narconon Exposed (Scientology, a new drug?) (part 1/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6tO4rx0RbE

YouTube - Narconon Exposed (Scientology, a new drug?) (part 2/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMYf4tdkS2Q

I do know that AFR requires 'clients' or 'students' to 'write up' things observed that are not allowed, snitching and such. That culture can get so out of hand. It is not unheard of for a patient to be given $10 and dropped off at the nearest state border motel if he violates the rules.  Narconon does spy and listen in on phone calls and I am not sure if they do this at AFR but do be alert to it if your friend sounds vague and can't talk....  Staff will deny doing the and it could cause a problem if they know you are searching the internet.
 
Your XXXXXXX may find that there are things going on there, like drug use or staff having sex with patients ( not unheard of at AFR and Narconon) but if the place is controlled well enough it should be ok. There was, however, the recent report at ripoff about bedbugs there, in November. You may want to have your xxxxxx's XXXXXXX make sure that is still not an issue.
 
There are some other things you need to know regarding Narconon and Scientology influences over at  A Forever Recovery (AFR), like the fact that half the staff at least are former graduates and employees of other Narconons. This guy Darwin Dixon was trained by Narconon and attended Narconon back in 2006 or 2007. I have complaints from people going back that far that include his name from the Narconon in Palm Desert and he is registered as a licended counselor from that faclity. You can see by looking up his name ( with Palm Desert CA as the location noted :
http://www.addiction-specialists.com/profile.php?id=16906
 
Murray Dailey, the AFR Senior Director of Intake is a longtime Narconon graduate and counselor , first working for Narconon Stonehawk.
 
Back in 2008 there was a news story about AFR starting:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/4fd559e9725fb50f
 
No one believed them, especially because of the lawsuits by Kathleen Wickstrom claiming it was a scam setr up by Narconon and her ex to avoid paying her. According to their original agreement, neither was supposed to own a 12 step company once they 'lost' their licence from Narconon ( which she claims  they were in collusion with Per only done to avoid paying her.
 
AFR also runs different websites in the same manner as Narconon does. Changing the name around "Recovered Forever" or not disclosing ownership like at   4rehabilitation.com , or here on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Drug-Rehab-Referral-Service/325568779424#!/pages/The-Drug-Rehab-Referral-Service/325568779424?sk=info
 
but if the services are what they claim them to be, especially the therapy, it can only help your friend.
 
The fact is, the activities have changed alot since I wrote that comment over at whyweprotest.net:
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/rip-david-vantrease.56048/page-3#post-1163207
 
They are probably using the MRT as they claimed. As well, I erred in stating that the owner, "Doug Wickstrom", was the brother of the former owner Per Wickstrom. It seems that it was his father of the same name. Pamela Anderson worked for Wickstom Chevrolet and acted as corporate Secretary for the father's car company when the father helped son Per Wickstrom set up AFR to get around having to pay his wife Kathleen a contractual agreement they had related to her leaving Narconon and being the co-owner of their TIA Corp business that owned and rented property out to others including Narconon Stonehawk ( including the St Mary's property where AFR is now. TIA Corp is their landlord).
 
The father Douglas Sr , however, hasn't. He got stuck with a bad credit record and some debt as you can see below in an appeal he lost. Proof Per helped start AFR as Kathleen claimed.
 
Wickstrom v. Experian July 1, 2010
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF MICHIGAN SOUTHERN DIVISION

"Plaintiff stopped working for Narconon in June 2008, and the credit card account went delinquent that month. Plaintiff reported that he stopped working for Narconon because the company had "bad financial problems." (Plf. Dep. at 13). Plaintiff and his son started a new corporation in June 2008. The new corporation, "A Forever Recovery," was in the same business as Narconon and it used the same Battle Creek address. (Ex. 2; Plf. Dep. at 16-17, 21, 23, 77-78, 89-90)."
http://mi.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20100701_0001157.WMI.htm/qx
 
American Express is being sued by AFR for garnishing that money, since AFR was Narconon Stonehawk at the time of getting the credit:
 
A Forever Recovery. Inc sues American Express in 2011
Court Case #2011-0000002837 NZ
Case Overview
Case Number 2011-0000002837
Case Type OTHER DAMAGE SUITS
Judge KINGSLEY,JAMES C.,
Prosecutor   
Additional Case Information: [Parties] [Charges]
Parties [ Top ]
Party Name Party Type Attorney of Record
AMERICAN EXPRESS COMPANY DEFENDANT NA
A FOREVER RECOVERY INC PLAINTIFF SLOT,PHILLIP BENJAMIN,
https://mcc.co.calhoun.mi.us/details.php?c=2011+0000002837&se=party#parties
 
I think Doug Sr wishes he'd never helped his son out in setting up this up because Kathleen Wickstrom sued Per and Narconon International soon after finding out about the whole scam and she probably received not only what was due her but much more. The scam, is discussed in full in her lawsuit complaint which can be found here:
 
AFR was never intended to appear to be a Narconon. It was supposed to be different so that Kathleen Wickstrom would not know and see that her ex was funneling the customers to his new place to avoid paying her.   
 
Pamela Anderson is not a scientologist as far as I know. Neither is Douglas Sr. Kathleen isn't either. Matter of fact, I suspect Per Wickstrom is no longer one after Narconon International was sued. He's kept a very low profile since: 
See Per Wickstrom - Scientology Service Completions
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/per-wickstrom.html
 
So, I think that, despite all that and given the fact that AFR is not run like Narconon for the most part and that they offer real therapy, your friend should not have too much Scientology and Narconon influence to worry about there. However, people have made complaints about the facility which are on the internet. 
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/A-Forever-Recovery.aspx
http://www.sober.com/forums/1204.aspx
http://www.sober.com/forums/t/14568/has+anyone+heard+of++a+forever+recovery+rehab+in+michigan+need+infofeedback.aspx?pageindex=3
 
Anyway, I hope I have answered your questiuons well enough and have brought a better understanding of what the program is and isn't from what I could tell. When  it comes to taking someone out of a Narconon program, my motto is 'if it aint broken, don't fix it.' Rehab is hard and if your friend is trying hard, nearly done. He wants the help so keep him there. Any therapy is better than no therapy but MRT* looks like a worthwhile program.
 
Let me know how it goes for him .
 
Mary 
*More on MRT: Moral Reconation Therapy, MRT® is the premiere Cognitive-Behavioral program for offender populations and only trained and certified MRT facilitators are permitted to conduct these highly effective and specialized groups.
 
Most of the Good Success services and interventions we offer are based on the Cognitive-Behavioral Model (CBT), and utilize Evidenced-Based Cognitive-Behavioral treatment materials — specifically, MRT®.
 
MRT® has been included in SAMHSA's National Registry of Evidence-based Programs and Practices. It is the premiere cognitive-behavioral program for substance abuse treatment and offender populations, including parole and probation settings, outpatient programs, educational settings and drug courts.
 
It was developed in 1985 by Dr. Gregory Little and Dr. Kenneth Robinson, and over 120 published outcomes have documented that MRT®-treated offenders show significantly lower recidivism for periods as long as 10-years after treatment. The approach leads to increased participation rates, increased program completion rates, decreased disciplinary infractions, and beneficial changes in personality characteristics.  All MRT® groups must be operated by MRT®-certified facilitators -- professional staff who complete 32-hour training.
 
Definition of MRT®
The term moral refers to moral reasoning level based on Kohlberg's levels of cognitive reasoning. The word reconation comes from the psychological terms conative and conation, which refer to the process of making conscious decisions. MRT® is a cognitive-behavioral system that leads to enhanced moral reasoning, better decision making, and more appropriate behavior.
For More Information About MRT® visit www.ccimrt.com
http://www.goodsuccessclassrooms.com/#/what-is-mrt/4539698586

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Her reply:

Mary,

Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful email. I really appreciate your taking the time to respond in such detail. Thanks for all the links too. It's nice to have all those materials as well for informational purposes.

Well, I wrote to you out of concern for XXXXXXXXX. He will be completing the program at AFR this Friday. We have written letters to each other over the past several weeks. It's clear he is seeing many of the things I read about which you confirmed (I had seen those comments on Ripoff Report and Sober.com - they are what had me the most concerned in the first place) and yes, I was mindful of the phone possibly being tapped although he never did call; he said they have to stand in line to use pay phones and there is no privacy. I was careful in my letters too in case they read mail - I agree I did not want to put him in a compromising position by letting on that I had come across any unseemly information on AFR, nor did I want to alarm him.

Although he tried to be positive and complain little in his letters he did mention he'll have lots of stories to share with me when we see each other, they are under surveillance 24/7, there is no real recreation there as advertised and he's aware of flagrant lies on the website (through others there) to lure people in, people have left in the night... He also was suspicious of how they conduct CBT there (although I don't know what he would be comparing it too) and was fearful of being brainwashed; he switched from CBT to MRT. 

I was surprised to learn he spent his first week (or much of it) in detox since he had just been released from detox in a hospital a day prior to his admittance. Apparently, it's mandatory there - the family's first choice for a rehab center (which is accredited but wouldn't accept his insurance) would have placed him directly into the rehab portion of his stay. (I also noticed that AFR is not accredited) He had to do extensive writing exercises in detox in preparation for therapy. (How is that detox??) He didn't mention the sauna or vitamins but I guess I'll hear about that soon enough. He's in a room with 6 beds and one bathroom for them to share. Oh and he mentioned there are no drugs/medications allowed on site, save Advil, which makes me wonder if he was able to get his daily blood pressure medication from a nurse like Darwin said he would. I hope they are checking his blood pressure too. The most alarming thing he mentioned is that if someone needs medical attention/surgery/breaks an arm, they have the choice to either tough it out or go home. wow. seriously? They have daily chores, which I suppose could be alright but I wonder if other rehab centers have this practice.

On a positive note, he has cranked through the program, spending all his free time on homework and mentions having more clarity than he's ever had, and has had to face everything that contributed to his drinking problem in the first place and how he has hurt others. He's there for the right reasons and has applied himself so I am hopeful for his maintained sobriety. He's finished there this week already. He said it's been hard work and emotional at times, but his outlook seems optimistic. It will be good to see him again and very interesting to finally talk with him. I was able to have a chat last week with a counselor there, Joe Guajardo. Do you know of him?

Lastly, I wanted to show you this in case you haven't noticed it on their website. Although I don't necessarily believe XXXXX was exposed to Scientology, or at least not to too much of an extent, I do somewhat still question it's relationship to AFR, former Narconon graduates aside. If you look at the staff's credentials on the website, you'll notice some of them were certified by PITA Group. The certs are even signed by W. Kent McGregor! Isn't that strange they'd show that on their site if they want to distance themselves from Scientology?

http://foreverrecovery.com/stephen-anderson/
http://foreverrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/SPAcadcweb1.jpg

Of course this isn't the main site I was looking at (which is stopyouraddiction.com, the domain name formerly used by Stonehawk, right?), but it's where the main site directs you to if you are looking for staff. When I googled PITA, I came across your very interesting comments to Louis Catton last February here: http://www.thecleanslate.org/new-face-of-recovery-is-a-front-for-narconon-and-scientology/ Go Mary!

Oh, as an interesting aside, when I first tried contacting AFR through the main number on their site (877-456-3313), the girl answering the phone asked me which location I was trying to reach! I took this to mean Battle Creek versus the Narconon Freedom Center; if you google the number you'll see they share it. Again, this seems sloppy if they AFR maintains it has no affiliation with Narconon or "the previous owner".

Although my XXXXXX is seeing all the weird stuff there for himself, I'm not sure to what extent I should disclose my knowledge of the same things. I want him to feel good about what he did and all the effort he put into his recovery at AFR and I do believe he has gotten out what he put in, but it will difficult to play dumb when it comes up. Maybe I won't say anything unless he directly asks if I knew any of this. Should I share the materials you sent me so he can see if any of what he did was lifted from them? If it were me, I'd want to be informed but I'm not sure if it would potentially be discouraging to him. Maybe I'll hold off a while on that.

Thank you again for your generous response to my email.


In looking at the Best Rehab site, it looks like they use the TRs and Objectives, at least since 2009 per archive.org
http://www.bestdrugrehabilitation.com/treatment-phases/steps-to-successful-treatment/

http://web.archive.org/web/20101025040732/http://www.bestdrugrehabilitation.com/3steps/3steps.html
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 26, 2012, 22:03
 

Whether you are obligated to pay the remainder depends on what you may have signed.  Check your papers for anything about a refund.  Personally, I would refuse to pay any more.  I don't believe if you're picking him up that Narconon, oops, Best Drug Rehabilitation will insist.

 
If it is not a NarCONon entity then what is it? Their website is beyond vague when talking about how or what treatment for a particular addiction is available. Is there a link I am missing that gives actual treatment information?

We can't prove it's a Narconon and from the info patients or loved ones have sent me , and from my research of the place, it's not a Narconon . It may have the sauna componient but no proof of licensing it. The withdrawal may be the same but. no proof. They have several peer reviewed counseling programs there which patients choose from according to their needs before they start. No Narconon would have these. Just saying......
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: who me? on July 26, 2012, 22:12
Here is a link to a Best Drug Rehab article that says Per Wickstrom started it:
http://www.addictionpro.com/article/payment-system-among-unconventional-aspects-treatment-center-michigan

If not a narconon, it is a narconon knock-off.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 26, 2012, 22:16
Here is a link to a Best Drug Rehab article that says Per Wickstrom started it:
http://www.addictionpro.com/article/payment-system-among-unconventional-aspects-treatment-center-michigan

If not a narconon, it is a narconon knock-off.
Intersting. I went to their website http://www.bestdrugrehabilitation.com/treatment-phases/faith-based-recovery/ and found this.

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Types of Faith-Based Study Offered At Best Drug Rehabilitation:

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Click Religion To Learn More


Baptist
Buddhism
Catholic
Christian
Disciples of Christ
Episcopalian / Anglican
Full Gospel
Hinduism
Islam
Jehovah’s Witness
Jewish Christians
Judaism
Lutheran
Mennonite
Methodist / Wesleyan
Mormon / Latter-day Saints/ LDS
Native American Religion
Non-Denominational
Presbyterian
Protestant
Scientology
Seventh-Day Adventist
Spiritualist

Thing is when I clicked "Scientology" that link no workie! Very interesting. They list Scientology  but do not list the following.

Nuwaubianism

The Church of Euthanasia

Prince Philip Movement

Church of the SubGenius

Universe People

Creativity Movement

Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth

Nation of Yahweh

Church of All Worlds
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: who me? on July 26, 2012, 22:34
I think Per is applying the "smoke and mirrors" cloaking technology, if not to hide the truth from potential clients, then from his ex who may still have a bone to pick, even if only out of spite.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 26, 2012, 22:43
I think Per is applying the "smoke and mirrors" cloaking technology, if not to hide the truth from potential clients, then from his ex who may still have a bone to pick, even if only out of spite.
Could be. I would imagine that once you paid the upfront fees then walked through the doors of this facility buyers remorse would soon follow.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 26, 2012, 22:44
I think Per is applying the "smoke and mirrors" cloaking technology, if not to hide the truth from potential clients, then from his ex who may still have a bone to pick, even if only out of spite.

Thanks for your insights, who me? Keep posting!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: NeedhelpinIowa on July 27, 2012, 00:33
Thank you everyone. He is out and he is safe and he is NOT brainwashed. Just incredibly angry at all of the "professionals" that preyed on his desperation to get sober. This is not the end of this, that is for sure. We are ANGRY.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 27, 2012, 08:03
Thank you everyone. He is out and he is safe and he is NOT brainwashed. Just incredibly angry at all of the "professionals" that preyed on his desperation to get sober. This is not the end of this, that is for sure. We are ANGRY.

Thanks again.

You're welcome and glad he's ok. Mary McConnell offered some additional assistance. Take her up on it. Best to you and your family moving forward!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on July 27, 2012, 08:54
Thank you everyone. He is out and he is safe and he is NOT brainwashed. Just incredibly angry at all of the "professionals" that preyed on his desperation to get sober. This is not the end of this, that is for sure. We are ANGRY.

Thanks again.

That is great news!  I'm so glad to hear it.  I'm glad you were alert to a missing call and a cell phone being disconnected.  I hope you'll let us know how you're all doing as things proceed.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: billybob on July 27, 2012, 16:51
Checked out this place on Google Maps and saw a bunch of reviews, 5 were positive and one was negative.

So, I just posted this review of Best Rehab on Google Maps:

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Best Drug Rehabilitation Services
300 Care Center Drive, Manistee, MI 49660
Billy Bob
reviewed recently
Quality 0 / 3
If someone you love needs treatment, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SEND THEM HERE! This is a Scientology cult based treatment center (Narconon) and most of the money spent toward treatment goes to throw half million dollar birthday parties for Tom Cruise. Seriously! It is based on the non-scientific and non-medically peer reviewed program of detox invented by L Ron Hubbard who never got a college degree. They force you to take large quantities of vitamins including huge doses of Niacin which can damage the liver. They do not test your liver function until after you have gone through detox, so any liver damage caused by the huge toxic Niacin doses cannot be blamed on the program... They'll tell you that it was because of your drug or alcohol abuse and you'll believe them because you are completely vulnerable. There have been 5 deaths at Narconon facilities that use this detox method. After detox, the program consists of Scientology training (they have different covers for the workbooks but it is the same material used in Scientology.) They will tell you to stare at an ashtray and then command the ashtray to stand up and sit down. Why? Because that's part of Scientology indoctrination! PLEASE GOOGLE these words and learn more: NARCONON and SCIENTOLOGY
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 27, 2012, 17:06
Checked out this place on Google Maps and saw a bunch of reviews, 5 were positive and one was negative.

So, I just posted this review of Best Rehab on Google Maps:

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Best Drug Rehabilitation Services
300 Care Center Drive, Manistee, MI 49660
Billy Bob
reviewed recently
Quality 0 / 3
If someone you love needs treatment, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SEND THEM HERE! This is a Scientology cult based treatment center (Narconon) and most of the money spent toward treatment goes to throw half million dollar birthday parties for Tom Cruise. Seriously! It is based on the non-scientific and non-medically peer reviewed program of detox invented by L Ron Hubbard who never got a college degree. They force you to take large quantities of vitamins including huge doses of Niacin which can damage the liver. They do not test your liver function until after you have gone through detox, so any liver damage caused by the huge toxic Niacin doses cannot be blamed on the program... They'll tell you that it was because of your drug or alcohol abuse and you'll believe them because you are completely vulnerable. There have been 5 deaths at Narconon facilities that use this detox method. After detox, the program consists of Scientology training (they have different covers for the workbooks but it is the same material used in Scientology.) They will tell you to stare at an ashtray and then command the ashtray to stand up and sit down. Why? Because that's part of Scientology indoctrination! PLEASE GOOGLE these words and learn more: NARCONON and SCIENTOLOGY
Makes sense to me!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 27, 2012, 17:25
Checked out this place on Google Maps and saw a bunch of reviews, 5 were positive and one was negative.

So, I just posted this review of Best Rehab on Google Maps:

Quote
Best Drug Rehabilitation Services
300 Care Center Drive, Manistee, MI 49660
Billy Bob
reviewed recently
Quality 0 / 3
If someone you love needs treatment, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SEND THEM HERE! This is a Scientology cult based treatment center (Narconon) and most of the money spent toward treatment goes to throw half million dollar birthday parties for Tom Cruise. Seriously! It is based on the non-scientific and non-medically peer reviewed program of detox invented by L Ron Hubbard who never got a college degree. They force you to take large quantities of vitamins including huge doses of Niacin which can damage the liver. They do not test your liver function until after you have gone through detox, so any liver damage caused by the huge toxic Niacin doses cannot be blamed on the program... They'll tell you that it was because of your drug or alcohol abuse and you'll believe them because you are completely vulnerable. There have been 5 deaths at Narconon facilities that use this detox method. After detox, the program consists of Scientology training (they have different covers for the workbooks but it is the same material used in Scientology.) They will tell you to stare at an ashtray and then command the ashtray to stand up and sit down. Why? Because that's part of Scientology indoctrination! PLEASE GOOGLE these words and learn more: NARCONON and SCIENTOLOGY

Thank you, billybob!! Every m,essage on the internet helps!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: billybob on July 27, 2012, 17:43
I don't know, but I think I might have stumbled on a good strategy?!?!

A lot of people will use Google Maps to get directions.  I'm thinking that there is a good chance that those Moms and Dads who are going to drive their kids to these remote locations will check out Google Maps first, and maybe see the reviews there.

Of course I will be interested in seeing if the Scilons have ways of removing these reviews.  I think I will test this by doing some more...
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: mefree on July 27, 2012, 17:47
Great idea!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 27, 2012, 20:06
I don't know, but I think I might have stumbled on a good strategy?!?!

A lot of people will use Google Maps to get directions.  I'm thinking that there is a good chance that those Moms and Dads who are going to drive their kids to these remote locations will check out Google Maps first, and maybe see the reviews there.

Of course I will be interested in seeing if the Scilons have ways of removing these reviews.  I think I will test this by doing some more...

Good idea. FYI, you need to register with Google to post on them and it's been suggested that one might need to register with more than one email address if they want to give more than one review. I believe this is how Narconon gets all this positive reviews posted within a week or so of each other for each facility.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: cischroed on August 12, 2012, 13:16
Best Drug Rehab (or BDR) is definitely a Scientology program. My son is the one we were discussing at the beginning of this thread. The BDR website is totally inaccurate and not what you get when you get to the program. The only "faith" you can choose from is Scientology. You have to read L Ron Hubbard books and do TR's before you can get any priveleges such as attending a simple AA meeting. Trust me - you do not want to use this place for alcohol or drug treatment!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Anewdawn on August 12, 2012, 14:28
I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on August 12, 2012, 14:48
Best Drug Rehab (or BDR) is definitely a Scientology program. My son is the one we were discussing at the beginning of this thread. The BDR website is totally inaccurate and not what you get when you get to the program. The only "faith" you can choose from is Scientology. You have to read L Ron Hubbard books and do TR's before you can get any priveleges such as attending a simple AA meeting. Trust me - you do not want to use this place for alcohol or drug treatment!

 :w:e:l:c:o:m:e:

I am SO glad your daughter (?) was able to find this site and get some advice for when you picked your son up from Best Drug Rehab!  I hope it went smoothly for all of you.  How is your son doing, if you don't mind me asking?

I believe BDR is a Narconon-in-Disguise, trying to avoid Narconon's bad reputation.  Thanks so much for confirming those suspicions, and for posting. 

Michigan's Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-35299_28150_30419-47447--,00.html) needs to hear about Best Drug Rehab, and its false advertising, as well as any quality of care; misconduct, or scope-of-practice issues. 

I also hope you will report the false information you found on their website and how you were defrauded to the FTC (Federal Trade Commission (http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/about.shtm)) and the Internet Crime Complaint Center (http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx) (IC3):
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

The FTC does not handle individual complaints, but adds the complaints to their database for investigation and prosecutions when enough people have complained, so it is important for everyone who has been defrauded by a rehab to add their voice.

The IC3 provides information and refers complaints to the appropriate federal, state, local, and international law enforcement and regulatory agencies.  They accept 3rd party reports, so anyone who has information about fraud can report to them.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 12, 2012, 14:50
I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?

Unfortunately, it's not so simple. You do have a better chance of gettiing a refund because of the situation and time he was there but there are no guarantees. You can do a credit card chargeback but it has to be done correctly. Its a complicated process. I can assist you with this. 
Mary

edited to delete message to another poster
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on August 12, 2012, 14:58
I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?

Welcome to Tipping Point, Anewdawn.  I hope your son is doing alright now. 

How did you find Best Drug Rehab?  On the internet?  I believe that everyone who has been defrauded by this place should make a complaint to the Michigan agency linked in my response to cischroed above.  If you found BDR through a web site, or an internet referral site, you should make complaints with the other 2 agencies in the post above.

You will need to approach BDR first about getting your money back.  If you don't get it back from them, there are other steps you can take, which we can elaborate on.  Each individual situation is different, even though the experiences and complaints are similar.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: who me? on August 12, 2012, 15:16
You can get good suggestions from ethercat and Mary.
I would also urge you go to the FTC and complain about the fraudulent advertising and how much it cost you. They seem to take complaints from those who have lost money more seriously than from people who have only seen the ads on line. Maybe with more voices, they will listen and act faster.
https://www.FTCComplaintAssistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 12, 2012, 15:20
Go to the FTC and complain about the fraudulent advertising and how much it cost you. They seem to take complaints from those who have lost money more seriously than from people who have only seen the ads on line filing complaints. Maybe with more voices, they will listen and act faster.
https://www.FTCComplaintAssistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
Good post, who me? !
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: who me? on August 12, 2012, 15:23
Hi Mary, I was modifying my post when you responded. I modified the post to make sure I was not distracting from the good work you do and just add my voice to the call for filing a complaint. When I find fraud on-line, I tend to report it, hoping that they will get enough complaints to expend the resources and act.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 12, 2012, 15:48
Hi Mary, I was modifying my post when you responded. I modified the post to make sure I was not distracting from the good work you do and just add my voice to the call for filing a complaint. When I find fraud on-line, I tend to report it, hoping that they will get enough complaints to expend the resources and act.

Thank you :) I seem to have caught the modified message anyway :)
Thank you for all you are doing. That link is important.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: ethercat on August 12, 2012, 18:56
They seem to take complaints from those who have lost money more seriously than from people who have only seen the ads on line. Maybe with more voices, they will listen and act faster.
https://www.FTCComplaintAssistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

Just my 2 cents.

Sad, but true, that their responses are so often reactive, rather than proactive. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 12, 2012, 19:08
Best Drug Rehab (or BDR) is definitely a Scientology program. My son is the one we were discussing at the beginning of this thread. The BDR website is totally inaccurate and not what you get when you get to the program. The only "faith" you can choose from is Scientology. You have to read L Ron Hubbard books and do TR's before you can get any priveleges such as attending a simple AA meeting. Trust me - you do not want to use this place for alcohol or drug treatment!

I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?

By the way,  :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: to you both!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Anewdawn on August 12, 2012, 23:48
I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?
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Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab - Need help ASAP
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 13, 2012, 01:00
I sent my son to the same place. Same complaints. If we are all in this same boat together, how do we all work together to get our money back, and close this darn place down? This is some crazy stuff!!! They are taking advantage of vulnerable people in desperate situations! My 17 year old ran away from the place! Thank God! He was only there for 7 days. I put the bill on credit cards, the credit card companies said it's not fraud unless they used the card without my permission. How do we ban together against this evil disgusting Scientology scam? Are there lawyers out there that have dealt with this before?
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I received your PMs. I will email you a questionaire I give to people to fill out and return to me so that I can have the details in order to help you know your options or to file complaints.

As I stated, it's not a simple matter when it comes to 'everyone' getting together. Each complaint has to be looked at on it's own merits. There are lawyers who take cases but it depends on which rehab, which location and the circumstances of the case. 

Best Rehab is in 2 different counties.

You can contact the clerk of Manistee County for info on the names of plaintiff attorneys on cases against Best Rehabilitation Services in that county, if there are any ( the records are not available on line)
415 Third Street
Manistee, MI 49660
(231) 723-3331
Fax (231) 723-1492
Email: clerk@manisteecountymi.gov 
http://www.manisteecountymi.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63&Itemid=110

or Calhoun county Circuit Court | 37th Circuit Court | Calhoun County

Address
 Calhoun County Justice Center
161 E. Michigan Avenue
Battle Creek, MI 49014-4066
Phone  (269) 969-6530
Fax (269) 969-6663 (Administrative only, not for document filing)
Hours 8:00 am - 12 noon and 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm

Online Record Search:  https://mcc.co.calhoun.mi.us/

Here are the names and addresses of the facilities by county
License
Number Program Name Street Address City Zip Code County
130116 BEST DRUG REHABILITATION 163 NORTH AVENUE BATTLE CREEK 49017 CALHOUN
510026 BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES 300 CARE CENTER DRIVE MANISTEE


49660 MANISTEE
Substance Abuse Program Information
 Program Name : BEST DRUG REHABILITATION License Number : 130116
Address :  163 NORTH AVENUE     Director : AMBER HOWE
 BATTLE CREEK, MI   49017     Phone # : 269/964-7569
 Service Description License Type Begin Date Date Expired
RESIDENTIAL DETOX STANDARD 04/07/2012

Substance Abuse Program Information
 Program Name : BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES License Number : 510026
Address :  300 CARE CENTER DRIVE     Director : RICHARD ALMSTED
 MANISTEE, MI   49660     Phone # : 231/887-4590
 Service Description License Type Begin Date Date Expired
CASE MANAGEMENT STANDARD 11/16/2011 
INTEGRATED TREATMENT STANDARD 11/16/2011 
CAIT STANDARD 11/16/2011 
EARLY INTERVENTION STANDARD 11/16/2011 
RESIDENTIAL DETOX PROVISIONAL 11/16/2011 04/07/2012
RESIDENTIAL STANDARD 11/16/2011 
RESIDENTIAL DETOX TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
INTEGRATED TREATMENT TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
CASE MANAGEMENT TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
CAIT TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
RESIDENTIAL TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
EARLY INTERVENTION TEMPORARY 09/16/2011 12/16/2011
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on September 14, 2012, 16:52
I've merged the two Best Drug Rehab threads.  Carry on.

 L-O-:
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 14, 2012, 17:25
Thanks!

New corporate registrations for BDR on 9/13 on LARA:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/rs_corp.asp?s_button=sname&v_search=Best+Drug+Rehab&hiddenField=&search=Search
No documents available, yet

A Manistee Planning Commission packet for a special use permit for 300 Care Center Drive that tells of Per and Kate's divorce and her financial situation. It mentions TIA.
https://mi-manistee.civicplus.com/archives/42/8-4-11%20PC%20Agenda%20Packet.pdf
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 15, 2012, 00:18
double post
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on September 15, 2012, 11:43
"Substance Abuse Program Information
 Program Name : BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES License Number : 510026
Address :  300 CARE CENTER DRIVE     Director : RICHARD ALMSTED
 MANISTEE, MI   49660     Phone # : 231/887-4590 "

Richard is a Scientologist.  And is also notorious for using cocaine, heroin, pills and alcohol in the very recent past.  He abandoned his wife and kids for long periods leaving them to fend for themselves while he partied it up. 

Dean Kealoha who also works there is known to beat his wife.  Repeatedly and in the very recent past.

Great role models and definitely worthy of running a drug rehab.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 15, 2012, 12:44
"Substance Abuse Program Information
 Program Name : BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES License Number : 510026
Address :  300 CARE CENTER DRIVE     Director : RICHARD ALMSTED
 MANISTEE, MI   49660     Phone # : 231/887-4590 "

Richard is a Scientologist.  And is also notorious for using cocaine, heroin, pills and alcohol in the very recent past.  He abandoned his wife and kids for long periods leaving them to fend for themselves while he partied it up. 

Dean Kealoha who also works there is known to beat his wife.  Repeatedly and in the very recent past.

Great role models and definitely worthy of running a drug rehab.

I guess his wife has had enough. https://mcc.co.calhoun.mi.us/details.php?c=2012+0000001023&se=party
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 16, 2012, 16:22
"Substance Abuse Program Information
 Program Name : BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES License Number : 510026
Address :  300 CARE CENTER DRIVE     Director : RICHARD ALMSTED
 MANISTEE, MI   49660     Phone # : 231/887-4590 "

Richard is a Scientologist.  And is also notorious for using cocaine, heroin, pills and alcohol in the very recent past.  He abandoned his wife and kids for long periods leaving them to fend for themselves while he partied it up. 

Dean Kealoha who also works there is known to beat his wife.  Repeatedly and in the very recent past.

Great role models and definitely worthy of running a drug rehab.

I guess his wife has had enough. https://mcc.co.calhoun.mi.us/details.php?c=2012+0000001023&se=party

Good for her! ( + good catch, mefree :)

He submitted a list of witnesses. Hoep she has a list to submit, too.

It's on record she's gotten Personal Protection orders against him in the past.
https://mcc.co.calhoun.mi.us/details.php?c=2009+0000003443&se=party
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 20, 2012, 22:23
Looks like Per is trying to put Narconon out of business ...

Payment system among the unconventional aspects of treatment center in Michigan
February 13, 2012 by Gary A. Enos, Editor

Best Drug Rehabilitation offers flat rate for residential services

[..]
“They’re getting a result more than a number of days,” says Dan Green, the Manistee-based center’s senior director of expansion. At a rate of $15,900 for anything from a 30-day to a 90-day stay, Best Drug Rehabilitation appears to be avoiding the price shock that is likely experienced by individuals and families examining treatment options on both coasts of the U.S.

If medically supervised detox is needed for a Best Drug Rehabilitation client dependent on substances such as alcohol or benzodiazepines, the overall flat rate for services is $18,400. The program does work with insurance.

Best Drug Rehabilitation has the capacity to serve 175 adults at a time in the residential program, although founder Per Wickstrom says the center would like to keep the census no larger than 100. [..] more....
http://www.addictionpro.com/article/payment-system-among-unconventional-aspects-treatment-center-michigan#comment-3819
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on September 21, 2012, 09:20
Dan probably got yelled at for associating Per with the centers.  If he is the founder, why is he not listed on any licensing or incorporation docs?  Oh yea, he's hiding income and assests from the IRS.




Looks like Per is trying to put Narconon out of business ...

Payment system among the unconventional aspects of treatment center in Michigan
February 13, 2012 by Gary A. Enos, Editor

Best Drug Rehabilitation offers flat rate for residential services

[..]
“They’re getting a result more than a number of days,” says Dan Green, the Manistee-based center’s senior director of expansion. At a rate of $15,900 for anything from a 30-day to a 90-day stay, Best Drug Rehabilitation appears to be avoiding the price shock that is likely experienced by individuals and families examining treatment options on both coasts of the U.S.

If medically supervised detox is needed for a Best Drug Rehabilitation client dependent on substances such as alcohol or benzodiazepines, the overall flat rate for services is $18,400. The program does work with insurance.

Best Drug Rehabilitation has the capacity to serve 175 adults at a time in the residential program, although founder Per Wickstrom says the center would like to keep the census no larger than 100. [..] more....
http://www.addictionpro.com/article/payment-system-among-unconventional-aspects-treatment-center-michigan#comment-3819
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 21, 2012, 11:09
haha! I should send a copy to the IRS and State of Michigan ( and I did make a print-to-pdf copy in case they get it taken it down ;)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: blueeyzntucson on September 29, 2012, 11:22
I just returned home wed from best drug after 2 weeks, my son helped me find rehab by going online, an ntake counselor called back saying my insurance wouldn't cover any rehab n az but there's a great rehab n michigan,my flight would b paid there & home plus he would come see me & get anything I needed said it was christian based, well I never saw the intake counselor I was told detox was same building as rehabbut was 3 hours away n battlecreek & my family didn't know where I was for 8 days. I got to best drug it was dirty clients were mad due to thebsame lies by intake counselors the classes are based on scientology all books by l ron hubbard they take clients off much needed psych meds have u watch the same movies daily on how psych meds are bad. Your 1st week u have to use the phone on speaker n front of a casemanager due to if you leave b4 7days best drug don't get paid, after the week I called my family told them everything about scientology & the lies so my son started process to get me home soon after my call best drug heard I was leaving tries calling clients families back statin were lying & drug seeking,  once they found out I was leaving they took phones put them up& told me until further notice I had to use phones in front of case managers. If clients tried to leave security chased them told them get n van or I put u n it so clients were forced to call the cops n order to leave. Clients do all the cleaning.  My daughter went on ripoff report & soon after I was called noffice & told I have to leave 17 if my daughter retracts her complaint they will reimburse me for my flight& pay for hotel. I was also told 2 days b4 I was leaving if I didn't attend trs I would btaken to a shelter. I'm sorry but I don't believe doing trs ( staring at other cts for 15 mins, bull baiting or telling ashtrays to stand up & sit down) will help my sobriety. Until I went to the hotel they kept me n the office with a security guard for hours & wouldn't let me talk to anyone.worst experience of my life!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on September 29, 2012, 12:36
I just returned home wed from best drug after 2 weeks, my son helped me find rehab by going online, an ntake counselor called back saying my insurance wouldn't cover any rehab n az but there's a great rehab n michigan,my flight would b paid there & home plus he would come see me & get anything I needed said it was christian based, well I never saw the intake counselor I was told detox was same building as rehabbut was 3 hours away n battlecreek & my family didn't know where I was for 8 days. I got to best drug it was dirty clients were mad due to thebsame lies by intake counselors the classes are based on scientology all books by l ron hubbard they take clients off much needed psych meds have u watch the same movies daily on how psych meds are bad. Your 1st week u have to use the phone on speaker n front of a casemanager due to if you leave b4 7days best drug don't get paid, after the week I called my family told them everything about scientology & the lies so my son started process to get me home soon after my call best drug heard I was leaving tries calling clients families back statin were lying & drug seeking,  once they found out I was leaving they took phones put them up& told me until further notice I had to use phones in front of case managers. If clients tried to leave security chased them told them get n van or I put u n it so clients were forced to call the cops n order to leave. Clients do all the cleaning.  My daughter went on ripoff report & soon after I was called noffice & told I have to leave 17 if my daughter retracts her complaint they will reimburse me for my flight& pay for hotel. I was also told 2 days b4 I was leaving if I didn't attend trs I would btaken to a shelter. I'm sorry but I don't believe doing trs ( staring at other cts for 15 mins, bull baiting or telling ashtrays to stand up & sit down) will help my sobriety. Until I went to the hotel they kept me n the office with a security guard for hours & wouldn't let me talk to anyone.worst experience of my life!

Wow.  Welcome to Tipping Point, blueeyzntucson, and thanks for telling us about your experience.  I'm so sorry you went there, but I'm glad your son was able to find the information on the internet that he did, and that you left after 2 weeks.

It's sad to hear they are also trying to brainwash clients against psychiatry by showing movies based on scientology front group CCHR's agenda - CCHR tries to influence legislation in the mental health arena, basically meddling where they have no business in or knowledge about the issues involved. 

Please file complaints with:
Michigan licensing agency for drug rehabs:
http://www6.dleg.state.mi.us/parsers/complaints/onlineform.asp

Federal Trade Commission:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3):
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

The Consumer Protection Department of the Michigan Attorney General:
http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-164-17331-42077--,00.html

I'd also like to ask you to do the independent survey at http://reachingforthetippingpoint.net/narcononsurvey/ .  The information from the survey is being collected to demonstrate patterns in the treatment and behavior of clients by these facilities.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: who me? on September 29, 2012, 14:51
So sorry you had to go thru this awful experience blueeyzntucson.
I hope you have found a better rehab, and don't let this bad experience side track you from getting real help.

Please take ethercat's suggestions and file complaints everywhere possible. Have your kids do the same. You may help save another family the pain your family was subjected to.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 29, 2012, 14:57
I just returned home wed from best drug after 2 weeks, my son helped me find rehab by going online, an ntake counselor called back saying my insurance wouldn't cover any rehab n az but there's a great rehab n michigan,my flight would b paid there & home plus he would come see me & get anything I needed said it was christian based, well I never saw the intake counselor I was told detox was same building as rehabbut was 3 hours away n battlecreek & my family didn't know where I was for 8 days. I got to best drug it was dirty clients were mad due to thebsame lies by intake counselors the classes are based on scientology all books by l ron hubbard they take clients off much needed psych meds have u watch the same movies daily on how psych meds are bad. Your 1st week u have to use the phone on speaker n front of a casemanager due to if you leave b4 7days best drug don't get paid, after the week I called my family told them everything about scientology & the lies so my son started process to get me home soon after my call best drug heard I was leaving tries calling clients families back statin were lying & drug seeking,  once they found out I was leaving they took phones put them up& told me until further notice I had to use phones in front of case managers. If clients tried to leave security chased them told them get n van or I put u n it so clients were forced to call the cops n order to leave. Clients do all the cleaning.  My daughter went on ripoff report & soon after I was called noffice & told I have to leave 17 if my daughter retracts her complaint they will reimburse me for my flight& pay for hotel. I was also told 2 days b4 I was leaving if I didn't attend trs I would btaken to a shelter. I'm sorry but I don't believe doing trs ( staring at other cts for 15 mins, bull baiting or telling ashtrays to stand up & sit down) will help my sobriety. Until I went to the hotel they kept me n the office with a security guard for hours & wouldn't let me talk to anyone.worst experience of my life!

Hi and   :w:e:l:c:o:m:e:. Thank you for telling us about your experience. Wow! Your description is so similar to the narconon cases we've seen over the years. About the phones, about the filth, about the lies. Thank you for confirming what others have experienced. I'm sorry you went through all this.

Glad your daughter posted about it on ripoffreport.com , too. I looked but I couldn't find see anything regarding your specific complaint.  Can you provide a link or a report number? I'd like to see and respond to it there, too.

What was the intake person's name? Bet there are other complaints on the internet about him, too.

Again, thanks. Best wishes in your continued recovery,

Mary
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 29, 2012, 16:15
Welcome to Tipping Point.

There's no excuse for this criminal scam. Despite the fact that many others have described similar experiences at Narconon, the state agencies have failed to act. 

You've already received some great recommendations from others. I hope you will file complaints with the agencies that ethercat linked above.

Congratulations on surviving the nightmare!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 29, 2012, 16:43
By the way, you can't retract a Ripoff Report once it's posted and up -- unless the complaint goes through arbitration and only things found to be false wil then be removed.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Arbitration.aspx
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: enjoy_alienation on October 06, 2012, 23:57
I found this to be an interesting read. It was posted by someone who was a staff member when I was a client there.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/best-drug-rehabilita/cult-organizations/best-drug-rehabilitation-scie-0da23.htm
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on November 05, 2012, 21:52
Unfortunately, there is a new story out of Michigan on Ripoff Report:

    Submitted: Saturday, November 03, 2012
    Last Posting: Saturday, November 03, 2012
    Reported By: Desperate Mother — Clinton Mississippi United States of America


Forever recovery Stone Hawk, Best Drug Rehabilitation, Tranquility Detox HELP OUR SON PLEASE Battle creek, Michigan


Quote
Please help us get our son out of this Scientology/ narconon rehabilitation center. This place is a scam and a very dangerous place for anyone.

My son, 19 is an addict who suffers from ADHD and ODD. He finally decided he wanted to get clean and stay clean once and for all. He truly wants to get his life straight after years of battling these diseases.

Of course that was the best news of my life. I went straight to the I-pad and searched desperately to find the best help possible. I called a man in Florida, who is a recruiter for rehabilitation centers ( so I thought). So I have great ins. But a very high deductible so I was told I needed 10 grand. I didn't have that money just sitting there ya know. So guess what, Florida guy told me it was m lucky day, they have scholarships to help people in need. Should have realized then, like my mother always said (nothing is free)!! So they got he insurance info and called back and said its a go. Can you get him on a plane now? Everything fully paid. I spent that day and they next day running around town buying clothes for the cold weather in Michigan and filling the supply list. I had no time to research anything. That's what they want you to do, stay busy and don't read. There is so much bad stuff on the Internet about them.

So my son flies away to Manistee, MI, to a place called "Best Drug Rehabilitation", so I thought. I started looking at the weather there just to see how cold it was compared to what he's used to and to my surprise, I found hell...

I couldn't believe what I as reading about these facility's. Scientology/ Narconon?? I read about deaths, brainwashing, extortion, drug trafficking, human trafficking, insurance fraud, and the list goes on. This is the biggest money making scam. It made me sick and scared because I sent my child here for help and he might die?

I decided right or wrong I just wanted him to come home and get help Elsewhere. I called the intake officer in Manistee and asked that all rehabilitation stop immediately and to give my son his cell phone back so I could talk to him. They refused to let me speak to him or have anyone call me back. Finally someone called me from BattleCreek MI, at Tranquility Detox. What? Who are he's people? Detox? More drugs? He is four hours away from the place I sent him. Still after getting very irate they said he was going through withdrawals so bad he couldn't get out of bed. He needed grubs to take the edge off. If I remove him I wold kill him. I was confused be less than twelve hours before this he was able to fly and even catch a connections flight and had never flown before. How could this be? This particular place assured me they aren't affiliated with the rehab centers I've read about that hey are just contracted by them. They promised me he wold never see anyone from the rehab. That they are behind looked doors and he would be safe. So I relaxed for a split second when I heard his voice say mom I'm okay.
Much more at http://www.ripoffreport.com/forever-recovery/cult/battle-creek-michigan-6bd90.htm
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on November 05, 2012, 22:34
And another Ripoff Report on the Michigan Narconons

best drug rehab bdr freekin cult NOT A REHAB! manistee, Michigan

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my husband is sitting in the rehab at this very moment i got a frantic call from him at about 6 this morning he was very scared and frantic there is somthing more going on there then they pursue you to belive!! they wont relase him wat the hell happened to civil rights he is a grown man and yet is not allowed to walk out of there on his own free will. he is telling me how aboustley disgusting it is being served cold chicken for breakfest and has only been allowed to shower one time in 3 weeks they lie about everything i want to get him out of there but i dont no how his mom is the one who paid the 25,000

http://www.ripoffreport.com/best-drug-rehab/adult-care-facilities/manistee-michigan-197ac.htm
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on November 05, 2012, 22:56
I'm glad this guy is ok. He certainly has a way with words.

Complaint Review: A forever Recovery
    Submitted: Monday, November 05, 2012
    Posted: Monday, November 05, 2012
    Reported By: Ripped off — West palm beach Florida USA

Quote
This place is terrible. I was willing to do anything to get clean.....

.....After 4 days of boring a** detox I was driven 3 hours to children of the corn land, Manistee, MI.

The building looks like a old horror movie asylum. The inside is worse. Nasty flies everywhere especially around the dinning area. Hot as Balls the A/C barley worked and the patients were telling me the A/C was broken for two months. I had a sleepless night laying in my own sweat. The next morning I went to group and was promptly handed a L. Ron
Hubbard workbook. Once I tried the first few exercises, "Do Birds Fly"?,"Do Fish Swim"? I Said WTF? Then I could see the group of patients that were three weeks a head of me and they were staring at a wall for two hours. Something about learning discipline. No 12-steps in sight and I  could see no tools that would help in my recovery.

more at http://www.ripoffreport.com/a-forever-recovery/mental-health/manistee-michigan-065e4.htm
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: CoolHand on November 05, 2012, 23:50
Per Wickstrom, who owns BDR, AFR, Tranquility Detox and the building that Narconon Freedom Center is in (though not "directly" associated with Narconon anymore) is nothing more than a scam artist.  He is the epitome of what the church of Scientology resembles these days (or always has?), in that you say and do whatever you have to in order to make as much money as possible and and hide behind the falsehood of your "good works".  He is personally making somewhere in the neighborhood of 100K per month, has given over half a million to Scientology for services and donations, and will continue to con people out of money until the day he goes to jail for fraud, just like David Miscavige.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on November 06, 2012, 17:57
He is personally making somewhere in the neighborhood of 100K per month, has given over half a million to Scientology for services and donations, and will continue to con people out of money until the day he goes to jail for fraud, just like David Miscavige.

I wish the state agencies would act!

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 30, 2012, 15:39

Lookie lookie... another Best Drug Rehab. This one in NV.  Found this on  facebook  LIKES of a BDR staff member from MI

Basic Info
Joined Facebook   02/17/2010
Location   Best Drug Rehabilitation's address is 101 Convention

Center Dr., Suite 700, Las Vegas, Nevada 89109
Hours   
Mon - Sun: 12:00 am - 12:00 am
Contact Info
Phone   (888) 202-5610
Website   http://www.BestDrugRehabilitation.com
http://BESTDRUGREHABILITATION.NET
http://BESTDRUGREHABILITATION.ORG
http://BESTDRUGREHABILITATION.INFO
http://BEST-DRUG-REHABILITATION.NET
http://BEST-DRUG-REHABILITATION.ORG
https://www.facebook.com/pages/BestDrugRehab/308884032581?sk=info
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on November 30, 2012, 16:23
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Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 30, 2012, 17:36
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 :-D^\^\
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: CoolHand on December 05, 2012, 15:21
I don't know how I missed this before, but the article is such a farce!  First of all, anyone who knows Per Wickstrom knows he can't write or talk normally without making people cringe, so he couldn't have even written this article to begin with
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/per-wickstrom/addiction-recovery_b_2132044.html  I'm sure he paid a PR company to write it and get it on Huffpo.  Also, he fails to mention that he had multiple relapses after he opened his Narconon, that he was forced out due to media attention, lawsuits and creditors and that he is a fraud.  He also claims to have written is own curriculum, but the ones who actually wrote it would beg to differ, I'm sure.  He of course also claims that BDR is nothing like Narconon, yet he has people do TRs, has ethics officers, and way more - still Scientology-based.

Thanks goes out to Mary and others for calling him out on it in the comments section.  He used his PR company to try and cover it up with positive comments.  When he says he is "helping" thousands of people, what he really means is he is taking their money and giving it to Scientology and lining his own pockets, meanwhile saying whatever he needs to in order to keep people coming in.  It's primarily an insurance scam at the moment, as he takes in mostly people with private insurance and bills their policies for as much as he can possibly get.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on December 10, 2012, 21:36
I split the part about Stephen Ballard, Jr. off to its own thread:

RIP Stephen Ballard, Jr. Dec 27th 1987 - Nov 28th 2012 (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12060.0.html)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on December 10, 2012, 21:37
That blog made me throw up in my mouth a little.  We can leave comments at least:)

He says Stonehawk is credited with getting 6000 people off drugs.  Thats like a thousand a year.  No way in hell they graduated 20 people per week while in operation let alone are all those people off drugs.  CH mentioned something about Arrowhead only doing 10000 in 20 years.  Boy Per is good.  What a loon.  He looks like a cartoon character that blew hot air into his thumb and puffed up his head. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on December 10, 2012, 21:42
I split the part about Stephen Ballard, Jr. off to its own thread:

RIP Stephen Ballard, Jr. Dec 27th 1987 - Nov 28th 2012 (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12060.0.html)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 30, 2012, 22:21
That blog made me throw up in my mouth a little.  We can leave comments at least:)

He says Stonehawk is credited with getting 6000 people off drugs.  Thats like a thousand a year.  No way in hell they graduated 20 people per week while in operation let alone are all those people off drugs.  CH mentioned something about Arrowhead only doing 10000 in 20 years.  Boy Per is good.  What a loon.  He looks like a cartoon character that blew hot air into his thumb and puffed up his head.

My comment ( in reply to Per's to me) is awaiting moderation:

Quote
You are so full of baloney....

Readers can get more information and read all the complaints people have about Per Wickstrom and his Narconon based programs by visiting Reaching For The Tipping Point Forum   reaching4 (dot) info
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on December 31, 2012, 08:39
I suspect it will take years for the "moderator" to look at it.  By that time we will have shut him down.  Or my good friend Karma will have a talk with him:)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 31, 2012, 08:56
I suspect it will take years for the "moderator" to look at it.  By that time we will have shut him down.  Or my good friend Karma will have a talk with him:)

 Per = ||||o||||

At least my comment was approved and posted :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/per-wickstrom/addiction-recovery_b_2132044.html
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: snippy on December 31, 2012, 16:44
Mary - You totally rock! You even busted McGregor!    \W:<(      C{{O}}
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 31, 2012, 17:43
Thanks, snippy!   :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on December 31, 2012, 19:46
I suspect it will take years for the "moderator" to look at it.  By that time we will have shut him down.  Or my good friend Karma will have a talk with him:)

 Per = ||||o||||

At least my comment was approved and posted :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/per-wickstrom/addiction-recovery_b_2132044.html

I read the article as well and had to add my two cents.  Four actually.  Hope the moderator lets them fly.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on December 31, 2012, 19:50
I read the article as well and had to add my two cents.  Four actually.  Hope the moderator lets them fly.

 3((:
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on December 31, 2012, 20:00
Per obvioulsy had some shills on there.  "You are being mean to my friend Per and you dont even know him."  "He's a great guy who cares and really helps people".  I did a VV (virtual vomit) all over their shilly comments. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 31, 2012, 20:13
 ;D

Hope it gets published.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on January 01, 2013, 08:24
;D

Hope it gets published.

All but one got published.  It was a reply to the stanford lecturer.  I cant believe kent mcgregor tried to hide that he is a scientologist and his wife works at arrowhead.  Per never put one person through a program.  I dont think he even knows how to do a standard assist.  He is a fully hatted liar though.  Attested, interned and gold sealed by narconon and scientology.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BMF on January 01, 2013, 08:34
Fuck you

This is my response to the Stanford Lecturer that didnt get posted
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: snippy on February 04, 2013, 15:34
Just a thought - maybe the "other" options are decoys, same kind of ploy they use on their referral sites. In the end, everyone is routed through the NN program. The other options may not even exist.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: enjoy_alienation on March 02, 2013, 19:26
So I googled BDR and this came up. It's a review of BDR, filled with misinformation as usual. If you press "reviews" at the top to see the list of rehab facilities this website has reviewed there are only two; AFR and BDR. Which are both owned by Per Wickstrom. He's definitely had his PR set up this site and write false reviews. I guess maybe he thinks this will counteract all of the complaints about BDR that are online.

http://www.drugrehabilitationreviews.com/reviews/best-drug-rehabilitation/
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 02, 2013, 19:54
Barf!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 02, 2013, 20:21
http://www.drugrehabilitationreviews.com/about/

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Because of this, people can take to sites such as Rip Off Report to lay claim that the center treated them poorly and unfairly.

 HaHaHa! Hey Per, truth hurts huh!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: enjoy_alienation on March 02, 2013, 20:43
http://www.drugrehabilitationreviews.com/about/

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It is our goal to showcase real reviews about centers and bypass the emotional and unfair reviews that plague the internet.

 O-\eh?
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 02, 2013, 20:45
So I googled BDR and this came up. It's a review of BDR, filled with misinformation as usual. If you press "reviews" at the top to see the list of rehab facilities this website has reviewed there are only two; AFR and BDR. Which are both owned by Per Wickstrom. He's definitely had his PR set up this site and write false reviews. I guess maybe he thinks this will counteract all of the complaints about BDR that are online.

http: //www. drug rehabilitation reviews .com /reviews/best-drug-rehabilitation/

lol!

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on March 02, 2013, 23:48
Quote
Because rehabilitation centers are in the business of helping people who have unfortunately gone down the right path...

No, Per, most people think it's fortunate, not unfortunate, when others have gone down the right path.    <--:D-->

Thanks for the laughs, enjoy_alienation.  Good to see you here again. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 03, 2013, 00:00
I created a separate thread to get our reviews of that BDR up the SEO chain:
"Best Drug Rehabilitation Center Review  is a review on a website called drugrehabilitationreviews . com which only reviews 2 facilities, both owned or run by former Narconon Stone Hawk owner, Per Wickstrom.

We can thank this forum member ( enjoy_alienation) for alerting us to this site with his recent post"
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12314.0.html#new
Title: Re: Best (Worst of the lot ) Drug Rehabilitation Facilities
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 27, 2013, 00:00

More baloney from marketing maestro Per Wickstrom about his Best ( Worst of the lot ) Drug Rehabilitation "facilities", lol ( Readers... read this and all other BDR threads! )

THE BEST DRUG REHAB FACILITIES WILL TAKE YOU ON A STEP BY STEP PROCESS TO FULL RECOVERY
http://www.salyp.com/2013/01/27/the-best-drug-rehab-facilities-will-take-you-on-a-step-by-step-process-to-full-recovery/

Tags: Best Drug Rehab, Best Drug Rehab Center, Best Drug Rehab Facilities, Best Drug Rehab Facility, Best Drug Rehab Michigan, Best Drug Rehab Services, Best Drug Rehabilitation, Best Drug Rehabilitation Center, Best Drug Rehabilitation Facilities, Best Drug Rehabilitation Facility, Best Drug Rehabilitation Michigan, Best Drug Rehabilitation Services
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on April 15, 2013, 20:07
I love that this thread is not even a year old and has been read over 8000 times.   I was told by a current staff member that the posters are the only ones reading this site and it wasnt that big a deal.  He he.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 15, 2013, 21:34
I love that this thread is not even a year old and has been read over 8000 times.   I was told by a current staff member that the posters are the only ones reading this site and it wasnt that big a deal.  He he.

 3((:
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on April 15, 2013, 21:36
 :-D^\^\
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation in South Bend, IN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 15, 2013, 23:14
Interesting news!  Miss Fortune is doing an ongoing story on the South Bend property and facility.

Here is a look at her first story, which I somehow missed, April 10th:

Tranquility Detox: Alive and Well In South Bend, IN
http://glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2013/04/tranquility-detox-alive-and-well-in.html

Here is some more info:

Per Wickstrom's South Bend, IN facility is:

3606 E JEFFERSON BLVD, SOUTH BEND, IN 46615  in ST Joseph County IN

Owned by Tranquility Detox Inc, a Non-Profit Foreign Corporation from MI registered in IN in Sept 2012. Tranquility Detox is registered in MI since 2011.

Per also filed the other day through an attorney an Indiana For Profit Foreign Corporation for BDR, with BDR being a 2011 NV corp ( which is in default in NV for not filing this year)

Not sure whether it will be called Tranquility Detox or Best Drug Rehabilitation or both but this PR piece from Dec 2012 and other information shows that this place says:

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Best Drug Rehabilitation's New Indiana Facility to Create Dozens of Quality Long-Term Jobs

Best Drug Rehabilitation’s new Mishawaka, Indiana-based treatment facility employ new maintenance staff, cooks, operations personnel, groundskeepers, dishwashers, security guards, nurses, counselors,....

(PRWEB) December 11, 2012

Best Drug Rehabilitation, a cutting-edge residential addiction treatment center that empowers clients to create their own unique, medically-approved treatment plan from beginning to end, is providing another kind of support that is -- in many ways -- no less profound than that which it provides clients and their loved ones: support for the economically embattled Mishawaka community and labor market.

That’s because, in mid-March 2013 when Best Drug Rehabilitation finishes $700,000 worth of renovations and throws opens the doors of its new treatment facility at Mishawaka’s old Jefferson Family Pavilion, it will be creating dozens of quality, long-term jobs and generating hundreds of thousands in local economic activity.

“Next March is just around the corner, and very shortly we’ll be ramping-up our plans to aggressively hire maintenance staff, cooks, operations personnel, groundskeepers, dishwashers, security guards, nurses, counselors, doctors, communication professionals, and the list goes on,” commented Best Drug Rehabilitation’s Project Manage Mark Hergert. “We need a full contingent of staff to ensure that we offer our clients and their families the very best care, service and treatment.” [..]

[..] For additional information or media inquiries, contact Amber Howe, Executive Director BDR, [..]  Michigan-based Best Drug Rehabilitation treatment center offers residential treatment programs, and believes..... [..] Read Best Drug rehabilitation reviews and learn more at bestdrugrehabilitation.com.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/Best-Drug-Rehabilitation/Reviews/prweb10218168.htm

Tranquility is hiring in MI:
http://tinyurl.com/crrzt3r

OK, the property:

Historical Office Sale Listing - JEFFERSON FAMILY PAVILION - (SOLD)
Office For Sale ( now off the market as of 1 year ago)
JEFFERSON FAMILY PAVILION
3606 E. Jefferson Blvd., South Bend, IN 46617
[..]

Located on south side of Jefferson Blvd., just west of the intersection of Jefferson and Logan. Site is readily accessed, visible, and is centrally located between South Bend and Mishawaka.
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/13873031/3606-E-Jefferson-Blvd-South-Bend-IN/

What I found out is that it's formerly owned by the Holy Cross Health Systems  - which sounds like info I received a while back that they were buying an old church run facility. It was purchased in April 2012 and they are already in arrears on over $50K in Property taxes!


St Joseph County IN Deed, Tax and property records for 3606 E JEFFERSON BLVD, SOUTH BEND, IN 46615

Tranquility Detox
71-09-08-428-009.000-026   18 VAC LOT SUNNYMEDE, SOUTH BEND
     
Tranquility Detox
71-09-08-429-001.000-026     3600 JEFFERSON, SOUTH BEND     
__________________________________ _____


Owner:     Tranquility Detox     State ID Parcel #:     71-09-08-428-009.000-026
Tax Year:     2012     Property Type:     RE       
Address:     163 North Ave
    Office Use Only:   
Legal Desc:     S 65' Of Lots 8 & 9 All Of Lots 1314 & 15 & Vac St Bet Lots 8 9 13 14&& S 1/2 Vac St N & Adj To Lot 15


Owner:     Tranquility Detox     State ID Parcel #:     71-09-08-429-001.000-026
Tax Year:     2012     Property Type:     RE       
Address:     163 North Ave
    Office Use Only:   
Legal Desc:     Tract Of Land 201' On E Jefferson Beg At The Inter Of E Right Of WayOf 36th St & The S Right Of Way Of J
               
      Spring     Fall
Taxes:     26,764.82     26,764.82
Delinquencies:     49,044.48     0.00
Penalties:     4,904.44     0.00
Assessments:     0.00     0.00
Adjustments:     0.00     0.00
Total Charges:     80,713.74     26,764.82
 
Grand Total Charges:     80,713.74
Previous Payments:     0.00
    Pay This Amount:   
Include Both Spring and Fall Taxes Total Due -->           Total:      80713.74
        [info]  Site Fee (2.95%):     2381.06
Grand Total:      83094.80

St Joseph's County Deed Info

Land Records Search Document Detail

Document
1211392 CORP WARRANTY 04-20-2012 11:51 AM
Parties
ST JOSEPH REGIONAL MED CTR SO BEND CAMPUS INC GRANTOR
TRANQUILITY DETOX GRANTEE
http://216.117.11.48/DirectSearch/default.aspx
http://tnid.us/lookup/2318874590/

Recorded Date    Document Name    Last Name    First Name    Party Type    Document Type
04/20/2012    1211392    TRANQUILITY DETOX         GRANTEE    CORP WARRANTY
-------
   
Back in Michigan.... Miss Fortune writes about Tranquility Detox and A Forever Recovery health inspection reports!

DIRTY DINING: SOMEONE (OR SOMETHING) IS IN THE KITCHEN AT PER WICKSTROM'S 'A FOREVER RECOVERY' -- The food is terrible, and the portions are sooo small
http://glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2013/04/dirty-dining-someone-or-something-is-in.html

PART DEUX: TRANQUILITY DETOX INSPECTION REPORTS

http://glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2013/04/part-deux-tranquility-detox-inspection.html
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Cigul on April 16, 2013, 13:19
In Indiana, applicants for licensing go through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction (DMHA), itself a division of the Family and Social Services Administration. I am currently digging around to see if I have any old contacts working for DMHA, and in the meantime the public can comment at DMHA.feedback@fssa.in.gov  As we like to say in these here parts, Per should have stayed out of my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on April 18, 2013, 21:22
In Indiana, applicants for licensing go through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction (DMHA), itself a division of the Family and Social Services Administration. I am currently digging around to see if I have any old contacts working for DMHA, and in the meantime the public can comment at DMHA.feedback@fssa.in.gov  As we like to say in these here parts, Per should have stayed out of my neck of the woods.

 :::-O-:::  Cigul!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 18, 2013, 21:40
In Indiana, applicants for licensing go through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction (DMHA), itself a division of the Family and Social Services Administration. I am currently digging around to see if I have any old contacts working for DMHA, and in the meantime the public can comment at DMHA.feedback@fssa.in.gov  As we like to say in these here parts, Per should have stayed out of my neck of the woods.

lol! Thanks!!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on April 28, 2013, 11:25
In Indiana, applicants for licensing go through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction (DMHA), itself a division of the Family and Social Services Administration. I am currently digging around to see if I have any old contacts working for DMHA, and in the meantime the public can comment at DMHA.feedback@fssa.in.gov  As we like to say in these here parts, Per should have stayed out of my neck of the woods.

According to an email I received April 12 from a State of Indiana Family & Social Services Department official, the department's staff has had some informal discussions with an attorney regarding what requirements must be met to obtain a license. As of April 12, neither BDR nor Tranquility Detox had actually filed an application.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on April 28, 2013, 12:25
Hi Miss Fortune.  Thanks for posting!!  If you could email that person back and kindly let them know that Per, Pam and many other staff received their counselor certifications fraudulently that would be great.  Hopefully that is a way to shut them down before they start.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on April 28, 2013, 13:51
In Indiana, applicants for licensing go through the Division of Mental Health and Addiction (DMHA), itself a division of the Family and Social Services Administration. I am currently digging around to see if I have any old contacts working for DMHA, and in the meantime the public can comment at DMHA.feedback@fssa.in.gov  As we like to say in these here parts, Per should have stayed out of my neck of the woods.

According to an email I received April 12 from a State of Indiana Family & Social Services Department official, the department's staff has had some informal discussions with an attorney regarding what requirements must be met to obtain a license. As of April 12, neither BDR nor Tranquility Detox had actually filed an application.

Well, hello, Miss Fortune!  Welcome to the Tipping Point.   :w:e:l:c:o:m:e:

With no license having been applied for, I wonder if this place is similar to the ghostly "Medical Detox Centre" discussed in this thread: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12332.0.html

That is, something that may either never materialize, or something that is currently operating completely under the radar. 

Its kind of like telling the people another NN is going to open in Indiana soon.

Oh, sheesh!  Is Eric psychic, or what?   (OoO)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on April 28, 2013, 19:05
Welcome, Miss Fortune. I love your blog. Keep up the good work.  ;)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on April 29, 2013, 09:48
Welcome, Miss Fortune. I love your blog. Keep up the good work.  ;)

Thank you! Happy to be here, and look forward to telling many more important, and often untold, stories.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on April 29, 2013, 09:51
Hi Miss Fortune.  Thanks for posting!!  If you could email that person back and kindly let them know that Per, Pam and many other staff received their counselor certifications fraudulently that would be great.  Hopefully that is a way to shut them down before they start.

Eric, I sent you an email for more info on this. Can't quite get the hang of posting yet!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: moonpie54 on May 11, 2013, 10:51
I need to get my son away from there Tranquility in BC. I can't talk to him. They refuse. They required me to forward all my mail to them so they would guarantee they recived insurance payments. They are now going to transfer him to BDR.
I am afraid to even go there and get him.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 11, 2013, 11:26
I need to get my son away from there Tranquility in BC. I can't talk to him. They refuse. They required me to forward all my mail to them so they would guarantee they recived insurance payments. They are now going to transfer him to BDR.
I am afraid to even go there and get him.

Hi moonpie54,

thanks for asking for help. Try not to become upset over this.

It is standard that the student not have access to calls during withdrawal. They usually lie or omit this information on the phone, just to get the student paid up and in the program but it is standard for these Narconon programs to keep the person in seclusion.

Why would they require you to forward mail when they should already know if they received payment from insurance? They filed the claim, right? Do not send original snail mail to anyone. Did you personally get confirmation from your insurance company that they are paying for the service?

I hope you didn't pay money upfront, being told you will get reimbursed. I also hope you didn't sign a power of attorney allowing them  to receive any checks that the insurance is supposed to send directly to you.

Don't rush to get your son out unless you feel he is in danger. If the insurance company is paying in full,  and you are concerned about your son, and you did not sign a contract stating you would be responsible for the fee, then go get him. But don't expect a refund of any money you paid out.

I don't want you to give too many particulars on th forum in case they are reading here today. If you need further assistance, please email me at xscientologist at gmail.com

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on May 11, 2013, 12:26
I need to get my son away from there Tranquility in BC. I can't talk to him. They refuse. They required me to forward all my mail to them so they would guarantee they recived insurance payments. They are now going to transfer him to BDR.
I am afraid to even go there and get him.

Hi moonpie and welcome to the Tipping Point.  Mary will give you good advice in email, and I will also add to not hesitate to get the police involved if you go to get him, but don't let them know in advance that you're coming.

Why would they require you to forward mail when they should already know if they received payment from insurance? They filed the claim, right? Do not send original snail mail to anyone. Did you personally get confirmation from your insurance company that they are paying for the service?

I hope you didn't pay money upfront, being told you will get reimbursed. I also hope you didn't sign a power of attorney allowing them  to receive any checks that the insurance is supposed to send directly to you.


I've been told by some people that Narconon is requiring that they change their mailing address with their insurance company to Narconon's address.  I believe the reason for this is because when the insurance companies pay out a claim, they normally send the insured person a letter telling them how much they've paid, and what part of the claim is up to the insured to pay.  These are usually labeled "This is not a bill", at least in my experience.

This is a sneaky way of keeping people from finding out about that anything was paid by insurance, and as we've seen in the Georgia insurance fraud reports, they will make claims for more than what they charge, and in some instances, charge for services that were never even rendered.  They do this even if the person has paid, as was shown in Mary Morton's case.  There's no reason to think other Narconons aren't doing the same type of things.

moonpie54, if you did change your address with your insurance company to Narconon's address, you should change it back to your own as soon as you can.  And I also hope you didn't sign a release of payment or a power of attorney, but if you did, revoke it immediately.  Not that Narconon really needs a power of attorney to fraudulently sign someone else's check, because they don't seem to worry about committing criminal acts, but because if anything comes of this in the future, it will be good for you to be able to prove that you didn't agree to any part of this.

Please let us know the outcome of this, once things are settled down and your son is safe.   :)

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab
Post by: moonpie54 on May 11, 2013, 14:11
I did not sign the Power of Attorney but they had that document  in the packet.
I am hoping my son did not. I have also switched my mail back as I
found they were never returning calls or responding. When in desperation to get help we do things in a hurry up we can get him in here tonight.
I have been extremely distressed with how this has been progressing.
I told them I did not want him transferred until I spoke
To him but still no call.


Title: Re: Best Drug Rehab
Post by: ethercat on May 11, 2013, 15:22
moonpie54, I moved your reply back into the same topic you originally posted in so hopefully you can find any other replies more easily. 

When you're logged in, you can get to any replies using the link that says "Show new replies to your posts" at the top of the page, or by using this link: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?action=unreadreplies

You can also go to your profile: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?action=profile
and click the link on the left that says "Show posts" to get to your posts. 

I hope this will help you navigate the forum better.  :)  I've written more below, too.

I did not sign the Power of Attorney but they had that document  in the packet.
I am hoping my son did not. I have also switched my mail back as I
found they were never returning calls or responding. When in desperation to get help we do things in a hurry up we can get him in here tonight.
I have been extremely distressed with how this has been progressing.
I told them I did not want him transferred until I spoke
To him but still no call.

Legally speaking, if it ever came down to it, your son doesn't have the authority to sign over your power of attorney, only his own, but I hope he didn't do that either.  But if the insurance is in your name, he won't be able to sign it and have it hold up legally.

I know how it goes with the feeling of desperation, and Narconon and the "Narconon clones" play on that desperation you and other parents and families feel, and they do push people to act quickly, more quickly than is really good for them.  I do understand your feelings, though.  In fact, the desperation is theirs - they are desperate to get people signed up, committed, and paid up before they do a search on the internet and change their mind as a result.   ;)

Have you emailed and heard back from Mary McConnell yet?  She is very knowledgeable and trustworthy.  I am reluctant to give you more specific advice when she might already be working with you.



edit: completed a sentence I accidentally left incomplete.   :P
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 11, 2013, 16:18
Moonpie, please contact me by email so I can provide you with more info and a contact that will assist you on this.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: moonpie54 on May 11, 2013, 16:47
Mary I am unsure how to email you. I'm trying to navigate on the forum still.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 11, 2013, 16:57
Mary I am unsure how to email you. I'm trying to navigate on the forum still.

Just go to your own email site and send me an email at xscientologist@gmail.com

Then I will email you back with the info
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on May 12, 2013, 18:09
I'm sure you are in good hands with Mary, moonpie54.

First, I think many of us here understand that circumstances are frequently dire when someone enters treatment; decisions are often made quickly. Everyone involved is usually at the end of their ropes.

Second, I want to reiterate ethercat's advice about involving the police, if you want to pick up your son, have the police meet you there. I believe the insurance statement ethercat was referring to is an explanation of benefits. (http://healthinsurance.about.com/od/healthinsurancebasics/a/understanding_EOB.htm) You would normally receive this directly from your insurance company. Apparently, Narconon would prefer that you not see that item. I'm glad you switched your mail back.

Wishing you the very best and hope to hear some updates, when it's safe to do so.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Melanie on May 22, 2013, 21:02
Hello,
Does anyone check this forum these days? I was admitted to Tranquility Detox and Best Drug Rehab in xx/xxxx and can completely relate to what others have been saying about the facilities. I owe BDR some money out of pocket and I believe the insurance I had at the time still owes them money as well. I have filed the bills until I figure out what my course of action should be, especially if they were not licensed during the time I was there.

How do I email people who use this forum so I can communicate through email rather than having to check the forum all the time? I will write more in detail once I know my message is getting to someone directly rather than on a forum I found on accident that seems to be old. I also don't navigate through these websites easily. :-)

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from someone.

-Melanie
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 22, 2013, 21:11
Hi Melanie, many people read the forum daily :)

Thanks for joining and posting about your situation.

There are multiple threads about other people's experiences with Best Drug Rehabilitation Center in MI. BDR and Tranquility Detox are licensed. Tranquility is  not the name on their license. Both BDR and A Forever Recovery run Tranquility. It's where they send their students for withdrawal, and then send them on to whatever facility recruited them.

If you want, you can email me at xscientologist at gmail.com and I can provide you with some information on how to sort out your situation. It is important that you find out what was billed and what was covered by your insurance. I'll tell you how to find out all this and what to do.

Mary
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on May 22, 2013, 21:23
Mary is right, Melanie. This forum is read daily.

You can Go to show unread posts since last visit (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?action=unread) or latest comments (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/board,52.0.html) to see the most recent posts.

Welcome to Tipping Point!
 :w:e:l:c:o:m:e:
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Melanie on May 22, 2013, 21:28
Thank you for the replies!  :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 22, 2013, 22:01
You're welcome, Melanie!

Thanks, mefree :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2013, 08:57
Hello,
Does anyone check this forum these days? I was admitted to Tranquility Detox and Best Drug Rehab in xx/xxxx and can completely relate to what others have been saying about the facilities. I owe BDR some money out of pocket and I believe the insurance I had at the time still owes them money as well. I have filed the bills until I figure out what my course of action should be, especially if they were not licensed during the time I was there.

How do I email people who use this forum so I can communicate through email rather than having to check the forum all the time? I will write more in detail once I know my message is getting to someone directly rather than on a forum I found on accident that seems to be old. I also don't navigate through these websites easily. :-)

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from someone.

-Melanie

Hi Melanie, and welcome to the Tipping Point.  We are an active forum; we just don't have a whole lot of members who post regularly.  I guess you're probably in touch with Mary by now, but if you need any help with how the forum works, let us know.   :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 29, 2013, 19:26
Yes, Melanie is in contact with me. Thanks so much.

Mary
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: katydid5 on August 31, 2013, 20:24
 I had a loved one in a similar facilty close by -denied they were scientolgy related. Asked us to sign forms no other rehab (found this out afterward) ever required. No one in my family believed me- I kept looking on the internet. Proof came when I did get names of some of the employees- I went and looked on facebook and some of the facebook pages of the employees were friends with Narconon facilities all over the world. i also noticed staff were very young- only a few had any college degrees. Withdrawl specialists were high school graduates. Impulsivley I told my loved one all my fears- initally they would not leave but later did. The staff there were nice, but it seemed like they were all so young and I had heard they employ recent graduates of the program into the facilty. Yhey had also tld my loved one he could live in California for free (he thoguht working somewhere to pay the rent). I had been talking to an attorney at the time and mentioned this to staff and we did end up getting more than half our money back. At the time the CEO was in court giving depositions on some matter concerning this  business    so maybe mentioning an attorney helped us. I do feel staff liked my loved one and probably thought they were helping. But the whole business side I do not think care- people are not properly trained-  detox was in a building with no business sign out front looked very run down. They would not talk to my insurance company to negotiate coverage which i have never have happened. i work at a place where we often advocate for folks getitng insurance coverage for previously denied claims- providers of service were always glad to talk to the insurance company= this place would not- My feeling is they take young people who have just graudated from their program and stick them in positions they are probably not ready to perform in and then the patient gets put at risk. Don't sign anything- but if you have talk to an attorney- get your loved one out if you have any doubts. Check employees facebook pages- it is amazing to me that they deny Narconon affiliation but severaly employess are friends of Narconon.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on August 31, 2013, 21:56
I had a loved one in a similar facilty close by -denied they were scientolgy related. Asked us to sign forms no other rehab (found this out afterward) ever required. No one in my family believed me- I kept looking on the internet. Proof came when I did get names of some of the employees- I went and looked on facebook and some of the facebook pages of the employees were friends with Narconon facilities all over the world. i also noticed staff were very young- only a few had any college degrees. Withdrawl specialists were high school graduates. Impulsivley I told my loved one all my fears- initally they would not leave but later did. The staff there were nice, but it seemed like they were all so young and I had heard they employ recent graduates of the program into the facilty. Yhey had also tld my loved one he could live in California for free (he thoguht working somewhere to pay the rent). I had been talking to an attorney at the time and mentioned this to staff and we did end up getting more than half our money back. At the time the CEO was in court giving depositions on some matter concerning this  business    so maybe mentioning an attorney helped us. I do feel staff liked my loved one and probably thought they were helping. But the whole business side I do not think care- people are not properly trained-  detox was in a building with no business sign out front looked very run down. They would not talk to my insurance company to negotiate coverage which i have never have happened. i work at a place where we often advocate for folks getitng insurance coverage for previously denied claims- providers of service were always glad to talk to the insurance company= this place would not- My feeling is they take young people who have just graudated from their program and stick them in positions they are probably not ready to perform in and then the patient gets put at risk. Don't sign anything- but if you have talk to an attorney- get your loved one out if you have any doubts. Check employees facebook pages- it is amazing to me that they deny Narconon affiliation but severaly employess are friends of Narconon.

Check your claims. There have been allegations in Georgia that Narconon informed clients that insurance did not pay when it did.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/narconon-warrants-show-millions-alleged-fraud/nXmbW/
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on September 01, 2013, 10:23
Hi katydid5 and welcome to Tipping Point.  It does sound like this might have been the A Forever Recovery/Best Drug Rehab/Tranquility Detox triangle - the Devil's Triangle of the north.  Glad you got your loved one out.

I have no doubt that some of the young staff do care, but without the life experience and training or even just the experience of a real rehab, they don't know how things are done at legit places.  Unfortunately, they are sometimes trapped into thinking it's their responsibility to "give back", when they should be focused on developing their own life and concentrating on their own recovery.

Yeah, Facebook, what a mixed bag for them.  On the one hand, it helps them to network, but on the other hand, it gives them away for what and who they are.    ;)

And do what mefree says; do check your insurance claims.  In my opinion, the insurance funny business she's referring to isn't been limited to just Georgia.  There have been instances of people being told to change their mailing address with their insurance companies to the facility's address. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: katydid5 on September 02, 2013, 18:44
Ethercat- You summed it up nicely- I agree with you on the young staff- they may end up feeling obligated and really don't get training so it ends up being very dangerous four the patients . The fact that they are so young does result in things like posting things on a public forum which shows a direct connection to Narconon.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on September 02, 2013, 19:56
Considering that many of the staff at BDR have posts and jobs that are almost identical to that found in a Narconon or church of scientology, you will usually find many BDR or even Afr staff who once worked at another Narconon. 

What's difficult sometimes is that since many times these staff members relapse on drugs they are usually cycled over to another center.  I'm not comparing addiction to abuse but the analogy of the Catholic Church when they took unethical priests and simply moved them around would be close.  However this usually has to do with skill sets within scientology.

Although they believe in conditions, they believe that these conditions can be repaired rather quickly.

Ironically a fully trained CS who just relapsed could probably get a job at any narconon, BDR or similar program even if they only had a couple days sober.  Even though the most heavily trained position can be had for about 7 months of training withIn a Narconon, these staff are very rare because most people who are trainees don't stay sober that long.

They might get a position or two, burn out because of workload, lack of recovery program, and lack of social life....then they relapse.  They are handled a couple times at the center.  Eventually they move on to another Narconon.

It's not uncommon for many staff members to have been at several narconons.  These connections are probably because of this.

You can find out a Narconon staff members real résumé and lengths of sobriety in between by a simple formulaic approach.

Count how many friends someone has and break them down into the various narconons those people work at.  The highest number of friends equals the greatest amount of sobriety that person had and the Narconon  they were at before they moved on.  The second most is the shortest time at a Narconon.

You can also roughly determine the department they worked in.

Or the Narconon they graduated from.

Or the Narconon the did a relapse program at.

Rarely will you ever find that someone left a Narconon and went to another for a reason other than relapse or sleeping with students.  This is because, in scientology, to leave an org means you have secret harms you have done.  Even if you wanted to leave in a good condition you would be interrogated about your secrets...and it takes months or years to let them let you go.  In addition, programs like arrowhead charge you tens of thousands of dollars for training that you have to pay in order to work somewhere else.

Can you imagine a job where you were forced to disclose all you personal secrets to them before they let you quit? Happens all the time in the scientology and Narconon world.  And maybe Nazi germany.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 18, 2013, 19:54
Here are some fair use clips from recent Best Drug Rehabilitation complaints posted to RipoffReport.com

Insurance fraud....
Report: #1078786
best drug rehab nitemare detox manistee battlecreek Michigan
    Submitted: Sat, August 24, 2013
    Updated: Sat, August 24, 2013
    Reported By: Making Bowsbybrat — okc Oklahoma
Quote
  sent my daughter ( from Oklahoma) to Best Drug Rehab & Detox, the detox is located in Battlecreek, Mich. This was our familys first time dealing with a drug rehab of any sort, This place is Real Fast to book a flight for your loved one and they can do this and pay for it because its the LAST ticket they have, one of the administrators Brandon) had her take pills before boarding the flight to calm her down because this was her first time on a plane( pay attion I mention why he wanted her to take the pills later)  my daughter had her cell and 40.00 cash ( pay attention this comes up later too) on her until arriving at the detox, First the diver ( whom was dressed like a straight thug) was 1 1/2 hrs late picking her up at the airport, they fly into detroit ( altho there is an international airport right there in battlecreek), the driver drove 90-100 on the hwy with MY daughter in the car, he stopped at a truck stop to make a drug deal, drugs where then offered to my daughter, on the way to detox, she called once there and said to me over the phone in front of staff, "the reason he wanted me to take the pills was so I would test positive for drugs so they can file the insurance clam with our insurance company", It only went down hill from there,...

read on for more
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/best-drug-rehab/manisteebattlecreek-Michigan/best-drug-rehab-nitemare-detox-manistee-battlecreek-Michigan-1078786

Similar report posted same day here:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-Drug-Rehab/Battlecreeek-Michigan/Best-Drug-Rehab-Worst-nighttmare-drug-rehab-employees-offer-you-drugs-Battlecreeek-Michi-1078776




    Report: #1074011
Complaint Review: Best Drug Rehab in Manistee, Michigan
    Submitted: Wed, August 07, 2013
    Updated: Wed, August 07, 2013
    Reported By: Ritamae — Upstate New York

Quote
My 20 year old daughter was "rescued" by local police officials in Michigan TODAY from Best Drug Rehab/ Tranquility Detox Center. The whole day was a nightmare. they are committing insurance fraud, they will not let you speak to your loved while they are in detox.
Read on for more
Best Drug Rehab in Manistee, Michigan Tranquility Detox Center in Battlecreek,MI Desperate mom of heroin adddict Battlecreek Michigan
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-Drug-Rehab-in-Manistee-Michigan/Battlecreek-Michigan/Best-Drug-Rehab-in-Manistee-Michigan-Tranquility-Detox-Center-in-BattlecreekMI-Despera-1074011
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on September 18, 2013, 21:37
Interesting because most laypeople don't realize that med detox won't be billed without a positive drug test and in some cases inpatient won't be covered by insurance without one.

In other words, if you have insurance but are 1 week sober, generally insurance won't pay for inpatient and definitely not detox.

Basically I'm suggesting this woman is being honest because there is truth in what she is saying.  However for a rehab to give someone drugs for insurance billing and admittance reasons is horrifying.

For someone to make this story up, they would have to understand the treatment industry.


Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 18, 2013, 21:55
Interesting because most laypeople don't realize that med detox won't be billed without a positive drug test and in some cases inpatient won't be covered by insurance without one.

In other words, if you have insurance but are 1 week sober, generally insurance won't pay for inpatient and definitely not detox.

Basically I'm suggesting this woman is being honest because there is truth in what she is saying.  However for a rehab to give someone drugs for insurance billing and admittance reasons is horrifying.

For someone to make this story up, they would have to understand the treatment industry.

You make a very good point! I tend to believe her, based on the multitude of insurance fraud allegations. Truly evil!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on September 20, 2013, 02:21
I believe I have a copy of a report written on Per that went to Narconon Int and various other upper management Scientology organizations that went over Per promoting that people needed to be given alcohol of the insurance wont pay.  Obviously Narconon Int didnt care (except about $$$$$$$).  It was written in 2009 or so.  I think its only a matter of time before someone in the Wickstrom empire gets nabbed by the police.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 20, 2013, 07:24
I believe I have a copy of a report written on Per that went to Narconon Int and various other upper management Scientology organizations that went over Per promoting that people needed to be given alcohol of the insurance wont pay.  Obviously Narconon Int didnt care (except about $$$$$$$).  It was written in 2009 or so.  I think its only a matter of time before someone in the Wickstrom empire gets nabbed by the police.

Wow!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 20, 2013, 09:18
I think its only a matter of time before someone in the Wickstrom empire gets nabbed by the police.

It's about time.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on September 20, 2013, 09:21
He'll blame his sister or dad.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 20, 2013, 15:43
He'll blame his sister or dad.

I know, lol!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on January 22, 2014, 20:06
This thread has been viewed 48,247 times.  (=.=)OOO
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on January 22, 2014, 21:51
This forum is on position 4 where I'm at when you search for Best Drug Rehabilitation.

https://www.google.com/#q=best+drug+rehabilitation

48,331 times now.  Almost 100 views in the last couple of hours.

Wow.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on January 22, 2014, 22:14
Someone is paranoid.  Wonder why?
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on January 22, 2014, 22:54
It must be really a strange place for Narconon, scientology and best drug rehab employees or staff to be in.

If they click on these forums they can try and handle or debug any black PR that families ask about.

But if they click on these forums, google gives this forum greater rank.

Which in turn leads to more exposure.

Which has more families reading about the unethical things that happen in these rehabs.

Some of them end up writing their stories here...

Which creates more clicks...

Which creates more rank...

To click or not to click?
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on January 23, 2014, 10:19
No doubt they have people visiting this site daily.  Per is looking to sue.  That's covered in another thread though ;D
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on January 23, 2014, 13:11
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-17/news/sns-rt-us-usa-blogger-ruling-20140117_1_crystal-cox-9th-circuit-tax-fraud

I can't imagine that any public relations company would suggest to a treatment center to sue clients who speak/write negative things about their experiences.  The press nightmare that would occur when families read that if they go to treatment center A and have negative experiences and talk about them they will be sued would be a hornet's nest I wouldn't want to kick.

It will be like the Amy's Baking Company on Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares version of the drug rehab world.



Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 23, 2014, 15:10
This is a good case! I read about it  on CourtHousenew.com the other day and sent the link and federal appeal decision pdf along to some people I know who blog about Narconon and Scientology. :

Quote
Just in case any of those exposed in your blog tries to shut you up:

Courthouse News Service
Friday, January 17, 2014Last Update: 2:46 PM PT
   
Blogger's Speech Rights Championed in the 9th
By TIM HULL
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/17/64649.htm

Federal Appeals decision
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/17/blog.pdf
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on January 23, 2014, 18:37
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-17/news/sns-rt-us-usa-blogger-ruling-20140117_1_crystal-cox-9th-circuit-tax-fraud

I can't imagine that any public relations company would suggest to a treatment center to sue clients who speak/write negative things about their experiences.  The press nightmare that would occur when families read that if they go to treatment center A and have negative experiences and talk about them they will be sued would be a hornet's nest I wouldn't want to kick.

It will be like the Amy's Baking Company on Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares version of the drug rehab world.

You were reading my mind about what a PR disaster this would probably be for the suing treatment center. In addition to that, they would potentially be adding to the growing mountain of damaging court documents.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on January 23, 2014, 18:58
I think its covered in ms fortunes blog and here times he has sued people for speaking out.  I know he has threatened it for sure.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on January 23, 2014, 19:03
I think its covered in ms fortunes blog and here times he has sued people for speaking out.  I know he has threatened it for sure.

Yes. I'm aware, but it still seems like a bad strategy.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 23, 2014, 19:38
I think its covered in ms fortunes blog and here times he has sued people for speaking out.  I know he has threatened it for sure.

Narconon Reviews has copies of 5 lawsuits filed by Best Drug Rehabilitation for this:
http://narcononreviews.net/?s=Best+Drug+Rehabilitation
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on January 24, 2014, 03:50
This is a good case! I read about it  on CourtHousenew.com the other day and sent the link and federal appeal decision pdf along to some people I know who blog about Narconon and Scientology. :

Quote
Just in case any of those exposed in your blog tries to shut you up:

Courthouse News Service
Friday, January 17, 2014Last Update: 2:46 PM PT
   
Blogger's Speech Rights Championed in the 9th
By TIM HULL
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/17/64649.htm

Federal Appeals decision
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/17/blog.pdf

I particularly like this part:
Quote from: Courthouse News
"Cox's consistent use of extreme language negates the impression that the blog posts assert objective facts," Hurwitz wrote. "Cox regularly employed hyperbolic language in the posts, including terms such as 'immoral,' 'really bad,' 'thugs,' and 'evil doers.' Cox's assertions that 'Padrick hired a 'hit man' to kill her' or 'that the entire bankruptcy court system is corrupt' similarly dispel any reasonable expectation that the statements assert facts."

Let's all remember to use as much hyperbolic language as we can.   :D

And one comment on this:
Quote from: Courthouse News
"In defamation cases, the public-figure status of a plaintiff and the public importance of the statement at issue - not the identity of the speaker - provide the First Amendment touchstones," Hurwitz wrote.

Per has made himself into a public figure by doing all those interviews and such with other public figures.  And no doubt there is public importance to this site - if there weren't, people wouldn't be reading it.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on January 24, 2014, 04:07
You were reading my mind about what a PR disaster this would probably be for the suing treatment center. In addition to that, they would potentially be adding to the growing mountain of damaging court documents.

A PR disaster is exactly what Per is currently facing.  And every step he takes to stop it just escalates it.  That's "the tech" in action for you.  Kind of reminds me of scientology against usenet in the 1990s, and scientology against anonymous in 2008.  Per against critics in 2013/2014.

HyPERbolically speaking, really bad, immoral, evil doing thugs like Per deserve everything that's coming to them.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Suppressive Person on January 24, 2014, 11:48
Well, while they are  in the clicking mood and doing either damage control or research, they can check these sites out also.  Hmm - wonder why people take to the internet to post such things?  Either Per has many enemies ... or maybe ...it's all true. I subscribe to the latter theory.

http://bestdrugrehabilitationscam.wordpress.com/


http://greatlakestreatmentcenters.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on January 24, 2014, 16:34
Is it just me, or does anyone else thing "Crystal Cox" would make an amazing name for an adult film star?

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-17/news/sns-rt-us-usa-blogger-ruling-20140117_1_crystal-cox-9th-circuit-tax-fraud

I can't imagine that any public relations company would suggest to a treatment center to sue clients who speak/write negative things about their experiences.  The press nightmare that would occur when families read that if they go to treatment center A and have negative experiences and talk about them they will be sued would be a hornet's nest I wouldn't want to kick.

It will be like the Amy's Baking Company on Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares version of the drug rehab world.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on January 24, 2014, 17:01
Indeed ;D
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: source on January 26, 2014, 19:28
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/a-forever-recovery-and-narconon-freedom-center-sued-in-mi.104881/page-4

Here's another parent currently dealing with a son in Best Drug Rehab.  Posted on WWP.  Anyone there should reach out to support.

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My son just went to bed in manistee almost 2weeks ago for a serious heroin and other drug use addiction. He went to a medical detox center , we were told, I believed to be in battle creek and was transferred to manistee Thursday. He seemed fine when I spoke to him that day for the first time. He said the dr had confirmed his epilepsy (we have known since he was 5 and was on treatment until in his early teens he refused to believe he had it and would not comply with treatment). His seizures are most frequently silent, happen during sleep and he wakes during the night with severe migraine. He has had some that were grandmal, but this is the first time he told me what the doctor said and seemed to accept it. He said they needed medical history for him and he would be seeing a neurologist. That phone call he was on a speaker phone and just sounded very confused almost. When I asked how it was and if he liked the new place, he said he just felt overwhelmed, there were a lot of people. Last night, he called and said I needed to get online and check out the center. He said it is all a scam and scientology exercises. He said he refused to do what they told him because it was ridiculous. He wants to leave because he said it is not a real drug rehabilitation program, it is just teaching scientology. I am not sure what to think or do. I questioned him, as my first thoughts were that he was having a normal early reaction to the situation and wanted to leave. Now I don't know what to think. He has been using one form of drug or another since teens, this is the first time he has ever admitted he has an addiction or agreed to get treatment. I borrowed the money to send him, and of course, by the time the family realized the situation, he had lost his job, his apt, girlfriend, all savings, his car, everything down to furniture, video games, his guitar, and even tried to sell his dog. How can I keep from the insurance company from paying this place all of the money in coverage he would have for treatment? Not to mention, I doubt he will trust another place to go. I also expect he still wants the drugs, and if he is not getting the appropriate treatment and support, he will leave there and continue. We are in Xxxxx.
He told me, it was treatment or death with a needle in his arm, he hated what he had become, a "a junkie". Can anyone help?

Quote of the day would be "he wants to leave because it is not a real drug rehabilitation program, it is just teaching Scientology."
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 26, 2014, 22:01
Quote

   
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xxxxx xxxxxx said: ↑

        My son just went to bed in manistee almost 2weeks ago for a serious heroin and other drug use addiction. He went to a medical detox center , we were told, I believed to be in battle creek and was transferred to manistee Thursday. He seemed fine when I spoke to him that day for the first time. He said the dr had confirmed his epilepsy (we have known since he was 5 and was on treatment until in his early teens he refused to believe he had it and would not comply with treatment). His seizures are most frequently silent, happen during sleep and he wakes during the night with severe migraine. He has had some that were grandmal, but this is the first time he told me what the doctor said and seemed to accept it. He said they needed medical history for him and he would be seeing a neurologist. That phone call he was on a speaker phone and just sounded very confused almost. When I asked how it was and if he liked the new place, he said he just felt overwhelmed, there were a lot of people. Last night, he called and said I needed to get online and check out the center. He said it is all a scam and scientology exercises. He said he refused to do what they told him because it was ridiculous. He wants to leave because he said it is not a real drug rehabilitation program, it is just teaching scientology. I am not sure what to think or do. I questioned him, as my first thoughts were that he was having a normal early reaction to the situation and wanted to leave. Now I don't know what to think. He has been using one form of drug or another since teens, this is the first time he has ever admitted he has an addiction or agreed to get treatment. I borrowed the money to send him, and of course, by the time the family realized the situation, he had lost his job, his apt, girlfriend, all savings, his car, everything down to furniture, video games, his guitar, and even tried to sell his dog. How can I keep from the insurance company from paying this place all of the money in coverage he would have for treatment? Not to mention, I doubt he will trust another place to go. I also expect he still wants the drugs, and if he is not getting the appropriate treatment and support, he will leave there and continue. We are in xxxxxx
        He told me, it was treatment or death with a needle in his arm, he hated what he had become, a "a junkie". Can anyone help?

    My name is Mary and I volunteer with Narconon Reviews. from http://narcononreviews.net - an independent site created to educate people and professionals about these programs. and
    I am also a lon time member of http://www.reachingforthetippingpoint.net forum, where many like yourself come for assistance.

    Contact me on the forum ( registering and using an anonymous nic name ) or via Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rehab.researcher .

    We assist people with problems with Narconon and related problems and complaints.

    Your son needs to get medical a evaluation ASAP. However, you must not take him out of there until you have a better picture of what you are up against and a plan in place. Most importantly you need to find another program for him to go to immediately upon leaving if you take him out. You will have a hard time getting a refund so even if he has to go to the local clinic and attend NA/AA meetings for the time being, it's better than where he is. We can discuss all this via PM on Facebook or the forum.

    I wish a moderator would change your name and delete your personal details but I don't think that is possible since you aren't a registered member. I deleted them in my copy here and hope to hear from you. I have helped hundreds of loved ones like yourself in this kind of situation with the programs and I believe I can help advise you because of that.

    ~ Mary


I deleted the state mentioned in her post as well.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Suppressive Person on January 27, 2014, 15:32
Source, Mary et al

Is this post recent?  What can I (we) do to help? 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 27, 2014, 17:01
Source, Mary et al

Is this post recent?  What can I (we) do to help?

Apparently is it. See the link. I also PM'd you.
Title: New: EFF Takes on Blogger case
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 29, 2014, 19:29
New: EFF takes on a blogger case, different from the other one mentioned in this thread :)

Bloggers Have Rights Too, EFF Says
By JONNY BONNER
 
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     SAN FRANCISCO (CN) - So-called "politically motivated" copyright claims over the use of a California attorney's 5-year-old head shot are bogus, a digital rights group claims in an amicus brief.
     The Electronic Frontiers Foundation asked the Federal Court to dismiss a lawsuit filed by California Republican Party Vice Chairman Harmeet Dhillon, who sued an anonymous blogger and others over use of Dhillon's campaign photo in a post on The Munger Games.
     The website - which criticizes Charles Munger Jr., Santa Clara County Republican Party of Silicon Valley chairman - was launched in 2013, and has been called "bigoted" by at least one conservative critic.
     Anonymous bloggers who run the site call Munger Jr. a "super-wealthy, bow-tied, liberal," and Dhillon "an ACLU-affiliated attorney who doubles as the vice chair of the California Republican Party."
     The photo in question was from a failed Assembly race in 2008.
     Dhillon asked for $250 in damages for copyright infringement, and subpoenaed Dreamhost in search of the unidentified blogger and nine Doe defendants.
     A post on "The Munger Games" called Dhillon's claim "silly." The headshot, as originally posted, did not appear on the site, checked Tuesday.
     San Francisco-based Electronic Frontiers Foundation said in a statement: "Use of the photo is clearly allowed under the 'fair use doctrine,' which ensures that copyrighted works can be used by others for purposes including criticism and commentary."
  Read on for more
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/29/64926.htm

Copy of the court filing
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/29/EFFAmicus.pdf
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on April 05, 2014, 11:17
This thread remains very popular, now at 114,219 views.

 --O\|/O--
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on April 19, 2014, 13:23
And now just a couple of weeks later:  "Read 134946 times". 

Holy cow, this thread has exceeded St. Hill size (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology#Headquarters.2C_Bases.2C_and_Central_Orgs)!  It's on its way to becoming an Ideal Thread.  :D

Meanwhile, BDR appears to be having a massive Hill 10 (http://www.xenu-directory.net/glossary/glossary_h.htm#Hill_10).
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2014, 21:51
The many, many viewers of this thread might like to read this also:
Records Request Fulfilled: Michigan Attorney General releases complaints (http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/foia-request-michigan-attorney-general-releases-complaints)

and be sure to read the actual documents linked from the pages that are listed there.


193,171
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 30, 2014, 23:00
350,831

 (=.=)OOO
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: 10oriocookies on July 30, 2014, 23:45
That's like 160k in two months.  That's not lurking that OCD. 
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 31, 2014, 19:01
That's like 160k in two months.  That's not lurking that OCD.

 :o
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 18, 2014, 21:03
BDR is now hiring dogs.  ;)

Latest Best Drug Rehabilitation Blog Post Highlights How Dogs are Helping Addicts Recover - Midland News/PR Web
http://www.ourmidland.com/prweb/latest-best-drug-rehabilitation-blog-post-highlights-how-dogs-are/article_bc9f819a-e859-538d-8939-2b1ee5514b40.html

Also, my jaw fell to the floor on the claim that BDR, "believes having family close by during a stay can make a big difference." When has this ever been the case? Rarely, based on many complaints and reports.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on September 19, 2014, 01:29
Also, my jaw fell to the floor on the claim that BDR, "believes having family close by during a stay can make a big difference." When has this ever been the case? Rarely, based on many complaints and reports.
Accidentally true. It makes a big difference when arranging an escape--that and calling the police.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 19, 2014, 23:21
Also, my jaw fell to the floor on the claim that BDR, "believes having family close by during a stay can make a big difference." When has this ever been the case? Rarely, based on many complaints and reports.
Accidentally true. It makes a big difference when arranging an escape--that and calling the police.

True dat!

Sadly, most of the families end up on a flight from somewhere relatively far away to retrieve son/daughter/spouse or other.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on September 24, 2014, 18:29
This thread viewed 437080 times.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 24, 2014, 18:43
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Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on February 04, 2015, 18:50
While searching for a Native American-based program for her husband, this person found Best Drug Rehab. She was assured that the facility was qualified to deal with gambling, drug addiction, mental issues and anger control problems.

Alarm bells started to go off when staff members demanded the password to her husband's cell phone. Later, she learned that all of his medications had been withheld, including an antidepressant, without tapering.

Convinced her husband would need to be removed from the facility, she called a cab company and made a call to the Manistee police department.  The local authorities seemed to be familiar with the situation at the center. 

Also, mentioned in this Ripoff Report are deplorable facility conditions and untrained counselors (BDR graduates).

Complete details at http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/best-drug-rehabilition-/manistee-Michigan-49660/best-drug-rehabilition-i-am-not-an-emotional-wreck-manistee-Michigan-1203269
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 04, 2015, 22:10
Thanks for this information mefree. I am glad the wife is speaking up.

More of the same Scientology based anti-psych medicine dangers:

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All medication was denied to him without consideration the side effects from stopping the medication with out tapering it off. 

Per Wickstrom, being a good scientologist, placing patients in danger.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: georgenelson on February 10, 2015, 06:27
Thanks for sharing this useful information on drug addiction. Can you tell me some simple ideas to come out of drug addiction?
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 10, 2015, 08:31
Thanks for sharing this useful information on drug addiction. Can you tell me some simple ideas to come out of drug addiction?

Welcome. Your request is really not in an appropriate thread for such a disacssion but I will answer anyway.

First off, I am not sure what you mean "come out of addiction". If you mean, what are the different types of methods  to come off drugs and which are the simplest, I suggest you visit the National Institute of Drug Addiction site to obtain more specific information on treatment methods. Here are some links

DrugFacts: Treatment Approaches for Drug Addiction
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/treatment-approaches-drug-addiction

Principles of Drug Addiction Treatment: A Research-Based Guide
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/principles-drug-abuse-treatment-criminal-justice-populations-research-based-guide

Do visit our sister site, NarcononReviews.net for further information on how to choose a rehab and where to obtain information on licensing, complaints and such to make sure the facility is doing what it claims to do. Keep in mind that an addicted person has to want to get off drugs before anything can be done.
http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/narconon-vs-traditional-treatment-for-drug-addiction/

How to choose a rehab is most important
http://narcononreviews.net/resources/for-potential-clients/how-to-choose-a-drug-or-alcohol-rehab/

For locating a licensed  facility or program after understanding what to look for, visit this link, but beware that being listed here is not an endorsement by the government.
www.findtreatment.samhsa.gov
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 07, 2015, 21:20
Ripoff Report on BDR from June 5, 2015 and it's a doozy.

Best drug rehab They say whatever it takes to get you there battlecreek/manistee, michigan (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-drug-rehab-/michigan/Best-drug-rehab-They-say-whatever-it-takes-to-get-you-there-battlecreekmanistee-michiga-1233812)

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Ok to start off with I don't even know they got my phone number but they called me. The girl I spoke to raved about the place how it's like a resort there's physical trainers massage therapists saunas hot tubs ect. They tell me they pay for transportation to and from not to worry. So I get on a plane that night with nothing but a small bag and $25. I get there at 3am and this place is a ramshackle. They have ten bunk beds to a room and I might as well have been laying on a cot for all the comfort there was. They tried to force me to take suboxone which makes me nauseas instead of subutex. Finally got the subutex. But I am on two medications for bipolar depression and insomnia. They refused to allow me either one. Without even talking to my doc they just cut them off.
much more at http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-drug-rehab-/michigan/Best-drug-rehab-They-say-whatever-it-takes-to-get-you-there-battlecreekmanistee-michiga-1233812
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Alcie on July 12, 2015, 09:19
Hi, all. And thanks to ethercat for assisting in my registration here.

There's a rumor circulating in Manistee that Best Drug Rehab is purchasing/has purchased another building in the city. I haven't been able to substantiate the rumor but thought it best to collect information should the rumor turn out to be true. Thanks to everyone for all the information posted here and on narcononreviews.net. Please keep it coming.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on July 12, 2015, 12:17
Welcome Alcie!  Glad you made it here.   :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 12, 2015, 12:42
Welcome, Alcie!

Thanks for keeping us posted on Manistee happenings with Per Wickstrom's rehabs.

 :w:e:l:c:o:m:e:
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: BigBeard on July 12, 2015, 15:56
Ripoff Report on BDR from June 5, 2015 and it's a doozy.

Best drug rehab They say whatever it takes to get you there battlecreek/manistee, michigan (http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-drug-rehab-/michigan/Best-drug-rehab-They-say-whatever-it-takes-to-get-you-there-battlecreekmanistee-michiga-1233812)

Quote
Ok to start off with I don't even know they got my phone number but they called me. The girl I spoke to raved about the place how it's like a resort there's physical trainers massage therapists saunas hot tubs ect. They tell me they pay for transportation to and from not to worry. So I get on a plane that night with nothing but a small bag and $25. I get there at 3am and this place is a ramshackle. They have ten bunk beds to a room and I might as well have been laying on a cot for all the comfort there was. They tried to force me to take suboxone which makes me nauseas instead of subutex. Finally got the subutex. But I am on two medications for bipolar depression and insomnia. They refused to allow me either one. Without even talking to my doc they just cut them off.
much more at http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Best-drug-rehab-/michigan/Best-drug-rehab-They-say-whatever-it-takes-to-get-you-there-battlecreekmanistee-michiga-1233812

Sounds like they're practicing medicine without a license, as well as theft, by taking the persons meds away like that.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 12, 2015, 23:07
Sounds like they're practicing medicine without a license, as well as theft, by taking the persons meds away like that.

At times, I'm still amazed at the sheer arrogance it takes for Narconon to discontinue meds like this, without any thought for the potential consequences, despite any evidence in their previous experience as to how harmful the results can be. The rationalization hamster must keep them doing the same things over and over, expecting different results.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: AnonLover on July 19, 2015, 11:55
Recent PRWeb slime presser (something Wickstrom appears to being doing more often just like Scientology does) shows the name of the South Bend Narconon is Choices Recovery:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/choices-recovery/substance-abuse-seminar/prweb12844643.htm

With another cookie cutter'd rehab website (that matches all his other ones) at crehab dot org

A google news alert on "Wickstrom rehab" is now in order.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 19, 2015, 13:15
Yeah. Narconon, and friends, frequently do these kinds of press releases. Also, they do a lot of free advertising in local online newspapers by promoting free evaluations/assessments on community bulletin boards.

Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 28, 2015, 14:19
Best Drug Rehabilitation Manistee Expansion; Wickstrom Buys Another Building
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12921.msg29953/topicseen.html#new
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on May 23, 2016, 01:21
http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Best_Drug_Rehabilitation

BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES, 300 Care Center Drive, Manistee, MI 49660 picked up a complaint, February 10th.

https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/Files/ViewDocument/32494
BDRS: "Oh, THAT insurance money. The check is the mail."
LARA: "Our work here is done. Case closed!"

Also this:
https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/Files/ViewDocument/32495

That James Hoyt, Regulatory Officer, is like the Flash or something.

February 10th, 2016:
February 29th, 2016:
Okay, maybe those were just his days to shuffle Manistee paperwork. If someone was capturing all the LARA data, they could put together a pretty good daily schedule of locations that James Hoyt dealt with.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on May 24, 2016, 07:29
Just a note about Michigan's LARA: the agency has never closed a drug rehabilitation facility here in Michigan...ever!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on May 25, 2016, 19:35
Just a note about Michigan's LARA: the agency has never closed a drug rehabilitation facility here in Michigan...ever!

Hi, Miss Fortune! That's doesn't give one much hope, but LARA has done some good surveys. OTOH, most of the state agencies rubber-stamp the offered plan of correction from the rehabs. I'd like to see the agencies be a bit more assertive. :0L||O
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on June 29, 2016, 07:47
BEST DRUG REHABILITATION SERVICES at 300 Care Center Drive, Manistee, MI 49660 just got their yearly license bump to July 31, 2017.

I expect that the rest will follow soon before July 31, 2016, if not, then it's time to recheck for new names/companies/licenses at the old locations. Same as it ever was.

Category:Best Drug Rehabilitation (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Best_Drug_Rehabilitation)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: ethercat on June 30, 2016, 21:56
I'm glad you're keeping up with this stuff DH.   :)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on July 03, 2016, 17:12
I'm glad you're keeping up with this stuff DH.   :)
I have minions to do it for me.

Three more locations bumped to 2017:

A FOREVER RECOVERY  SA0130102 216 St Mary's Lake Rd, Battle Creek, MI 49017

A FOREVER RECOVERY  SA0130123 163 North Avenue, Battle Creek, MI 49017

SERENITY POINT RECOVERY INC.  SA0700123 15140 16th Avenue, Marne, MI 49435

Still a few more to go.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on July 08, 2016, 23:48
I'm glad you're keeping up with this stuff DH.   :)
I have minions to do it for me
;)
Title: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 10, 2017, 22:28
New Lawsuit posted:  BDR sues patient & family to collect,  gets sued back & is forced to dismiss case and future right to sue defendants

Best Drug Rehabilitation v. Does 1, 2 & 3
http://narcononreviews.net/lawsuits/best-drug-rehabilitation-v-does-1-2-3/

IMPORTANT:
Alert: Insurance Coverage & Collections Issues
http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/insurance-coverage-collection-issues/
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 20, 2017, 13:17
Nice to see so many more reading this thread in the last week.  It was around 59,300 or so, last time I looked before posting the previous comment about Best Drug Rehab lawsuit ^^^   :)

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Topic: Best Drug Rehabilitation  (Read 600105 times)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on January 20, 2017, 22:46
The thread remains quite popular.  ;D
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 13, 2017, 22:55
Best Drug Rehabilitation

Best Drug Rehabilitation

Best Drug Rehabilitation

Best Drug Rehabilitation
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on February 14, 2017, 17:49
BDR, BDR, BDR. Oh, and it might be a good time to review some Michigan related rehab info:
http://narcononreviews.net/location/michigan/


Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on March 23, 2018, 08:54
Best Drug Rehabilitation (https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Best_Drug_Rehabilitation) appears to be doing a name change. (Gosh, I wonder why?)

Their Michigan listings changed to "BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC. D/B/A GREAT LAKES REHABILITATION CENTER".
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 26, 2018, 16:52
Best Drug Rehabilitation (https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Best_Drug_Rehabilitation) appears to be doing a name change. (Gosh, I wonder why?)

Their Michigan listings changed to "BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC. D/B/A GREAT LAKES REHABILITATION CENTER".

Yeah.. not surprising at all :D

For the record here, their 2 licensing changes with that DBA name added  by LARA for their 2 locations in MI

BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC. D/B/A GREAT LAKES REHABILITATION CENTER    Health Systems Facilities    Substance Abuse    SA0510027
https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2311255

BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC. D/B/A GREAT LAKES REHABILITATION CENTER    Health Systems Facilities    Substance Abuse    SA0510026
https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2180024

Interestingly, between 2013 & 2014, Per Wickstrom used to have a Nevada Domestic Corporation named Great Lakes Treatment Centers Inc
https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=jCONb4i7sO2j14kLdsH8NQ%253d%253d&nt7=0

They were using that NV corp entity to try and obtain a property. Amber Howe was an officer at one point. Here is an example of the  BDR tie-in. While listing the Manistee address, there is no record of filing the entity and name in MI
https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2c1ztf/great-lakes-treatment-centers-inc

The latest use of the Great Lakes in their name, as you reported was filed here with the Michigan Secretary of State for Corporations

GREAT LAKES REHABILITATION CENTER   801063236   60543Q   2222 WEST GRAND RIVER AVE STE A OKEMOS, MI 48864 USA

ID Number: 801063236    
   
Summary for:  BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC.             
The name of the FOREIGN PROFIT CORPORATION:   BEST DRUG REHABILITATION, INC.
                 
Entity type:   FOREIGN PROFIT CORPORATION
Identification Number: 801063236    Old ID Number: 60543Q
   
Date of Qualification in Michigan:   09/13/2012    
 Incorporated under the laws of: the state of Nevada

CERTIFICATE OF ASSUMED NAME      01/29/2018   201821772200   201821772200.pdf, 2 pgs  https://cofs.lara.state.mi.us/CorpWeb/CorpSearch/CorpSearchRedirector.aspx?Action=PDF&Path=CORP_DRIVE1/2018/0129/000000000/8988/201821772200.pdf

However, they didn't to report the DBA name to the state of Nevada. Not sure if they are required. 
https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=v1Gnxu4spRmKS1Tj9LlLJw%253d%253d&nt7=0

Hard to keep up with all this name changing with these unbranded Narconons. Narconon reviews is due for an updated Locatuions on BDR and Elevate.

I appreciate your posting about this, DH


PS: readers can search MI corps here

https://cofs.lara.state.mi.us/CorpWeb/CorpSearch/CorpSearch.aspx

And MI facility Licenses and posted inspection reports here
https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/

And Nevada Corps here
https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpSearch.aspx
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Miss Fortune on April 09, 2018, 07:59
(http://usaddiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TCNet_GLT_205x600.jpg)http://usaddiction.com/treatment-centers/great-lakes-rehabilitation/ (http://usaddiction.com/treatment-centers/great-lakes-rehabilitation/)

It appears that "Great Lakes Treatment Center" is the new "umbrella" brand for these seven facilities:
1) Forever Recovery, Battle Creek, MI
2) Awakenings Rehabilitation, Albion, MI (formerly Narconon Freedom Center; operating at same location)
3) Behavioral Rehabilitation Services, Harrison, MI
4) Choices Recovery, South Bend, IN
5) Great Lakes Rehabilitation, Manistee, MI (formerly Best Drug Rehabilitation)
6) New Beginnings Recovery, Van Wert, OH
7) Serenity Point Recovery, Grand Rapids, MI (Marne)


Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: mefree on April 18, 2018, 21:11
Thanks, Miss Fortune! Looks like there are a few that need to be added to Narconon Reviews. (http://narcononreviews.net)
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 24, 2018, 21:29
(http://usaddiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/TCNet_GLT_205x600.jpg)http://usaddiction.com/treatment-centers/great-lakes-rehabilitation/ (http://usaddiction.com/treatment-centers/great-lakes-rehabilitation/)

It appears that "Great Lakes Treatment Center" is the new "umbrella" brand for these seven facilities:
1) Forever Recovery, Battle Creek, MI
2) Awakenings Rehabilitation, Albion, MI (formerly Narconon Freedom Center; operating at same location)
3) Behavioral Rehabilitation Services, Harrison, MI
4) Choices Recovery, South Bend, IN
5) Great Lakes Rehabilitation, Manistee, MI (formerly Best Drug Rehabilitation)
6) New Beginnings Recovery, Van Wert, OH
7) Serenity Point Recovery, Grand Rapids, MI (Marne)

I knew about Great Lakes, just didn't have time to post about it.. glad you did! but I not about Awakenings

Awakenings Rehabilitation must be separate Wickstrom unbranded Narconon. He must have booted NArconon out, lol

Narconon Freedom Center moved to a different location  505 Keefer Dr  Albion, MI 49224 sometime last year. I thought it was around Sept 2017


I appreciate you mentioning the new address for Narconon Freedom Center.  The BBB doesn't always get updated addresses right away.   Back in Sept 2017 I heard from a patient's family the facility was moving to a new location due to money problems, but I didn't know where to.

I checked the MI State Licensing the 505 Keefer Dr address is now listed for them. As well,  that new address is listed on some previous year reports the state provides the public. You may want to read the last 3 of the  2017 reports listed, as they discuss pretty serious violation matters. Last report is dated in Dec 2017. Here is the link:   https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2179425

It's clear now that it was probably in July or Aug 2017...

I'm going to check with the family member who told me about the financial problems NN Freedom Center, causing them to move. I was under the impression that the patient was there in Sept, just before the move. After seeing the Awakenings initial survey, linked below, I realize that all that had to be going on much earlier in the year if they were still at the 809 West Erie address.
 https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2420944
 
I wish more people would help keep an eye out for these things with the name changes, entity changes.   Appreciate you letting us know, Miss Fortune!
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on April 25, 2018, 08:41
Narconon Freedom Center moved to a different location  505 Keefer Dr  Albion, MI 49224 sometime last year. I thought it was around Sept 2017
The change of address showed up in LARA in May 2017.

It's not a different location, just a different address for the same place.
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 25, 2018, 13:39
Narconon Freedom Center moved to a different location  505 Keefer Dr  Albion, MI 49224 sometime last year. I thought it was around Sept 2017
The change of address showed up in LARA in May 2017.

It's not a different location, just a different address for the same place.

I don't know about that, DH....  I confirmed last night, with the relative of the patient who went Narconon Freedom Center in the fall of 2017 at the 505 Keefer Dr location.

That program corporation remains active, It uses a different mailing address for the MI Sec of State...  PO Box 755, Albion, MI.  Not sure if you can see this doc from the LARA MI corp entity search  website: https://cofs.lara.state.mi.us/CorpWeb/CorpSearch/CorpSearchRedirector.aspx?Action=PDF&Path=CORP_LEGACY/D201710\2017282\E0960450.tif

https://cofs.lara.state.mi.us/CorpWeb/CorpSearch/CorpSummary.aspx?ID=800918241&SEARCH_TYPE=1

 Business Entity Search – http://www.michigan.gov/corpentitysearch

Awakenings Rehabilitation was incorporated in Nevada in Jan 2017 but filed as a foreign corp in MI later in the year. 

In Nevada, iIt's 10/2017 annual report shows most of the officers at the 809 W Erie . This is standard for Per Wickstrom to do, file in MI as a foreign corp out of NV.  Not sure if you can see this NV Officers info doc. Click open.  https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/PrintCorp.aspx?lx8nvq=NO2B2vvhI7KgUHURbpVWaQ%253d%253d

Keep in mind that Narconon Freedom Center has been under the direct management of ABLE ( and previously Narconon WUS, which is now defunct) for some years now. It was a problem Narconon. The family member who contacted me in late 2017 told me that upper management officials came in and took the place over ( direct bypass) after they received that disastrous inspection review.   Most likely is was a financial decision to move.

My experience tells me that the only Narconon programs that transition into unbranded ones are those owned and operated by people who started the program. Like the Mansions in Northern CA

I guess moe research needs to be done on these 2 programs
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on April 26, 2018, 07:14
Narconon Freedom Center moved to a different location  505 Keefer Dr  Albion, MI 49224 sometime last year. I thought it was around Sept 2017
The change of address showed up in LARA in May 2017.

It's not a different location, just a different address for the same place.

I don't know about that, DH....  I confirmed last night, with the relative of the patient who went Narconon Freedom Center in the fall of 2017 at the 505 Keefer Dr location.

On the map, 505 Keefer Dr is the side entrance for 809 West Erie Street (https://www.google.com/maps/place/42%C2%B014'34.8%22N+84%C2%B045'53.0%22W/@42.2421805,-84.7663366,354m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d42.243002!4d-84.764724?hl=en).
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on May 25, 2018, 08:09
A bit of shuffling in Michigan's reports for Narconon Freedom Center.
The list of participants for the Follow up include Gwenda Byrne from ABLE. They had ZERO clients on site.

There was supposed have been an unannounced inspection within the next three months, so that should have happened, but there's no record of it yet. Typical.

https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2179425

Previous version: https://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Narconon_Freedom_Center&oldid=101374
Title: Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
Post by: DeathHamster on July 24, 2018, 11:16
Aaaand, Narconon Freedom Center is closed. Not by Michigan, just closed.

I guess Per will be relocating to another location under a different name.

https://w2.lara.state.mi.us/VAL/License/Details/2179425