Author Topic: Narconon of Georgia False Representation (was Re: The Desmond Family v. Narconon of Georgia, Narcono  (Read 33144 times)

Offline SomeonesSister

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I have filed a complaint with the DCH and they are looking into the issues of NNGA representing themselves as an inpatient facility when they are only licensed by the state of georgia as an outpatient treatment facility.  within 24 hours of filing my complaint online i was contacted by their office and they got right on it.  dhc has called me on several occasions for more info and if you complain too that will furthr bolster their case. 
they have threatened me with violating hipaa laws and even sent my loved one home over the weekend to "confront" me on the issue.  NNGA sent him/her home with  copy of the HIPAA pricvacy rules and had one section in particula highlighted.  they are accusing me of violating the law because i posted  comment on Narconon of Georgia's facebook page without giving any details other than, "my loved one is at NNGA and i am scared to death for his/her safety."  the comment did not show up on my facebook page so there is no way anyone would know who i was talking about unless they know us and i don't think any of my friends or theirs are hanging out on NNGA's facebook page.  the comment has since been removed.  i wonder why???
i urge you to file a complaint.   i will contact the BBB on monday and file a complaint with them as well.  i noticed on NNGA's website that they are accredited by the BBB so i did not complain to them, but have changed my mind after reading your post.  good luck and keep the faith.

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I have filed a complaint with the DCH and they are looking into the issues of NNGA representing themselves as an inpatient facility when they are only licensed by the state of georgia as an outpatient treatment facility.  within 24 hours of filing my complaint online i was contacted by their office and they got right on it.  dhc has called me on several occasions for more info and if you complain too that will furthr bolster their case.

Good for you on filing that complaint with DCH in GA.
 
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they have threatened me with violating hipaa laws and even sent my loved one home over the weekend to "confront" me on the issue.  NNGA sent him/her home with  copy of the HIPAA pricvacy rules and had one section in particula highlighted.  they are accusing me of violating the law because i posted  comment on Narconon of Georgia's facebook page without giving any details other than, "my loved one is at NNGA and i am scared to death for his/her safety."  the comment did not show up on my facebook page so there is no way anyone would know who i was talking about unless they know us and i don't think any of my friends or theirs are hanging out on NNGA's facebook page.

Sounds like scare tactics to me.

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after briefly scannimg the charts and descriptions of covered entities, i would say that i am not in violation of hipaa laws.  i am not scared of NNGA for myself, but for what they may do to my loved one.  they can bring it on with me...i can't stand liars, crooks and con artists.

thanks for posting that link for me...

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Sounds like scare tactics to me.

More on HIPAA: http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/index.html

Well, since I don't think SomeonesSister is any of these:
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A Health Care Provider
A Health Plan
A Health Care Clearinghouse
I seriously doubt she is covered under HIPAA.

i urge you to file a complaint.   i will contact the BBB on monday and file a complaint with them as well.  i noticed on NNGA's website that they are accredited by the BBB so i did not complain to them, but have changed my mind after reading your post.  good luck and keep the faith.

All being accredited by the BBB means is that they paid some money to be a member, but it is certainly worth the time and trouble to file a complaint.  Besides, they've only been accredited since 08/19/2011.

SomeonesSister, you beat me to the punch on the info about HIPPA.   ;)
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As I view narCONon of Georgia FaceBook page it looks very misleading. Student housing? Click on the pic.




http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150160067609291.300639.68292324290&type=3
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If I recall correctly, the housing in those photos is from another housing site they use, not the facility and not the place where the woman recently complained her sister was at originally placed first.

Here SomeonesSister states that they moved her sister to a place run by Darrell Hall  after she complainted
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=9939.msg21741#msg21741

Too bad I didn't see that post first, as I wasted a lot of time trying to locate the guy's name  ::)

Narconon GA sauna is not on site, either.

Its address could be  this place listed in the various yellow pages on the net as either franchise or housing authority  ::)

2007 Summerchase Dr Duluth, GA
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So, it seems they are promoting the apartments as recovery residences (halfway) in addition to housing clients currently in treatment at NN of Georgia.
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So, it seems they are promoting the apartments as recovery residences (halfway) in addition to housing clients currently in treatment at NN of Georgia.
Exactly! The consumer visiting those web pages looks and see,s happy people @ the pool??? and what looks like a nice stand alone rehab residence. If I set aside by thoughts on narconon and just look @ this as if I was searching for a quality treatment facility, those photos would lead me to believe it is a safe and comfortable environment. Anyway one looks @ this, It is in my opinion false advertising.

 As DCH has a rather new inspector general, It would behoove the consumer to contact him directly. Lower administrative folk may be of help in the complaint department, But going to the top with your complaints and concerns could be of benefit here.

 We the consumer watch the watch dogs. That is why we pay taxes, so things like this can be addressed.On another note,I wonder if the apartment complex is aware that they are being used in narconon material. The holding company that owns the apartments should be made aware.
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http://discoverycourse.com/current-students/


If I recall correctly, the housing in those photos is from another housing site they use

You are correct Mary. As litigation moves forward on the Desmond wrongful death case I'd image the housing location of which is party to said lawsuit would not be housing students @ this time. ( I hope )

 It would be of interest to this poster if anyone has made management of this new housing location aware of what their leasee is up to!

 It would also be of interest if in fact Don and Maria Delgado (Party to the wrongful deah lawsuit) have anything to do with the setup of this newer (several years ago ) location.

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 Wow! Does Discovery course represent itself as a rehab facility? looks like it to me. That and they do not list the address.

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http://discoverycourse.com/current-students/


If I recall correctly, the housing in those photos is from another housing site they use

You are correct Mary. As litigation moves forward on the Desmond wrongful death case I'd image the housing location of which is party to said lawsuit would not be housing students @ this time. ( I hope ) It would be of interest to this poster if anyone has made management of this new housing location aware of what their leasee is up to!

 It would also be of interest if in fact Don and Maria Delgado (Party to the wrongful deah lawsuit) have anything to do with the setup of this newer (several years ago ) location.

They are still using the apts at One Sovereign Place, as mentioned by SomebodysSister.
Her sister was there and they were using tape on the door to keep students in there. ( see her first post) After complaining , the sister was moved to where Discovery course is located.( mentioned in a later post)

SOVEREIGN PLACE LLC & SOVEREIGN PLACE APARTMENT MANAGEMENT INC were dismissed from the lawsuit. I suspect they may be brought back in if evidence is found that they lied in some wayin depos or documents.
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This is where the other apartments are, Sunshine (Summerchase). Thanks for pointing out the other addresses.

The Narconon Gulf Coast on Tuxedo was a surprise!
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Narconon/Housing/Sauna with ongoing updates.
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2012, 18:10 »
Apartment complex where Darrell Hall,s company http://discoverycourse.com/about/ is housing NarCONon of Georgia,s rehab clients.




Apartment complex where Don Delgado,s company housed deceased rehab client Patrick Desmond for NarCONon of Georgia.





Past and or current location of sauna facility used by NarCONon of Georgia. Operated by Pur-O-Cleanse (CEO, Martin Cohen) desolves company shortly after Patrick W Desmond lawsuit filed.





 It is to my understanding the entities/individuals whom run the housing and sauna operations are members of the church of Scientology.

 It is to my understanding the entities/individuals whom operate NarCONon of Georgia are members of the church of Scientology.

 Questions concerning Darrell Hall and http://discoverycourse.com/about/.

 Does the city of Duluth Georgia know of and have licensed Darrell Hall and or Discoverycourse to operate within Duluth Ga and or Gwinnett county or the state of Georgia for that matter as a treatment/rehabilation housing operation?

 What are the legalities within the city of Duluth Ga and Gwinnett county to use an apartment complex as a place of business on this scale?

 What are Darrell Hall,s qualifications in order to provide housing/rehabilatative care for NarCONon of Georgia,s rehab clients?


 What relationship if any does Darrell Hall of http://discoverycourse.com/about/ have or had with Don Delgado whom operated a similar service "Delgado Development INC" in Sandy Springs Georgia with full knowledge of NarCONon of Georgia @ the One Sovereign Place apartment complex?

 NOTE: One Sovereign Place is were deceased NarCONon of Georgia client Partrick W Desmond was housed.

 Have in the past or currently are NarCONon of Georgia,s Mary Rieser,Darrell Hall of http://discoverycourse.com/about/ and Don and Maria Delgado "Delgado Development INC" intentionally deceiving their clientele and or the State of Georgia,s DCH?

 Are the above parties working in concert together? Vehicles used to transport current NarCONon rehab clients  by Darrell Hall of http://discoverycourse.com/about/ have been seen in the past transporting " Delgado Development INC" housed individuals @ One Sovereign Place.

 
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Re: Narconon/Housing/Sauna
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2012, 19:09 »
Great info and good questions.

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Re: Narconon/Housing/Sauna
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2012, 21:17 »
Thanks for the pics, ST. You have been busy!
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Re: Narconon/Housing/Sauna with ongoing updates.
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2012, 23:57 »
I PMd this to ST but I thought I would post it since there is this whole thread.

Pur-O-Cleanse sauna place @ 6487 Peachtree Industrial # C doraville, GA closed up, building went into forclosure and now bank owns and is selling it.
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17454990/6487-Peachtree-Industrial-Boulevard-Doraville-GA/
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