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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon and related groups => Topic started by: snippy on May 18, 2014, 19:09

Title: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: snippy on May 18, 2014, 19:09
Too good to be true? May 16, 2014:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okedce/6:2014cv00187/23316

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Plaintiff:    National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. and American Academy of Certified Forensic Counselors, Inc.
Defendant:    Narconon International, Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc., Narconon of Georgia, Inc., Pita Group, Inc., Narconon - Hawaii, Friends of Narconon Intl., Narconon of Northern California, Premazon, Inc., Intervention Services and Technologies, Inc., Narconon Spring Hill, Inc., Best Drug Rehabilitation.Inc., A Life Worth Living, Inc., Narconon Fresh Start, Inc., Narconon South Texas, Inc., Narconon Eastern United States, Inc., Association for Better Living and Education International, Religious Technology Center, Narconon Trois-Rivieres, Narconon Freedom Center, Inc., Narconon London, Narconon, Incorporated, Golden Millennium Productions, Inc., International Academy of Detoxification Specialists, The Virtual Workforce Co., Ltd., Encognitive.com, GreatCircle Studios, LLC, Church of Scientology International, Royalmark Management, Inc., Gary W. Smith, Derry Hallmark, Rebecca Pool, Janet Watkins, Tom Widman, Vicki Smith, Michael Otto, Michael J. Gosselin, Kathy Gosselin, Michael George, Kent McGregor, James McLaughlin, Robert Newman, Joseph Sauceda, Robert J. Hernandez, Robert Wiggins, Jonathan Beazley, Nicholas Bailey, Joseph Guernaccini, Kevin Lee, Sharon Kubacki, Philip R. Kelly, II, Thomas Garcia, Jason Burdge, Steven K. Bruno, Clark Carr, Dena G. Goad, Michael DiPalma, D. Eric Mitchell, Shana Austin, Nick Hayes, Scott Burgess, David Miscavige, Tibor Palatinus, Sylvain Fournier, Nicholas Thiel, David S. Lee, Richard Hawk, Marcel Gemme, Mary Rieser, Anthony Bylsma, Kenneth H. Pomerance, Richer Dumais, James Woodworth, Carl Smith, Desiree Cardoso, Jonathan Moretti, Michael St. Amand, Cheryl Williams, Marc Bernard, Glen Petcavage, Martin Gamsby, Daphna Hernandez and Luria K. Dion
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: SocialTransparency on May 18, 2014, 20:50
Too good to be true? May 16, 2014:
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okedce/6:2014cv00187/23316

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Plaintiff:    National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. and American Academy of Certified Forensic Counselors, Inc.
Defendant:    Narconon International, Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc., Narconon of Georgia, Inc., Pita Group, Inc., Narconon - Hawaii, Friends of Narconon Intl., Narconon of Northern California, Premazon, Inc., Intervention Services and Technologies, Inc., Narconon Spring Hill, Inc., Best Drug Rehabilitation.Inc., A Life Worth Living, Inc., Narconon Fresh Start, Inc., Narconon South Texas, Inc., Narconon Eastern United States, Inc., Association for Better Living and Education International, Religious Technology Center, Narconon Trois-Rivieres, Narconon Freedom Center, Inc., Narconon London, Narconon, Incorporated, Golden Millennium Productions, Inc., International Academy of Detoxification Specialists, The Virtual Workforce Co., Ltd., Encognitive.com, GreatCircle Studios, LLC, Church of Scientology International, Royalmark Management, Inc., Gary W. Smith, Derry Hallmark, Rebecca Pool, Janet Watkins, Tom Widman, Vicki Smith, Michael Otto, Michael J. Gosselin, Kathy Gosselin, Michael George, Kent McGregor, James McLaughlin, Robert Newman, Joseph Sauceda, Robert J. Hernandez, Robert Wiggins, Jonathan Beazley, Nicholas Bailey, Joseph Guernaccini, Kevin Lee, Sharon Kubacki, Philip R. Kelly, II, Thomas Garcia, Jason Burdge, Steven K. Bruno, Clark Carr, Dena G. Goad, Michael DiPalma, D. Eric Mitchell, Shana Austin, Nick Hayes, Scott Burgess, David Miscavige, Tibor Palatinus, Sylvain Fournier, Nicholas Thiel, David S. Lee, Richard Hawk, Marcel Gemme, Mary Rieser, Anthony Bylsma, Kenneth H. Pomerance, Richer Dumais, James Woodworth, Carl Smith, Desiree Cardoso, Jonathan Moretti, Michael St. Amand, Cheryl Williams, Marc Bernard, Glen Petcavage, Martin Gamsby, Daphna Hernandez and Luria K. Dion

Damn! Looks like a whose who of the narCONon/scientology crime syndicate getting served. Is this about how some of these people gained their cert,s?

The clampire will not be pleased. GOOD!
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 18, 2014, 21:03
Oh, yes!  This is big!
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okedce/6:2014cv00187/23316

Case Number:    6:2014cv00187
Filed:    May 16, 2014
 
Court:    Oklahoma Eastern District Court
Office:    Muskogee Office
County:    Pittsburg
Presiding Judge:    Kimberly E. West
 
Nature of Suit:    Trademark
Cause of Action:    15:1121
Jury Demanded By:    Both

Trademark Infringement.  Most, if not all, of the defendants are scientology entities and/or people.

Related threads:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12318.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12282.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12731.0.html


Eric!
  O^^:O


https://forums.whyweprotest.net/community/threads/national-association-of-forensic-counselors-vs-narconon.118493/
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: SocialTransparency on May 18, 2014, 21:21
Oh, yes!  This is big!
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okedce/6:2014cv00187/23316

Case Number:    6:2014cv00187
Filed:    May 16, 2014
 
Court:    Oklahoma Eastern District Court
Office:    Muskogee Office
County:    Pittsburg
Presiding Judge:    Kimberly E. West
 
Nature of Suit:    Trademark
Cause of Action:    15:1121
Jury Demanded By:    Both

Trademark Infringement.  Most, if not all, of the defendants are scientology entities and/or people.

Related threads:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12318.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12282.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12731.0.html


Eric!
  O^^:O


https://forums.whyweprotest.net/community/threads/national-association-of-forensic-counselors-vs-narconon.118493/

 TradeMark infringment. Wonder what took them(NAFC) so long to pursue this?
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 18, 2014, 21:42
They got their ducks dominoes in a row first.  They've included right up to the top of the Co$ hierarchy.

Narconon International
Association for Better Living and Education International
Religious Technology Center
Church of Scientology International
David Miscavige


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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 18, 2014, 22:34
Oh, yes!  This is big!
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oklahoma/okedce/6:2014cv00187/23316

Case Number:    6:2014cv00187
Filed:    May 16, 2014
 
Court:    Oklahoma Eastern District Court
Office:    Muskogee Office
County:    Pittsburg
Presiding Judge:    Kimberly E. West
 
Nature of Suit:    Trademark
Cause of Action:    15:1121
Jury Demanded By:    Both

Trademark Infringement.  Most, if not all, of the defendants are scientology entities and/or people.

Related threads:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12318.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12282.0.html
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12731.0.html


Eric!
  O^^:O


Woah! 
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 18, 2014, 23:58
Dox here:
http://narcononreviews.net/lawsuits/nafc-v-narconon-and-church-of-scientology-many-defendants/

Spread it around, please. 

It's my bedtime.   wO:)zzzz
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: snippy on May 19, 2014, 00:47
 o>--< ^o: L-O-:
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Miss Fortune on May 19, 2014, 15:40
Just posted a story on my blog: http://www.glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2014/05/breaking-news-per-wickstroms-best-drug.html

It includes Jason Burdge's expired certificate hot from the Best Drug Rehabilitation website (downloaded it a year ago when this story first broke).

Feel free to extract the image and post it...for some reason, the Javascript doesn't work on my computer.



Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: failboat on May 19, 2014, 16:41
Congratulations to you all on this epic win.  I'm sure that the efforts of RFTTP, along with those of WWP, ESMB, the Bunker, and other activist communities all contributed to making this happen.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 19, 2014, 18:17
Thank you, failboat.  When we all work together doing what we can, we can get amazing results. 

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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 19, 2014, 18:27
Just posted a story on my blog: http://www.glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2014/05/breaking-news-per-wickstroms-best-drug.html

It includes Jason Burdge's expired certificate hot from the Best Drug Rehabilitation website (downloaded it a year ago when this story first broke).

Feel free to extract the image and post it...for some reason, the Javascript doesn't work on my computer.

Here ya go, Miss Fortune:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1q-Q9iKnVgE/U3pHC5dn_AI/AAAAAAAAC9M/1ud-E2SPt9I/s1600/Best-Drug-Rehab-4-1+Burdge+CCDC.PNG)
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on May 20, 2014, 12:05
Oh, boy! William Kent McGregor's bogus "Pita Group, Inc." is among the list of defendants.

Hope the folks with badges are paying attention to even some of the stuff I suspect will be coming out in depositions.

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Miss Fortune on May 20, 2014, 12:59
Thank you!
Just posted a story on my blog: http://www.glisteningquiveringunderbelly.blogspot.com/2014/05/breaking-news-per-wickstroms-best-drug.html

It includes Jason Burdge's expired certificate hot from the Best Drug Rehabilitation website (downloaded it a year ago when this story first broke).

Feel free to extract the image and post it...for some reason, the Javascript doesn't work on my computer.

Here ya go, Miss Fortune:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1q-Q9iKnVgE/U3pHC5dn_AI/AAAAAAAAC9M/1ud-E2SPt9I/s1600/Best-Drug-Rehab-4-1+Burdge+CCDC.PNG)
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 20, 2014, 23:44
Terrific article, Miss Fortune!  The domino effect has begun!

Got quite a few chuckles on:

"Among the 82 named defendants (including the Thumbelina of Scientology, David Miscavige) are Per Wickstrom's Best Drug Rehabilitation, Inc. and the Manistee facility's Deputy Executive Director, Jason Burdge (left). "

and

"Gird your loins, Per Wickstrom! Your saddle's about to get chapped."
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 21, 2014, 07:49
Terrific article, Miss Fortune!  The domino effect has begun!

Got quite a few chuckles on:

"Among the 82 named defendants (including the Thumbelina of Scientology, David Miscavige) are Per Wickstrom's Best Drug Rehabilitation, Inc. and the Manistee facility's Deputy Executive Director, Jason Burdge (left). "

and

"Gird your loins, Per Wickstrom! Your saddle's about to get chapped."

Priceless! This lawsuit may have far-reaching effects.

 ooo}
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: who me? on May 21, 2014, 10:41
Just a quick THANK YOU to all who have helped expose this fraudulent network. I am hoping the legal battles will cut off many of the heads of this hydra, and cauterize the cuts to prevent more from sprouting.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on May 21, 2014, 11:05
Just a quick THANK YOU to all who have helped expose this fraudulent network. I am hoping the legal battles will cut off many of the heads of this hydra, and cauterize the cuts to prevent more from sprouting.

:)
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Miss Fortune on May 21, 2014, 16:56
Thank you! Can't wait to keep up the pressure!

Terrific article, Miss Fortune!  The domino effect has begun!

Got quite a few chuckles on:

"Among the 82 named defendants (including the Thumbelina of Scientology, David Miscavige) are Per Wickstrom's Best Drug Rehabilitation, Inc. and the Manistee facility's Deputy Executive Director, Jason Burdge (left). "

and

"Gird your loins, Per Wickstrom! Your saddle's about to get chapped."

Priceless! This lawsuit may have far-reaching effects.

 ooo}
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 22, 2014, 08:46
A press release from Richardson, Richardson, Boudreaux and Keesling:

NAFC Alleges Narconon Int’l and Church of Scientology Int’l, Along with 80 other Defendants, Misused NAFC Logos and Trademarks and Falsified Certifications - PR Web (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11872344.htm)
NAFC, Inc., represented by Richardson, Richardson, Boudreaux & Keesling, PLLC, Files Suit Against Narconon International, Church of Scientology International and 80 Other Named Defendants

Tulsa, Oklahoma (PRWEB) May 21, 2014

The National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. (NAFC) and its subsidiary, the American Academy of Certified Forensic Counselors, d/b/a American College of Certified Forensic Counselors, Inc. (ACCFC) filed a complaint (Case No. 14-cv-00187-KEW in Eastern District Court of Oklahoma located in Muskogee, OK) by and through their legal counsel, David R. Keesling of Richardson, Richardson, Boudreaux & Keesling, PLLC against Narconon International, the Church of Scientology International and 80 other named defendants. The case alleges the Defendants conspired to willfully misuse the NAFC logos and trademarks and falsified certifications supposedly obtained through the NAFC or the ACCFC to misrepresent the credentials of their employees and volunteers to promote the Narconon Network.

NAFC provides nationally accredited certifications to individuals who have met specific requirements and received specialized training to provide services to people with addictions, mental health issues, criminal justice problems and corrections needs. NAFC is the only organization to offer an accredited Certified Chemical Dependency Counselor (C.C.D.C.) certification on a national level and has never delegated the authority to provide such certifications to any of the named Defendants.

Allegedly, the Narconon Network willfully misused (and continues to misuse) Plaintiff NAFC’s logos, trademarks and false certifications to further the goals and purposes of the Church of Scientology International. Specifically, Plaintiffs claim that the misuse was calculated to increase the credibility of the Narconon Treatment Centers and the affiliated counselors, and to expand the reach and profitability of the Church of Scientology International to Plaintiffs’ detriment.

The Complaint alleges that the repeated abuse and misuse of the NAFC logos, trademarks and certifications have caused NAFC to suffer:


Further, the Defendants’ misrepresentations allegedly have caused the public to believe the Defendants are approved by or affiliated with NAFC.

This suit seeks an immediate injunction to prevent the unauthorized use of NAFC certifications, trademarks and logos along with compensatory, statutory and punitive damages, plus attorneys’ fees.

For further information or questions, contact David R. Keesling by e-mailing nafc(at)rrbklaw(dot)com or calling 918.492.7674. The full complaint can be viewed and downloaded at http://www.richardsonlawfirmpc.com/nafc-vs-narconon-church-of-scientology-intl.

Source: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/05/prweb11872344.htm

Attorney Profile, David R. Keesling (http://richardsonlawfirmpc.com/david-keesling-esq/)
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on May 22, 2014, 12:09
IRS, are you listening??

Now if only the national press and news services pick this up. Especially the investigative ones.

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on May 22, 2014, 13:28
I am almost in tears after reading this. 

Am I still lying Narconon?
Am I still the bad guy?

God gives his toughest battles to his greatest warriors.  Thank you to all that have supported me and given me the courage to speak the truth.

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 22, 2014, 13:51
I am almost in tears after reading this. 

Am I still lying Narconon?
Am I still the bad guy?

God gives his toughest battles to his greatest warriors.  Thank you to all that have supported me and given me the courage to speak the truth.

 \*/ Thanks for being a part of Reaching for the Tipping Point, Eric!
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 22, 2014, 17:01
Awww, you're gonna make me cry too, 10oriocookies.  We're so glad you're here.   @->---(=O
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2014, 15:48
Narconon of Georgia and DCH posts split into its own topic:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12786.0.html
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on May 24, 2014, 15:51
“Eric Tenorio is claiming that the PITA Group issues certificates to Narconon
Arrowhead staff without examinations for a fee. Completely aside from whether
certificates issued based on work experience in a field are a valid form of
recognition of an individual’s competence, the state of Oklahoma does not
recognize Pita Group certificates and, as Narconon informed you, its staff
members have no certificates issued by the Pita Group. All certificates of its
doctors, nurses and drug counselors are earned.
Nor is Narconon’s license to
operate based on any certificates issued by the Pita Group.”


This is what the Church of Scientology sent NBC to try and discredit me.  Silly rabbits. 

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 01, 2014, 01:35
"The recent federal lawsuit filed by the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC) is frivolous, unfounded and unnecessary. None of the Narconon organizations named claim any affiliation whatsoever with the NAFC. Furthermore, while certain Narconon Arrowhead employees in the past were certified as Chemical Dependency Counselors by the NAFC, neither Narconon Arrowhead nor any Narconon Arrowhead employee has had any affiliation with the organization for more than a year.

 For nearly 50 years, countless individuals and families worldwide have salvaged lives, healed wounds and reclaimed hope through Narconon's programs. In a state ranked No. 1 in prescription drug abuse, where two Oklahomans on average die each day from overdoses and where more people die from drug abuse than in traffic accidents Narconon Arrowhead offers an effective, secular program focused on solutions, not talk or rhetoric."

Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.

Board of Directors


This is funny.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on June 01, 2014, 11:01
"The recent federal lawsuit filed by the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC) is frivolous, unfounded and unnecessary. None of the Narconon organizations named claim any affiliation whatsoever with the NAFC. Furthermore, while certain Narconon Arrowhead employees in the past were certified as Chemical Dependency Counselors by the NAFC, neither Narconon Arrowhead nor any Narconon Arrowhead employee has had any affiliation with the organization for more than a year.

 For nearly 50 years, countless individuals and families worldwide have salvaged lives, healed wounds and reclaimed hope through Narconon's programs. In a state ranked No. 1 in prescription drug abuse, where two Oklahomans on average die each day from overdoses and where more people die from drug abuse than in traffic accidents Narconon Arrowhead offers an effective, secular program focused on solutions, not talk or rhetoric."

Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.

Board of Directors


This is funny.

Hilarious, because NAFC surely has loads of evidence to the contrary in preparing for this lawsuit.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 01, 2014, 11:09
The funny part is that they say "countless".  They keep exact stats on their "products".
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on July 25, 2014, 08:23
More on the NAFC lawsuit at Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker with documents included.

A lawsuit over counseling credentials now aims at the essence of Scientology - The Underground Bunker (http://tonyortega.org/2014/07/24/a-lawsuit-over-counseling-credentials-now-aims-at-the-essence-of-scientology/)
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We have a few legal updates for you, and they involve the lawsuit filed by the National Association of Forensic Counselors against Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, many of its employees, and Scientology’s leader, David Miscavige, as well.

A total of 82 defendants are scrambling to deal with the lawsuit, which alleges that they conspired to misuse the counseling certifications that the NAFC regulates. Masterminding the conspiracy, the NAFC alleged in its complaint, was Miscavige from his perch as the Chairman of the Board of the Religious Technology Center (RTC), Scientology’s nominally controlling entity.

More at http://tonyortega.org/2014/07/24/a-lawsuit-over-counseling-credentials-now-aims-at-the-essence-of-scientology

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: DeathHamster on August 08, 2014, 16:01
More lawsuit news:
http://tonyortega.org/2014/08/08/the-axiomatic-l-ron-hubbard-and-legal-counterclaims-in-oklahoma/
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Things heating up again in Oklahoma

Scientology’s various entities are firing back now at the National Assocation of Forensic Counselors (NAFC), which filed a lawsuit against 82 defendants it claimed were misusing its logos and trademarks in order to make Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, appear more legitimate than it really is. We’ll let our legal types pore over these documents and let us know what they think about Scientology’s salvos…

Narconon International’s motion to dismiss
Narconon Oklahoma’s answer and counterclaim
Narconon South Texas, Eastern US, and Spring Hill motion to dismiss
Royalmark, Greatcircle, Premazon, and Jonathan Moretti motion to dismiss
Narconon Georgia motion to dismiss
Church of Scientology International motion to dismiss
Kent McGregor’s answer and counterclaim
Religious Technology Center’s reply in support of its motion to dismiss
Kent McGregor's response is mainly repeated babble. "To the extent that an answer is required, MCGREGOR is without sufficient knowledge to admit or deny those allegations and therefore denies them."

Too bad for him that he was in Oklahoma for a while (still has at least one domain registered there), as were others named in the lawsuit.
http://tonyortega.org/2014/08/08/the-axiomatic-l-ron-hubbard-and-legal-counterclaims-in-oklahoma/#comment-1533989238
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on August 09, 2014, 10:17
We'll see how many can wiggle out of this lawsuit. My impression is that NAFC has done their homework, and then some.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on August 09, 2014, 13:49
If it proceeds to discovery and trial, rather than some kind of settlement, this lawsuit has the potential to blow the Cof$ corporate sham wide open. I'm hoping, but not laying in the popcorn yet, that happens.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 10, 2014, 19:10
Despite his tooting his own horn in the usually exaggerated manner, McGregor's complaint does have a point, in that he was served a Cease and Desist long before the lawsuit and apparently did remove stuff... I didn't check much but he states he took down what he was asked to get down, saying he did it for everything he was able to take down.

What I find interesting in his info and the Narconon Int's responses is regarding the correctional industry related certificates and how they are not applicable to the trademark. There is nothing in the trademark docs on line that mentions CCDC nor the logo NAFC. That when they first obtained trademark all it was for was NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FORENSIC COUNSELORS. It expired in 2002.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:ga9mlg.2.2
The same mark was registered anew in 2006
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:ga9mlg.2.1
 
Both state the use of the above is for "Goods and Services    IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Association services, namely, promoting the interests of forensic counselors. FIRST USE: 19950823. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950823"

Another unrelated company holds trademark for NAFC, applied for in 2010
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4807:7rogd2.2.2

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The Origination of the Forensic Counselor and
Criminal Justice Specialist

About the NAFC and Certification

The Founder of the National Association of Forensic Counselors ("NAFC") is the “Father of Forensic Counseling” and the originator of the professional designations and definitions of “Forensic Counselor” and “Criminal Justice Specialist”.
http://www.nationalafc.com/?Home:About_NAFC

I also find it interesting McGregor mentions having a Diplomat of the Board Cert and a MAC type cert he obtained from NAFC. He gives the number and such, and that it established and earlier relationship between he and NAFC. If this is true and it was never rescinded.

Overall, this is going to be interesting to see unfold.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on August 11, 2014, 18:11
History on the active NAFC trademark registration with logo is found here:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=+%093585933&caseType=US_REGISTRATION_NO&searchType=documentSearch

See specimen in the list of documents for the logo.

Also the dead registration specimen is found here: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn75556839&docId=SPE20091001141149#docIndex=7&page=1
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 11, 2014, 19:28
History on the active NAFC trademark registration with logo is found here:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=+%093585933&caseType=US_REGISTRATION_NO&searchType=documentSearch

See specimen in the list of documents for the logo.

Also the dead registration specimen is found here: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn75556839&docId=SPE20091001141149#docIndex=7&page=1

Thanks for the links and sorry I didn't catch mine incorrect ones in time to see they wouldn't work once I closed my browser :P

That last link you posted is interesting... a dead trademark right to the logo for NAFC. Looks like someone forgot to keep up with paperwork matters. Seems to me that the claim of use of that logo issue against some of the defendants who used it on their websites may not hold water, unless it's restricted or conditional use is a stipulation agreed upon for obtaining the certifications.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Sunshine on August 12, 2014, 19:46
Not sure how to present the info, please feel free to edit.

The bullet points are from Narconon International motion to dismiss 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/236199023/NAFC-vs-Narconon-Motion-To-Dismiss-by-NN-Int

Below are statements from Narconon International (NI) and Narconon Western United States (WUS) Form 990's.

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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 14, 2014, 00:43
^^^^
This is very good, sunshine. I don't have time right now to look but I would hoipe some of that info on both entity returns is also mentioned in more recent  990s.

For anyone wanting to look, here are the locations of the 990's

Narconon WUS 990s through 2012
http://www.eri-nonprofit-salaries.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=651238009&BMF=1&Cobrandid=0&Syndicate=No

Narconon Int 990s through 2012
http://www.eri-nonprofit-salaries.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&EIN=952769582&BMF=1&Cobrandid=0&Syndicate=No

Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on August 14, 2014, 05:22
The ERI site is a good one for finding 990 info, but I've discovered they don't have all of them. At least not listed under Narconon. Two other sites I've found very useful for tracking down 990's are:

Foundation Center: http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/990finder/

Guide Star: http://www.guidestar.org/AdvancedSearch.aspx

Searching by EIN, if you have it, often gets things that have been through the name morphing process that might otherwise be missed.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Sunshine on August 20, 2014, 16:32
What I was trying to do with my previous post, using  Narconon International (NI)  Form 990's  show a relationship with Narconon Oklahoma that I think is outside the typical Narconon contract and the link between Narconon International and Narconon Western United States (WUS) (also applies to Narconon Eastern United States).

This maybe a bunch of BS but take a read  and see what you think.

I would like to follow up with the NI/WUS relationship and add Narconon Eastern United States (EUS) and Association for Better Living (ABLE).

How is WUS related to NI, from WUS 2012 Form 990 Part IV Checklist of Required Schedules?
Box 34, the x is under the yes column so Schedule R must be completed
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Schedule R Part II Requires name of related organization
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Schedule A Part 1 requires the organization to select it’s reason to be classified as a public charity
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WUS selected Schedule "A" Part I 11c "Functionally integrated"
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Who is WUS functionally integrated with according Schedule A 11h (A) Narconon International.
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From http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i990sa/ch02.html#d0e407
•   Type III—Functionally Integrated. Check this box if the organization is not described in Type I or Type II above and qualifies as a Type III functionally integrated supporting organization by meeting the following requirements:
1.   The organization meets the notification requirement described in line 11h, column (v);
2.   The organization meets the responsiveness test (both the relationship requirement and the significant voice requirement) described in Regulations section 1.509(a)-4(i)(3); and
3.   The organization meets the integral part test by engaging in activities substantially all of which directly further the exempt purposes of one or more supported organizations, and, but for the supporting organization's involvement, such activities would normally be engaged in by the supported organizations; or, alternatively, by being the parent of each of its supported organizations. See Regulations section 1.509(a)-4(i)(4).
Transition Rule. On December 28, 2012, new regulations changed this integral part test for a Type III functionally integrated supporting organization, primarily by requiring that “substantially all” of the organization's activities must directly further the supported organizations' exempt purposes. Some organizations that met the integral part test for prior tax years may no longer meet the new integral part test. However, under transition rules (Regulations section 1.509(a)-4(i)(11)(ii)(A)), an organization in existence on December 28, 2012 that met and continues to meet the prior integral part test for Type III functionally integrated supporting organizations will be deemed to have met the new integral part test for its first tax year beginning after December 28, 2012 only, and therefore may check the box for line 11c, if it satisfies the other requirements for Type III functionally integrated supporting organizations. For subsequent tax years, the organization must meet the new integral part test in order to qualify as functionally integrated.

Number 3 from above is interesting:
3.   The organization meets the integral part test by engaging in activities substantially all of which directly further the exempt purposes of one or more supported organizations, and, but for the supporting organization's involvement, such activities would normally be engaged in by the supported organizations; or, alternatively, by being the parent of each of its supported organizations. See Regulations section 1.509(a)-4(i)(4).

If WUS was not created would NI be performing the tech assist and supervision of the facilities?

So what is the function of WUS?
WUS's function is to provide technical assistance and supervision to existing Narconon Facilities.
Below are parts of  WUS 2012 Form 990 with my comments
The purpose of WUS is stated in Part I Summary "Technical assistance and supervision of drug rehabilation centers"
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Part III  Statement of Program Service Accomplishments. "Technical assistance and supervision of drug rehabilitation centers".
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 WUS income from Part VIII "Tech Assistance to Rehab Centers" for over $900,000.00.
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How many drug rehabilitation centers does WUS supervise (10), from Part III 4a.
Also note in the comment that WUS "continued its expansion at existing centers"
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So according to WUS they provide technical assistance and supervision for 10 rehab facilities in the western part of the United States

What function does WUS perform for NI, from WUS 2012 Form 990 Part IV, by "FURNISHING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THEIR BEHALF TO LOCAL NARCONON DRUG REHABILIATION CENTERS IN THE WESTERN UNITED STATES"
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Also from NI 2012 Form 990, NI spent over 1.4M assisting and supervising Rehab Centers.
NI 2012 Form 990 Part IX Statement of Functional Expenses 24a list "Asst & Supv of Rehab Ctrs" for over 1.4M.
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WUS also holds funds for NI.
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Narconon Eastern United States (EUS)
Narconon Eastern United States (EUS) is basically the same a WUS and they supervise 7 facilities.
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Their income from program revenue for 2012 is $527758
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How do they generate that revenue same as WUS Part VIII Statement of Revenue 2a Tech Asst & Supv of Rehab Ctrs  $527188
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What is the total cost of WUS and EUS to provide technical assistance and supervision?
From above WUS
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From above EUS     
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Total cost = $1428031.00

Remember WUS and EUS are functionally related to NI, from NI 2012 Form 990 Part IX 24 Statement of Functional Expenses 24b  Asst & Supv of Rehab Ctrs. $1460527.00
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Looks like NI funds WUS and EUS and they follow NI's directions.

Association for Better Living (ABLE).
Assumption which maybe wrong.
Narconon International = NI
Narconon Westeren United States = WUS
Narconon Easteren United States = EUS
If above is correct, ABLE does have direct contact with Narconon other than licenses.
From ABLES’s 2012 Form 990
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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 20, 2014, 19:31
Hi Sunshine, I knew what you meant but it's impoortant to have timely documentation. I think you have proved that with your second post here.

What most of us who research this group of organizations has known is that they are connected and managed. There was enough documentation for Narconon International to be included in the Desmond case and the Oklahoma cases. Desmond case did not bother with EUS at the time of filing, as it has little money, but later on documentation came in showing they had a direct link between NN Int and the GA facility. So I always suggest attorneys include the regional branch ( EUS or WUS or whatever ) in their lawsuits as they have a plethora of local facility management documentation.

Keep digging. You are onto terrific information that will help in these cases and more to come.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on August 20, 2014, 23:23
NN WUS and NN EUS are part of the NN Int Group Exemption Letter assigned Group Exemption Number (GEN) 2595. If you look in field "H(c)" on page 1 of the 990 you should see GEN 2595 entered. A slightly dated listing, and explanation of the relationships, follows. Note NN Int is 2595 03 6, while the subordinate organizations are 2595 03 9. Hope this helps understand the relationships:

Narconon Int is the Central, or Parent, organization to the group of Subordinate organizations covered by the Group Exemption Letter, which was assigned the Group Exemption Number 2595. If their Form 990 is only for themselves, then field H(a) should be checked 'No', and the GEN doesn't have to be entered. If H(a) is 'Yes', the 990 is also for subordinate organizations the the GEN is entered so the IRS will know which group of subordinate organizations to look at. Subordinate organizations always have to include the GEN.

Some time back I dumped the IRS Select Check Exempt Organization by Area (EOA) databases (a bit under 500MB of data) and pulled a sample of Narconons from it (minus the data between the 'Affiliate' code and 'DBA' name that's not relevent to this discussion). The basic format is:

EIN, Organization Name, Address, GEN, SubCode, Affiliate Code, NTEE (if used), DBA Name
The explanations of the codes follows the list.

Central/Parent Organization to GEN 2595:
952769582 NARCONON INT 4652 HOLLYWD BLVD LOS ANGELES CA 90027-5408 2595 03 6 F20

Subordinate Organizations to GEN 2595:
954853440 NARCONON INT 13850 GRABER AVE SYLMAR CA 91342-2622 2595 03 9 NARCONON DRUG PREVENTION & EDUCATI
954536141 NARCONON INT 622 E VILLA ST PASADENA CA 91101-1120 2595 03 9 FRIENDS OF NARCONON
770275827 NARCONON INT 262 GAFFEY RD WATSONVILLE CA 95076-9731 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
731690918 NARCONON INT 611 S FT HARISN AVE CLEARWATER FL 33756-5301 2595 03 9 NARCONON EASTERN UNITED STATES
731589280 NARCONON INT 69 ARROWHEAD LOOP CANADIAN OK 74425-5012 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF OKLAHOMA
651238009 NARCONON INT 225 W BROADWAY STE 420 GLENDALE CA 91204-1331 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON WESTERN UNITED STATES
593035096 NARCONON INT 22073 US HIGHWAY 19 N CLEARWATER FL 33765-2364 2595 03 9 NARCONON FLORIDA
550828683 NARCONON INT 4652 HOLLYWOOD BLVD LOS ANGELES CA 90027-5408 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON OF WEST HOLLYWOOD
421534941 NARCONON INT 5688 PEACHTREE PKWY NORCROSS GA 30092-2848 2595 03 9 NARCONON OF GEORGIA
330911677 NARCONON INT 225 W BROADWAY STE 420 GLENDALE CA 91204-1331 2595 03 9 NARCONON FRESH START
042606410 NARCONON INT 76 WINN ST STE 2C WOBURN MA 01801-2868 2595 03 9 F20 NARCONON BOSTON

Independent Organizations:
743193939 NARCONON JOSHUA HILLS PO BOX 13075 PALM DESERT CA 92255-3075 0000 03 3 F22
204122923 NARCONON LOUISIANA NEW LIFE RETREAT 35059 BEND RD DENHAM SPGS LA 70706-0655 0000 03 3 F22 NARCONON LOUISIANA


Group Exemption Number:
2595 - Narconon International and subordinate Narconon's Group Exemption Number
0000 - Organization is not part of a group exemption, e.g., Narconon Joshua Hills.
Licensed by Narconon Int, but (on paper anyway) not controlled by it.

SubSection:
03 - Charitable Organizations

Affiliate:
6 - Central - This code is used if the organization is a parent of a group ruling. In this case EIN 952769582
9 - Subordinate - This code is used if the organization is a subordinate in a group ruling.
3 - Independent - This code is used if the organization is an independent organization or auxiliary
(i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations).

National Taxonomy of Exempt Entities - Core Codes (NTEE-CC):
F - Mental Health & Crisis Intervention
Alchohol/Substance Abuse
F20 - Substance Abuse Dependency, Prevention & Treatment
F21 - Substance Abuse Prevention
F22 - Substance Abuse Treatment
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on September 23, 2014, 20:55
David Miscavige, you’ve been served: Leader of Scientology will need to respond to NAFC suit - The Underground Bunker (http://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/david-miscavige-youve-been-served-leader-of-scientology-will-need-to-respond-to-nafc-suit/)
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What’s it like to try and serve Scientology leader David Miscavige with a lawsuit? We now have a pretty good idea.

Back in May, the National Association of Forensic Counselors filed a lawsuit against 82 defendants, including Miscavige, as well as various entities and people associated with Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon.

The lawsuit accuses Scientology of conspiring to misuse the NAFC’s logo and trademarks in order to make Narconon appear more legitimate than it is, and ultimately to draw more people into Scientology itself.

more, including video at http://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/david-miscavige-youve-been-served-leader-of-scientology-will-need-to-respond-to-nafc-suit/
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on September 23, 2014, 21:39
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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on November 15, 2014, 09:42
Classic is right! This looks to be straight out of the scientology harassment-by-litigation playbook.

Classic Scientology shenanigans as class action lawsuit is filed against legal opponent NAFC - The Underground Bunker - Tony Ortega (http://tonyortega.org/2014/11/14/classic-scientology-shenanigans-as-class-action-lawsuit-is-filed-against-legal-opponent-nafc/)
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Wasn’t it just yesterday we made the point that Scientology is incapable of evolving into a more benign form?

For you connoisseurs of classic Scientology legal chicanery, you’re going to love the full body and complex flavors of this vintage.

Yesterday, the National Association of Forensic Counselors filed a pointed response to Scientology leader David Miscavige’s motion to dismiss himself from the NAFC’s massive 82-defendant federal lawsuit against the church and its drug rehab network, Narconon.

As we told you earlier, Miscavige’s motion had been written by one of Scientology’s most colorful legal voices, Jeffrey K. Riffer, who made a name for himself writing bombastic, over-the-top letters to Vanity Fair and CNN in which he made his client, Miscavige, sound more holy than the saints in heaven. And the motion also contained a smeary attack on the NAFC’s president, Karla Taylor, which we expected NAFC attorney David Keesling to answer rather forcefully.

He did do that, but in his response, Keesling also referred to a stunning new development: On October 6, Clark Carr, the president of Narconon International (pictured above and characterized as a “Miscavige lackey” by Keesling), quietly filed a class action lawsuit against the NAFC and Taylor in Los Angeles Superior Court, claiming fraud and alleging that his fellow (unnamed) victims number in the untold hundreds.
more, including docs at http://tonyortega.org/2014/11/14/classic-scientology-shenanigans-as-class-action-lawsuit-is-filed-against-legal-opponent-nafc/

For those unfamiliar with scientology's litigious history, a few resources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_the_legal_system
http://umbraxenu.wiki-site.com/index.php/Scientology_lawsuits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thriving_Cult_of_Greed_and_Power
http://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-spring-2001/scientology-defamation-laws
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Sunshine on November 15, 2014, 21:25
Funny Narconon would cite the Pennsylvania case.

16. In 2002, the state of Pennsylvania denied the petition of Taylor and
5 Deisler to be recognized to certify drug and alcohol counselors. Most importantly, they
6 falsely stated that NAFC certificates were recognized by the state of California.

From  http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-commonwealth-court/1163422.html

Dr. Deisler further testified that Petitioner is approved in the States of California, Oregon, Washington and Alabama as a certifying body for alcohol and drug abuse counselors.   In addition, Petitioner certifies the drug abuse counselors in the United States Army and is the only certification body for the United States Coast Guard's family advocacy program for addictions counselors and domestic violence.   Petitioner also certifies the Federal Bureau of Probation and Parole and a number of other State probation and parole departments.   Dr. Deisler also noted that the State of Indiana, which is where Petitioner is based, recognized Petitioner for the purposes of “grandfathering” in the licenses of mental health counselors.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 18, 2014, 05:32
Funny Narconon would cite the Pennsylvania case.

16. In 2002, the state of Pennsylvania denied the petition of Taylor and
5 Deisler to be recognized to certify drug and alcohol counselors. Most importantly, they
6 falsely stated that NAFC certificates were recognized by the state of California.

From  http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-commonwealth-court/1163422.html

Dr. Deisler further testified that Petitioner is approved in the States of California, Oregon, Washington and Alabama as a certifying body for alcohol and drug abuse counselors.   In addition, Petitioner certifies the drug abuse counselors in the United States Army and is the only certification body for the United States Coast Guard's family advocacy program for addictions counselors and domestic violence.   Petitioner also certifies the Federal Bureau of Probation and Parole and a number of other State probation and parole departments.   Dr. Deisler also noted that the State of Indiana, which is where Petitioner is based, recognized Petitioner for the purposes of “grandfathering” in the licenses of mental health counselors.

I don't see where they falsely testified in the PA case, or where found to have done do. Not at the time of this case, in 2002/2003



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David Keesling tells us there’s a fascinating bit of sleight of hand going on here. He says that Carr is mischaracterizing the NAFC’s status in California — though Keesling did acknowledge that the NAFC fell off of a particular list of recommended credentialing organizations assembled by the state. The reason? Because of the NAFC’s association with Scientology.

Many of our readers will be familiar with Nanette Asimov’s epic 2004 series about Narconon in the San Francisco Chronicle which motivated the state of California to take a hard look at the drug rehab network. The state didn’t like what it saw, and as a result, the NAFC was dropped from a list of approved organizations. Here, we’ll let Keesling give a more complete version of it in a statement he sent us yesterday…
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    In 2005, the California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs (CA ADP) adopted regulations mandating certain requirements for alcohol and other drug addiction counselors (AODA). Included in these regulations was a list of certifying bodies that were approved by the CA ADP for AODA counselor certification in the State of California.

    Prior to the adoption of these regulations, the CA ADP did not “recognize” or “approve” any certifying body; however, they maintained a “Directory of Alcohol and Other Drug Counselor Certifying Organizations” which stated, in part, “California does not regulate the credentialing or certification of treatment and recovery counselors, nor does it accredit organizations that provide certification services…However, the AOD field has developed a variety of private sector counselor credentialing and certifying organizations in order to meet the need for specialized counselors …You are encouraged to contact these organizations to obtain additional information regarding their certification requirements and services.”

    The NAFC and the NBAE were included in this Directory.

    In January of 2005, the California Department of Education released a report on the Narconon Drug Abuse Prevention Program (NDAP) conducted by the California Healthy Kids Resource Center. The NDAP was found to be “inaccurate,” contained “misleading drug-related information,” and “does not reflect accurate, widely accepted medical and scientific evidence…”

    Consequently, it was found that the NDAP was not appropriate and should not be presented to students in the California school system. Contained within the NADP High School Curriculum were the following false statements regarding the credentialing of Narconon presenters by the NAFC/NBAE:

    • Why Narconon Drug Education in Our Schools?…Use of Trained Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors with Years of Experience Working with High School Student.

    • Most of the Narconon presenters have a wealth of experience:…have worked professionally in the drug rehab field and are CCDCs (Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors)

    Within a few months of this report on the NDAP, the NAFC was excluded from the opportunity to be included on the new list of approved certifying bodies. The NAFC was not even given the opportunity to apply for inclusion on this new list developed for the newly adopted regulations, even though the NAFC had been previously included in the California Directory and met and/or exceeded the new requirements for approval of certifying organizations.

So, here’s the upshot. Keesling is saying that it was its association with Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, that got the NAFC caught up in a bureaucratic roadblock in California. But now the president of Scientology’s Narconon International is suing the NAFC, claiming that the NAFC’s complications with California are an example of the NAFC’s fraud. Do you see the circularity of that?

Keesling tells us that yesterday, he had Carr’s class action lawsuit removed to federal court, and he says he’s confident that the NAFC will succeed in getting it dismissed.

Can you explain?
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 28, 2015, 20:41
Michigan seeks to pull rapist's psychologist license - Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/)
By Paul Egan, Detroit Free Press   May 27, 2015
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LANSING — A repeat rapist who lied on his state application has been a licensed psychologist in Michigan for more than 20 years, the State of Michigan says in a complaint laying the groundwork to remove his license.

Francis John Deisler, who is based in Indiana but has also worked in Michigan under a limited license, has convictions for rape in Wisconsin in 1973 and 1974, plus a 1973 conviction for armed robbery and multiple 1974 convictions for burglary and attempted burglary, according to an administrative complaint filed by the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs on May 7.

In his 1993 application for a Michigan psychologist's license, Deisler, who was sentenced to 15 years in prison, said he had never been convicted of a crime and provided an inaccurate birth date and social security number, the complaint alleges.

Deisler could not be reached for comment, but an attorney representing an association Deisler founded said Deisler has always presented himself as a product of rehabilitation and has not tried to hide his criminal past.

more at http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on May 29, 2015, 21:14
I sent the reporter a little email.:-)
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on May 30, 2015, 11:41
I sent the reporter a little email.:-)

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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: SocialTransparency on May 30, 2015, 13:46
Michigan seeks to pull rapist's psychologist license - Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/)
By Paul Egan, Detroit Free Press   May 27, 2015
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LANSING — A repeat rapist who lied on his state application has been a licensed psychologist in Michigan for more than 20 years, the State of Michigan says in a complaint laying the groundwork to remove his license.

Francis John Deisler, who is based in Indiana but has also worked in Michigan under a limited license, has convictions for rape in Wisconsin in 1973 and 1974, plus a 1973 conviction for armed robbery and multiple 1974 convictions for burglary and attempted burglary, according to an administrative complaint filed by the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs on May 7.

In his 1993 application for a Michigan psychologist's license, Deisler, who was sentenced to 15 years in prison, said he had never been convicted of a crime and provided an inaccurate birth date and social security number, the complaint alleges.

Deisler could not be reached for comment, but an attorney representing an association Deisler founded said Deisler has always presented himself as a product of rehabilitation and has not tried to hide his criminal past.

more at http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/05/27/repeat-rapist-held-michigan-psychologist-license-years/28004433/
What a mess.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on June 14, 2015, 12:44
Unfortunately, there is more:

A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Report
Social worker obtained state licenses despite criminal past - Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinal (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html)
By John Diedrich and Cary Spivak of the Journal Sentinel   June 13, 2015

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Francis Deisler came to Wisconsin in the early 1970s with a lengthy criminal résumé but a chance at a fresh start, having helped authorities bust New York mobsters.

But Deisler soon returned to crime.

He raped several women while their husbands were at work. He robbed a Milwaukee bank and burglarized homes. And he kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old girl.

Deisler was convicted and spent a decade behind bars. He got out and became a licensed social worker and therapist in Wisconsin and two other states, specializing in treating addicts and sex offenders. After moving to Indiana, he launched several social service businesses and founded a national social worker training and accreditation organization.

More at http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 14, 2015, 13:58
None of it (in my opinion) changes the case against Narconon and the Church.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: SocialTransparency on June 14, 2015, 16:10
Unfortunately, there is more:

A Journal Sentinel Watchdog Report
Social worker obtained state licenses despite criminal past - Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinal (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html)
By John Diedrich and Cary Spivak of the Journal Sentinel   June 13, 2015

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Francis Deisler came to Wisconsin in the early 1970s with a lengthy criminal résumé but a chance at a fresh start, having helped authorities bust New York mobsters.

But Deisler soon returned to crime.

He raped several women while their husbands were at work. He robbed a Milwaukee bank and burglarized homes. And he kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old girl.

Deisler was convicted and spent a decade behind bars. He got out and became a licensed social worker and therapist in Wisconsin and two other states, specializing in treating addicts and sex offenders. After moving to Indiana, he launched several social service businesses and founded a national social worker training and accreditation organization.

More at http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/social-worker-obtained-state-licenses-despite-criminal-past-b99512228z1-307274191.html
Speechless.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on June 14, 2015, 16:37
While Deisler's conduct is sickening, it actually has nothing to do with the case. And is being used by narCONon as "smoke and mirrors" to try and smear and discredit NAFC though guilt by association.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on June 14, 2015, 20:36
I'm sure someone from the "church" fed them the news story.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: DeathHamster on June 15, 2015, 13:38
I'm sure someone from the "church" fed them the news story.
That and this:
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Michigan now does background checks on applicants for psychologist licenses but that practice didn't start until 2008, said Jason Moon, a spokesman for the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs. There had been no complaints against Deisler until a recent one that led to the state complaint, he said.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on June 15, 2015, 22:31
^^^
Absolutely. That pretty much clinches it.
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: BigBeard on March 27, 2016, 19:09
NAFC has refiled in Indiana, as reported by Tony O. in "The Underground Bunker" yesterday:

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As promised, the National Association of Forensic Counselors refiled its massive lawsuit alleging trademark violations against Scientology, its leader David Miscavige, and 38 other defendants.

This is the lawsuit, you’ll remember, that accuses Scientology and its drug rehab network, Narconon, of misusing the NAFC’s logo and making false claims that its employees had received NAFC certifications in order to convince the public that Narconon’s employees are properly licensed as drug counselors.

The NAFC and its president, Karla Taylor, had originally filed its lawsuit against 82 defendants in Oklahoma, because that’s where Scientology has its flagship rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead. But Miscavige successfully argued that he should be dropped from the lawsuit because he lives and works primarily in California, and the NAFC is in Indiana, so he should not be a party to a lawsuit filed in a third, and unrelated state, Oklahoma.

So now, NAFC has refiled against Miscavige in its home state of Indiana, and with the help of the Indianapolis law firm of Saeed and Little. That name should be familiar — Jonathan Little handles numerous lawsuits against Narconon, and was featured in yesterday’s blog post.

More at: http://tonyortega.org/2016/03/26/talking-scientology-with-actor-and-podcaster-ethan-mckinley/ (http://tonyortega.org/2016/03/26/talking-scientology-with-actor-and-podcaster-ethan-mckinley/)

The filing itself can be seen at https://www.scribd.com/doc/305975639/NAFC-v-Scientology-New-complaint-filed-in-Indiana?secret_password=DVBOhSTlZGYoKLT3mlBQ (https://www.scribd.com/doc/305975639/NAFC-v-Scientology-New-complaint-filed-in-Indiana?secret_password=DVBOhSTlZGYoKLT3mlBQ)

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Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on June 07, 2016, 09:00
NAFC names David Miscavige a witness in Scientology trial scheduled for October - The Underground Bunker (http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/07/nafc-names-david-miscavige-a-witness-in-scientology-trial-scheduled-for-october/)
Tony Ortega
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We talked yesterday with David Keesling, the attorney who is representing the National Association of Forensic Counselors. In 2014 the NAFC filed a massive, complex, and highly technical lawsuit against the Church of Scientology, its leader David Miscavige, and 80 other defendants associated with Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon.

The NAFC accused Scientology of misusing the NAFC’s trademarks in a conspiracy aimed at making Narconon appear more legitimate than it actually is. NAFC president Karla Taylor initiated the lawsuit after she learned from former Narconon employees (http://tonyortega.org/2013/02/21/narconon-staff-certifications-in-jeopardy-after-new-whistleblower-comes-forward/) Lucas Catton and Eric Tenorio allegations that NAFC certifications for individual drug counselors were fraudulently obtained, and that Narconon’s websites misleadingly made use of the NAFC’s logo.

more at http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/07/nafc-names-david-miscavige-a-witness-in-scientology-trial-scheduled-for-october/
Title: Re: National Association of Forensic Counselors, Inc. v. Narconon International
Post by: mefree on October 08, 2016, 08:34
I admire Karla Taylor for her fortitude in the face of this latest invasion of her privacy. How can this be possible?
Scientology, it's always worse than you think.

What’s the worst that can happen when you sue Scientology? Here’s one frightening example. - The Underground Bunker - Tony Ortega (http://tonyortega.org/2016/10/07/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-when-you-sue-scientology-heres-one-frightening-example/#more-34577)
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It’s the kind of nightmare courtroom scenario that keeps all but a few lawyers from going near litigation with the Church of Scientology.

On August 26, a woman who for two years has been suing numerous Scientology-connected people and entities was ordered by a federal district court to turn over the entire contents of her personal laptop hard drive to the people she was suing.

Everything on her hard drive. Her personal emails with her own attorneys. Emails to her family members. Her personal photographs. Her personal medical records. Even photographs of her breasts that she had taken to document her fight against breast cancer.

Gigabytes of intensely personal information and photos and passcodes, all handed over by a federal magistrate judge to the attorneys representing Scientology’s entities.

more at http://tonyortega.org/2016/10/07/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-when-you-sue-scientology-heres-one-frightening-example/#more-34577