Author Topic: Sunshine Summit Lodge Narconon is Dirty and Unsafe (Read 31571 times)

ethercat · « **on:** November 21, 2011, 11:59 »

Apparently, the stories we've heard about dirty and unsafe conditions at Narconon facilities are true, at least in this case.

This is a Notice of Deficiency from the California Health and Human Services Agency, Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs for Narconon Fresh Start (formerly Narconon Southern California) specifically cited against Sunshine Summit Lodge on as inspected on September 14, 2011. This was an unannounced licensing compliance review conducted at 35025 Highway 79 in Warner Springs, California 92086. Executive Director Malia Martyak was present for the review.

Deficiencies are categorized as Classes A, B, and C. Narconon Sunshine Summit Lodge received 9 citations for Class B deficiencies, and 4 for Class C.

Class A: problems which present imminent danger to residents, and must be corrected immediately.

Class B: potential health danger to residents, staff, and visitors, and must be corrected within 30 days of notice of deficiency. There is a $50 per day fine that begins accruing on the 30th day until the licensee submits verification that all deficiencies are corrected or until the date a written CAP (Corrective Action Plan) is received and approved by the Department.

Class C: appear to be administrative type deficiencies, such as record keeping and documentation, and includes a fine of $25 per day for each citation beginning on the 31st day.

Maximum fee per day is $150.

Some of the class B deficiencies cited are things that will make you go EEWW! I'll just note a few, and you can read the document yourself if you haven't already gagged from what I mention here (read the document even if you have already gagged; it is truly disgusting):

Refrigerator at 48 degrees, spoiled milk and uncovered liquid supplements inside
Large pot of oil uncovered on stove in kitchen
Laundry table with rotting wood
Cigarette butts all over the ground outside a room
Uncovered electrical outlets
Spider/cob webs
Furniture that should be repaired or thrown out
Mold and filth found everywhere

Here is the document:
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/Narconon/Narconon_San_Diego_Notice_of_Deficiency-2011-09-14.pdf

Given this information, who would willingly send their loved one here? How can one be expected to recover from addiction in surroundings like this? These are the people who are supposed to be teaching and providing an example to recovering addicts about the proper way to live without drugs??

Who would even want something like this in their county or their state?

Many thanks to the person who provided the document for us.

We have another thread about this facility; in 2010 the water system was tested by the County Department of Environmental Health and was found to contain coliform bacteria: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,4259.0.html

mefree · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:13 »

Quote from: ethercat on November 21, 2011, 11:59

Apparently, the stories we've heard about dirty and unsafe conditions at Narconon facilities are untrue, at least in this case.

Did you mean true?

I bet that place is full of mold with all of the ceiling leaks, yuck!

ethercat · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:43 »

Quote from: mefree on November 21, 2011, 12:13

Quote from: ethercat on November 21, 2011, 11:59
Apparently, the stories we've heard about dirty and unsafe conditions at Narconon facilities are untrue, at least in this case.

Did you mean true?

I bet that place is full of mold with all of the ceiling leaks, yuck!

Quite right, I guess I was in too big of a hurry - correcting now.

Sunshine · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2011, 18:40 »

From WWP

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/narconon-application-warner-springs.97028/#post-1971891

ethercat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2011, 19:35 »

I'll see your WWP and raise you a RFTTP: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6887.0.html

Ok, now I don't know the area, or how many narconons they may have on Hwy 79, but the RFTTP thread shows:
Resident Capacity: 6
Total Occupancy: 8

And in this new PDF, they claim 6 staff - I'm confused; is this something to look at? Or are these 2 different places?

Sunshine · « **Reply #5 on:** November 28, 2011, 22:57 »

There are two facilities licensed by the California Alcohol and Drug Program (ADP) in Sunshine Summit, Narconon Fresh Start JBL Ranch and Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge.

In 2002 Narconon Southern California was required by the County of San Diego to apply and have approved a Major Use Permit (MUP) in order to operate a residential drug rehab facility. After two planning commission hearings and an appeal to the County Board of Supervisors, the MUP (MUP 01-020) was approved in December 2002 and Narconon Warner Springs opened in 2003.

Narconon Warner Springs, Narconon San Diego, Sunshine Summit Lodge and now Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge are all the same facility. The address is 35025 Highway 79 Warner Spring CA 92086.

Narconon Fresh Start JLB Ranch 35955 Highway 79 Warner Spring about a mile west of the lodge on Highway 79 opened sometime in 2009/2010 not sure the date, perhaps someone could find out.

Due to serving 6 or fewer clients Narconon JLB is not required to have a MUP to operate- reply #5 http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6887.0.html

But to be licensed by ADP the facility is required to provide a fire clearance from the fire authority that has jurisdiction, in this case the San Diego County Fire Marshal. The form required is ADP’s Form 850 and it is completed by the fire marshal then submitted to ADP.

In the case of JLB Ranch, the size of the house and layout determines the number of clients/staff that can reside at the facility, six clients and two staff.

Sunshine · « **Reply #6 on:** November 28, 2011, 22:58 »

Its JLB Ranch not JBL.
Sorry.

SocialTransparency · « **Reply #7 on:** November 30, 2011, 18:09 »

Google earth shows the address as the middle of the road way. A closer look via street view does not look like a very soothing environment . Kind of looks like its out in the boondocks. I bet a million dollars the facility has beige walls and overhead fluorescent lights to hurt ones eyes.

ethercat · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:01 »

Thanks for the clarification, Sunshine.

mefree · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2011, 10:20 »

Quote from: Sunshine on November 28, 2011, 22:57

Narconon Fresh Start JLB Ranch 35955 Highway 79 Warner Spring about a mile west of the lodge on Highway 79 opened sometime in 2009/2010 not sure the date, perhaps someone could find out.

Due to serving 6 or fewer clients Narconon JLB is not required to have a MUP to operate- reply #5 http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6887.0.html

But to be licensed by ADP the facility is required to provide a fire clearance from the fire authority that has jurisdiction, in this case the San Diego County Fire Marshal. The form required is ADP’s Form 850 and it is completed by the fire marshal then submitted to ADP.

In the case of JLB Ranch, the size of the house and layout determines the number of clients/staff that can reside at the facility, six clients and two staff.

So, by opening a smaller operation not subject to the MUP, they manage to avoid additional oversight. Y/N?

Sunshine · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2011, 12:07 »

That is correct, in the state of California 6 or fewer clients is considered the same as a residential home and the county/city cannot impose restrictions that are different from a typical family’s residents.

mefree · « **Reply #11 on:** December 03, 2011, 13:09 »

Thanks, Sunshine.

Mary_McConnell · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2011, 20:18 »

I don't know how I missed this thread, the juicy dox and additional information!!

mefree, the JLB Ranch is still required to be licensed with only 6 beds. The are on the ADP list I believe.

I bet Narconon So Cal got busted for having more patients at WArner Springs than they were licensed for, having patients residing in this place before it was licensed and they got the bright idea to adapt it with a sauna and apply for another facility license, than risk losing 6 more bodies to add to their weekly management 'statistics'. BTW, they were using this name on the internet before they applied for their dba and facility licenses. Seen that before...

mefree · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2011, 20:32 »

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I bet Narconon So Cal got busted for having more patients at WArner Springs than they were licensed for, having patients residing in this place before it was licensed and they got the bright idea to adapt it with a sauna and apply for another facility license, than risk losing 6 more bodies to add to their weekly management 'statistics'. BTW, they were using this name on the internet before they applied for their dba and facility licenses. Seen that before...

I'm not surprised. Following rules, guidelines or laws isn't a priority for some.

Mary_McConnell · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2011, 20:36 »

Yes, thank you to who ever provided this document! I shall spread the news of this thread.
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/Narconon/Narconon_San_Diego_Notice_of_Deficiency-2011-09-14.pdf

Too bad they didn't catch them on a day when they were over capacity, which is normal for them.

It will be interesting to find out what the training program for staff will be. Too bed the inspoector didn't know about all the volunteers they pay a recent graduates turned staff trainees a stipend to, who are not even recorded or treated as staff but who deal directly with "students."

I wish they would visit all the facilities in CA and more often. The fines are too low if you ask me.

Thanks so much for making me happy tonite reading this. It shows that sometimes the complaints get action, even in slow sunny California where the complaint backlog grows and grows for lack of a viable budget

Sunshine · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2012, 15:12 »

The address for Narconon New Life, Narconon San Diego, Narconon Warner Springs and Narconon Sunshine Summit Lodge is 35025 Highway 79 Warner Springs CA 92086

Check out the address in the crime report below

http://www.localcrimenews.com/lookup.php?jid=6609151

Mary_McConnell · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2012, 16:23 »

Quote from: Sunshine on November 28, 2011, 22:57

There are two facilities licensed by the California Alcohol and Drug Program (ADP) in Sunshine Summit, Narconon Fresh Start JBL Ranch and Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge.

In 2002 Narconon Southern California was required by the County of San Diego to apply and have approved a Major Use Permit (MUP) in order to operate a residential drug rehab facility. After two planning commission hearings and an appeal to the County Board of Supervisors, the MUP (MUP 01-020) was approved in December 2002 and Narconon Warner Springs opened in 2003.

Narconon Warner Springs, Narconon San Diego, Sunshine Summit Lodge and now Narconon Fresh Start Sunshine Summit Lodge are all the same facility. The address is 35025 Highway 79 Warner Spring CA 92086.

Narconon Fresh Start JLB Ranch 35955 Highway 79 Warner Spring about a mile west of the lodge on Highway 79 opened sometime in 2009/2010 not sure the date, perhaps someone could find out.

Due to serving 6 or fewer clients Narconon JLB is not required to have a MUP to operate- reply #5 http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6887.0.html

But to be licensed by ADP the facility is required to provide a fire clearance from the fire authority that has jurisdiction, in this case the San Diego County Fire Marshal. The form required is ADP’s Form 850 and it is completed by the fire marshal then submitted to ADP.

In the case of JLB Ranch, the size of the house and layout determines the number of clients/staff that can reside at the facility, six clients and two staff.

You just know they have other unlicensed locations beside this JLB place... right in that area. Just like Narconon Joshua Hills dba Narconon Desert rehab sis ( 6 houses for a license for 6 people! - thankfully shut down now)

I bet that the only reason they filed for a license on JLB Ranch is that they got caught via a complaint from someone who was staying at that JLB address. I knew about the location but not the address until about a year ago but complaints go farther back about being in a smaller place nearby to the lodge.

Sunshine · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2012, 18:53 »

Warner Springs Arrest Records
Arrest Information

BLOCKED: PRIVACY PROTECTION* Map It
35025 Highway 79
Warner Springs , CA 92086-9709 Verified Address

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Reported: 12/09/2011 by Crime Reporter: 5081
Crime Report #: 6609151
Source: Southwest Detention Center SD

F HS11350(A) Possession Of A Controlled Substance
M HS11550(A) Use/Under Influence Controlled Substance

Bail Amount: 5000
Residing in Crime Beat Zone: San Diego North County Coastal

http://www.localcrimenews.com/lookup.php?jid=6609151

Mary_McConnell · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2012, 19:06 »

So glad we have you here, Sunshine! You are so resourceful!

Perhaps the facility reported the student? They do actually do that some times. I mean, have you seen that area? Looks like a ghost town, lol

xenubarb · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2012, 14:12 »

Quote from: Mary_McConnell on December 20, 2011, 20:18

I don't know how I missed this thread, the juicy dox and additional information!!

mefree, the JLB Ranch is still required to be licensed with only 6 beds. The are on the ADP list I believe.

I bet Narconon So Cal got busted for having more patients at WArner Springs than they were licensed for, having patients residing in this place before it was licensed and they got the bright idea to adapt it with a sauna and apply for another facility license, than risk losing 6 more bodies to add to their weekly management 'statistics'. BTW, they were using this name on the internet before they applied for their dba and facility licenses. Seen that before...

They started out as scofflaws, I went up to Sunshine Summit before they were certified to open and it was already full of clients. I'm willing to run up there again if given a good reason!