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Hi JoeClark,

Advertising links are not allowed on this forum, so I have removed them from your posts.  You are welcome to participate here, but if you add commercial links again, you will be banned.
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General Discussion about Scientology / Re: Hubbard's view on identities
« Last post by ethercat on October 18, 2017, 21:24 »
Hi JoeClark,

Advertising links are not allowed on this forum, so I have removed them from your posts.  You are welcome to participate here, but if you add commercial links again, you will be banned.
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Hello Everyone,

From the Hubbard Clearing Scientologist Course 6001C06 6 January 1960, Identity, 54'13"
"Identity is the most irresponsible mechanism a thetan has. Therefore, it has to be resolved."

Interesting misinformation. We use identities to get anything done and take responsibility. So Hubbard wanted to "resolve" that which we use to take responsibility by calling it irresponsible.
Was Hubbard delusional or was he trying to create slaves?

Any Idea , Suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

I didn't find the right solution from the internet.

References:http://exscnforum.com/index.php/topic/353-hubbards-view-on-identities/


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Eliminate from the member the idea that identities are necessary and healthy, and the better for Scientology to control.

PS: FYI, As ethercat wrote in another thread in this section, "this forum is not so much an exes forum as it is a forum for people to investigate and discuss Narconon.  Exes are welcome, of course, to take part and there are some here, but I'd venture to say at least half of the active members, if not more, are "never-ins". http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=12969.msg36600#msg36600

That said, you may want to post only 'Scientology lite' stuff here.

The Ex Scientologist Message Board is the best place to get into in-depth discussions countering Scientology tech such as this.
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:w:e:l:c:o:m:e: to our forum, JoeClark!

I'm not sure what it is you are looking for either, but those links mefree gave you should help you better understand where this crazy 'barley formula' came from.

Appreciate you mentioning that reference. Its a dangerous formula to give babies. When I was a scientologist, I never gave it to my infant. Of course I never mentioned that to anyone at the church. I just ignore Hubbard's advice.
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General Discussion about Scientology / Re: Hubbard's view on identities
« Last post by mefree on October 18, 2017, 08:34 »
I think you're on the right track with delusional, Joe.  ;) Welcome to RFTTP.

Also, you might find this of interest:

Quote
MALIGNANT NARCISSISM, L. RON HUBBARD, AND SCIENTOLOGY’S POLICIES OF NARCISSISTIC RAGE
ABSTRACT
In this article, we argue that Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard, likely presented a personality disorder known as malignant narcissism, and then we establish that this disorder probably contributed to his creation of organizational policies against perceived enemies that reflected his narcissistic rage. We illustrate our argument by discussing Hubbard’s creation of an internal Scientology organization called the Guardian’s Office, which carried out a sustained and covert attack against a Scientology critic, Paulette Cooper. This attack, and the Scientology policies that Hubbard created to ‘handle’ critics like her, demonstrate how Hubbard translated narcissistic rage into organizational policies that loyal members enacted on his behalf. By using psychological insights about the leader’s personality, and then showing how that personality translated into socially deviant and sometimes criminal policies and actions by his organization, we hope to encourage criminologists to examine other groups by applying similar theories.
http://skent.ualberta.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Lane-Kent_HubbardsNarcissism_EN_December08-2008.pdf
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I'm not quite sure what your question is. If you're looking for nutritional advice for children, look here:
https://www.healthychildren.org/english/healthy-living/nutrition/pages/default.aspx

Also, scicrit did a nice series of posts on this subject, on his blog.
https://scicrit.wordpress.com/l-ron-hubbards-baby-formula/
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Narconon and related groups / Re: Suncoast Rehabilitation Center
« Last post by Mary_McConnell on October 17, 2017, 15:02 »
That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing DeathHamster.

 :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: JerroldSam!!

Appreciate you joining and looking forward to hearing more from you if you can

Do you know that facility or company? Anything you care to share?

We love any information, past or present, even personal experiences or 2nd hand info.

I have been meaning to post the following, so now seems like the right time:

From Florida Corporations http://sunbiz.org  This company is in Clearwater these days and the program is run by Narconon Lousiana owners/execs Tom & Cathy Steiner.

NARCONON SUNCOAST, INC.
Last Event
NAME CHANGE AMENDMENT
Event Date Filed
08/05/2015
Report Year   Filed Date
2015    01/14/2015
08/05/2015 -- Name Change
2008 filed:  Narconon Spring Hill

01/29/2015 -- Name Change from Suncoast Rehabilitation Center,Inc to  Narconon Spring Hill, INC.

12/22/2015 Narconon Spring Hill, Inc to Suncoast Rehabilitation Center, Inc

08/04/2015 Name change from Suncoast Rehabilitation Center, Inc
to Narconon Suncoast, Inc

Officer/Director Detail Name & Address
Title P

Steiner, Cathy
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755

Title S

Strickling, Sean
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755

Title T

Steiner, Tom
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755
Officer/Director Detail Name & Address

Title P

Steiner, Cathy
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755

Title S

Strickling, Sean
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755

Title T

Steiner, Tom
1390 SUNSET POINT ROAD
CLEARWATER, FL 33755
--------------------------------

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Narconon and related groups / Re: Suncoast Rehabilitation Center
« Last post by JerroldSam on October 11, 2017, 12:36 »
That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing DeathHamster.
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General Discussion about Scientology / Hubbard's view on identities
« Last post by JoeClark on October 11, 2017, 03:23 »
Hello Everyone,

From the Hubbard Clearing Scientologist Course 6001C06 6 January 1960, Identity, 54'13"
"Identity is the most irresponsible mechanism a thetan has. Therefore, it has to be resolved."

Interesting misinformation. We use identities to get anything done and take responsibility. So Hubbard wanted to "resolve" that which we use to take responsibility by calling it irresponsible.
Was Hubbard delusional or was he trying to create slaves?

Any Idea , Suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

I didn't find the right solution from the internet.

References:http://exscnforum.com/index.php/topic/353-hubbards-view-on-identities/

(Edited: Removed advertising link.  --ec)
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Hello Everyone,

Pediatric Dermatology, University of Miami, Miami, Florida 33125, USA. cynthiajburk@yahoo.com

Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is necessary for the formation of collagen, reducing free radicals, and aiding in iron absorption. Scurvy, a disease of dietary ascorbic acid deficiency, is uncommon today. Indeed, implementation of dietary recommendations largely eradicated infantile scurvy in the US in the early 1900s. We present a case of an otherwise healthy 2-year-old Caucasian girl who presented with refusal to walk secondary to pain in her lower extremities, generalized irritability, sleep disturbance, and malaise. The girl's parents described feeding the patient an organic diet recommended by the Church of Scientology that included a boiled mixture of organic whole milk, barley, and corn syrup devoid of fruits and vegetables. Physical examination revealed pale, bloated skin with edematous, violaceous gums and loosening of a few of her teeth. Dermatologic findings included xerosis, multiple scattered ecchymoses of the extremities, and perifollicular hemorrhage. Laboratory and radiographic evaluation confirmed the diagnosis of scurvy. The patient showed dramatic improvement after only 3 days of treatment with oral ascorbic acid and significant dietary modification. In this case report, we revisit the old diagnosis of scurvy with a modern dietary twist secondary to religious practices. This case highlights the importance of taking a detailed dietary history when evaluating diseases involving the skin."

Any Idea , Suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

I didn't find the right solution from the internet.

References:http://exscnforum.com/index.php/topic/53-hubbards-barley-water-formula-for-babies-of-stupid-parents/

(Edited: Removed advertising link.  --ec)
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