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Title: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 16, 2012, 15:31
RON CORONA JR

You can google his nam eand see his obituary and several news article related to his death. But the one thing no one seems to mention is his relation to Narconon. It's as if they never connected the dots. It is obvious to me that the two are very connected.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 16, 2012, 16:17
Like many of the other stories surronding the deaths of patients (or as they call the students) of a Narconon facility it starts with a person trying to seek help. Ron was a pharmacist. When his father passed away in January of 2011 he began his battle with alcohol. He eventually seeked help at the Narconon of Georgia. After 3 short months in their "rehabilitaion" program he was released as a student and asked to stay on as a staff member. He was first assigned the duty of Intake Specialist. My first question is how can someone that has had no counseling, or assistance from a medical professional not only be "cured" but be well enough to help others? In one of my many talks with Ron he told me about the counselors & students "hanging out" & "partying" together. They sell this place as a long-term residentail facility when in fact it is no more than a halfway house with former addicts posing as guidence counselors. They board the students along with new staff members at a nearby apartment complex. Who is watching these patients to make sure they are getting the help they need and guidence they deserve? That's right it's the other addicts who recently graduated the program. Narconon failed to give my friend Ron the help, guidence or even chance he deserved. Narconon does not help the patients ( i refuse to call them students) learn how to cope with their desires or stresses. They do not help the patients become sober for longer than one  their "detox sauna sessions."  When Ron confessed to me that he had fallen off the wagon and had started drinking again we talked about his options. I tried to convence him to go to another facility for help this time. I had already read many articles about Narconon and their connection to Scientology as well as their invlovement in deaths of former patients. He was a devoted Catholic as was his family. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. He had left his family in PA to come here and get better. He thought he had done that and was on his road to recovery but was hit with temptation and stress and without the proper tools and guidence he slipped up and needed help. When Narconon took him on as  a staff member he was not paid much but in return they did provide him with housing. the same housing he was staying in as a patient. If he left Narconon he would be out of a home and a job. I could not convence him to leave Narconon. He really thought that they had his best interest in mind. When we last spoke on August 11,2012 he said he was going to talk to one of the counselors and they would know what to do. 24 hours later his body was found by police.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 16, 2012, 16:22
Thanks for the information. Can you verify that the obituary linked below is correct? I also found a few articles.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetimes-tribune/obituary.aspx?pid=159531085
http://norcross.patch.com/articles/funeral-for-norcross-man-found-in-technology-park-set-for-saturday
http://duluth.patch.com/articles/police-id-dead-man-found-in-technology-park
http://m.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/aug/23/body-found-in-peachtree-corners-idd-cause-of/
http://www.examiner.com/article/update-man-found-dead-identified-but-cause-of-death-still-a-mystery

Technology Parkway is very close to Narconon of Georgia.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 16, 2012, 16:50
Yes, That is him! I read these articles and coudl not believe that Narconon was never metioned. He was a student at Narconon, A staff member of Narconon, a resident of Narconon and was found dead practically across the street from Narconon. I am so upset that this case seemd to be pretty cut and dry to the police. I actually found out about his death this morning on teh Channel 2 News. I went straight to my computer to get more information about it and have spent most of my work day trying to find a way to get someone to listen and look into it. Since i am not  a family member (nor do I know his family) i don't know what rights i have. Something has to be done about these facilities.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 16, 2012, 16:56
Yes, That is him! I read these articles and coudl not believe that Narconon was never metioned. He was a student at Narconon, A staff member of Narconon, a resident of Narconon and was found dead practically across the street from Narconon. I am so upset that this case seemd to be pretty cut and dry to the police. I actually found out about his death this morning on teh Channel 2 News. I went straight to my computer to get more information about it and have spent most of my work day trying to find a way to get someone to listen and look into it. Since i am not  a family member (nor do I know his family) i don't know what rights i have. Something has to be done about these facilities.

I didn't know about the news. Was that WSB radio or TV?

Story from AJC states death was blamed on cocaine use.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/mans-death-at-office-park-blamed-on-cocaine-use/nSdhs/

He sounds hopeful on his facebook page.
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I'm writing a new chapter in my life. I'm in a better place now than I've ever been before (and that's saying a lot). I'm confident and sure of myself again and most of all I believe in myself like never before. In everything I do I choose the right choice or better choice and it keeps me happy.
https://www.facebook.com/ron.coronajr?fref=ts
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/29842_1461239010277_5871059_n.jpg)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: snippy on October 16, 2012, 19:17
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I could not convince him to leave Narconon. He really thought that they had his best interest in mind. When we last spoke on August 11,2012 he said he was going to talk to one of the counselors and they would know what to do. 24 hours later his body was found by police.

Please contact the Gwinnett County police and share what you know. They found him in a "pool of blood" but attribute his death to cocaine use?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 16, 2012, 19:35
They found him in a "pool of blood" but attribute his death to cocaine use?

He was found with no identification on his body and muddy, indicating he may have been in the lake behind the office park. The medical examiner did not think his injuries were sufficient to have caused his death.

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Ritter said the medical examiner found no fatal injuries, just cuts and bruises to his arms and legs. The man's body was also muddy indicating he may have been in the lake behind the office building before he died.
http://peachtreecorners.patch.com/articles/still-no-id-of-man-s-body-found-in-peachtree-corners-technology-park
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: loriisbored on October 16, 2012, 19:40
iknowthetruth, i was at narcanon with ron at the first of this year. i definately agree that something is not right about this. i happened to be looking for people i went there with when i found his obituary online. i knew immediately something wasnt right about it. please do whatever you can to find out what happened, your not the only one on here who would love to at least see justice for ron.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: snippy on October 16, 2012, 19:46
---------Norcross-patch----16 Aug 2012 ----------------------------------------------------

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"During the initial investigation, the homicide unit was called in to investigate after officers discovered several head injuries on the body of the white male."

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...anyone with information on the man's death should call detectives at 770-513-5300.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: who me? on October 16, 2012, 20:00
When Narconon took him on as  a staff member he was not paid much but in return they did provide him with housing. the same housing he was staying in as a patient. If he left Narconon he would be out of a home and a job. I could not convence him to leave Narconon. He really thought that they had his best interest in mind. When we last spoke on August 11,2012 he said he was going to talk to one of the counselors and they would know what to do. 24 hours later his body was found by police.

Sorry you lost a friend. :'(
Please contact the Gwinnett County police and share what you know. Ask if they talked to people at Narconon about Ron and if they knew he was employed and lived there. Did the NN staff notice him missing and report him missing to the police, and that was how he was identified? Or did they keep silent and never talked to the police? Someone at NN had to know what was going on with Ron, and was probably with him at the time he died. They will hide anything they know to distance NN from Ron, but maybe the questions will get the police looking a bit more (but they may just pass it off).
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: who me? on October 16, 2012, 20:01
iknowthetruth, i was at narcanon with ron at the first of this year. i definately agree that something is not right about this. i happened to be looking for people i went there with when i found his obituary online. i knew immediately something wasnt right about it. please do whatever you can to find out what happened, your not the only one on here who would love to at least see justice for ron.
loriisbored,
Do you have any contact with others at NN that might have information?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on October 16, 2012, 20:58
IKnowThe Truth, I am sorry you had to find out about your friend's death on the news.  Did Ron say anything to you about using other drugs?

I have this from Pete Combs (of WSB Radio):

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I don't have the report, only an email from Chief Medical Examiner Ted Bailey:

Pete,
 
You called about the death of Ronald Joseph Corona, Jr., found outside a business at 25 Technology Parkway South in Norcross on August 13, 2012.  His cause of death is: toxic effects of acute  cocaine use.   
Ted
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: loriisbored on October 16, 2012, 23:55
iknowthetruth, i was at narcanon with ron at the first of this year. i definately agree that something is not right about this. i happened to be looking for people i went there with when i found his obituary online. i knew immediately something wasnt right about it. please do whatever you can to find out what happened, your not the only one on here who would love to at least see justice for ron.
loriisbored,
Do you have any contact with others at NN that might have information?

i have added a few people on facebook, and the ones that may know still work there. i get the feeling if i ask about ron i will get a standard blow off...i have wanted to ask but i havent seen these folks in months...i will try to see what they know though
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: snippy on October 17, 2012, 07:53
I can't help but to be still suspicious; the timing of his death is the day he went to Narconon to discuss leaving, he was found with out ID, 0.8 miles from Narconon, he was muddy from the lake (?), and he had non-fatal head injuries.  (If these were burn marks like the mysterious marks on the german girl's head ...) He also has logged how many hours in that sauna, which would have to stress his brain's vascular system on top of what it seems cocaine does to it. Did they put him in the introspection rundown or something. Maybe it was just his day to go.  Maybe not.

Intracerebral haemorrhage in young adults: the emerging importance of drug misuse
BMJ 2000; 320 doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmj.320.7245.1322 (Published 13 May 2000)
[ BMJ 2000;320:1322.1 ]


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In the past seven months we have treated 13 patients who had sustained intracerebral haemorrhage and had misused one or more of these illegal substances. Ten of the patients were well enough to undergo cerebral angiography. We were surprised to find intracranial aneurysm in six and arteriovenous malformations in three. In only one patient was the angiogram normal. These nine patients subsequently underwent surgery or interventional radiological treatment for these abnormalities. The average age of the 13 patients was 31 years (range 19-43 years).
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on October 17, 2012, 11:02
 My sincere condolences to the Corona family.

 I hope our state DCH is proud of its continued licensing of NarCONon of Georgia, Pur-O-Cleanse and the NarCONon Discovery Course housing units within the Berkley Landing apartment complex in Duluth GA.

 I wonder if DCH Commissioner David A. Cook was aware of this tragic event while being interviewed by the local press. Hell, I wonder why anyone within the DCH,s Department of Healthcare facility regulations even has a job!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 16:55
Medical Examiner: Man found dead in office park died from cocaine use - Gwinnett Daily Post (http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/oct/16/official-cocaine-cause-in-death-of-man-found-in/?news)
By Josh Green
Gwinnett Daily Post
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PEACHTREE CORNERS -- Toxicology tests show a 39-year-old man whose body was found two months ago in a Peachtree Corners office park died of cocaine use, the Gwinnett County Medical Examiner's Office said Tuesday.

Ronald Corona, a former pharmacist turned drug counselor, was found by a cleaning company employee about 2:30 a.m. on Aug. 13 behind a business at 25 Technology Parkway.

The employee reported that Corona lay face down in a pool of blood. Gwinnett police initially called his death suspicious, but an autopsy showed that Corona did not die from any sort of trauma.

Ted Bailey, chief forensic investigator, said Tuesday the "toxic effects" of cocaine killed Corona. Police said Corona had moved to Georgia from Pennsylvania in November and that his mother had reported him missing prior to his death.

Corona was carrying no identification, and police resorted to releasing photographs of his tattoos to learn his name.

According to an obituary published Aug. 30 in the Scranton Times, Corona graduated magna cum laude from Boston's Northeastern University in 1997. He landed a job as pharmacist in Philadelphia before moving to the Gwinnett area last year, where he worked as a counselor at Narconon of Georgia.

An inquiry with that company was not immediately returned Tuesday.
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/oct/16/official-cocaine-cause-in-death-of-man-found-in/?news
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: BigBeard on October 17, 2012, 17:27
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An inquiry with that company was not immediately returned Tuesday.

And so the "Ron who?" from NN GA starts. Any bets on how long it takes them to trot out the "Disgruntled employee who left ages ago" line??

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 18:09
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An inquiry with that company was not immediately returned Tuesday.

And so the "Ron who?" from NN GA starts. Any bets on how long it takes them to trot out the "Disgruntled employee who left ages ago" line??

According to a former patient who knew him, he was well-liked at Narconon. 

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I Knew that guy.Ron (the one who died)was like their star freakin student..He graduated and went on staff.He DID relapse that is a fact.They caught him drinking alcohol at the center.He also called me asking to get him drugs (I had already graduates)a couple weeks before he died...Anyways I thought it was weird how he died he wasnt from Georgia.I know he hhad blunt trauma to the head and his doc was crack...It really shook The center up when Ron died like I said he was star student/staff...Those Scienos loved Him.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: BigBeard on October 17, 2012, 18:28
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According to a former patient who knew him, he was well-liked at Narconon.

I don't doubt it. I'm talking about what I suspect the "official", if they ever get around to making one, response from NN GA will be.

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 18:32
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According to a former patient who knew him, he was well-liked at Narconon.

I don't doubt it. I'm talking about what I suspect the "official", if they ever get around to making one, response from NN GA will be.

Well, sure. Their true feelings shouldn't get in the way of an "official" story. Somehow, I don't think there will be a formal response, unless something else comes out in the investigation or media. It's probably a closed case after the medical examiner's report.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: snippy on October 17, 2012, 18:51
I would like to know how he ended up in this GA outpatient rehab when he was from Pennsylvania. Was there an out of state DUI involved?  Like Patrick, he went in for alcohol rehab and died from an overdose of a much "harder" drug. Investigators need to at least ask Mary Reiser a few tough questions.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 18:57
I would like to know how he ended up in this GA outpatient rehab when he was from Pennsylvania. Was there an out of state DUI involved?  Like Patrick, he went in for alcohol rehab and died from an overdose of a much "harder" drug. Investigators need to at least ask Mary Reiser a few tough questions.

Narconon routinely moves their clients far enough from home that it's not terribly convenient for family or friends to check on them. According to one former patient, his drug of choice was cocaine. I don't have any other verification, atm.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 22:46
I asked the former Narconon of Georgia patient how Narconon dealt with Ronald Corona after his relapse. This is his response:
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They moved him from the berkely landing housing to 'the hotel'which is somewhere near the center.At some other point they took his keys or his car.When people move to the hotel you dont here to much about them anymore.Ron was a superrvisor.He started having more and more problems when he became staff.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 17, 2012, 23:29
 Although someone's doc might be informational let's not lose sight of what's really going on here. These people are looking for help and asking for help. Narconon promises them that help. They sell a grand idea to their families and loved ones and then collect the cash ( $15,000 - $30,000 ). How do they plan to "cure" these people? They send them to the sauna to sweat it out and fill them full of Niacin. It's a vitamin right, so it can't be bad for you can it? This cardiologist says otherwise
 http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin-overdose/AN01644
 Who is administering these drugs and checks on the patients afterwards? The side effects of high dosages can be dangerous not to mention very stressful on the body of an addict going through withdrawals.

 Another Narcanon facility was closed because of these practices.

"In fact, the Narconon Trois-Rivieres Scientology rehab was shut down by government officials because of dangers to the health and safety of patients. The health agency noted that several patients had been sent to hospital and that the treatments provided at the center were placing patient health at risk. At that time, there had been patient deaths inside Narconon Arrowhead, and the Quebec authorities acted to prevent this from happening in Canada by forcing the rehab to close and immediately remove all patients."
http://www.examiner.com/article/big-pharma-blamed-for-troubles-of-scientology-s-narconon-rehabs

I only wished authorities cared enough about the  other people under going these crackpot treatments to close them all down. There has been death after death throughout the Narconon facilities. How many is it going to take before they see what is really going on here.??? These patients are given no professional counseling, have been denied medical attention in some cases and then housed together to babysit each other and left to their own demise. How are they still licensed and open to practice anything?

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 17, 2012, 23:41
Although someone's doc might be informational let's not lose sight of what's really going on here. These people are looking for help and asking for help. Narconon promises them that help. They sell a grand idea to their families and loved ones and then collect the cash ( $15,000 - $30,000 ). How do they plan to "cure" these people? They send them to the sauna to sweat it out and fill them full of Niacin. It's a vitamin right, so it can't be bad for you can it? This cardiologist says otherwise
 http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/niacin-overdose/AN01644

Absolutely! Regardless of his drug of choice, he didn't get real treatment at Narconon.

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Who is administering these drugs and checks on the patients afterwards? The side effects of high dosages can be dangerous not to mention very stressful on the body of an addict going through withdrawals.

 Another Narcanon facility was closed because of these practices.

"In fact, the Narconon Trois-Rivieres Scientology rehab was shut down by government officials because of dangers to the health and safety of patients. The health agency noted that several patients had been sent to hospital and that the treatments provided at the center were placing patient health at risk. At that time, there had been patient deaths inside Narconon Arrowhead, and the Quebec authorities acted to prevent this from happening in Canada by forcing the rehab to close and immediately remove all patients."
http://www.examiner.com/article/big-pharma-blamed-for-troubles-of-scientology-s-narconon-rehabs

I only wished authorities cared enough about the  other people under going these crackpot treatments to close them all down. There has been death after death throughout the Narconon facilities. How many is it going to take before they see what is really going on here.??? These patients are given no professional counseling, have been denied medical attention in some cases and then housed together to babysit each other and left to their own demise. How are they still licensed and open to practice anything?

You're singing to the choir, here. Despite numerous complaints and inquiries, state agencies have failed to act in Georgia. Despite the deaths in Oklahoma, Narconon Arrowhead is still open. It is incomprehensible and leads one to believe that those suffering from addiction, just don't rate!

Thanks for your participation on the forum, IKTT. Please keep posting.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 18, 2012, 10:24
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You're singing to the choir, here. Despite numerous complaints and inquiries, state agencies have failed to act in Georgia. Despite the deaths in Oklahoma, Narconon Arrowhead is still open. It is incomprehensible and leads one to believe that those suffering from addiction, just don't rate!

Or Narconon's (along with the whole church of Scientology) pockets are so deep from all the cash they have collected they can pay officials off! I cannot comprehend any other reason why a person would choose to look the other way or write it off as shotty paperwork.  They should not be allowed to operate as any kind of rehab in or out patient. Narconon's lies are killing people and our government is letting them get away with it!!!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on October 18, 2012, 12:15
Narconon's lies are killing people and our government is letting them get away with it!!!

 Our state government,more specifically the DCH are a major part of the problem. State DCH officials imho do not have the tools needed to aid our states legislators in making policies that would stop these sort of harmful businesses practices. Then one must take into account who these state legislators are and their reasoning how and why they vote on a particular agenda.

 
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 18, 2012, 13:00
In May of 2012 Narconon of Georgia had an inspection and failed miserably on every account of providing evidence that they are operating a legitimate facility. Here is the link to the inspection report.
http://167.193.144.170:7001/ORSINV/PDFS_DRUGABUSE/DRUG002034TIR411.pdf

When questioned about these deficiencies the Executive Director and the Case Supervisor replied with "but we didn't know we needed that". Really?? Narconon has been running this facility for how many years and you are telling me that a person in these high ranked positions has no idea what is required of them? The case studies were pulled for 9 patients. In the beginning of the report it say there were 18 patients enrolled in the program at that time so 50% of the patients files were reviewed and 100% of those failed on EVERY requirement. And they are still licenced and open for business?? It also states in this inspection that it is required that   
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In addition to medical management services, the program shall provide the client counseling and support by staff
who are determined qualified by training, education, experience, and who are licensed/certified if required by state
practice acts to provide such services. Such services shall be provided to clients as soon as it is determined that
they can benefit from such services but no later than within three work days of admission.

Were any of the case studies ( or ANY NN patient) given counseling by a licensed and train professional? Of course not. How could they be when their "counselors" are fresh out of rehab themselves. It seems to me that it is very blatantly obvious that these people are just running a big scheme to collect on the unfortunate. The only answers they can seem to provide is that a patient's/staff's death is their own fault and a big shoulder shrug and "we didn't know that" when it comes to questions about state regulated requirements.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on October 18, 2012, 14:10
This pretty obviously is yet another horrible death directly related to Narconon.

My two cents:

Any individual with information - including IKnowTheTruth, loriisbored, mefree's "former patient" acquantance, or anyone else - should call the Gwinnett Police at 770.513.5210
or go to their Headquarters at 770 Hi Hope Rd, Lawrenceville, GA 30044 and request the opportunity to speak to the detective handling the investigation of Ronald Corona's death. 

Here is the thing: Police and District Attorneys of the world need actionable information from living, breathing witnesses in order to make cases.

While you are at it, please also suggest that Commissioner David Cooke's office at DCH should be contacted since he and the healthcare division inspectors are supposedly actively involved in conducting an investigation.  Either that or you yourselves contact DCH directly: 404-656-4507
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: loriisbored on October 18, 2012, 16:36
In May of 2012 Narconon of Georgia had an inspection and failed miserably on every account of providing evidence that they are operating a legitimate facility. Here is the link to the inspection report.
http://167.193.144.170:7001/ORSINV/PDFS_DRUGABUSE/DRUG002034TIR411.pdf

When questioned about these deficiencies the Executive Director and the Case Supervisor replied with "but we didn't know we needed that". Really?? Narconon has been running this facility for how many years and you are telling me that a person in these high ranked positions has no idea what is required of them? The case studies were pulled for 9 patients. In the beginning of the report it say there were 18 patients enrolled in the program at that time so 50% of the patients files were reviewed and 100% of those failed on EVERY requirement. And they are still licenced and open for business?? It also states in this inspection that it is required that   
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In addition to medical management services, the program shall provide the client counseling and support by staff
who are determined qualified by training, education, experience, and who are licensed/certified if required by state
practice acts to provide such services. Such services shall be provided to clients as soon as it is determined that
they can benefit from such services but no later than within three work days of admission.

Were any of the case studies ( or ANY NN patient) given counseling by a licensed and train professional? Of course not. How could they be when their "counselors" are fresh out of rehab themselves. It seems to me that it is very blatantly obvious that these people are just running a big scheme to collect on the unfortunate. The only answers they can seem to provide is that a patient's/staff's death is their own fault and a big shoulder shrug and "we didn't know that" when it comes to questions about state regulated requirements.

18 patients in the program? really? that is the biggest piece of crap! there may be just 18 patients in one certain area (most likely ethics lol). but i know for a fact in april they were pushing 100, and growing...more and more new people coming in each week.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 18, 2012, 16:42
This pretty obviously is yet another horrible death directly related to Narconon.

My two cents:

Any individual with information - including IKnowTheTruth, loriisbored, mefree's "former patient" acquantance, or anyone else - should call the Gwinnett Police at 770.513.5210
or go to their Headquarters at 770 Hi Hope Rd, Lawrenceville, GA 30044 and request the opportunity to speak to the detective handling the investigation of Ronald Corona's death. 

Here is the thing: Police and District Attorneys of the world need actionable information from living, breathing witnesses in order to make cases.

While you are at it, please also suggest that Commissioner David Cooke's office at DCH should be contacted since he and the healthcare division inspectors are supposedly actively involved in conducting an investigation.  Either that or you yourselves contact DCH directly: 404-656-4507

In process.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on October 18, 2012, 18:43
Also:  I should have added that time is in all probability of the essence.  Do it immediately or as soon as possible, if ever. 

The Medical Examiner has just announced the toxicology findings and the final opinion as to cause of death.  This means if the police don't already have solid leads or figured out a case yet, they need all witnesses who might have valuable information to come forward NOW, before the investigation is closed.

Although, presumably, the primary investigation would have initially been geared towards things like murder or uncovering a drug trafficking operation, one might have reason to think other potential crimes like manslaughter, conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement, lying to law enforcement, or whatever else along such lines might still be in realm of legitimate possibilities.

But not for long.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on October 18, 2012, 18:57

The Medical Examiner has just announced the toxicology findings and the final opinion as to cause of death. 

 Could you please link us to where you gained this information? Thanks.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 18, 2012, 19:05
I have another report from the "former patient". He has some interesting things to say about Darrell and Dan Hall at Discovery Course (housing for Narconon of GA)

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YOU guys may or may not know this but housing is now run by darrel and dan hall (called discovery course) not the same company as the desmond case.Darrell freakin hall is an adderall munching paranoid freak.dudes nuts
   
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on October 18, 2012, 23:15
ST, it is stated in the Gwinnett Daily article linked in reply 15 on p.1 of this thread.

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Toxicology tests show a 39-year-old man whose body was found two months ago in a Peachtree Corners office park died of cocaine use, the Gwinnett County Medical Examiner's Office said Tuesday.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on October 19, 2012, 15:59
I asked the former Narconon of Georgia patient how Narconon dealt with Ronald Corona after his relapse. This is his response:
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They moved him from the berkely landing housing to 'the hotel'which is somewhere near the center.At some other point they took his keys or his car.When people move to the hotel you dont here to much about them anymore.Ron was a superrvisor.He started having more and more problems when he became staff.

I would like to know more about what happened to his car.  Where was the car the night Ron was found?  Did he drive to Technology Park the night (or day; I'm just assuming it was night) he died?  Has the car been sent back to his parents now?  I'm not sure why these questions seem so pressing to me... except that maybe the answers might hold some clue to what happened.

People don't usually walk to Technology Park if they have another way to get there. 

Overhead view of 25 Technology Parkway (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=25+Technology+Parkway+South,+Norcross,+GA&hl=en&ll=33.959015,-84.218069&spn=0.005304,0.009345&sll=32.678125,-83.178297&sspn=5.473329,9.569092&oq=25+Tech&t=h&hnear=25+Technology+Pkwy+S,+Norcross,+Gwinnett,+Georgia+30092&z=17)

Map of pertinent locations (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2010+Summerchase+Drive,+Duluth,+GA&daddr=guest+inn+to:25+Technology+Parkway+South,+Norcross,+GA+to:33.966097,-84.2180023+to:33.96549,-84.2233+to:33.96549,-84.2233+to:33.9646692,-84.2242364+to:GA-141+S%2FPeachtree+Pkwy&hl=en&ll=33.971196,-84.175444&spn=0.050966,0.086946&sll=33.974613,-84.198103&sspn=0.050964,0.086946&geocode=FTepBgIdiaT7-ilVbwq6PaL1iDF2X3cccEY08g%3BFWc1BgId8w77-iGAEjzztr0uDSkVkoJ5EqH1iDGAEjzztr0uDQ%3BFbArBgIdjfT6-imTVgCGEKH1iDHJMVFbDpFB9A%3BFRFIBgIdbu_6-iltNvGPBaH1iDE3cUgdkJRAZw%3BFbJFBgIdvNr6-inzOQubA6H1iDGvVWIDJS5SoQ%3BFbJFBgIdvNr6-inzOQubA6H1iDGvVWIDJS5SoQ%3BFX1CBgIdFNf6-ikz10EfA6H1iDFgjXbWgFuDjw%3BFZ1BBgIdatb6-g&oq=25+tech&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=7&sz=14&via=3,4,5,6&z=14):
(http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RonCorona-map.png)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on October 20, 2012, 10:43
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You're singing to the choir, here. Despite numerous complaints and inquiries, state agencies have failed to act in Georgia. Despite the deaths in Oklahoma, Narconon Arrowhead is still open. It is incomprehensible and leads one to believe that those suffering from addiction, just don't rate!

Or Narconon's (along with the whole church of Scientology) pockets are so deep from all the cash they have collected they can pay officials off! I cannot comprehend any other reason why a person would choose to look the other way or write it off as shotty paperwork.  They should not be allowed to operate as any kind of rehab in or out patient. Narconon's lies are killing people and our government is letting them get away with it!!!

IKnowThe Truth, I understand your angst.  It's something I feel on an almost daily basis.  If you have not already read it, see Social Transparency's saga of trying to alert the Georgia Department of Community Health, beginning in April and continuing to this day:
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10057.0.html

I have to wonder if your statement above is the truth.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: wynot on October 20, 2012, 11:03
"How many deaths will it take 'til he knows / that too many people have died?"

The answer may be different for different for different people, but I think this is enough now. I sure hope WSB and the AJC have heard. ;)

And somebody should tell tortega too, I guess...

'til later;
wynot
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Watcher on October 20, 2012, 12:47
I use to work in technology park 15 years ago, 1 Technology Park to be exact, back then it was a very nice area we would walk the area on nice days during our lunch hour.  The tree lined streets and the perfectly manicured flower gardens were the perfect setting for a spring time walk.  However in recent years the area is not so nice, the park still tries to keep the manicured flower beds and Bradford pear trees have split and been replaced in some parts, but the drug activity in the area makes it such that nobody in their right mind would go out for an evening walk in the area. I have relatives that still live in the area just because they can't afford to move out their house is worth much less than they paid for it.  So my question is why in the world would NNGas put someone in a living facility right in the middle of a drug infested area with little to no supervision.  Oh that's right addiction is NOT a disease and is curable so no need to worry about influences and the ease of the ability to obtain drugs. Let me end by saying, UGH!!!!!   
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Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 20, 2012, 16:00
I use to work in technology park 15 years ago, 1 Technology Park to be exact, back then it was a very nice area we would walk the area on nice days during our lunch hour.  The tree lined streets and the perfectly manicured flower gardens were the perfect setting for a spring time walk.  However in recent years the area is not so nice, the park still tries to keep the manicured flower beds and Bradford pear trees have split and been replaced in some parts, but the drug activity in the area makes it such that nobody in their right mind would go out for an evening walk in the area. I have relatives that still live in the area just because they can't afford to move out their house is worth much less than they paid for it.  So my question is why in the world would NNGas put someone in a living facility right in the middle of a drug infested area with little to no supervision.  Oh that's right addiction is NOT a disease and is curable so no need to worry about influences and the ease of the ability to obtain drugs. Let me end by saying, UGH!!!!!   
 8-O)--|#|

Crime mapping for 5688 Peachtree Parkway (NN of GA) within a 2 mile radius, from 1/1/2012 to present, reveals 170 crimes.
http://www.crimemapping.com/map.aspx?aid=237508c7-ead1-4de4-b7b2-b627abfee7fc

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Watcher on October 20, 2012, 19:29
I got 487 from 1/1/12 to current. Maybe I'm doing something wrong lol.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 20, 2012, 19:37
I got 487 from 1/1/12 to current. Maybe I'm doing something wrong lol.

Did you use 5688 Peachtree Parkway, Norcross, GA 30092 or Technology Park?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Watcher on October 20, 2012, 19:45
I used 5688 Peachtree Pkwy., Norcross.  But also it doesn't go all the way back to January, furthest it will go back is April 23.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: kit1113kat on October 22, 2012, 14:09
I Know The Truth - I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.

I work at the building where Ron's body was found.  In fact, I cleaned up the blood.  There was not enough that he could have "bled out" so I have been watching for the toxicology results.  The detective told me that he the cuts and injuries he had to his head were consistent with running through the woods.  I certainly did not expect the toxicology report to find cocaine, but rather bath salts or some other halucinogen. 

He had tried, in two places, to dig under the foundation of the building, had left muddy imprints on the glass doors of one of the suites, as well as the glass windows and door where he was ultimately found.  If he was alone, it appeared he was having a psychotic break which certainly seems at odds with the individual that has been described.  Had Ron been associated with Scientology prior to his stint in Narconon?  How did he end up at Narconon instead of AA?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: IKnowThe Truth on October 22, 2012, 14:48
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I would like to know more about what happened to his car.  Where was the car the night Ron was found?  Did he drive to Technology Park the night (or day; I'm just assuming it was night) he died?  Has the car been sent back to his parents now?  I'm not sure why these questions seem so pressing to me... except that maybe the answers might hold some clue to what happened.


Good question! Where is his car? or wallet or phone for that matter? I am sure if they were returned to authorities or his family it was not before they were carefully screened for any damaging evidence against Narconon. And on that note i would like to know why he was creamated. He was a Catholic as was his family. All the Catholics that i know are strongly opposed to the idea of cremation. I wonder if this was his mother's decision and if she had a conversation with anyone at Narconon prior to having his body/remains shipped back home. It woudl be very crafty of them to destroy all evidence...just saying!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Companywitness on October 22, 2012, 15:00
I also work at the building where his body was found and Kit Kat is right. He did try to dig on the left side of the building. There is also a vacant office space beside ours that was covered with dirt and mud. It looked like he had tried to get into the office. His body was found on the other side of the building next to another downstairs entrance beside the AC unit. I saw the bloody sidewalk..and yes..there was blood there..there was not enough for it to qualify as a "pool" of blood. They also said he was found with wet clothes and no shoes. I too wasn't expecting cocaine..more like bath salts.
I also wonder how he got here...our office isn't the easiest to get to without a car.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on October 22, 2012, 18:17
I Know The Truth - I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.

I work at the building where Ron's body was found.  In fact, I cleaned up the blood.  There was not enough that he could have "bled out" so I have been watching for the toxicology results.  The detective told me that he the cuts and injuries he had to his head were consistent with running through the woods.  I certainly did not expect the toxicology report to find cocaine, but rather bath salts or some other halucinogen. 

He had tried, in two places, to dig under the foundation of the building, had left muddy imprints on the glass doors of one of the suites, as well as the glass windows and door where he was ultimately found.  If he was alone, it appeared he was having a psychotic break which certainly seems at odds with the individual that has been described.  Had Ron been associated with Scientology prior to his stint in Narconon?  How did he end up at Narconon instead of AA?

I also work at the building where his body was found and Kit Kat is right. He did try to dig on the left side of the building. There is also a vacant office space beside ours that was covered with dirt and mud. It looked like he had tried to get into the office. His body was found on the other side of the building next to another downstairs entrance beside the AC unit. I saw the bloody sidewalk..and yes..there was blood there..there was not enough for it to qualify as a "pool" of blood. They also said he was found with wet clothes and no shoes. I too wasn't expecting cocaine..more like bath salts.
I also wonder how he got here...our office isn't the easiest to get to without a car.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend.

Welcome kit1113kat and Companywitness, and thank you for telling us what you know.  I'm sure that must have been a gruesome experience for you both, and must have made for a very disturbing day at work that Monday.

It is very odd that he tried to dig under the building, and as you say, sounds psychotic.  As far as we know, Ron had not been associated with scientology prior to Narconon.  In fact, he had just posted a link to a site called godfruits.com on his Facebook in July, so that gives me every reason to believe he was a Christian/Catholic as IKnowThe Truth mentioned.

I wonder if he was trying to get away from someone.  This is very peculiar.  And eerie.

Narconon offers long-term "residential" treatment in a "monitored" environment, which AA and NA do not.  I have to put "residential" in quotes because Narconon is not licensed by the state for residential treatment, although they present the program that way to potential clients.  I put "monitored" in quotes because any monitoring they do certainly leaves a lot to be desired.  They are more likely to monitor what the clients are telling people about Narconon that they talk to on the phone than to monitor behavior, comings and goings, and drug or alcohol use by clients.  This type of rehab is often required by drug courts, well, this type meaning what the legitimate residential/inpatient rehabs offer (not what this scam called Narconon offers), but I don't know if Ron was court-ordered into Narconon or not.  But that might be one reason someone might choose it over AA or NA.  Unfortunately, with Narconon, it's all about getting the money, and possible converts to scientology, not about helping people with substance abuse problems.

I know it sounds unbelievable that something like Narconon could be allowed by the state licensing agency to continue, and that anyone would actually run a rehab that way, but it's the truth.  We have a lot of documents that have been filed in another wrongful death case (Patrick Desmond (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,8408.msg26302.html#msg26302)) against Narconon of Georgia that proves what I say above.

I assume the detective is aware of the details you gave here, but if not, please contact the Gwinnett police about them.  Anyone with any details, or first hand knowledge of what goes on at Narconon, should contact them ASAP.  This case needs more investigation.

What a horrible way to die.   :.{....

RIP, Ron.   (+):-)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 22, 2012, 18:20
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I wonder if he was trying to get away from someone.  This is very peculiar.  And eerie.

I wondered the same. Very odd.

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Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on October 22, 2012, 18:56
I also work at the building where his body was found and Kit Kat is right. He did try to dig on the left side of the building. There is also a vacant office space beside ours that was covered with dirt and mud. It looked like he had tried to get into the office. His body was found on the other side of the building next to another downstairs entrance beside the AC unit. I saw the bloody sidewalk..and yes..there was blood there..there was not enough for it to qualify as a "pool" of blood. They also said he was found with wet clothes and no shoes. I too wasn't expecting cocaine..more like bath salts.
I also wonder how he got here...our office isn't the easiest to get to without a car.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend.
Thank you for sharing. Question if I may, how did you find this website (RFTTP)?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on October 22, 2012, 19:20
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I wonder if he was trying to get away from someone.  This is very peculiar.  And eerie.

I would image the only thing this poor guy was trying to get away from was his own personal demons. Think about this for a moment. Here you have a college educated man with a substance abuse problem. Now couple that with a stint @ NarCONon of Georgia. That in of itself could lead to a relapse.

Add to the mix NarCONon of Georgia,s "If you relapse we punish you with a time out in a hotel unsupervised" add some alcohol and cocaine and I can very easily see how this poor guy more than likely had a chemically induced psychotic break. Manic behavior and "Go fast" type drugs go hand in hand. The deceased parties digging under a building is not out of the realm of possibility.

 I,ve seen much weirder behavior up close and personal while doing a documentary which involved riding in a Grady Hospital ambulance on multiple friday and saturday nights. Heck, I did another documentary on some meth heads which actually and I kid you not, decided it would be cool to DIG a pond in a fellow tweakers front yard @ 2:00 A.M with a BOBCAT front end loader in a subdivision.

what is even weirder is the fact I was up at that hour filming crazy people. ooo:/

 
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on October 22, 2012, 20:16
I also work at the building where his body was found and Kit Kat is right. He did try to dig on the left side of the building. There is also a vacant office space beside ours that was covered with dirt and mud. It looked like he had tried to get into the office. His body was found on the other side of the building next to another downstairs entrance beside the AC unit. I saw the bloody sidewalk..and yes..there was blood there..there was not enough for it to qualify as a "pool" of blood. They also said he was found with wet clothes and no shoes. I too wasn't expecting cocaine..more like bath salts.
I also wonder how he got here...our office isn't the easiest to get to without a car.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend.

I Know The Truth - I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.

I work at the building where Ron's body was found.  In fact, I cleaned up the blood.  There was not enough that he could have "bled out" so I have been watching for the toxicology results.  The detective told me that he the cuts and injuries he had to his head were consistent with running through the woods.  I certainly did not expect the toxicology report to find cocaine, but rather bath salts or some other halucinogen. 

He had tried, in two places, to dig under the foundation of the building, had left muddy imprints on the glass doors of one of the suites, as well as the glass windows and door where he was ultimately found.  If he was alone, it appeared he was having a psychotic break which certainly seems at odds with the individual that has been described.  Had Ron been associated with Scientology prior to his stint in Narconon?  How did he end up at Narconon instead of AA?

Thank you both so much for taking the time to register and comment on this, to help bring some facts to the table on what was going on.

Please know that more information will be forthcoming very soon about Ron's death and situation with Narconon. The media is onto the matter. It's just a matter of time in gathering documentation, facts and such. Your input here is much appreciated. It sounds like Ron was in some kind of distress and your suggestion that maybe bath salts ( or some kind of drug that would cause bizarre behavior) were involved seems plausible but we need to wait for the full autopsy report to know for sure what was in his system. Why he used a toxic amount of cocaine ( not his drug of choice to begin with) and how he got there and why he was there are important questions I hope will be answered soon. His involvement in Scientology is unlikely but it's being looked into as well.

Again, thanks for visiting and commenting on this. Hope to hear more fro you all as information comes to light.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Companywitness on October 23, 2012, 15:30
A coworker of mine found this site. Im really not sure how he found it.

I have heard that the media is getting involved with this. The AJC (atlanta journal constitution) is supposed to be doing a big piece on Ron and Narconon. I will try to post a link to the article when I find it.
The only other thing I know about the case is that at first it was treated as a homocide. They even hired a police officer to sit in our parking lot for a week after Ron was found. I know the media released pics of his tattoos because nobody could identify his body. Im not sure how they were finally able to determine it was him.

If you have any other questions...feel free to ask
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 23, 2012, 18:30
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on October 28, 2012, 17:26
A coworker of mine found this site. Im really not sure how he found it.

I have heard that the media is getting involved with this. The AJC (atlanta journal constitution) is supposed to be doing a big piece on Ron and Narconon. I will try to post a link to the article when I find it.
The only other thing I know about the case is that at first it was treated as a homocide. They even hired a police officer to sit in our parking lot for a week after Ron was found. I know the media released pics of his tattoos because nobody could identify his body. Im not sure how they were finally able to determine it was him.

If you have any other questions...feel free to ask

Thanks so much.

More info is forthcoming as I mentioned. Just not sure when.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: NoMoreScam on October 31, 2012, 14:37
[quote  I know the media released pics of his tattoos because nobody could identify his body. [/quote]

Not sure if I got this right, but I thought Ron lived and worked at the facility.... so why do the police need to resort to such measures to ID him.
Why hadn't Narconon reported him missing?

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Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Cigul on October 31, 2012, 15:25
This is total speculation, but if Ron had been cut lose e.g. declared an "SP" for whatever reason, suspended for drug use (which seems unlikely at THAT den of iniquity, but I digress), then anyone still at the facility whether staff or student would be out of contact with him. If he had been declared an SP, staff and students would have been forbidden to have contact with him. If that happened, and again I am speculating, the shady bastards would have neither known nor cared that he was missing.
Welcome NoMoreScam!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: BigBeard on October 31, 2012, 16:05
Or they were simply playing to "Ron who?" game to try and stay out of yet another PR flap. It wouldn't be the first time.

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on October 31, 2012, 17:35

Not sure if I got this right, but I thought Ron lived and worked at the facility.... so why do the police need to resort to such measures to ID him.
Why hadn't Narconon reported him missing?

Good question.

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Just wish to pass on my
sincere gratitude and total admiration for the tireless volunteers
here. You guys are utterly amazing. 
Much Love to all,
No More Scam.

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Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on November 01, 2012, 08:06
I know the media released pics of his tattoos because nobody could identify his body.

Not sure if I got this right, but I thought Ron lived and worked at the facility.... so why do the police need to resort to such measures to ID him.
Why hadn't Narconon reported him missing?

There are a lot of mysterious things about this death.  It's my understanding he had been moved out of the regular housing and into a hotel - but it seems like, if he was well-liked (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,11780.msg26953.html#msg26953) as stated earlier in the thread, that someone would have had some contact with him even after he went to the hotel. 

And, while he was at Narconon (assuming he wasn't anymore) as a client, it wouldn't be unusual for Narconon to have been holding his wallet and cell phone, and the former client said they had taken his car keys or his car (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,11780.msg26972.html#msg26972), but if he had been kicked out, surely they would have given these things back??  Why was he at Technology Park without a car?  Where was his wallet and ID?  And who goes anywhere without a cell phone these days?  Too many unanswered questions surrounding this death...

And then there's the weirdness with him being wet and muddy and trying to dig under buildings...

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sincere gratitude and total admiration for the tireless volunteers
here. You guys are utterly amazing. 
Much Love to all,
No More Scam.

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Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on November 04, 2012, 01:47
Based upon some background information I have read, I suspect he was sent to the hotel from staff housing because he was caught drinking ( which is not uncommon at Narconon - staff drinking or doing drugs in the housing area), maybe more than once ( his drug of choice and what ruined his career) and since it was more than 6 months since he'd done the program ( an he was probably mandated to be there for a year - hence joining staff like so many wind up doing), he was told he needed pay again for the program by a couple of Narconon staff who paid him a visit there. That he would be reported unless he redid the program.  In despair, knowing his mother was ill and dying of cancer ( like his father the previous year ) knowing he could not ask for the money, knowing that there probably was no more money, he got int an argument about it. Said getting more money couldn't be done. Said he had to stay there or else he'd lose everything and probably go to jail for previous DUI. Promised not to drink anymore. But perhaps Narconon wanted the money? This is what I suspect

After that. who knows. More info will be forth coming but time is needed .
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on November 04, 2012, 09:26
Based upon some background information I have read, I suspect he was sent to the hotel from staff housing because he was caught drinking ( which is not uncommon at Narconon - staff drinking or doing drugs in the housing area), maybe more than once ( his drug of choice and what ruined his career) and since it was more than 6 months since he'd done the program ( an he was probably mandated to be there for a year - hence joining staff like so many wind up doing), he was told he needed pay again for the program by a couple of Narconon staff who paid him a visit there. That he would be reported unless he redid the program.  In despair, knowing his mother was ill and dying of cancer ( like his father the previous year ) knowing he could not ask for the money, knowing that there probably was no more money, he got int an argument about it. Said getting more money couldn't be done. Said he had to stay there or else he'd lose everything and probably go to jail for previous DUI. Promised not to drink anymore. But perhaps Narconon wanted the money? This is what I suspect

After that. who knows. More info will be forth coming but time is needed .

How terrible for this young man, if true. Yes, he made the choice when he picked up the first drink or drug again, but he wanted help. He could have gotten help for free in Gwinnett County and elsewhere at 12 step groups.

In addition, State-funded inpatient and outpatient programs are available in the county. Fees are on a sliding-scale, based on family size and income.
https://www.myviewpointhealth.org/
https://www.myviewpointhealth.org/faqs.da

What a shame!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: who me? on November 05, 2012, 11:52
I think it was David Love that talked about how a person is made to think that their family is why they have turned to drugs and if they go home, they will just relapse and die. This is to scare them and isolate them from their support at home and make them think the only way to survive is to stay on as NN staff (slave labor).

I would bet that NN also tells the students that NN is the only successful program and that on any other program they will relapse and die. This would be corroborated by the many experiences people have with multiple relapses as they are trying to recover from addiction, but then exaggerated to scare the students into staying and not seeking real help.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on November 05, 2012, 18:10
I think it was David Love that talked about how a person is made to think that their family is why they have turned to drugs and if they go home, they will just relapse and die. This is to scare them and isolate them from their support at home and make them think the only way to survive is to stay on as NN staff (slave labor).

I would bet that NN also tells the students that NN is the only successful program and that on any other program they will relapse and die. This would be corroborated by the many experiences people have with multiple relapses as they are trying to recover from addiction, but then exaggerated to scare the students into staying and not seeking real help.

NN also tends to place clients as far from home as possible.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on November 05, 2012, 20:29
It is absolutely criminal what these NN people do.  Mary Rieser is a complete and total liar.  She should be in prison.  She and her organization are almost certainly responsible... legally and morally... for the death of Ron Carona.  They have his blood on their hands.

The Gwinnett Police are clearly derelict in their obligations. 

This is yet another outrage.

Tragic indeed.
Title: Re: DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation.
Post by: snippy on December 21, 2012, 20:12
Do we know for sure if the investigation into Ron Corona's death was completed?

Title: Re: DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation.
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 21, 2012, 20:46
Do we know for sure if the investigation into Ron Corona's death was completed?

DCH was investigating Corona's death? First I heard of that. From what I know, he was a graduate and didn't live at the housing when he died. This thread is about DCH facility record requests.
Title: Re: DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation.
Post by: ethercat on December 21, 2012, 20:50
Do we know for sure if the investigation into Ron Corona's death was completed?

By the police?  I don't know.  I did try to call them to let them know about the people coming on the forum, but had to leave a message.  About a week or two later, the detective in charge of the case got back in touch with me.   ::) 

I tried to tell him about my concerns, and about the illegal housing and drug use there, and he told me that if anyone witnesses the illegal drug use, they should contact the police (but not him, because he's homicide). 

He asked me what kind of work I do that involves an interest in Narconon.  Sigh... I told him my work didn't have anything to do with that, and that I had an interest in Narconon because things that are wrong are taking place there, people are getting hurt, and that I'm just a person who is concerned about that.

None of the suspicious, creepy, and unusual stuff seemed to matter to him because it was an overdose.   :(  But I can't say whether there's still an investigation going on or not.

And now, since I've posted this inf, I'm going to move this part to the Ron Corona thread.   :)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on December 21, 2012, 20:55
A few posts were moved over here from the DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.0.html) thread.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 21, 2012, 21:04
Thanks ethercat.
Title: Re: DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation.
Post by: loriisbored on December 22, 2012, 03:15
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I tried to tell him about my concerns, and about the illegal housing and drug use there, and he told me that if anyone witnesses the illegal drug use, they should contact the police (but not him, because he's homicide). 


would telling the police really help ron's case, and help to shutting down narconon? or just be throwing vulnerable addicts under the bus? i get the feeling that if telling the police eye witness statements would simply end up prosecuting individuals, not the bigger problem. narCONon.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on December 22, 2012, 08:34
My take is that the police and district attorneys of the world (with rare exceptions) are over-extended and just not equipped or able to dig in and address the types of on-going fraudulent / quasi-criminal operations exemplified by Narconon.  For that matter, as we continue to see, state licensing authorities (which are caught up in the political realm) can't very effectively deal with it either.

What can work and work well, as demonstrated by the lawsuits in OK and the Desmond lawsuit here in GA, is (A) families hiring top-gun civil litigators to pursue high dollar compensatory awards and staying the course through that long and expensive process; and (B) major media catching up with the actions of the families and trial lawyers, and serving up some real investigative coverage to shine the cold hard light of day on the misconduct and really boost public awareness. IMO, what would really be most helpful in changing the dynamic at this point is an eight or nine figure jury award (or two or three) as a booming expression of the total outrage of society.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on December 22, 2012, 09:14
My take is that the police and district attorneys of the world (with rare exceptions) are over-extended and just not equipped or able to dig in and address the types of on-going fraudulent / quasi-criminal operations exemplified by Narconon.  For that matter, as we continue to see, state licensing authorities (which are caught up in the political realm) can't very effectively deal with it either.

Yes, this is the situation. State agencies are under-resourced and overwhelmed, if not corrupt.

There have been several stories this year about neglect and abuse in metro Atlanta personal care homes. In some cases, the police were going door-to door, because the state agencies couldn't get around to all of them. These places are popping up on every corner, so you can imagine the challenge of monitoring them. With day care, nursing homes and assisted living under their purview, I suppose drug treatment is just not a priority.

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What can work and work well, as demonstrated by the lawsuits in OK and the Desmond lawsuit here in GA, is (A) families hiring top-gun civil litigators to pursue high dollar compensatory awards and staying the course through that long and expensive process; and (B) major media catching up with the actions of the families and trial lawyers, and serving up some real investigative coverage to shine the cold hard light of day on the misconduct and really boost public awareness. IMO, what would really be most helpful in changing the dynamic at this point is an eight or nine figure jury award (or two or three) as a booming expression of the total outrage of society

At this point, media exposure and litigation appear to be the best options for families and victims of Narconon.
 
A few articles on the situation with personal care homes in GA.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/investigators-go-door-door-checking-care-homes/nN89R/
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/lax-enforcement-in-personal-care-homes/nQT2J/
Title: Re: DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation.
Post by: ethercat on December 22, 2012, 11:36
Quote
I tried to tell him about my concerns, and about the illegal housing and drug use there, and he told me that if anyone witnesses the illegal drug use, they should contact the police (but not him, because he's homicide). 


would telling the police really help ron's case, and help to shutting down narconon? or just be throwing vulnerable addicts under the bus? i get the feeling that if telling the police eye witness statements would simply end up prosecuting individuals, not the bigger problem. narCONon.

Yes, well, I tried to explain to him that the individuals who would be in a position to witness the drug use were accustomed to avoiding the police, not reporting to them.  He wasn't sympathetic to that point of view at all, being a LEO, and he has a point.  If people are at Narconon, presumably they want to get clean, and using or being around drug use is not a good path to get clean.  I'm sympathetic to the addicts who aren't using while at NN, and the drug use by others is something NN and/or Darrell Hall should be controlling. 

That is, if they cared about anything other than the money.

However, the individuals at NN have responsibity for their actions too.  Witnessing a crime and not reporting it is a crime itself, or so I thought.  Individuals shouldn't be using while at a drug rehab.  And they shouldn't be allowed to do so, by NN/DH.  Individuals who are not using shouldn't be tempted by those who are.  And NN/DH shouldn't be running housing that's not licensed.  This whole thing is majorly !@#!ed up!

  -^#^-!
...

Sigh.  No,  IMO, it wouldn't help Ron's case, if one even exists.  It might help to get NN on the police's radar, as something to keep an eye on.  NN is no more upstanding with this than they are with respect to all the other laws they disregard (lying to state agencies, drug courts, etc.).

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 22, 2012, 19:15
^^^
Thanks, ethercat.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Companywitness on December 27, 2012, 12:38
I found this article on our local newssite last night.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/state-taking-steps-shut-down-narconon-georgia/nTgCN/

Hope this helps
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on December 27, 2012, 12:54
I found this article on our local newssite last night.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/state-taking-steps-shut-down-narconon-georgia/nTgCN/

Hope this helps

Thank you Companywitness.  Good to see you again. 

We have a thread going over here about the whole DCH/Narconon situation: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.0.html

 :)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Companywitness on April 26, 2013, 16:34
Looks like the police raided the place here

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/investigators-raid-narconon-georgia/nXYzJ/
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on April 26, 2013, 16:38
Looks like the police raided the place here

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/investigators-raid-narconon-georgia/nXYzJ/

Thanks, Companywitness.  Good to see you here again.  We have a thread here where we're talking about the raid: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12201.120.html
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 26, 2013, 16:58
Yes, nice to see you herar and posting, Companywitness! Join us on the other thread :)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on June 28, 2013, 20:59
Warning: Not for the faint-hearted.

We have the Ron Corona Jr. autopsy report now:
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/Autopsy-RonCoronaJr.pdf

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 28, 2013, 22:35
I wish I had not read that. Not for the faint hearted.

I feel like I invaded his privacy.

After reading it, I am of the opinion that the opinion and conclusions of the  Medical Examiner of this autopsy are appropriate. 

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CAUSE OF DEATH:

TOXIC EFFECTS OF ACUTE COCAINE USE

MANNER OF DEATH:

ACCIDENT

(Medical Examiner's)  Opinion and Comment:

This initially unidentified 39-year-old white male, Ronald Joseph Corona, Jr., likely died as a result of complications of acute cocaine use. The autopsy examination did not disclose any catastrophic natural disease processes or significant acute injuries. The postmortem drug screen was positive for cocaine and a metabolite of cocaine (benzoylecgonine). No alcohol (ethyl alcohol) or other licit or illicit drugs were detected in the postmortem blood.
The findings at the scene (which reportedly were indicative of erratic behavior), combined with the autopsy findings, were consistent with a condition referred to as "Excited Delirium Syndrome," as described in Excited Delirium Syndrome by Theresa and Vincent Di Maio (copyright 2006). This condition is commonly seen in association with certain types of drug use and/or mental illness and can terminate in a sudden cardiac arrest due to the increase in catecholamines (such as epinephrine, norepinephrine, and dopamine) in the bloodstream. This type of stress and stimulation results in what is commonly referred to as a "fight or flight" response that, when excessive, can trigger a cardiac dysrhythmia and sudden cardiac arrest.

Opinion and Comment, continued:

As the subject died as a complication of his acute cocaine use and there was no evidence of involvement of another/others in the subject's death, the manner of death is ruled as "accident."

The subject was positively identified by a postmortem fingerprint comparison with a copy of the subject's fingerprints reportedly obtained from law enforcement in Pennsylvania.

Carol A. Terry, M.D.


That is all one really needs to know.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on June 29, 2013, 00:05
I wish I had not read that. Not for the faint hearted.

Sorry, Mary.  I added a warning to my post. 

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I feel like I invaded his privacy.

After reading it, I am of the opinion that the opinion and conclusions of the  Medical Examiner of this autopsy are appropriate. 

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CAUSE OF DEATH:

TOXIC EFFECTS OF ACUTE COCAINE USE

MANNER OF DEATH:

ACCIDENT

(Medical Examiner's)  Opinion and Comment:

This initially unidentified 39-year-old white male, Ronald Joseph Corona, Jr., likely died as a result of complications of acute cocaine use. The autopsy examination did not disclose any catastrophic natural disease processes or significant acute injuries. The postmortem drug screen was positive for cocaine and a metabolite of cocaine (benzoylecgonine). No alcohol (ethyl alcohol) or other licit or illicit drugs were detected in the postmortem blood.
The findings at the scene (which reportedly were indicative of erratic behavior), combined with the autopsy findings, were consistent with a condition referred to as "Excited Delirium Syndrome," as described in Excited Delirium Syndrome by Theresa and Vincent Di Maio (copyright 2006). This condition is commonly seen in association with certain types of drug use and/or mental illness and can terminate in a sudden cardiac arrest due to the increase in catecholamines (such as epinephrine, norepinephrine, and dopamine) in the bloodstream. This type of stress and stimulation results in what is commonly referred to as a "fight or flight" response that, when excessive, can trigger a cardiac dysrhythmia and sudden cardiac arrest.

Opinion and Comment, continued:

As the subject died as a complication of his acute cocaine use and there was no evidence of involvement of another/others in the subject's death, the manner of death is ruled as "accident."

The subject was positively identified by a postmortem fingerprint comparison with a copy of the subject's fingerprints reportedly obtained from law enforcement in Pennsylvania.

Carol A. Terry, M.D.


That is all one really needs to know.

I'd still like to know if he was running from something real, or his own demons.   :(
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 29, 2013, 01:16
Thanks, ethercat.

I'm not sure if anything but the cocaine and his mental state were the triggers... Although the amount of cocaine in his blood was somewhat low by the time they found him ( it metabolizes with a half life of 30 mins on average), he certainly did a significant amount of cocaine before he died as evidenced by the large level of metabolites ( Benzoylecgonine ) in his system (which have a much longer half life - 6 hrs on average)

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I. Blood from iliac veins positive for (per State Crime Laboratory)
A. Cocaine, 0.18 mg/L (+/- 22%)
B. Benzoylecgonine, 9.6 mg/L (+/- 22%)

I did a bit of research and maybe the conclusion of the ME are not as conclusive as I thought... certainly there is evidence of delirium... and it was not like he had defensive wounds. But does " "Excited Delirium Syndrome" explain his condition?


The word "likely" means the cause of death is not definitive. And this comment about Excited Delirium Syndrome....

Quote
Opinion and Comment:
This initially unidentified 39-year-old white male, Ronald Joseph Corona, Jr.,
likely died
as a result of complications of acute cocaine use. [..]

[..] The findings at the scene (which reportedly were indicative of erratic behavior), combined with the autopsy findings, were consistent with a condition referred to as "Excited Delirium Syndrome"

is questioned by some in the medical and legal fields...

Excited delirium

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Excited delirium is a condition that manifests as a combination of delirium, psychomotor agitation, anxiety, hallucinations, speech disturbances, disorientation, violent and bizarre behavior, insensitivity to pain, elevated body temperature, and superhuman strength.[1][2] Excited delirium is sometimes called excited delirium syndrome if it results in sudden death (usually via cardiac or respiratory arrest), an outcome that is sometimes associated with the use of physical control measures, including police restraint and tasers.[1][2] Excited delirium arises most commonly in male subjects with a history of serious mental illness and/or acute or chronic drug abuse, particularly stimulant drugs such as cocaine.[1][3] Alcohol withdrawal or head trauma may also contribute to the condition.[4]

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The diagnosis of excited delirium has been controversial.[5][6] Excited delirium has been listed as a cause of death by some medical examiners for several years,[7][8] mainly as a diagnosis of exclusion established on autopsy.[1] Additionally, academic discussion of excited delirium has been largely confined to forensic science literature, providing limited documentation about patients that survive the condition.[1] These circumstances have led some civil liberties groups to question the cause of death diagnosis, claiming that excited delirium has been used to "excuse and exonerate" law enforcement authorities following the death of detained subjects, a possible "conspiracy or cover-up for brutality" when restraining agitated individuals.[1][5][6] Also contributing to the controversy is the role of taser use in excited delirium deaths.[3][9] The American College of Emergency Physicians has officially recognized excited delirium as a unique syndrome[10] and "rejects the theory" that excited delirium is an "invented syndrome" used to excuse or cover-up the use of excessive force by law enforcement.[11] However, it has not been recognized as a medical or psychiatric diagnosis according to either the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR) of the American Psychiatric Association or the International Classification of Diseases of the World Health Organization.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_delirium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_delirium)

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Kelly Irwin on June 29, 2013, 14:52
The autopsy conclusion seems plausible.

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Tachydysrhythmias cause most acute cocaine-related nontraumatic deaths. Other causes of sudden death include stroke, subarachnoid hemorrhage, hyperthermia, and the consequences of agitated delirium. Myocardial infarction (MI) can result from acute vasospasm, dysrhythmia, or chronic accelerated atherogenic disease.

and...

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Agitated (excited) delirium

Patients presenting with agitated delirium, also known as excited delirium, are at high risk for sudden death, with a fatality rate of approximately 10%.[14] Agitated delirium is a common presentation in patients dying from cocaine toxicity. Of cocaine-associated deaths investigated by the Medical Examiner's Department of Metropolitan Dade County, Florida, between 1979 and 1990, excited delirium was the terminal event in approximately 1 of every 6 fatalities. Patients with excited delirium had an immediate onset of bizarre and violent behavior, which included aggression, combativeness, hyperactivity, hyperthermia, extreme paranoia, unexpected strength, and/or incoherent shouting. All of these were followed by cardiorespiratory arrest.[13]

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/813959-overview
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on June 29, 2013, 16:27
Excellent work to obtain the autopsy report.  Of greatest interest to me is the following from page 3:

"Investigator Whaley said he had located a missing person's report from the
Norcross Police Department. It listed an individual that had been living at an
extended stay motel within a few miles of the location the decedent was found."

Who made this report?  When?  Why?  What motel?  How often were NNGA patients and staff put up there for "time outs" a/k/a do whatever the hell you want because we certainly don't give a damn? 

If I recall correctly, such temporary placements were pretty much standard operating practice for people like Brandon O who kept right on doing drugs while in the program but had family members who were able and willing to keep writing checks.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on July 01, 2013, 18:37
Excellent work to obtain the autopsy report.  Of greatest interest to me is the following from page 3:

"Investigator Whaley said he had located a missing person's report from the
Norcross Police Department. It listed an individual that had been living at an
extended stay motel within a few miles of the location the decedent was found."

Who made this report?  When?  Why?

I'd like the answers to those questions also.

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What motel?

According to this article, it was the Guest Inn: http://norcross.patch.com/groups/obituaries/p/funeral-for-norcross-man-found-in-technology-park-setcce9651740


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  How often were NNGA patients and staff put up there for "time outs" a/k/a do whatever the hell you want because we certainly don't give a damn? 

If I recall correctly, such temporary placements were pretty much standard operating practice for people like Brandon O who kept right on doing drugs while in the program but had family members who were able and willing to keep writing checks.

I think it's pretty common - there have been a number of students who were dropped off at motels, homeless shelters, bus stations, etc. when Narconon (not just in Georgia) wanted them out; and we've often heard about staff relapsing and then returning to Narconon, so they must be staying somewhere while they're gone.  Perhaps someone with first-hand NN experience can comment further.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 01, 2013, 19:50
 This tragic affair is yet another example of the care in which NarCONon offers those whom stumble during NarCONon's so called treatment regime.

 This group of brainwashed individuals (NarCONon employee's) are NOT in any moral or professional fashion able to deal with "Real world" scenario,s like that that befell Ron Corona JR.

 I think it is "crimmnal" in allowing this organization (NarCONon of Georgia) to operate in any fashion. One of our STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES has allowed this entity to operate unimpeded for far to long.   
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on August 13, 2013, 07:03
Today is the one year anniversary of Ron Corona's unnecessary death.  My condolences to all who loved him, and from what I gather, that includes just about anyone who ever met him.  I know today will not be easy for those people.

Thank you to everyone who added information to this thread and elsewhere, and helped to piece this mystery together.  I've tried to weave all the information into this summary:
The Tragic, Macabre Death of Ron Corona, Jr. | Narconon Reviews (http://narcononreviews.net/narconon/the-tragic-macabre-death-of-ron-corona-jr/).

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Witnessman on August 13, 2013, 10:04
The death of this young man was a terrible tragedy and is more blood on the hands of Mary Rieser and the others operating Narconon of GA.

Thank you for the outstanding summary at Narconon Reviews.  And for all you do.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on August 13, 2013, 12:35
Thank you, Witnessman.  That's very kind of you to say.  Hopefully, soon, we'll be able to say those that operatED Narconon of Georgia.

I'm eagerly awaiting the licensing appeal hearing (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.msg32134.html#msg32134) later this month.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on August 14, 2013, 07:28
I'm eagerly awaiting the licensing appeal hearing (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.msg32134.html#msg32134) later this month.

Correction, at the end of next month (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.msg32396.html#msg32396).
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: BigBeard on August 14, 2013, 09:25
There needs to be a push in Georgia, and other states that operate this way, to shut them down first, let them appeal the decision later.

Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 14, 2013, 20:52
There needs to be a push in Georgia, and other states that operate this way, to shut them down first, let them appeal the decision later.

I agree.

RIP, Ron Corona
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on November 11, 2013, 10:46
I found this in the comments here:
http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/hollywood/scientologys-narconon-a-legacy-of-failure-and-death/

Quote
PaulaFW
• a year ago

My cousin just died of a drug or alcohol overdose while working as a drug and alcohol counselor at Narcanon of Georgia, after "graduating" from the program. Of couse, Nacrcanon said he was "let go" before he went missing. He was found dead in an industrial park by a janitor and his body layed in a morgue, decomposing, for 10 days before he was identified. Our family is mortified!!! The only people who knew him in Georgia were Narcanon people (we are from PA) and NO ONE there cared to try to find out what happened to him. This place is a disgrace and something needs to be done! Where do we start??

Paula, if you find this, please get in touch: http://narcononreviews.net/about-narconon-reviews/contact-us/
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 23, 2014, 17:33
Warning: Not for the faint-hearted.

We have the Ron Corona Jr. autopsy report now:
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/Autopsy-RonCoronaJr.pdf

Is it time?
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SallySock on July 23, 2014, 17:52
I am fainthearted- could someone who is not please provide a tl/dr version of the autopsy?
TIA
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: mefree on July 23, 2014, 18:43
I think Mary summarized it fairly well in this post: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,11780.msg31906.html#msg31906

However, the autopsy gives the impression that he was thrashing through the woods and falling down. His body was covered in shrubbery/debris and he was wet. He ended up at an office park where it appeared he had been attempting to tunnel under the building with his hands to get in.

He had nothing in his pockets. He had various abrasions and contusions.

Summary of Findings from the autopsy:
I. Blood from iliac veins positive for (per State Crime Laboratory)
A. Cocaine, 0.18 mg/L (+/- 22%)
B. Benzoylecgonine, 9.6 mg/L (+/- 22%)
II. Hepatomegaly with hepatic steatosis
III. Mild biventricular dilation of heart
IV. Superficial abrasions and contusions of head, torso, and bilateral
upper and lower extremities
V. Partial-thickness, small laceration over bony prominence of lateral left
eyebrow
VI. No evidence of significant acute traumatic injury

The manner of death was ruled accidental and the cause of death was determined to be due to toxic effects of cocaine use.

If you can't tolerate reading the entire document, you might want to read the last few pages of the autopsy in which the conclusions were made. 

 :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: SallySock
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SallySock on July 24, 2014, 09:02
Thank you!
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: ethercat on July 26, 2014, 11:10
Welcome, SallySock!

(belated, sorry)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 26, 2014, 11:12
 Bump!  ;D
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: DeathHamster on July 28, 2014, 10:57
Bump!  ;D
Bumping back!

UmbraXenu Category:Ronald Corona (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Ronald_Corona)
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 28, 2014, 12:21
Bump!  ;D
Bumping back!

UmbraXenu Category:Ronald Corona (http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Ronald_Corona)
I see your bump AND raise you with a bump! I doubt this makes any sense,but what the hey,i,m out of clever hat tricks.
Title: Re: A NEW NARCONON DEATH NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT
Post by: SocialTransparency on July 30, 2014, 14:07

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