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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon in Canada => Topic started by: Intelligence on April 15, 2012, 20:40

Title: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 15, 2012, 20:40
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https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/#post-2095961

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?26916-Narconon-Trois-Rivieres-CLOSED&p=680342

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 15, 2012, 20:42
Wow! Fantastic news, David. Thanks for your Irish persistence.

 :^:^:^:E
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: ethercat on April 15, 2012, 21:17
Is this really true??

If so, we definitely need to have a party!

Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 15, 2012, 21:31
Is this really true??

If so, we definitely need to have a party!

I can't believe it either. It is very surreal for me right now.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 15, 2012, 21:40
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https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/#post-2095961

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?26916-Narconon-Trois-Rivieres-CLOSED&p=680342

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I love you man!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 15, 2012, 23:20
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 15, 2012, 23:58
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Thank you Mary. My Passport will be ready soon and a contact in the USA is helping me if I need
a Green Card. :-)

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 16, 2012, 00:01
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Thank you Mary. My Passport will be ready soon and a contact in the USA is helping me if I need
a Green Card. :-)

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I am so happy to hear this!! ps: Don't post too many details about the green card issue. Don't want the church to try and interfere with that if possible. 
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 00:09
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Thank you Mary. My Passport will be ready soon and a contact in the USA is helping me if I need
a Green Card. :-)

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I am so happy to hear this!! ps: Don't post too many details about the green card issue. Don't want the church to try and interfere with that if possible.

No, I won't post anymore about it. I have no Criminal record and employment is easy for me:-)

i may not even need a Green Card - - my book will be published soon - - so we'll see :-)

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 16, 2012, 00:17
 What were those lyric,s to that Robert Palmer song?

 "Might as well face it your addicted to LOVE"

 Cheesy? Why yes, but I am currently in a state of bliss. ^o:
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Damian DeWitt on April 16, 2012, 01:49


Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Damian DeWitt on April 16, 2012, 01:59
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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Damian DeWitt on April 16, 2012, 05:28
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Mary, could you post a list of the remaining Narconon facilities in the US and Canada we have to shut down? It would be nice to have a "target acquistion list."

Thanks.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 16, 2012, 09:02
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  ;D
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 14:15

A few minutes after noon today, a journalist for the TVA television network reported live that Narconon Trois-Rivières has to shut down because it failed to obtain accreditation as a residential detoxification center. About 30 patients are currently enrolled and have to be relocated. The reporter said that Narconon intends to appeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_IEnGOeHDY
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: ethercat on April 16, 2012, 14:45
David, your good news about Narconon TR has been added to the news section above the menu bar, with a link to this thread.  This is a fantastic development, and it's great to have verification from a television network.

 :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E  :^:^:^:E
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 14:52

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201204/16/01-4515872-narconon-contraint-de-fermer-ses-portes.php

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Subtitles are being done right now for the French Newscast earlier today. Will post ASAP ;)
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 16, 2012, 15:40
 Excellent news confirmed in writing!! :-(8/ for Narconon Trois-Rivieres !!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 15:44
You have no idea how HAPPY I am today:-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEgijnc4L8&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 16, 2012, 16:41
You have no idea how HAPPY I am today:-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEgijnc4L8&feature=player_embedded#!

We are happy too.   ;D
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 17:37
BREAKING NEWS on TVA NEWSCAST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_aae0V3yDo&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: ethercat on April 16, 2012, 17:51
Just the beginning! 

       /////__

I've been waiting for the opportunity to use that one.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SomeonesSister on April 16, 2012, 20:28
now to get narCONon of georgia closed and the rest of them...they have turned my sister against me.  she came home yesterday-no one bothered to tell me.  she has already send 4 nasty texts to which i will not reply.  been reading the "books" from narCONon that have been posted and she is brainwashed.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 16, 2012, 20:39
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now to get narCONon of georgia closed and the rest of them...they have turned my sister against me.  she came home yesterday-no one bothered to tell me.  she has already send 4 nasty texts to which i will not reply.  been reading the "books" from narCONon that have been posted and she is brainwashed.

Bummer. Is she planning on working for them or do you know?
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 16, 2012, 21:47
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Government shuts down dangerous Narconon
CBC Montreal Live - April 16, 2012: Narconon Trois-Rivieres has been shut down by the Quebec Ministry of Health and Social Services following a lengthy investigation by the Ministry. Patients transferred to other centers.
http://youtu.be/2v4b3m8ohlU

CBC Montreal Radio Report April 16th 2012: The Narconon Drug Prevention and Rehabilitation Centre in Trois-Rivières is shut down for 'dangerous' practices.

Transcript:

Quebec's Health Department has shut down a drug rehab center in Trois-Rivières that is linked to Scientology.

The local health agency called the Narconon program "dangerous for the health of its patients." CBC reporter Catou MacKinnon is looking into this story and joins us now. Catou.

Catou MacKinnon: Lauren, I'm looking at a two-page document sent by the local regional health agency about a week ago. And it follows a visit of Narconon in early February. And the report, or, I guess, this two-page letter is actually quite scathing in its critique of what was going on there. It says the center did not evaluate patients when they first came in, to see the severity of their addictions, that it uses something called "biophysical detox" that is not based on science, that they do follow the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, who is the founder of Scientology, and that people who work there were not trained properly. There was no evaluation of suicide risks.

And so I've learned since then ... I talked to an uncle of a patient who was there. We are granting him anonymity to protect the identity of the young man who was there. He was in his early twenties. He was one of about twenty-four patients.

Now they found out on Friday that the center was being shut down. They were not told why, and they were even told not to contact their family or the person, their sponsor, who had paid the $25,000 it takes to get into this detox center. So that particular young man has been taken out. His family - they're not Scientologists, but they do believe in this program to get somebody off drugs - so they've actually sent him to another Narconon center in Michigan. But apparently, there are still seven patients left there. We don't know what's going to happen to them. I have been unable to reach Narconon or the director of their legal affairs.

And the Health Ministry is holding a press conference tomorrow, so we'll find out more then.


Radio Report: http://live.cbc.ca/Event/CBC_Montreal/27962744
Thread: https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/narconon-trois-rivieres-is-closed.101820/
About Narconon: http://narconon-exposed.org
About the Scientology cult: http://www.xenu.net
Anonymous Protests: http://www.downwiththe.org/chanology-protests
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 16, 2012, 22:06
Here is the Video of this ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v4b3m8ohlU
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 16, 2012, 22:28
I linked it above  ;)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 16, 2012, 23:03
Good work!! Such :w:e:l:c:o:m:e: news!!!!  Such cause for   :^:^:^:E
Thanks and congrats to you David!  Keep us posted on the details!!

Ok, that's 4 down because of critics and (along with complaintants causing income loss and or debts)

Narconon Stone Hawk
Narconon Newport Beach
Narconon Joshua Hills aka Narconon Desert Rehab
Narconon Trois-Rivieres  !!!

Mary, could you post a list of the remaining Narconon facilities in the US and Canada we have to shut down? It would be nice to have a "target acquistion list."

Thanks.

Hi Damian, Good to see you posting here!!

I have moved my reply to a new thread titled ' List of Narconon Programs ' which can be found here
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10168.0.html#new

Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 16, 2012, 23:32
David posted this excellent videoed CBC Montreal Live short news report on Ex Scientologist Message Board:

Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED
Published on Apr 16, 2012 by Intelligenceplus


CBC Montreal Live - April 16, 2012: Narconon Trois-Rivieres has been shut down by the Quebec Ministry of Health and Social Services following a lengthy investigation by the Ministry. Patients transferred to other centers.

http://youtu.be/2v4b3m8ohlU

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?26916-Narconon-Trois-Rivieres-CLOSED/page4
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: az155960 on April 17, 2012, 00:25
I just joined this site. This is amazing news!

I am so proud to hear this. I can only imagine the amount of time and work went into this.
Great Job!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 17, 2012, 11:21
I just joined this site. This is amazing news!

I am so proud to hear this. I can only imagine the amount of time and work went into this.
Great Job!
Welcome to the board.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 18, 2012, 09:20
Scientologist-run rehab centre ordered closed in Quebec
At least four clients taken to hospital in recent months
CBC News Posted: Apr 17, 2012 7:02 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2012 10:13 PM ET

The head of a regional health agency in Quebec said he had no choice but to shut down a Scientology-based rehab centre in Trois-Rivières.

In recent months, he said at least four clients were taken to hospital because of methods used at the centre.

The Narconon Trois-Rivières is one of dozens of similar centres in the U.S. and around the world where the detox treatment is inspired by the teachings of Scientology.

Mauricie regional health agency director Marc Latour said Narconon Trois-Rivières advertised an 80 per cent success rate and charged $25,000 for its program.

Latour said the centre was dangerous for patients and violated many of the criteria regulating Quebec's rehab centres.

He said there was no medical supervision and no scientific basis to the treatment.

Latour said patients went cold turkey, then underwent lengthy sauna detox sessions designed to sweat out drugs and took an unhealthy amount of vitamins. [..]

Read on for more ( best to not copy whole article. They miss the view hits)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/17/narconon-trois-rivieres.html
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: SocialTransparency on April 18, 2012, 09:43
Soooooo tired, yet sooooooo happy. Justice can be had when the concerned citizen speaks out. :D
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 18, 2012, 09:53
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Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - David Edgar Love interview on CBC Radio - Québec City. Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKvAlkwF9A&feature=player_embedded

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 18, 2012, 10:03
I'm listening right now! Way to go, David!! Very detailed interview!!
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: ethercat on April 18, 2012, 13:35
Scientologist-run rehab centre ordered closed in Quebec
At least four clients taken to hospital in recent months
CBC News Posted: Apr 17, 2012 7:02 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 17, 2012 10:13 PM ET

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Read on for more ( best to not copy whole article. They miss the view hits)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/17/narconon-trois-rivieres.html

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Her son and about half of the 34 people who were at the centre when it was shut down have been sent to a Narconon centre in the U.S.

I wonder which one they went to?  The deadly Narconon (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,8624.0.html)  Arrowhead (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10139.0.html) in Oklahoma, the deceptive (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,9939.0.html) and fraudulent Narconon of Georgia (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,8408.msg22048.html#msg22048), the filthy Narconon Vista Bay (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,5398.0.html), or some other disgusting Narconon (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/board,46.0.html) branch?
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 18, 2012, 15:22
Here is the next video:


Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - Quebec Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety. Health officials say Narconon preys on the vulnerable and desperate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMT16AEDAxo&feature=player_embedded

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Just received this message and quite a few others:

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April 18, 2012 - 2:31pm


I was at Narconon Arrowhead Xxxxxxx to visit Xxxxxxx that still work there and live in those awful cabins... My friend Xxxxxx was telling me about a staff meeting they had where they talked about the closing of a Narconon in Canada... and how the person who worked so hard to close it was an ungrateful, suppressive, man who owed his life to the facilities because without Narconon he would most likely be dead in the streets. They were also told that you were to be considered dangerous to the narconon family and that you said arrowhead was next... then warned them that you might try get information from staff members and anyone caught speaking with you would be considered a suppressive person and terminated immediately... then when I was told the name of the person this whole meeting was about it turns out it was you! I was thinking that I just added you on facebook! Small world.

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And here is my response:

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Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 18, 2012, 18:42
One article said that some patients were sent to 'Michigan'.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: mefree on April 18, 2012, 19:03
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Published on Apr 18, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - David Edgar Love interview on CBC Radio - Québec City. Health officials have ordered a private Scientology drug rehabilitation centre, Narconon Trois-Rivières to shut its doors. The Narconon Addiction Recovery Centre's methods are based on the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard. The local health agency says some of the centre's practices posed a danger to health and safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKvAlkwF9A&feature=player_embedded

Slowpoke here. I love the picture.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Intelligence on April 19, 2012, 14:26
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Narconon Trois-Rivières: Disturbing testimony from former employees

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201204/18/01-4516403-des-constats-inquietants.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_actualites_442_section_POS1

 by Paule Vermot Desroches
 April 18, 2012

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Photo caption: From left to right: Émilie Marin, Sylvain Bérard, Julie Ann Pagé, Odette Poulin,
 and Sylvie Houde, former employees of Narconon Trois-Rivières.
 (Photo by François Gervais)

 (Trois-Rivières) Things weren't sailing very smoothly inside Narconon during the past few months. This, at least, is what emerges from the testimony of Narconon employees who, after their sudden dismissal, felt the need to speak out in public about the situation to Le Nouvelliste.

 First and foremost, the employees wished to defend the program offered by Narconon as an effective program that has time and again produced excellent results, but they said that the center's administration left much to be desired and sometimes even endangered the safety of certain residents and employees.

 Sylvain Bérard, the Ethics Officer, said that Narconon had already been experiencing financial problems for some time, to such an extent that, in recent months, the organization had even been admitting clients with more serious problems of a psychiatric nature.

 "Some of these cases weren't admissible to the program because it requires cutting off their medication. But the administration chose to keep them anyway. There were several instances of attempted suicide during the past few months. By law, immediate medical assistance should have been provided, but management decided to keep these persons without calling for an ambulance," says the former employee.

 His colleague, Julie Ann Pagé remembers a female resident who, less than ten days earlier, made at least two suicide attempts in one day, but she was not referred to a hospital. Ms. Pagé says that incidents like this were blamed on the employees for supposedly "not delivering enough."

 "We believe in what we are doing, and we do it for the sake of our residents, for the families, because we believe that everyone can be rehabilitated. But we were treated like assholes, as less than nothing," says Julie Ann Pagé, who was responsible for the withdrawal phase at Narconon.

 All of the employees gathered around the table said they had received no pay for at least six weeks, and neither had they received the 4% of salary due to them at the termination of employment. Yesterday morning, they went to the labour standards commission office to inquire about their possible recourse.

 "There were several times we didn't get paid on time. But they promised us all sorts of things. It was lie after lie. We weren't supposed to talk about it with each other, otherwise we risked getting fired," remembers Sylvie Houde.

 Narconon's finances were so badly managed that Julie Ann Pagé and another co-worker were forced to get rid of the center's trash because Narconon couldn't afford to have its garbage bins emptied. Sylvain Bérard also recalls that, in 2009, clients were compelled to eat ground beef for a whole month, even though the clients could spend between $20,000 and $30,000 for their stay.

 "We had no right to have a personal opinion. The only thing that mattered was their teaching of Scientology. Don't do to others what you wouldn't want them to do to you. This was one of their internal rules, but they themselves don't apply it. They have no respect for us or for the residents," says Sylvie Houde.

 "We're playing with people's lives"

 While the Narconon employees were at Le Nouvelliste, one of their cell phones rang. On the line was a woman from the Maritimes who was worried because she hadn't heard from her brother who was in therapy in Trois-Rivières. The man she was referring to had been relocated to the Narconon center in Calgary. His family members had not been notified and no one at Narconon Trois-Rivières was answering the phone to reassure them.

 Discouragement was perceptible around the table. "There's no better example to show the kind of management that goes on there. Right now, they're taking away all of the center's records, confidential files they don't want anyone to see because of the crooked way they manage," says Odette Poulin.

 Odette Poulin points out that every employee had to sign a contract with Narconon that prohibits them from speaking to the media. "We weren't supposed to reveal anything to the press. We're speaking today anyway for the sake of the parents and the students, but also for the employees. We were treated as less than nothing," says Julie Ann Pagé. "We didn't even get a thank you or a letter of reference," laments Odette Poulin.

 Émilie Marin, who resigned from Narconon last March 30, emphasizes however that their criticism of the administration only concerns Narconon Trois-Rivières and does not necessarily apply to the other centers around the world.

 Sylvain Girard, for his part, suspects that the Narconon Trois-Rivières administration is now turning to Toronto to open a new center. "I think this is the biggest danger, because they'll open somewhere else in Canada. The whole country needs to be aware of what's happening. As far as the program is concerned, I firmly believe in it. I believe that a person should not be cured of an addiction by taking other drugs. The Narconon program is a logical program. But it was time for the government to close down Narconon Trois-Rivières because psychiatric cases are out of line with our capabilities. The situation had become dangerous," said Mr. Bérard. "We're playing with people's lives," adds Julie Ann Pagé.

 Le Nouvelliste tried again to contact the administration of Narconon Trois-Rivières by telephone and by email to offer an opportunity to respond, but without success.
Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 19, 2012, 16:02
Wow,   8-O)--|#|

Hope they all find work, soon. Can't wait  they find out what the real world of rehab is like!



Title: Re: Narconon Trois-Rivieres CLOSED!!!
Post by: ethercat on April 19, 2012, 16:29
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Narconon Trois-Rivières: Disturbing testimony from former employees

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-nouvelliste/actualites/201204/18/01-4516403-des-constats-inquietants.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_actualites_442_section_POS1

 by Paule Vermot Desroches
 April 18, 2012

Wow!  What a great article.  I agree with Mary about them finding out about the real world of rehab, and I suspect the ones emphasizing that Narconon is not the problem, just the management at Trois-Rivieres is, are hoping to be picked up by another Narconon somewhere else.

I will add that the attitude is similar to what I've seen with Scientology - Through the Door interviews with ex-members (in my sig), and also similar to Arnie Lerma's 8 9 10 Steps Out of Scientology (http://www.lermanet.com/cos/8steps.html), in that people see the problems on a local level first, then they begin to see that it goes all the way to the top and back to the roots.

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Post by: Intelligence on April 19, 2012, 20:20
Health Board Slams Scientology Rehab

Published on Apr 19, 2012 by Intelligenceplus

April 18, 2012 - The Quebec Health Board "Slams" the Scientology Rehab, Narconon, for exploiting desperate families by promising an 80% success rate and placing patient's health in danger by forcing patients to ingest toxic doses of vitamins in exteme, dangerous doses and not having any qualified medical staff at Narconon Trois-Rivieres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MViOfvMZOVI&feature=player_embedded

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Post by: mefree on April 19, 2012, 20:34
Excellent video!
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Post by: Intelligence on April 19, 2012, 22:21
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http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Inside+Narconon+bizarre+treatments/6488215/story.html


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In October 2009, six months after he had gone from “graduate” of the Narconon program to “Certified Counsellor,” David Love began a crusade to have it shut down. He has filed a complaint with the Quebec Human Rights Commission.
 
Photograph by: Marie-France Coallier , THE GAZETTE
 

MONTREAL - Perhaps the lowest point in David Love’s “treatment” for drug addiction at Narconon Trois Rivières was the five-hour sauna on his 25th day of five-hour saunas.
 
Being forced to yell at an ashtray for hours on end – “Stand up, ashtray!” “Thank you.” “Sit back down, ashtray!” – also left him confused and frustrated. But it was when Love realized that the rehab centre inspired by the teachings of Scientology was actually putting vulnerable addicts’ health at risk – and that he had become a part of the machinery – that he decided to get out.
 
On Oct. 28, 2009, six months after he had gone from “graduate” of the Narconon program to “Certified Counsellor,” Love left the facility and began a crusade to have it shut down. In July 2011, following his complaint, the Quebec College of Physicians ordered Dr. Pierre Labonté, Narconon’s “medical manager,” to cut his associations with the centre, located about 125 kilometres northeast of Montreal. The Quebec labour relations tribunal also mediated in Love’s favour when he complained about being paid $2.50 an hour as a staff member.
 
Then last Friday, 2½ years after Love began his campaign, public health officials for the Mauricie region ordered Narconon to relocate its 32 residents and told the organization they would not certify the centre, because its approach was not recognized in this province, and that its practices, including the saunas and massive doses of niacin, were potentially putting patients’ health at risk.
 
Most of the patients, from B.C. and other provinces as well as the United States, have since been relocated to Narconon centres in the U.S.
 
As for David Love, he remains drug-free since he left Narconon – but deeply traumatized by what he saw and went through in Trois Rivières.
 
“I’ll wake up from nightmares sometimes. I still have a very difficult time sleeping,” says Love, who has been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder by a psychiatrist at the Allan Memorial Institute. “It’s the intensity of the program they put you through, it affects your psyche.”
 
Love’s saga with Narconon began after he was hospitalized in Vancouver for a drug overdose. His daughter, then an Ethics Officer at Narconon, suggested he should join her in Trois Rivières for Narconon’s drug-free program. She could work out a deal whereby he could pay half price – $11,500 – in bi-weekly instalments, using his unemployment cheques. He agreed.

The first step, he says, is always in one of the withdrawal rooms on the ground floor, where each patient spends the first three to 12 days. No physician is seen before or during drug withdrawal.

Then come the personality and IQ tests, performed at regular intervals on patients, and the interrogation by an Ethics Officer to make sure a patient, or “student” as Narconon calls them, is not an undercover reporter.
 
Once cleared, the student can then begin the “Purification Rundown,” 4.5-to-five-hour-long sessions in the sauna, in conjunction with massive doses of niacin. L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction author and the founder of the Church of Scientology, believed that drug residues are stored in the body’s fatty tissues, causing the addict’s cravings when they are partially released later on.

But they can be flushed out through a regimen of exercise, sauna and high doses of vitamins, particularly niacin, Hubbard believed. According to Love, students got doses of niacin that far exceeded Health Canada’s recommended maximum of 500 mg a day.
 
In high doses, niacin is toxic to the liver, Love said. “And many (Narconon) patients already have compromised livers because of their alcoholism, and some have Hepatitis C.”
 
The head of the Mauricie public health agency, Marc Lacour, said Tuesday that at least four of the centre’s patients had been taken to hospital in the last few months, but for reasons of patient confidentiality, the agency could not provide details.
 
Love also remembers a few who suffered when Narconon staff refused to give them their medicine. On several websites used to attract potential clients, Narconon boasts of its 70-to-75 per cent success rate and entirely drug-free program – which even excludes prescription drugs. In one case, staff members withheld insulin from a diabetic patient undergoing the sauna treatment. That young man ended up in hospital for three days, Love said. In another, it took away a patient’s anti-depressants. He jumped from a second-floor window in a suicide attempt.
 
As for its success rate, in an interview with CBC this month, the legal affairs director of Narconon, André Ahern, admitted Narconon does not necessarily keep track of patients once they leave the facility – so it cannot know how many have relapsed. Ahern did not answer The Gazette’s requests for comment Tuesday and Wednesday.
 
For Love, the lasting effects of the Narconon experience were psychological.
 
The ashtray routine was just one of several training routines Love says are designed to make students accept they are being controlled, and teach them how to control others.

In another routine, two students were put in a room and repeatedly ordered each other to go to a wall, touch a wall, pick up a bottle, put it down, etc. The exercise could last hours, or several days, but until students were deemed to have completed it they couldn’t move on, Love said.
 
“They wouldn’t let a patient go on to the next stage until they were ‘cracked,’ ” Love said, quoting from one of Hubbard’s books.

“These things really affected me. Being forced to say there’s nothing more I can do.

“They’d say keep going, keep going, when people were in tears ... You have no money, you don’t know the language, you have nowhere to live, no money for food, you’re stuck there. You’re f----d. You have to do it. ... It was One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest times 10.”
 
When patients complained to parents who were paying the fees, staff members would convince them that it was normal they should want to leave, but that for their own good they had to complete the program.
 
Love only realized that Narconon was closely linked to the Church of Scientology when he graduated from the program after five months, and became a staff member. He was given $700 worth of Scientology books that echoed the teachings in the Narconon books he already read.
 
Narconon often recruited former students to be staff, Love said.
 
Lacour, of the public health agency, said that following several complaints, Narconon Trois Rivières has been more upfront recently about its ideology. “They are no longer hiding the fact they are inspired by Scientology, but they are not there to recruit,” Lacour said.

Love disagrees, and says he believes that on top of providing new recruits to the church, Narconon, which has 50 centres in 22 countries, funnels money to it. Since 2005, when the centre in Trois Rivières opened, Love calculated it had treated 720 patients and earned more than $16 million, much of which went to church executives in the form of salaries, and donations to the church.

Love has received leaked emails that point to the close relationship between the Church of Scientology in Montreal and Narconon Trois Rivières.

Love, along with four other former patients, has filed a complaint with the Quebec Human Rights Commission claiming that Narconon Trois Rivières exploited their disability – drug addiction – in getting them in the program and having them do manual labour. Also named in the complaint are the Church of Scientology International and Narconon International.
 
Love also plans to attend a protest outside Narconon Trois Rivières on April 29 – even if its staff and residents have moved on to other locations.
 
csolyom@montrealgazette.com
 
© Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette


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Post by: mefree on April 19, 2012, 22:34
Fantastic article!

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Lacour, of the public health agency, said that following several complaints, Narconon Trois Rivières has been more upfront recently about its ideology. “They are no longer hiding the fact they are inspired by Scientology, but they are not there to recruit,” Lacour said.

Love disagrees, and says he believes that on top of providing new recruits to the church, Narconon, which has 50 centres in 22 countries, funnels money to it. Since 2005, when the centre in Trois Rivières opened, Love calculated it had treated 720 patients and earned more than $16 million, much of which went to church executives in the form of salaries, and donations to the church.

Love has received leaked emails that point to the close relationship between the Church of Scientology in Montreal and Narconon Trois Rivières.

Love, along with four other former patients, has filed a complaint with the Quebec Human Rights Commission claiming that Narconon Trois Rivières exploited their disability – drug addiction – in getting them in the program and having them do manual labour. Also named in the complaint are the Church of Scientology International and Narconon International.

Hiring new graduates is a form of recruitment. 
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Post by: Intelligence on April 19, 2012, 23:14
Story has now been published online right across Canada and will be in tomorrow mornings
Newspapers. The Vancouver Sun is HUGE :) :) :)

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Quebec+tells+concerning+conduct+drug+treatment+facility/6488358/story.html

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/Quebec+tells+concerning+conduct+drug+treatment+facility/6488332/story.html

http://www2.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=6488332
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Post by: mefree on April 19, 2012, 23:18
Story has now been published online right across Canada and will be in tomorrow mornings
Newspapers. The Vancouver Sun is HUGE :) :) :)


Awesome to see this news spreading! 
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Post by: ethercat on April 19, 2012, 23:23
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Being forced to yell at an ashtray for hours on end – “Stand up, ashtray!” “Thank you.” “Sit back down, ashtray!” – also left him confused and frustrated. But it was when Love realized that the rehab centre inspired by the teachings of Scientology was actually putting vulnerable addicts’ health at risk – and that he had become a part of the machinery – that he decided to get out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SotPfdSJ7Qk
 
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Then come the personality and IQ tests, performed at regular intervals on patients, and the interrogation by an Ethics Officer to make sure a patient, or “student” as Narconon calls them, is not an undercover reporter.

The Ethics Officer can't tell when the "student" will later become a reporter, though.   :D
 
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The ashtray routine was just one of several training routines Love says are designed to make students accept they are being controlled, and teach them how to control others.

In another routine, two students were put in a room and repeatedly ordered each other to go to a wall, touch a wall, pick up a bottle, put it down, etc. The exercise could last hours, or several days, but until students were deemed to have completed it they couldn’t move on, Love said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7xiY54d96M

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When patients complained to parents who were paying the fees, staff members would convince them that it was normal they should want to leave, but that for their own good they had to complete the program.

We've heard that from parents who've come on TP before, too.
 
Is there any chance Canada will shut down the other 2 in Canada, as a result of NN TR being shut down?
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Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 20, 2012, 00:08
This is wonderful!!
ps: we gotta talk to David about Fair Use law and  only posting a snippet of the article, thereby encouragng people to go to the original so the news source sees that people are reading the article! Stats or stats!
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Post by: Intelligence on April 20, 2012, 00:25
LOL - Snipit it is  :)
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Post by: ethercat on April 20, 2012, 00:25
I clicked the link a couple of extra times.   ;)

Ah, ok, I'm getting silly, time for bed.   wO:)zzzz
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Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 20, 2012, 00:31
LOL - Snipit it is  :)

Love you, David!  \--O--/
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Post by: Intelligence on April 20, 2012, 00:45
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Is there any chance Canada will shut down the other 2 in Canada, as a result of NN TR being shut down?

There is ONLY one other that we know of in Canada in Alberta. A house that treats 4-6 patients.
In Vancouver, BC, their websites say there is one, but this is untrue. My Anon contact there, went
to the address and it's only a referral place for NNTR,..., LOL. CBC TV National News called them.
No Narconon.

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Post by: Intelligence on April 20, 2012, 01:44
Montreal Anons "Drone" aircraft surveilance over NN TR about 2 weeks ago. Video was so funny.

The NN TR protest on April 29th will be like no other :)

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Post by: ethercat on April 20, 2012, 09:30
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Is there any chance Canada will shut down the other 2 in Canada, as a result of NN TR being shut down?

There is ONLY one other that we know of in Canada in Alberta. A house that treats 4-6 patients.
In Vancouver, BC, their websites say there is one, but this is untrue. My Anon contact there, went
to the address and it's only a referral place for NNTR,..., LOL. CBC TV National News called them.
No Narconon.

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Great!  So there's only a tiny one left in Canada, and then Canada will be Narconon-free.  What a wonderful phrase - Narconon-free! 

Is there anyone near Alberta to work on shutting that one down? 
123 Woodside Cir SW, Calgary, AB T2W 3K1, Canada

It's a house in a residential neighborhood, wonder how the neighbors like having it in their community?

And their website is Copyright NN Int, if that means anything to anyone.   ;)
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Post by: Intelligence on April 20, 2012, 14:57
Tony Ortega - Village Voice
 http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/04/david_edgar_love_scientology_by_the_balls.php

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When I talked to David Edgar Love by Skype at his Montreal apartment Wednesday evening, he sounded exhausted -- he'd had only an hour of sleep in the past two days.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/04/david_edgar_love_scientology_by_the_balls.php

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Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 20, 2012, 16:24
Good show, David!!

ps: ethercat needs you to contact her asap.
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Post by: Intelligence on April 20, 2012, 17:09
My Skype is on.


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Post by: Intelligence on April 26, 2012, 15:57
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http://www.examiner.com/article/scientology-rehab-narconon-deaths-government-forces-closure


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"Right now, they're taking away all of the center's records, confidential files they don't want anyone to see because of the crooked way they manage," said Odette Poulin.

Full Story:
http://www.examiner.com/article/scientology-rehab-narconon-deaths-government-forces-closure

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Post by: Mary_McConnell on April 26, 2012, 17:34
(http://i45.tinypic.com/nbt7oj.jpg)

http://www.examiner.com/article/scientology-rehab-narconon-deaths-government-forces-closure


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"Right now, they're taking away all of the center's records, confidential files they don't want anyone to see because of the crooked way they manage," said Odette Poulin.

Full Story:
http://www.examiner.com/article/scientology-rehab-narconon-deaths-government-forces-closure

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One of your best, David!
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Post by: Intelligence on April 26, 2012, 18:27
http://www.examiner.com/article/scientology-rehab-narconon-deaths-government-forces-closure

I guess the USA Press liked it too ;D

 WOW!!! The Associated Press in the USA read this and I just finished an interview with them.

 They're doing an Expose on AH and other USA NN's.
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Post by: mefree on April 26, 2012, 19:07
Fantastic, David! Good work.
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Post by: ethercat on April 26, 2012, 21:54
   
           :::-O-:::

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Post by: Intelligence on April 26, 2012, 22:06
   
           :::-O-:::

I've been to a lot of protests, but the one this Sat and Sun at NN TR will be quite
an emotional time for many. This one is more of a emembrance of those not with
us anymore and those who are scarred for life.

I s[poke to Eastern and Californian Media today and CBC TV have confirmed they
will be at the protest for a couple hours. They usually NEVER let us know beforehand.

But they also KNOW - they KNOW :.{....
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Post by: ethercat on April 27, 2012, 08:39
   
           :::-O-:::

I've been to a lot of protests, but the one this Sat and Sun at NN TR will be quite
an emotional time for many. This one is more of a emembrance of those not with
us anymore and those who are scarred for life.

I s[poke to Eastern and Californian Media today and CBC TV have confirmed they
will be at the protest for a couple hours. They usually NEVER let us know beforehand.

But they also KNOW - they KNOW :.{....

The cheer was more for the AP article - definitely not cheering for the circumstances that are the reason for the article.  My apologies if that was taken the wrong way.   :-[