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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon in Georgia => Topic started by: SocialTransparency on February 21, 2013, 22:30

Title: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 21, 2013, 22:30

 It has been brought to my attention the current acting executive director for Narconon of Georgia,one Jeannie Trahant may if fact not meet State of Georgia certification requirements.

 
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The counselor certification she claims is the same one that many Narconon staff members fraudulently obtained through the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC), which isn't even a recognized credential here in the state of Georgia.

 Correct me if I am wrong,but does not the license holder need to meet state requirements? For that matter who IS the current Narconon of Georgia license to operate holder? Disgraced former ED of Narconon of Georgia Ms. Mary Rieser was to my knowledge the original license holder.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 21, 2013, 22:42
Excellent point.  Karla Taylor will need to know she is a ccdc so she can suspend the cert. 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on February 21, 2013, 23:00
 ^^or__
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 21, 2013, 23:05
Excellent point.  Karla Taylor will need to know she is a ccdc so she can suspend the cert.

 The NAFC phones will be a ringin tomorrow I guarantee!

 ^^or__
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 21, 2013, 23:28
And no Jeannie, Kent McGregors Pita Pocket certs dont count either.  To think this molester is issuing CADC and DBAE certs infuriates me.   

Does this make me a bitter apostate?
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 21, 2013, 23:35
And no Jeannie, Kent McGregors Pita Pocket certs dont count either.  To think this molester is issuing CADC and DBAE certs infuriates me.   

Does this make me a bitter apostate?

 Bitter? Could be. Apostate? I'd wear that moniker proudly ET >:D
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on February 21, 2013, 23:49

 It has been brought to my attention the current acting executive director for Narconon of Georgia,one Jeannie Trahant may if fact not meet State of Georgia certification requirements.

 
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The counselor certification she claims is the same one that many Narconon staff members fraudulently obtained through the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC), which isn't even a recognized credential here in the state of Georgia.

 Correct me if I am wrong,but does not the license holder need to meet state requirements? For that matter who IS the current Narconon of Georgia license to operate holder? Disgraced former ED of Narconon of Georgia Ms. Mary Rieser was to my knowledge the original license holder.

The facility needs to meet state requirements, and is required to apply for a new license if the owner changes.

Here are the Drug Abuse Treatment rules:
http://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/imported/vgn/images/portal/cit_1210/55/30/154677692DrugAbuseTreatmentRulesDec20091.pdf

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(d) License is nontransferable. A license or provisional license to operate a program is
nontransferable for a change of location or governing body. Each license or provisional
license shall be returned to the department in the following cases: changes in location,
governing body, program closure or the license is suspended or revoked.

There are other requirements, as well.

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290-4-2-.06 Accreditation. The department may issue a license to a program that provides proof of accreditation by an accreditation agency approved by the department, if the accreditation agency's requirements are substantially equivalent or more stringent than the requirements of these rules. The license may be issued without an on-site visit by the department, however, the department reserves the right to inspect accredited programs on a sample validation basis or whenever there is reason to believe that the requirements of these rules are not being met. Provided however, any denial, suspension, or revocation of such accreditation shall result in similar licensure actions, and the governing body shall be required to apply for a new license. For purpose of this rule, proof of accreditation shall require a copy of the program's most recent accreditation report together with any supplemental recommendations or reports.  Such reports shall be submitted to the department whenever received by a program or whenever requested by the department.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: CoolHand on February 21, 2013, 23:53
I was thinking earlier today that this forum probably has the most activity IRL that produces results per active member.  It's kind of like a (not so) little turbo charger - taking a 3 liter six cylinder engine and having enough psi to generate 600 horsepower!  You guys rock.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on February 21, 2013, 23:58
I was thinking earlier today that this forum probably has the most activity IRL that produces results per active member.  It's kind of like a (not so) little turbo charger - taking a 3 liter six cylinder engine and having enough psi to generate 600 horsepower!  You guys rock.

Thank you, Luke!  I think that's one of the nicest things anyone has said about us yet.   :OV--*

Oh, wait:   oOoToOo5  since you are one of us, after all.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 22, 2013, 10:32

  Multiple state of Georgia DCH departments have been notified as to possible Narconon drug and alcohol counselor certification discrepancies.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 22, 2013, 16:11
This is great news.  You cant replace a Director without going through the proper procedure.  If the person being replaced isnt qualified....sorry Charlie.  Mary resigning may have been the nail in the coffin for them without them even realizing it.  Jeannie is getting investigated as well to see if she legimately meets all the requirements to be a CCDC.  One question, is she licensed in GA? NO. CASE CLOSED.  Hand over the cert. 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on February 22, 2013, 18:43
I was thinking earlier today that this forum probably has the most activity IRL that produces results per active member.  It's kind of like a (not so) little turbo charger - taking a 3 liter six cylinder engine and having enough psi to generate 600 horsepower!  You guys rock.

Thanks, Luke. That's very nice feedback, and what EC said. You and Eric are a big part of this forum now.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 23, 2013, 10:40
I was thinking earlier today that this forum probably has the most activity IRL that produces results per active member.  It's kind of like a (not so) little turbo charger - taking a 3 liter six cylinder engine and having enough psi to generate 600 horsepower!  You guys rock.

Thanks, Luke. That's very nice feedback, and what EC said. You and Eric are a big part of this forum now.

DITTO!!
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 24, 2013, 08:22
 :-thanks-:  Its an honor to be part of the Tipping Point family. 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on February 24, 2013, 09:49

  Multiple state of Georgia DCH departments have been notified as to possible Narconon drug and alcohol counselor certification discrepancies.

Very nice.  I'd love to have seen their reactions when they got that.  They were probably hoping they were done with NN Ga. for a while, until the appeal gets resolved.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on February 24, 2013, 09:51
:-thanks-:  Its an honor to be part of the Tipping Point family.

It's an honor to have you and Luke here.  Things have really picked up here since you two arrived.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 24, 2013, 09:59

The facility needs to meet state requirements, and is required to apply for a new license if the owner changes.

Here are the Drug Abuse Treatment rules:
http://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/imported/vgn/images/portal/cit_1210/55/30/154677692DrugAbuseTreatmentRulesDec20091.pdf

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(d) License is nontransferable.


 The question is WHO would have stepped up to the plate and applied for another license? From what information has been made available online Ms.Trahant does not appear to meet state licensing requirements. Hence the recent DCH communique! If application for a license has been made,what venue would one need to delve into to get this information?
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 24, 2013, 10:15
You can look at a blank application, it may state that it needs to go to the zoning board for public comment or something like that.  I dont know that an application would be made public if it just got submitted.  Mary may not have officially resigned with the state yet also.  It may have been just a PR move while she is still technically the Director in the states eyes.  Defintitely a call to them to inform them of the change would be in order. 

We are helping them be in compliance with the law and should be paid for our efforts....
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 24, 2013, 10:15
:-thanks-:  Its an honor to be part of the Tipping Point family.

It's an honor to have you and Luke here.  Things have really picked up here since you two arrived.

PS Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on February 24, 2013, 11:23
You can look at a blank application, it may state that it needs to go to the zoning board for public comment or something like that.  I dont know that an application would be made public if it just got submitted.  Mary may not have officially resigned with the state yet also.  It may have been just a PR move while she is still technically the Director in the states eyes.  Defintitely a call to them to inform them of the change would be in order. 

The license applications are available through open records; I had copies of them in an open records request I made in late 2008.

But, you could be right about the resignation - that could just be something they told the media to get them off their backs.  It would be interesting to know how this will play out.  Since the license is cancelled when the "governing body" changes, if Mary R. has in fact resigned, does that make the license appeal moot?  If the appeal is still going on, does that mean that Mary R. has not resigned?

The other day I was passing by NN Ga, and there was a little child (4-5 yo, maybe?) outside, along with 3 or 4 other people, adults, all male.  I had heard that Mary R. was bringing her grandchild to NN with her.  Was the child I saw Mary R.'s grandchild?  And if so, would that indicate that she is still somehow involved? 

And my rant, why on earth is a child at NN?  Why should a child be exposed to that environment??   -^#^-!

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We are helping them be in compliance with the law and should be paid for our efforts....

Yeah, seems like we're picking up a lot of slack for other people who aren't doing their jobs but are getting paid... 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 24, 2013, 12:05
Pending applications i meant.  I will PM you on the other stuff.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 25, 2013, 09:32

 A second DCH department has as of 2/25/2013 responded to receipt of information in regard to possible certifications discrepancies. That information has been forwarded to the proper department.

 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: BigBeard on February 25, 2013, 10:59

 A second DCH department has as of 2/25/2013 responded to receipt of information in regard to possible certifications discrepancies. That information has been forwarded to the proper department.
 

Hopefully this information will actually be acted on, and not get dumped into the "round toit" bin.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 25, 2013, 12:20
 This is directed at Coolhand and 10oreo. Please have a look at this material if you can. With what knowledge you two may have,please state how there may be certification issues and why you believe that to be so.

 I can then craft a more detailed complaint and or letter of concern. I am currently being asked questions by the DCH as to be more specific. Which I feel is a good thing. The below links were provided to me as guidance in this effort.

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Go to :  The Georgia Department of Community Health (DCH)
 
Choose: Divisions
 
Choose: Healthcare Facility Regulation
or
go to: dch.georgia.gov/hfr
 
The sight then gives this information and link:
 
The official rules for the following programs are on record with the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office at http://rules.sos.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/page.cgi?d=1. Please note  that where  PDF versions of the rules are provided on this web site, they are unofficial copies of the rules that have been reformatted and compiled for the convenience of the public by Department of Community Health. More PDF copies of the rules will be posted at a later date.
 
And or this link below
 
 Drug Abuse Treatment
 

 Link.

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http://rules.sos.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/page.cgi?g=DEPARTMENT_OF_COMMUNITY_HEALTH%2FHEALTHCARE_FACILITY_REGULATION%2FGENERAL_LICENSING_AND_ENFORCEMENT_REQUIREMENTS%2Findex.html&d=1.

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http://www.hhs.gov/partnerships/resources/fbci_counselor_standards.pdf

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http://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/imported/vgn/images/portal/cit_1210/2/58/180037262Drug_Initial_Licensure_Packet_12-29-11.pdf
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 25, 2013, 16:52
page 76 of hhs.gov

Pretty sure that sums it all up.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 25, 2013, 18:19
this is from the license application:

Clinical Director: A licensed physician, licensed practitioner or a certified addiction counselor appointed by
the governing body and responsible for all treatment provided.  Did they appoint Jeannie?
On-site manager: The on-site clinician designated responsibility for the drug treatment and education
provided at this location.

Who is the physician, licensed practitioner or certified addiction counselor?
The on-site clinician?

Also, what ASAM level do they think they are providing?  Does the Narconon Program fit under intensive outpatient or outpatient at all?  It shouldnt.  It is not an industry accepted treatment.  They lied about being inpatient and their CCDC certs are under investigation as they dont have the necessary requirements to call themselves CCDC or CADC.  Kent's organization is a fraud to certify NN staff as CADC to confuse state regulator agencies into thinking they are state accepted certs and he actually does not possess the qualifications to do this sort of activity any longer.  There's a lot to his fraud and abuse, not really for this thread, but the way in which they got their CCDC's, CADC's is being vigorously investigated and most, if not all of these CCDC certs are being revoked.  If that's not enough to postpone the license pending further investigation then GA is a sad state.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on February 25, 2013, 20:04
this is from the license application:

Clinical Director: A licensed physician, licensed practitioner or a certified addiction counselor appointed by
the governing body and responsible for all treatment provided.  Did they appoint Jeannie?
On-site manager: The on-site clinician designated responsibility for the drug treatment and education
provided at this location.

Who is the physician, licensed practitioner or certified addiction counselor?
The on-site clinician?

Also, what ASAM level do they think they are providing?  Does the Narconon Program fit under intensive outpatient or outpatient at all?  It shouldnt.  It is not an industry accepted treatment.  They lied about being inpatient and their CCDC certs are under investigation as they dont have the necessary requirements to call themselves CCDC or CADC.  Kent's organization is a fraud to certify NN staff as CADC to confuse state regulator agencies into thinking they are state accepted certs and he actually does not possess the qualifications to do this sort of activity any longer.  There's a lot to his fraud and abuse, not really for this thread, but the way in which they got their CCDC's, CADC's is being vigorously investigated and most, if not all of these CCDC certs are being revoked.  If that's not enough to postpone the license pending further investigation then GA is a sad state.

 When you state they,meaning the governing body,are we talking about the Narconon of Georgia board of directors? THEY are a dentist,an accountant of some sort and another guy that has some on line rehab referral websites.

 To my understanding all of those board members go to the local Scientology church. Would those individuals be the ones that vouch for the certification and credibility of the counselors/staff during the licensing application process? I seriously have to take into consideration this same Narconon of Georgia board of directors also supported and validated ex-ED Mary Rieser in a very public fashion. We all know how that ended don't we!

 As I review the state license application,then cross reference it with state requirements per http://www.hhs.gov/partnerships/resources/fbci_counselor_standards.pdf   page 76 which apparently the state of Georgia uses as a guideline, then couple this with revelation of possible certification improprieties, I'm now seriously concerned. I would be very surprised if in fact the state DCH vets the current N of GA staff in order to either validate or rebuke certification qualifications and how those qualifications were gained.

 That is the crux of the issue. Where is the documented proof in writing from multiple sources that certification requirements are or have been met and I don't mean by fellow Narconon employee's for Narconon employee's or those that have an inside track in providing those certs. I have never see any,have any of you?
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 26, 2013, 23:12

 A second DCH department has as of 2/25/2013 responded to receipt of information in regard to possible certifications discrepancies. That information has been forwarded to the proper department.

Good work, ST!
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Gracie on February 27, 2013, 14:25
Someone asked about ASAM levels...
Someone asked about what ASAM Level nn would use....

[url]http://paulearley.net/ASAM-PPC-Articles/asam-textbook-chapter-4-5/Levels-of-Care.html/url]

Dr. Earley is an Georgia physician who treats substance abuse.

I would think NN would be at a much higher level than ASAM I, which was referred to in some of the recent depositions. ASAM I is generally 3 to 9 hours weekly. If they are providing detox (medical) I think it requires much more medical attention using the Detox criteria.

Additionally, I would think using ANY of the ASAM Dimensions would require a program to be able to address co-existing mental health or physical disorders!
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on February 27, 2013, 15:31
They would be level II.  Thats part of the scam though, they dont do the things you mention but have these licensed people sign up on the license or come in and sign the folders and not really do anything.  Its an administrative exercies so they are in compliance with the law, except its fake. 
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on February 27, 2013, 19:12
They would be level II.  Thats part of the scam though, they dont do the things you mention but have these licensed people sign up on the license or come in and sign the folders and not really do anything.  Its an administrative exercies so they are in compliance with the law, except its fake.

In other words, their treatment record documentation is fraudulent.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 11, 2013, 09:17

 Does anyone have any current information regarding certifications Jeannie Trahant has or had in order to meet state of Georgia requirements within the drug and alcohol rehabilitation field?

 As the NAFC having suspended and or revoked multiple individuals CCDC certifications held by those under the Narconon International umbrella, I need some real time information as to how the revocation's are playing out in Georgia!

 The state of Georgia DCH is more than likely NOT aware of this unfolding situation. For what it is worth, the revocation of former Narconon of Georgia executive director Mary Rieser,s CCDC has been made known to the state of Georgia,s DCH.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: CoolHand on March 11, 2013, 09:46

 Does anyone have any current information regarding certifications Jeannie Trahant has or had in order to meet state of Georgia requirements within the drug and alcohol rehabilitation field?

 As the NAFC having suspended and or revoked multiple individuals CCDC certifications held by those under the Narconon International umbrella, I need some real time information as to how the revocation's are playing out in Georgia!

 The state of Georgia DCH is more than likely NOT aware of this unfolding situation. For what it is worth, the revocation of former Narconon of Georgia executive director Mary Rieser,s CCDC has been made known to the state of Georgia,s DCH.

Jeannie was reported to the NAFC, but either she never got her certification or she let it lapse and is no longer valid either way.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: ethercat on March 11, 2013, 21:34
Someone asked about ASAM levels...
Someone asked about what ASAM Level nn would use....

http://paulearley.net/ASAM-PPC-Articles/asam-textbook-chapter-4-5/Levels-of-Care.html (http://paulearley.net/ASAM-PPC-Articles/asam-textbook-chapter-4-5/Levels-of-Care.html)

Dr. Earley is an Georgia physician who treats substance abuse.

I would think NN would be at a much higher level than ASAM I, which was referred to in some of the recent depositions. ASAM I is generally 3 to 9 hours weekly. If they are providing detox (medical) I think it requires much more medical attention using the Detox criteria.

Additionally, I would think using ANY of the ASAM Dimensions would require a program to be able to address co-existing mental health or physical disorders!

I believe Narconon of Georgia was licensed by DCH at ASAM Level 1.  They attempted, in 2006, to surreptitiously go to 3.5, but DCH said no, Mary Rieser made excuses as usual, and DCH revoked their license.  NN appealed, and won (somehow).  Just before the current license was revoked (which is now under appeal, as far as I know), they obtained a license for the sauna part of the program that was ASAM 2-D. 

This information is in the DCH documents, which I admit are in rather quite a mess, and really should be organized.  And they will be, eventually.     :)

DCH open records request pertaining to Narconon of Georgia (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10057.0.html)
DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.0.html)

 ===|8OOOo
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 11, 2013, 22:26
 :-thanks-:, ethercat. So gld you find a moment to provide the answer to the ASAM question. I am so brain fried these last 2 days that I couldn't get up the energy to remember where to find those documents to then even try to look for the ASAM level info.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on March 26, 2013, 22:33
NNGA ethics officer interview:
http://s243.photobucket.com/user/narcononofga/media/EthicsOfficerInterview.mp4.html

Trigger point massage, anyone?
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff231/narcononofga/Picture008.jpg

Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: CoolHand on March 26, 2013, 22:52
That was Larry Chorvas.  He passed away not too long after this interview.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 27, 2013, 00:53
That was Larry Chorvas.  He passed away not too long after this interview.

There are some posts elsewhere on the forum regarding his death and about the guy who took over his job as ethic officer. He looks very familiar to me in that video. Was he ever on staff in NY?

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Deceased Information

DECEASED:
Larry Lewis Chorvas

DATE OF DEATH:
Thursday, October 21, 2010

DATE OF FUNERAL:
Sunday, November 7, 2010

TIME OF FUNERAL:
6:00 PM

PLACE OF FUNERAL:
Church of Scientology of Georgia

PLACE OF BURIAL:


VISITATION INFORMATION:


DONATIONS:
Church of Scientology of Georgia for the Volunteer Ministers 4588 Winters Chapel Rd Atlanta GA 30360

   

Please contact Fischer's at (678) 514-1000 to send a message to the family.
OBITUARY:
Larry L Chorvas, 64, died October 21, 2010 at home in Doraville, Ga after a 14 month battle with cancer. He was born May 18, 1946 in Rhinebeck, NY to Ruth Wurster Chorvas and Elias Louis Chorvas who predeceased him. He spent most of his life in Poughkeepsie and the last six years in Atlanta Ga. Larry leaves behind, his wife Linda, his children Larry Jr., Wanda Leigh , Steven, Craig, Christopher, two step-children, Dana and Aaron Nuccitelli, 19 grandchildren, and 10 great-grandchildren. He is further survived by his brother Jack Briggs and wife Millie, sister Cecilia Mileo and several nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by a son, Mathew, a wife Jacqueline Silvester Chorvas, a brother Richard Briggs and a sister Gloria Jean Pottenburg. He has been a member of the Church of Scientology for the last 23 years and was a staff member until his retirement in 2009. He was a member of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights and the Volunteer Ministers. A memorial service will be held on November 7th at 6p.m. at The Church of Scientology, 4588 Winters Chapel Road, Atlanta, Ga. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made in memory of Larry, to the Church of Scientology of Georgia for the Volunteer Ministers. Sign the online guest-book at www.fischerfuneralcare.com
http://www.fischerfuneralcare.com/guestbook3.php?funeralID=85


Looks much older here on his facebook. Cancer can do that. Wonder if he failed to get appropriate medical care in time....
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/c47.0.224.224/s160x160/22273_1240243043725_5752836_n.jpg)

Rest in Peace, Larry.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 27, 2013, 09:10
 I ran into this individual when the CCHR had its display set up in a downtown Atlanta hotel. After viewing the display,I had several questions and this gentleman answered them to the best of his ability. He was cordial when doing so.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Witnessman on March 27, 2013, 09:11
ST and all:  Thanks for your extensive efforts to bring the licensing authorities up to speed with regard to the complete, utter, systemic and still ongoing nature of Narconon of Georgia's fraudulent activities.

Every single time I pause long enough to think about this issue, I am astounded and infuriated anew that these criminals have been allowed free rein to exploit the public and inflict harm on vulnerable, at risk kids for all these years.  Ultimately, the issue comes down to gross ineptitude and dereliction of duty versus actual widespread public corruption.  My vote (FWIW) is both.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on March 27, 2013, 18:55

Looks much older here on his facebook. Cancer can do that. Wonder if he failed to get appropriate medical care in time....
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/c47.0.224.224/s160x160/22273_1240243043725_5752836_n.jpg)

Rest in Peace, Larry.

I had actually seen him in other pictures prior to posting the video. He looked so different in the video, I didn't make the connection.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 27, 2013, 19:33
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150160069389291&set=a.431565509290.230737.68292324290&type=1

Looks like Mary is still the poster girl for Narconon of Georgia.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 27, 2013, 19:40
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150160069389291&set=a.431565509290.230737.68292324290&type=1

Looks like Mary is still the poster girl for Narconon of Georgia.

I guess you weren't around when we posted about that photo, and another like it, which was in the local newspaper. Also posted on NNGA's facebook , lol

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At Reaching For The Tipping Point Forum, we have DCH documents showing they were busted in Mar 2003, during an inspection of the facility, for illegal group home on the premises but cleared in June 2003! Here's a photo of a news article taken in July 2003 with the caption
"......Narconon of Georgia founder Mary Rieser look over material to help RESIDENTS.... "
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Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Witnessman on March 30, 2013, 23:09

I believe Narconon of Georgia was licensed by DCH at ASAM Level 1.  They attempted, in 2006, to surreptitiously go to 3.5, but DCH said no, Mary Rieser made excuses as usual, and DCH revoked their license.  NN appealed, and won (somehow).  Just before the current license was revoked (which is now under appeal, as far as I know), they obtained a license for the sauna part of the program that was ASAM 2-D. 

This information is in the DCH documents, which I admit are in rather quite a mess, and really should be organized.  And they will be, eventually.     :)

DCH open records request pertaining to Narconon of Georgia (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,10057.0.html)
DCH investigation of Narconon of Georgia and its own internal investigation (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,12083.0.html)


How and why NNGA wiggled out of the license revocation in 2006, only to then successfully cover up (from a governmental administrative oversight standpoint) the death of Patrick Desmond secondary to the illegally operated housing operation, and still manages to somehow remain open for business and operating to this very day, probably merits a serious public corruption investigation by the FBI. 

I don't know exactly how or what happened, but here is what I think is a big part of the story:

First of all, at that time, the Office of Regulatory Services, Health Care Regulation was part of the GA Department of Human Resources (it subsequently as part of a state agency reorganization became part of the Department of Community Health). 

Attorney Nina Edidin, whose actual employer was the GA Legal Services Office, rather than DHR, was assigned to and served as the top legal officer at ORS-HCR; and as such had primary responsible for the ORS-HCR's interpretation of the regulations applicable to health care facilities. Edidin was also aware (as apparently were others) of Narconon being Scientology and the fact that it was a sinister and frudulent scam of a rehab facility.

So, when the survey staff cited NNGA for operating an unlicensed sauna program, she and Carol Zarfiratos, the Director of the ORS-HCR, who was in charge of the surveyors and a very experienced, high quality and professional administrator, rightly decided that it was an ideal opportunity to revoke their license, shut them down, and put them out of business once and for all.

NNGA did not win the appeal.  Instead, someone in the chain of command, presumably from either Commissioner B.J. Walker’s office or Governor’s Sonny Perdue's office, sent down a mandate that the appeal was to be settled.

Why? 

A political fix, rather obviously.

I don't think this issue was very much fleshed out or perhaps hardly addressed at all (couldn't cover everything I suppose), but there is also this:
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/10A28641/10A28641-2-2012-02-17-DepositionOfNinaEdidin.pdf   

The current situation is NNGA's license was non-renewed based on evidence uncovered by the Desmonds' lawyers.  The appeal is pending and is awaiting the scheduling of a hearing. 

If someone wanted to contact Gov. Deal's office and/or DCH Commissioner David Cook's office about the travesty of the early 2007 settlement of the administrative appeal of NNGA's license revocation and suggest that nothing of that sort should happen again, it might be a worthwhile call to make.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on March 31, 2013, 00:01

If someone wanted to contact Gov. Deal's office and/or DCH Commissioner David Cook's office about the travesty of the early 2007 settlement of the administrative appeal of NNGA's license revocation and suggest that nothing of that sort should happen again, it might be a worthwhile call to make.

 Commissioner David Cook was contacted directly via telephone concerning Narconon of Georgia. He and or his personal staff did not have the professional courtesy to reply to questions or concerns! I lost what little respect I had for the State of Georgia,s DCH quite some time ago.

 My only hope is that local media will embarrass this agency into enforcing current codes and law. That line of thought in of itself is sad in my opinion. The local media has its own agenda. They have to sell those commercial spots you know!

 I find it rather amusing our local media claimed to have uncovered various things when many of us here on this board know otherwise! ::) But hey, you got to roll with whatever possible  positive exposure you can get.

 Where was the local media years ago when this whole mess could have been exposed? Guess it took a poor young fellows death to make the topic interesting enough for the media to give this sordid affair exposure. To be honest with any of you,had it not been for my involvement with this issue of Narconon, I would have never watched the local media,s coverage.

 I do not find sensationalism either interesting or good journalism.

 The DCH treats the citizenry of Georgia rather poorly in my experience. As Gov. Deal has gutted DCH finances via massive budget cuts,I dare say things will only get worse before they get better. Even if Narconon is denied licensing by the DCH,I still do not have much faith in the agency overall.

 If Narconon is an example in which to gauge the DCH,s effectiveness in enforcement of state law,I shudder to think what other entities under DCH oversight do that may be far worse than anything Narconon has done. Narconon is but a small part of a much bigger problem.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: Witnessman on March 31, 2013, 00:12
Yeah, the WSB-TV lady reporter was embarrassingly over-the-top in congratulating of herself.

BTW, my recollection of Edidin's deposition was pretty accurate.  The 2006 non-renewal and appeal were discussed very superficially.  See pages 26-36, 62-72, 81-83, 89-90. 

But at page 10, she did make a point of saying "there is no attorney-client privilege."
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on March 31, 2013, 08:45

If someone wanted to contact Gov. Deal's office and/or DCH Commissioner David Cook's office about the travesty of the early 2007 settlement of the administrative appeal of NNGA's license revocation and suggest that nothing of that sort should happen again, it might be a worthwhile call to make.

 Commissioner David Cook was contacted directly via telephone concerning Narconon of Georgia. He and or his personal staff did not have the professional courtesy to reply to questions or concerns! I lost what little respect I had for the State of Georgia,s DCH quite some time ago.

 My only hope is that local media will embarrass this agency into enforcing current codes and law. That line of thought in of itself is sad in my opinion. The local media has its own agenda. They have to sell those commercial spots you know!

 I find it rather amusing our local media claimed to have uncovered various things when many of us here on this board know otherwise! ::) But hey, you got to roll with whatever possible  positive exposure you can get.

 Where was the local media years ago when this whole mess could have been exposed? Guess it took a poor young fellows death to make the topic interesting enough for the media to give this sordid affair exposure. To be honest with any of you,had it not been for my involvement with this issue of Narconon, I would have never watched the local media,s coverage.

 I do not find sensationalism either interesting or good journalism.

 The DCH treats the citizenry of Georgia rather poorly in my experience. As Gov. Deal has gutted DCH finances via massive budget cuts,I dare say things will only get worse before they get better. Even if Narconon is denied licensing by the DCH,I still do not have much faith in the agency overall.

 If Narconon is an example in which to gauge the DCH,s effectiveness in enforcement of state law,I shudder to think what other entities under DCH oversight do that may be far worse than anything Narconon has done. Narconon is but a small part of a much bigger problem.

It's all very disappointing, isn't it? Thank goodness we have people like Lucas and Eric who are willing to blow the whistle.

The state agencies have acted as an enabler. Time and time again they have accepted Mary Rieser's lies and rubber-stamped her lame plans of correction.

The last really thorough state inspection at NNGA, that I'm aware of, happened in 2006 when DCH wanted to shut them down. Since that time, DHR ORS and DCH HFR have looked the other way.

We have a severe problem in our state with corruption of public officials, school boards, and police. The Feds seem to be making an effort to clean it up. They surely have their work cut out for them.  The situation has gone unchecked for far too long.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on May 28, 2016, 12:35
Inquiring minds need to know. What happened to Jeannie Trahant?
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: SocialTransparency on June 02, 2016, 10:43
Inquiring minds need to know. What happened to Jeannie Trahant?
Last I heard she was somewhere in bayou country @ some narCONon.
Title: Re: Jeannie Trahant. Current acting ED,Narconon of Georgia
Post by: mefree on June 02, 2016, 15:47
Inquiring minds need to know. What happened to Jeannie Trahant?
Last I heard she was somewhere in bayou country @ some narCONon.

Calls for a little ditty.
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