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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon in Oklahoma => Topic started by: News Thetan on March 19, 2013, 05:06

Title: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: News Thetan on March 19, 2013, 05:06
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18 March 2013, 11:15 pm

ASHER, Oklahoma - Several parents say they are concerned over an anti-drug presentation at their school. The organization making the presentation and handing out literature is the controversial Narconon Arrowhead, which News 9 has been investigating here for several months.

Last week, Narconon made the anti-drug presentation in Asher. But parents across Oklahoma have contacted News 9 upset about this very thing.

The Asher parents say they have no issues with the school or its administration, but are concerned about Narconon's ties with the Church of Scientology.

When the Asher parent, who asked we not use her name, first saw the coloring book her kindergartner brought home from school she thought nothing of it.

"(It) gives a good drug free message," she said.

Then she saw a message on Facebook from a friend who was concerned and researched the name on the front of the book: Narconon.

The drug rehab clinic in Lake Eufaula is based on the teachings of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

"We just believe that Scientology shouldn't be allowed in our school system," said the Asher mother. "If Christianity isn't, why is Scientology?"

Terry Grissom, the superintendent for Asher schools says they were not aware of Narconon's ties to the Church of Scientology until parents contacted them. Grissom says they chose the group's drug free presentation because they were free. Others typically charge.

More with video at  http://www.newson6.com/story/21676364/asher-parents-concerned-over-anti-drug-presentation-at-school-by-narconon?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8652877
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: mefree on March 19, 2013, 18:26
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Terry Grissom, the superintendent for Asher schools says they were not aware of Narconon's ties to the Church of Scientology until parents contacted them. Grissom says they chose the group's drug free presentation because they were free. Others typically charge.

It's good to see these parents getting involved. The schools need to do a better job of vetting groups wanting to speak with the schoolkids.

Here's the Narconon elementary school curriculum:
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1212/ELEMENTARY.pdf
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 19, 2013, 19:26
Yes.  It is based on scientology scripture.  Who do they think they are fooling?
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 19, 2013, 19:29
Ulterior motive:  get scientology basics into kids head at an early age and get them reaching for the tech.  Make no mistake about it parents.  The info, demonstrations, branding in coloring books is all designed to get your kids into and thinking scientology.  Im all for preventing kids from doing drugs, but lets call this what it is and let the school honestly decide if it wants religion in schools.
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: ethercat on March 19, 2013, 20:17
"We just believe that Scientology shouldn't be allowed in our school system," said the Asher mother. "If Christianity isn't, why is Scientology?"

Good point.

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Terry Grissom, the superintendent for Asher schools says they were not aware of Narconon's ties to the Church of Scientology until parents contacted them.

Wonder what kind of a rock Grissom lives under.
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: CoolHand on March 19, 2013, 22:22
Wrote a short post about this here: http://www.haveyoutoldall.com/narconon-drug-education/

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A few things stuck out for me. First was that the story includes the full elementary school and high school curriculum sets provided by Narconon. In those, they claim that a number of their staff are Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors (CCDC’s), but recent news shows that to no longer be true because their certifications have either been revoked or are pending suspension currently.

The Narconon spokesperson (John Batinas) said it had nothing do to with Scientology, but as I laid out in the book, the drug prevention program offered by Narconon is directly based on several L. Ron Hubbard references in Dianetics and Scientology. In fact, the concepts aren’t found in anything BUT Dianetics and Scientology.

Over the summer there was an interview with the current head of Narconon Arrowhead’s drug education, Niko Bain, that ran exclusively on the same network of this story, I believe. I remember having the same zeal as both Niko and John, since I held both of their positions for several years. Gary Smith must be on a “handling” at Flag in Clearwater or in Los Angeles to have Batinas responding to multiple reporters’ inquiries, either that or he is on a strategic planning mission with senior members of the Church of Scentology’s Office of Special Affaris (OSA) trying to figure out how to survive the shitstorm they have created for themselves.

A word of advice for all of them: Open your eyes and come clean. It is wonderfully therapeutic and happens to be the right thing to do. Protecting a criminal organization or activity is not helping people.
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: mefree on March 19, 2013, 22:37
Wrote a short post about this here: http://www.haveyoutoldall.com/narconon-drug-education/

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A few things stuck out for me. First was that the story includes the full elementary school and high school curriculum sets provided by Narconon. In those, they claim that a number of their staff are Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors (CCDC’s), but recent news shows that to no longer be true because their certifications have either been revoked or are pending suspension currently.

The Narconon spokesperson (John Batinas) said it had nothing do to with Scientology, but as I laid out in the book, the drug prevention program offered by Narconon is directly based on several L. Ron Hubbard references in Dianetics and Scientology. In fact, the concepts aren’t found in anything BUT Dianetics and Scientology.

Over the summer there was an interview with the current head of Narconon Arrowhead’s drug education, Niko Bain, that ran exclusively on the same network of this story, I believe. I remember having the same zeal as both Niko and John, since I held both of their positions for several years. Gary Smith must be on a “handling” at Flag in Clearwater or in Los Angeles to have Batinas responding to multiple reporters’ inquiries, either that or he is on a strategic planning mission with senior members of the Church of Scentology’s Office of Special Affaris (OSA) trying to figure out how to survive the shitstorm they have created for themselves.

A word of advice for all of them: Open your eyes and come clean. It is wonderfully therapeutic and happens to be the right thing to do. Protecting a criminal organization or activity is not helping people.

Very nice. Coming clean is the right thing to do!

By the way, here comes the Narconon PR spin.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1137142
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: CoolHand on March 19, 2013, 23:16

By the way, here comes the Narconon PR spin.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1137142

Ugh.  Desperation.  Niko is still in that phase where he firmly believes he is doing a great thing.  He doesn't realize the deep-rooted false information and Hubbard indoctrination he is spreading.  Meanwhile the organization is working on converting him into a full-fledged Scientologist.  Batinas, on the other hand, passed that state a while ago and is now fully into the arrogance phase of being a True Believer Scientologist.
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: 10oriocookies on March 19, 2013, 23:17
On the digitaljournal article they say they are poised to surpass last years delivery.  This translates to they are downstat.
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: BigBeard on March 20, 2013, 10:42
Information on the news articles and official report that got narCONon booted from California schools can be found over on WWP at: https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/link-to-official-report-and-sfgate-articles-that-got-narconon-booted-from-california-schools.95651/

Sounds like Oklahoma schools might want to add it to their 'required reading' list.

Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: cnhender on March 20, 2013, 16:31
This media exposure proves the public awareness of NN is on the rise.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 21, 2013, 16:43
On the digitaljournal article they say they are poised to surpass last years delivery.  This translates to they are downstat.

LOL!
Title: Re: Asher Parents Concerned Over Anti-Drug Presentation At School - NewsOn6 ... - News On 6
Post by: cnhender on March 21, 2013, 17:38
if I remember right they only made it 4 Oklahoma schools last year.  :D