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Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Scientology Front Groups => Topic started by: AnonLover on July 16, 2015, 08:29

Title: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 16, 2015, 08:29
Bouncing this discussion to it's own thread for further work...

LA County appears to have a new'ish online search website setup now that is free:
http://apps1.lavote.net/CLERK/FBN_Search.cfm
The problem is that they don't say who the name belongs to, and I want to track names that CoS has been flipping around for years. (It's one of their ways for pulling fast ones by shifting ownership of a name between various entities.)

Solution: Under the California Public Records Act, "Fictitous Business Name Statement" documents should be obtainable: http://www.lavote.net/contact-us/public-records-act-requests/make-a-public-records-act-request

WANTED: a list of Fictitious Business names to file on. Here's a starting point:

FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME | DOCUMENT NO. | LEGACY DOCUMENT NO. | DATE FILED

NARCONON CALIFORNIA | 2011018448 | - | 4/28/2011
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA | - | 20101781661 | 12/3/2010
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA | 2011018449 | - | 4/28/2011
CRIMINON INTERNATIONAL | - | 20101312993 | 9/16/2010
CRIMINON WEST US | - | 20101312993 | 9/16/2010
CRIMINON WEST US | - | 20101507863 | 10/21/2010
APPLIED SCHOLASTICS ACADEMY GREATER HOLLYWOOD | 2014023787 | - | 1/29/2014
DELPHI ACADEMY OF LOS ANGELES | 2013068628 | - | 4/5/2013
DELPHI ACADEMY OF SANTA MONICA | 2013176332 | - | 8/22/2013
HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINISTRATION INTERNATIONAL | 2012087757 | - | 5/9/2012
HUBBARD COLLEGE PRESS | 2012087757 | - | 5/9/2012
YOUTH FOR HUMAN RIGHTS INTERNATIONAL |  2012005806 | - | 1/11/2012

Question: Can anyone come up with other FBNs I missed?

Partial name searches I ran to gather the above list: Scientology, Scientologists, Religious Technology, Spiritual Technology, World Institute, Narconon, Halcyon Horizons, Criminon, Applied Scholastics, Delphi. IHelp & I=Help, Hubbard College, Way to Happiness, Truth About Drugs, Volunteer Ministers, Youth for Human Rights.

I also tried Fresh Start and Second Chance but the results were so broad it didn't look like anything was definitively cult related.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 16, 2015, 11:13
Search organization or owner :Narconon

That brings up all the fresh start fictitious names, 'doing business as ' names current and expired
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 16, 2015, 11:34
Search organization or owner :Narconon

That brings up all the fresh start fictitious names, 'doing business as ' names current and expired

Using this link?
http://apps1.lavote.net/CLERK/FBN_Search.cfm

I'm only getting the three I listed?
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: Mary_McConnell on July 16, 2015, 17:38
I'm sorry... the others are in San Diego County

https://arcc.sdcounty.ca.gov/Pages/fictitious.aspx

UPDATE
Maybe you should change the title to State of California, County Fictitious Business Name Registrations
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: DeathHamster on July 16, 2015, 21:45
L. Ron Hubbard Library is probably a FBN for Church of Spiritual Technology, but I have the feeling that they shuffle that one around.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 17, 2015, 11:35
Maybe you should change the title to State of California, County Fictitious Business Name Registrations

In California, fictitious business names for local businesses have to be registered at the county level. See:
http://www.business.ca.gov/StartaBusiness/RegisteringaBusiness/FictitiousBusinessName.aspx
Quote
A fictitious business name statement (D.b.a. or “doing business as”) must be registered with the county clerk of the county of the registrant’s principal place of business if the business is any of the following:
  • Sole proprietorship doing business under a name not containing the owner’s surname, such as Smith Accounting Services;
  • Partnership; or,
  • Corporation doing business under a name other than its legal name

Fictitious business names are not filed with the Secretary of State’s Office. There is no provision in California for registration, in a central registry at the state level, of fictitious business names. You must contact the city and/or county clerk and/or recorder where the principal place of business is located for information regarding filing or registering fictitious business names.

So each county handles that process in their own way. And I'm strictly focusing on the way Los Angeles county handles them. Because unlike other counties, they fail to publish who the real owner of the FBN is. My hope is, prodding them with record request(s) might get them to consider adding the owner info to their website listings.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 17, 2015, 11:42
L. Ron Hubbard Library is probably a FBN for Church of Spiritual Technology, but I have the feeling that they shuffle that one around.

I'm not finding L. Ron Hubbard Library in the search. What's the proper name on that one?

While looking for it with a partial search on Hubbard, I did find this one I had missed:

HUBBARD ACADEMY OF ADMONISTRATION LONG BEACH    | 2013170449 | - | 8/16/2013
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 17, 2015, 11:45
I'm sorry... the others are in San Diego County

https://arcc.sdcounty.ca.gov/Pages/fictitious.aspx

Well now that presents an interesting twist I hadn't noticed before. Narconon Southern California is registered as a FBN in LA County with an unknown owner ATM. And in SD County Narconon Southern California is listed as the owner of other FBNs.

I'm thinking that's probably NOT the way FBN registrations are supposed to work.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: BigBeard on July 17, 2015, 14:46
Maybe not, but it sure lets the Cof$ shuffle things around enough to create major confusion.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: DeathHamster on July 17, 2015, 16:57
I'm not finding L. Ron Hubbard Library in the search. What's the proper name on that one?
No period. It seems to be picky about that.

FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME    
DOCUMENT NO.
   
LEGACY DOCUMENT NO.
   
DATE FILED
L RON HUBBARD LIBRARY    
 2013264878
   
12/30/2013
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: DeathHamster on July 17, 2015, 22:17
HUBBARD ACADEMY OF ADMONISTRATION LONG BEACH    | 2013170449 | - | 8/16/2013
Staffed by Delphi gradumatates, no doubt.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: BigBeard on July 17, 2015, 23:19
Is 'Hubbard Academy of Administration' another face of 'Hubbard College of Administration'?? I can't find anything in the tax exempt listings for 'Hubbard Academy of Administration', but this is what the IRS has on 'Hubbard College of Administration'. Note this is one of the "Scientology-related entities" granted a Group Exemption by the 93 Closing Agreement:

SEARCH TERM: HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINIISTRATION
GEN: 4170
CLOSING AGREEMENT: HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINIISTRATION (HCA)

954302671 HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINIISTRATION 320 N VERMONT AVE LOS ANGELES CA 90004-3511 4170 03 6
364478242 HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINIISTRATION 67 SUMMIT AVE HACKENSACK NJ 07601-1262 4170 03 9 NEW YORK
593191516 HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINIISTRATION 1221 ROGERS ST STE A CLEARWATER FL 33756-5900 4170 03 9 FLORIDA
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 18, 2015, 08:13
Is 'Hubbard Academy of Administration' another face of 'Hubbard College of Administration'??
Good question. Hopefully the records request I'm gonna file for the FBN registration forms will give us that answer.

Some interesting things I learned about FBN registrations in Cali from: https://www.legalzoom.com/dba-state-requirements/california-dba.html

Updated list of LA County records found so far:

FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME | DOCUMENT NO. | LEGACY DOCUMENT NO. | DATE FILED

NARCONON CALIFORNIA | 2011018448 | - | 4/28/2011
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA | - | 20101781661 | 12/3/2010
NARCONON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA | 2011018449 | - | 4/28/2011
CRIMINON INTERNATIONAL | - | 20101312993 | 9/16/2010
CRIMINON WEST US | - | 20101312993 | 9/16/2010
CRIMINON WEST US | - | 20101507863 | 10/21/2010
APPLIED SCHOLASTICS ACADEMY GREATER HOLLYWOOD | 2014023787 | - | 1/29/2014
DELPHI ACADEMY OF LOS ANGELES | 2013068628 | - | 4/5/2013
DELPHI ACADEMY OF SANTA MONICA | 2013176332 | - | 8/22/2013
HUBBARD COLLEGE OF ADMINISTRATION INTERNATIONAL | 2012087757 | - | 5/9/2012
HUBBARD COLLEGE PRESS | 2012087757 | - | 5/9/2012
YOUTH FOR HUMAN RIGHTS INTERNATIONAL |  2012005806 | - | 1/11/2012
HUBBARD ACADEMY OF ADMINISTRATION LONG BEACH    | 2013170449 | - | 8/16/2013
L RON HUBBARD LIBRARY | 2013264878 | - | 12/30/2013
IAS ADMINISTRATIONS | 2012020616 | - | 2/6/2012
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 18, 2015, 10:00
Miscellaneous factoid: Los Angeles County is the only county in California with a population in excess of 1 million residents that does not provide owner/registrant name on Fictitious Business Name online search records.

Public interest reason for free dox? Check!
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 18, 2015, 10:16
Hmm. On second thought, these search result records seem to be likely suspects as well:

ABLE | 2011012487 | - | 4/20/2011
ABLE | 2015076657 | - | 3/25/2015
WISE ENTERPRISE | 2014253413 | - | 9/9/2014
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: mefree on July 18, 2015, 12:19
Hmm. On second thought, these search result records seem to be likely suspects as well:

ABLE | 2011012487 | - | 4/20/2011
ABLE | 2015076657 | - | 3/25/2015
WISE ENTERPRISE | 2014253413 | - | 9/9/2014

Good sleuthing, AL!
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 18, 2015, 13:59
Gawd... I keep finding more.

GALAXY PRESS    | 2015132759 | - | 5/18/2015
AUTHOR SERVICES, INC.    | 2015132757 | 5/18/2015
FRESH START | 2012022965 | - | 2/9/2012
FRESH START | 2013168712 | - | 8/13/2013
GOLDEN ERA PRODUCTIONS | 2014274402 | - | 9/26/2014
GOLDEN ERA STUDIOS | 2012257777 | - | 12/31/2012
NEW ERA PRODUCTIONS | 2011006310 | - | 4/13/2011
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: DeathHamster on July 18, 2015, 21:19
Galaxy Press is a funny one. For the longest time, it was a FBN for Author Services, but they recently incorporated one.
http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Galaxy_Press

I wonder if it's wholly owned by Church of Spiritual Technology like ASI per the IRS agreement?
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 19, 2015, 07:13
Solution: Under the California Public Records Act, "Fictitous Business Name Statement" documents should be obtainable: http://www.lavote.net/contact-us/public-records-act-requests/make-a-public-records-act-request
Drat. I missed the inclusion of FBNs att the bottom of ^^that page where it defines "The following items are not Public Records Act Requests"

So it looks like I'll have to get creative...

Rather than requesting the actual FBN statement/application dox, I'll try and get a summary list that includes owner/registrant.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: BigBeard on July 19, 2015, 08:27
If not the owner, you'd think whoever the contact is for notice of service would be listed. This sounds like some kind of west coast convulated "right to privacy" exercise.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 19, 2015, 11:24
If not the owner, you'd think whoever the contact is for notice of service would be listed. This sounds like some kind of west coast convulated "right to privacy" exercise.

I haven't seen "registered agent" on the FBN statement documents for all the other Cali counties I looked at. That's another difference between these filings and the actual secretary of state business registrations.

But it's definitely NOT a right to privacy issue because there are dozens of examples where other counties in the state either post an image of the filed document or at least provide the registrant/owner name in their online search results.

Also, California's open records law is a pretty comprehensive (compared to other states) when it comes to state/county/local government agencies. The place it falls short is with law enforcement agencies, where they grant huge leeway for each agency to set their own standards, policies and customized practices that follows a "do whatever the hell you please, however you see fit" line of reasoning.

So the issues I'm facing is the agency in question here (LA County Registar-Recorder/County Clerk) is a compound problem:
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: DeathHamster on July 19, 2015, 14:40
I'm pretty sure that LA County used to have the owner information online. Sometime in the last seven years or so, they've changed it.
Title: Re: Los Angeles County Fictitious Business Name Reigistrations
Post by: AnonLover on July 19, 2015, 15:59
I'm pretty sure that LA County used to have the owner information online. Sometime in the last seven years or so, they've changed it.
I'm sort of counting on that for my public benefit fee waiver. But since the list I came up is rather long, I'm stewing on the thought of only requesting the data on a few FBNs as a test-the-water type of approach on my initial records request. Just to see what response I get. And since you and BigBeard have more uses for this info than I do, feel free to offer priority suggestions on which fictitious names you would like to see the owner on first.