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Title: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on December 30, 2010, 23:12
No docs yet but this looks like the City is currently suing CoS CT, it's mortgage holder and 2 water authorities to foreclose on the building.  Current Foreclosure case:

NNH-CV10-6014252-S CITY OF NEW HAVEN v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG ET AL
 
 Case Type: P00 File Date: 09/03/2010 Return Date: 09/21/2010     
 
 Data Updated as of: 12/30/2010
 
 Case Information
 Case Type:   P00 - PROPERTY - FORECLOSURE
 Court Location:   NEW HAVEN
 List Type:   
 Trial List Claim:   
 Last Action Date:   12/15/2010  (Last Action Date is a data entry date, not actual date)
 
Disposition Information
 Disposition Date:   
 Disposition:   
Judge or Magistrate:   
   
Parties & Appearances
 
Party Number Plaintiff/ Defendant   No Fee Party
01 P CITY OF NEW HAVEN 
 Attorney:    ALFRED J ONORATO(044615)
389 ORANGE STREET
NEW HAVEN , CT 06511     Appear Date: 09/03/2010   
   
50 D CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC. 
 Attorney:     FASANO IPPOLITO & LEE(106128)
388 ORANGE STREET
NEW HAVEN , CT 06511     Appear Date: 09/21/2010   
 
51 D GREATER NEW HAVEN WATER POLLUTION CONTROL AUTHORITY
 Non-Appearing 
 
52 D SOUTH CENTRAL CONNECTICUT REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY
 Non-Appearing 
   
53 D WEBSTER BANK
 Non-Appearing 
 
Motions / Pleadings / Documents / Case Status
Entry No File Date Filed By Description Arguable
  09/03/2010 P SUMMONS   
  09/03/2010 P COMPLAINT   
  09/03/2010 P RETURN OF SERVICE   
  09/21/2010 D APPEARANCE
  Appearance   
101.00 09/03/2010 Court FORECLOSURE MEDIATION - INELIGIBLE CASE (NO DOCUMENT)  No
102.00 09/21/2010 D MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
  Extension to Plead
  RESULT: Granted 10/8/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
102.10 10/08/2010 Court ORDER
   
  RESULT: Granted 10/8/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
103.00 10/25/2010 D MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
  RESULT: Granted 11/9/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
103.10 11/09/2010 Court ORDER
   
  RESULT: Granted 11/9/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
104.00 11/23/2010 D MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
  RESULT: Granted 12/14/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
104.10 12/14/2010 Court ORDER
   
  RESULT: Granted 12/14/2010 HON TERENCE ZEMETIS, J  No
 
Individually Scheduled Court Dates as of 12/30/2010
NNH-CV10-6014252-S - CITY OF NEW HAVEN v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG ET AL
# Date Time Event Description Status
     No Events Scheduled   
 
Note: Other court activity may be separately scheduled on short calendars. 
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UPDATE: Just found the Lis Pendens notice on record  http://tinyurl.com/2f3f88s

The information below describes your property and lists your current tax year activity. Additional assessment and billing information is available by selecting the HISTORY option on the menu. If you believe any of the information to be in error, please call the Tax Office at (203) 946-8054 or EMAIL US by making that selection on the menu.
 
Account ID:    25104   
Owner Name:    CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNE   
Address:    949 WHALLEY   
   NEW HAVEN ,  CT    06515   
Parcel ID:    388-1167-00700   
Second Owner Name:     
Plat Book Page:    6550/244 
Ward:     
 
Assessed Value:    $1,538,180 
Exemptions:    $531,426 
Taxable Value:    $1,006,754 
 
Current Year Taxes Billed 2009     
Billed taxes:    $44,220.50 
Current and Back Tax Principle Due:    $60,947.46 
Total Interest, Penalties, and Collections Fees:    $4,995.37 
Total Amount Due:    $65,942.83
 
 
Roll Code:    REAL ESTATE   

Account ID:    25104   
Owner Name:    CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNE   
Address:    949 WHALLEY   
   NEW HAVEN ,  CT    06515   
Parcel ID:    388-1167-00700   
   
 Tax Year   Delinquent  Date   Unpaid Tax  Amount   Penalty   Amount   Interest   Amount   Collection  Fees   Total Due 
 2008   02/02/2010              $16,702.96   $0.00    $3,006.53   $0.00   $19,709.49 
 2008   02/10/2010                    $24.00   $0.00    $0.00   $0.00   $24.00 
 2009   08/03/2010               $22,098.25   $0.00    $1,988.84   $0.00   $24,087.09 
 2009   02/02/2011               $22,122.25   $0.00    $0.00   $0.00   $22,122.25 
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 01, 2011, 18:58

The information below describes your property and lists your current tax year activity. Additional assessment and billing information is available by selecting the HISTORY option on the menu. If you believe any of the information to be in error, please call the Tax Office at (203) 946-8054 or EMAIL US by making that selection on the menu.
 
Account ID:    25104   
Owner Name:    CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNE   
Address:    949 WHALLEY   
   NEW HAVEN ,  CT    06515   
Parcel ID:    388-1167-00700   
Second Owner Name:     
Plat Book Page:    6550/244 
Ward:     
 
Assessed Value:    $1,538,180 
Exemptions:    $531,426 
Taxable Value:    $1,006,754 
 
Current Year Taxes Billed 2009     
Billed taxes:    $44,220.50 
Current and Back Tax Principle Due:    $60,947.46 
Total Interest, Penalties, and Collections Fees:    $4,995.37 
Total Amount Due:    $65,942.83
 
 
Roll Code:    REAL ESTATE   

Account ID:    25104   
Owner Name:    CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNE   
Address:    949 WHALLEY   
   NEW HAVEN ,  CT    06515   
Parcel ID:    388-1167-00700   
   
 Tax Year   Delinquent  Date   Unpaid Tax  Amount   Penalty   Amount   Interest   Amount   Collection  Fees   Total Due 
 2008   02/02/2010              $16,702.96   $0.00    $3,006.53   $0.00   $19,709.49 
 2008   02/10/2010                    $24.00   $0.00    $0.00   $0.00   $24.00 
 2009   08/03/2010               $22,098.25   $0.00    $1,988.84   $0.00   $24,087.09 
 2009   02/02/2011               $22,122.25   $0.00    $0.00   $0.00   $22,122.25 

Wow!  That's a lot of taxes! 

Here's a photo:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/zx0h6t.jpg)
from this thread: http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,78.0.html

Do you think maybe we should start a thread with a running talley of everything we know the various entities owe?  I mean:

$65,942.83 CoS of Connecticut (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6333.0.html)
$116,865.23  CoS of Ga  (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6309.0.html)
$9052.38 Deb Danos (http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php/topic,6309.0.html) (CEO and DSA of CoS of Ga)
$5026.48 Kimberly Delaware/Desormeaux (http://www.ojs.dekalbga.org/servlet/page?_pageid=65,289&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&dcms.exact_last=ON&dcms.spriden_id=%402361599&dcms.case_type=&dcms.to_date=12%2F31%2F2090&dcms.from_date=01%2F01%2F1900&dcms.company=CHURCH%20OF%20SCIENTOLOGY&dcms.case_status=ALL&dcms.cort_code=&dcms.soundex=&dcms.case_id=10G30737&dcms.ent_code=COURTS&dcms.pstart=0) (used to be CEO of CoS of Ga)

and that's just 2 states!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 01, 2011, 19:08
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2003/09/20/import/10194936.txt

Quote
Hallock’s sells city building
Business plans to relocate locally
Published: Saturday, September 20, 2003
...
The Church of Scientology bought the 35,000-square-foot building for $1.5 million.

Carol Yingling, a church minister, said the church plans to move its Connecticut headquarters into the building. The current headquarters is in 9,000 square feet of leased space just down the street.

"We are really busting out at the seams," she said. "I’m looking forward to having a place to hold community meetings."

Yingling said the move will allow the church to potentially quadruple its staff of 35.

"We need four times that many to make full use of the new space," she said.

Maybe they're just gonna throw that building away since it doesn't meet their new specs for Ideal Orgs.   :D
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on January 14, 2011, 12:00
Well that is interesting Mary.The last time I was in New Haven, the building looked abandoned. It is unfortunate because it is a nice building. There really are not many defenses to a foreclosure action. Unless they come up with the money to pay the back taxes and water bills, the court will order the property to be sold at auction. Webster Bank will probably bid the amount of the debt to protect their interest. Anyone interested in forming a charitable cult awareness corporation to purchase the property?
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 17, 2011, 21:42
Well that is interesting Mary.The last time I was in New Haven, the building looked abandoned. It is unfortunate because it is a nice building. There really are not many defenses to a foreclosure action. Unless they come up with the money to pay the back taxes and water bills, the court will order the property to be sold at auction. Webster Bank will probably bid the amount of the debt to protect their interest. Anyone interested in forming a charitable cult awareness corporation to purchase the property?

Any way to find out what the debt amount is? 

$66,000 + debt, sounds like it could be a lucrative venture, depending on the debt owed on it.   :yes:)
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 18, 2011, 18:27
Sorry I didn'y gert back to everyone on this thread.... must have been the pain meds, lol

Anyway,
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Quote from: skydog on January 14, 2011, 12:00 Well that is interesting Mary.The last time I was in New Haven, the building looked abandoned. It is unfortunate because it is a nice building. There really are not many defenses to a foreclosure action. Unless they come up with the money to pay the back taxes and water bills, the court will order the property to be sold at auction. Webster Bank will probably bid the amount of the debt to protect their interest. Anyone interested in forming a charitable cult awareness corporation to purchase the property?
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You are correct. I could not find the amount of the debt owing to the bank but it's probably prohibitive since the market was good and prices high at that time. I wish I had the resources to buy that back and start a cult awareness corp!

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Ethercat said:
Any way to find out what the debt amount is? 

$66,000 + debt, sounds like it could be a lucrative venture, depending on the debt owed on it.
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I doubt it's lucrative because the large mortgage would have to be satisfied as well. I guess it's wait and see. Right now they are getting extensions of time, prsumably to scrounge up the monies to avoid a completed foreclosure. To date, nothing has changed in the court records that I know of. Here is what is online at court database
"Individually Scheduled Court Dates as of 01/15/2011
NNH-CV10-6014252-S - CITY OF NEW HAVEN v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG ET AL
# Date Time Event Description Status
     No Events Scheduled "

New Haven list of foreclosures. Link to check on periodically.
https://sso.eservices.jud.ct.gov/foreclosures/Public/PendPostbyTownDetails.aspx?town=New Haven

Search Results for New Haven County ( Real Estate Index- no full docs)  https://www.uslandrecords.com/ctlr/

Preview Name File Date Party Number Type Desc. Inst. Date # Pgs. Book/Vol/Page
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  08/16/2010 12:35:21  Grantor  9193  LIS PENDENS      2  RE/08585/35 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:40:00  Grantor  17894  MISCELLANEOUS      2  RE/06550/289 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:39:00  Grantor  17893  ASSIGNMENT      11  RE/06550/278 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:34:00  Grantor  17892  MORTGAGE      32  RE/06550/246 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:32:00  Grantee  17891  WARRANTY      2  RE/06550/244 
 
I guess one has to buy the 32 page mortgage to see what they borrowed from Webster. Not that interested.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 18, 2011, 18:38
I doubt it's lucrative because the large mortgage would have to be satisfied as well. I guess it's wait and see. Right now they are getting extensions of time, prsumably to scrounge up the monies to avoid a completed foreclosure. To date, nothing has changed in the court records that I know of. Here is what is online at court database
"Individually Scheduled Court Dates as of 01/15/2011
NNH-CV10-6014252-S - CITY OF NEW HAVEN v. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOG ET AL
# Date Time Event Description Status
     No Events Scheduled "

New Haven list of foreclosures. Link to check on periodically.
https://sso.eservices.jud.ct.gov/foreclosures/Public/PendPostbyTownDetails.aspx?town=New Haven

Search Results for New Haven County ( Real Estate Index- no full docs)  https://www.uslandrecords.com/ctlr/

Preview Name File Date Party Number Type Desc. Inst. Date # Pgs. Book/Vol/Page
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  08/16/2010 12:35:21  Grantor  9193  LIS PENDENS      2  RE/08585/35 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:40:00  Grantor  17894  MISCELLANEOUS      2  RE/06550/289 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:39:00  Grantor  17893  ASSIGNMENT      11  RE/06550/278 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:34:00  Grantor  17892  MORTGAGE      32  RE/06550/246 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:32:00  Grantee  17891  WARRANTY      2  RE/06550/244 
 
I guess one has to buy the 32 page mortgage to see what they borrowed from Webster. Not that interested.

Interesting that they borrowed money from a bank for this one, yet at the Atlanta one, they Deb Danos claimed in the deposition that the money was loaned by CSI. 

Yeah, I'm not interested in a building so far from where I am; I'd just love to see an SP1 buy it out from under them, like skydog suggested.   >:D



1 Suppressive Person, an enemy of scientology
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on January 19, 2011, 15:17
The mortgage is from the Church of Scientology of CT, Inc. to Webster Bank in the principle amount of 1,000,000 taken out in 2003. No way of knowing how much of that has been paid to date. According to the website (hasn't been updated in a few years) some money has been paid. http://newhavenidealorg.org/OTCWebSite/LatestNews.aspx

The church has been granted three thirty day extensions so far. It will be a few weeks before anything happens as apparently everyone in the city attorney's office is on vacation until next week. After that, an appraisal will be ordered on the property and the game commences. According to my sources, the church's attorneys have promised a vigorous defense with counter-claims against the city, appraiser and anyone else they can bully.

Apparently the church failed to file the appropriate paperwork with the city which is the reason the property is not exempt from tax.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 19, 2011, 22:21
Thanks for this info and update! Pls keep us posted :)
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 22, 2011, 15:50
According to my sources, the church's attorneys have promised a vigorous defense with counter-claims against the city, appraiser and anyone else they can bully.

That is Standard Operating Procedure for them.  So much for taking responsiblilty for their actions and the repurcussions.  (Isn't that what they claim they do?  Take responsibility?)

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Apparently the church failed to file the appropriate paperwork with the city which is the reason the property is not exempt from tax.

LoL.  Someone on the inside cost them a bunch of money.   ^*-->|

Thanks, skydog!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on January 23, 2011, 08:43
In a foreclosure action, the lien holder is entitled to attorney's fees by statute. So the church can defend and counter-claim to its heart's content; it simply translates into billable hours.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on January 23, 2011, 12:01
LOL. They are so stubborn this could be quite costly. Thanks for info skydog!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on January 24, 2011, 11:43
I just checked on line with the Secretary of State for filings by the Church of Scientology of Connecticut Inc. They have not filed any paperwork for 2010. The following are the listed officers:
Anna Rubin, President
Carol Yingling, Secretary (Don't know if she is related to Monique Yingling)
Edyth Mercier, Treasurer
Bradford Everett, Agent

The prior president was Gail Cassolino. She is not listed with the sec. of state but signed the mortgage deed and note as president.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 24, 2011, 20:13
LOL. They are so stubborn this could be quite costly. Thanks for info skydog!

They're not stubborn.  They just can't stand to have the normal people win.    (OUO)

I just checked on line with the Secretary of State for filings by the Church of Scientology of Connecticut Inc. They have not filed any paperwork for 2010. The following are the listed officers:
Anna Rubin, President
Carol Yingling, Secretary (Don't know if she is related to Monique Yingling)

That was gonna be my next question.   :D

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Edyth Mercier, Treasurer
Bradford Everett, Agent

The prior president was Gail Cassolino. She is not listed with the sec. of state but signed the mortgage deed and note as president.

Is it normal for corporations to change officers so often?  I've noticed that CoS of Ga. changes pretty frequently.

Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on February 22, 2011, 12:08
Most do it annually, usually reelecting the same officers. Some more frequently.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on May 23, 2011, 16:10
I checked the judicial website this morning and the church has filed an answer, special defense and counter-claim to the the foreclosure action. The city has filed an answer to the counter-claim and special defense and asserted a special defense to the counter-claim. Once the church responds to the special defense, the pleadings will be closed and there should be some movement on the file. (Motion for Summary Judgment or trial list). I haven't had a chance to look at the file but will do so on my next trip to New Haven (within a few weeks).

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on May 23, 2011, 16:17
Thanks for the update Skydog.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2011, 18:23
I checked the judicial website this morning and the church has filed an answer, special defense and counter-claim to the the foreclosure action. The city has filed an answer to the counter-claim and special defense and asserted a special defense to the counter-claim. Once the church responds to the special defense, the pleadings will be closed and there should be some movement on the file. (Motion for Summary Judgment or trial list).

Thanks for the update!  I always get a little laugh when the church of scientology enters a defense, even though I know it's just procedure, because of Hubbard's admonition "Always attack, never defend."  I suppose the counter-claim is the "attack" part.  I'm interested to see what a special defense is.  "We don't have to pay our debts because everyone else is a religious bigot."   ;)

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I haven't had a chance to look at the file but will do so on my next trip to New Haven (within a few weeks).

That's very kind of you.  I'm looking forward to hearing about it.

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http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on August 09, 2011, 15:04
I just got back from the courthouse where I took a look at this file. The clerk's office charges a dollar a page for copies so I just took copious notes. Most civil cases in CT are "paperless" which means that they can be accessed through a computer network from any civil court in CT. Fortunately, I didn't need to go to New Haven and was able to access the documents locally. In a nutshell:

The foreclosure deals with the tax years 2008 and 2009. October 1 is tax day. The tax due on July 1, 2009 in the amount of $16,702.96 was based on the 10-1-08 assessment. The tax bill for the following year (assessed 10-1-09/due 7-1-10) was $44,196.42. The court records indicate that the original complaint (filed 9-10-10) dealt only with the tax year 2008. In the answer, special defense, and counter-claim (filed 2-14-11) filed by the church, they raised issues concerning both tax years. Consequently, the city amended its original complaint(filed 3-22-11) to foreclose on the taxes assessed on October 1, 2009. The church was then obliged to file another answer, special defense, and counter-claim which they did on 5-11-11. This pleading is substantially the same as the original filed on Feb. 14.

The pleadings indicate that there may be unpaid sewer and water charges that have accrued on the property. The Greater New Haven Water Pollution Control Authority and South Central Connecticut Water Control Authority are each named as defendants but no attorney has filed an appearance on either's behalf. In a foreclosure action, all parties that have an interest in the property must be named as defendants. Because they have been so named, I am assuming that there may be outstanding monies due.

Webster Bank was also named as a defendant based on the mortgage given them by the church on September 12, 2003. The mortgage note ($1,000,000.00) is secured by the property as well as an assignment of leases (customary in a commercial transaction). They are represented by counsel but have not filed an answer. The city has filed a motion to default them for their failure to do so. This motion has not been acted on by the court. The bank will in all likelihood be defaulted for either failing to plead or failure to disclose a defense.

The special defenses and counter-claim filed by the church allege essentially the same thing. They claim that the church was granted tax exempt status in 2007.  They further claim that this tax exempt status was revoked in 2009 and further that they were not notified of the revocation. Because they were not notified of this revocation they did not file an appeal with either the board of assessment appeals (General Statutes 12-111) or in the superior court (General Statutes 12-119). The counter-claim is in eight counts (each count is a separate cause of action). Four of the counts deal with the tax year of 2008 and four with tax year 2009. The substance of each claim is the failure of the city to notify them that the tax exempt status was revoked. They  More on that later. ;)

The church's lawyer is Nicholas Mingione of New Haven, CT. He appears to have sufficient abrasiveness to be a desirable mouthpiece for the cult. See,http://northbranford.patch.com/articles/town-council-hears-comments-from-pietrandreas-lawyer 

There are affirmative obligations placed on tax payers wishing to exempt themselves from taxes. According to the city, the church never filed the necessary paperwork to continue this exemption. (according to the city's attorney).

The lack of notice claim is interesting for several reasons. In the first place, I am unaware of any obligation that would require the tax collector to "remind" tax payers that paperwork needs to be filed in order to continue an exemption. Tax collectors remind tax payers to pay taxes not to avoid them.  Ignorance of the law is not a defense and the fact that they were not aware of this is just too bad for the church. In the second place, General Statutes, Sec. 12-119 provides a one year statute of limitations to file an appeal in superior court. That date begins on the date of the assessment. (10-1-08 and 10-1-09). The tax bills are due the following July and the church would have been sent a bills for these taxes the following June. So the absolute latest that the church would have had notice of the revoked status would be June 2009 and June 2010. So they still had four months with which to file an appeal on each of the tax years.

The most interesting thing about all this is that it confirms the many reports of the dire predicament the local churches are in as a result of the Ideal Org. program. The fact that the tax exempt status was revoked is a signal that the local churches do not have the funds to hire local counsel and tax professionals to avoid these types of problems. The fact that the tax exempt status was revoked was not even known was apparently not even known until suit was filed is an indication of a complete lack of communication.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on August 09, 2011, 16:50
The most interesting thing about all this is that it confirms the many reports of the dire predicament the local churches are in as a result of the Ideal Org. program. The fact that the tax exempt status was revoked is a signal that the local churches do not have the funds to hire local counsel and tax professionals to avoid these types of problems. The fact that the tax exempt status was revoked was not even known was apparently not even known until suit was filed is an indication of a complete lack of communication.

That is interesting. I definitely see some similarities between the situation in New Haven and Atlanta.

Thanks for reviewing the file and providing an update, Skydog.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 10, 2011, 01:17
Thanks so much, skydog! One comment, however, on this


The fact that the tax exempt status was revoked is a signal that the local churches do not have the funds to hire local counsel and tax professionals to avoid these types of problems.

Well, that certainly is a signal about Scientology in New Haven.

Most orgs do not have to file anything after first approved application for waiver or exemption of property taxes. In this case, the City has it's own process, differing from others and probably just put the information  in it's annual tax bill which then went in the backbills basket ( which was SOP in many local orgs when I was a member many years ago).

It's also a signal that they had untrained staff in treasury and little support in their OSA/Legal Affairs division, because they would have been on top of this making sure treasury was trained on what to do when the first government tax bill arrived in the mail. It should have, according to Hubard's policy,  been sent up for 'handling' .

Anyone know the phrase "Too little, too late" ? Pure instant karma
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on August 10, 2011, 20:51
Thanks for the summary, skydog.

I find it very disturbing that so many of these Ideal Org buildings are either being left to deteriorate, or being lost in one way or another. 

As much as I'd like to be jubilant about the scientologists not having the money to maintain and keep these buildings, something about this bothers me.  Certainly there is enough money in the coffers to pay up and avoid losing these buildings.  Why would DM allow this to happen to these buildings?  Surely if the plan were to hold and sell, as some think, he wouldn't let them rot like they are.  Is there some kind of money laundering scheme going on?  What could be the game here? 

Atlanta: deteriorating while it waits out the RLUIPA process

New Haven: being foreclosed on for property taxes

Northumbria: sat deteriorating, was about to be sold, or had been, then burned

San Diego: left deteriorating, now up for sale (as of March 2011)

Boston: Demolished in April, after being declared "structurally unsound" by the city.  Supposedly to be rebuilt.  http://southend.patch.com/articles/photo-gallery-ivory-bean-building-demolished#photo-5756030

Something about Plymouth and Salt Lake City but I don't have time to search for what right now.

These are "islands of sanity"?!?

Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on August 10, 2011, 21:50

I find it very disturbing that so many of these Ideal Org buildings are either being left to deteriorate, or being lost in one way or another. 

As much as I'd like to be jubilant about the scientologists not having the money to maintain and keep these buildings, something about this bothers me.  Certainly there is enough money in the coffers to pay up and avoid losing these buildings.  Why would DM allow this to happen to these buildings?  Surely if the plan were to hold and sell, as some think, he wouldn't let them rot like they are.  Is there some kind of money laundering scheme going on?  What could be the game here? 

Atlanta: deteriorating while it waits out the RLUIPA process

New Haven: being foreclosed on for property taxes

Northumbria: sat deteriorating, was about to be sold, or had been, then burned

San Diego: left deteriorating, now up for sale (as of March 2011)

Boston: Demolished in April, after being declared "structurally unsound" by the city.  Supposedly to be rebuilt.  http://southend.patch.com/articles/photo-gallery-ivory-bean-building-demolished#photo-5756030

Something about Plymouth and Salt Lake City but I don't have time to search for what right now.

These are "islands of sanity"?!?

I find this baffling, too. These Idle Org real estate holdings are probably only a quarter of their original worth at this point. 
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 11, 2011, 21:14
How timely.

China shows us what an Ideal Org for 16,000,000 people looks like
OldAuditor on July 22, 2011
http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/?p=3600

"China has its own version of the Miscavige Ideal Org project. They are building enormous empty cities and malls which are populated only by cleaning women and maintenance workers.

The Chinese leadership has evidently decided that the apparency of growth is more important than real economic growth. Watch this video and marvel at how much the language used by the promoters of these empty cities sounds like Sea Org blather about Ideal Orgs."

Watch the video he put up called China's Ghost Cities and Malls
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on August 22, 2011, 07:35
New article gives the time line concerning the revocation of the exemption.

http://www.registercitizen.com/articles/2011/08/22/news/doc4e51c9b1e4096910124168.txt?viewmode=fullstory
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on August 22, 2011, 08:34
Sorry for the misinformation in my previous posts. I based that post on the pleadings and my conversations with the city's attorney who told me that the church had failed to file the necessary paperwork to continue the exemption. I assumed it was the four year form-not the proof that construction was ongoing.  ???

Kudos to the city assessors and building inspectors for following through on this. In many cases, this type of thing falls through the cracks and nothing is done for years.

The clam's attorney, Nick Mingione, is proving to be quite an ass clown.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on August 22, 2011, 18:17
Sorry for the misinformation in my previous posts. I based that post on the pleadings and my conversations with the city's attorney who told me that the church had failed to file the necessary paperwork to continue the exemption. I assumed it was the four year form-not the proof that construction was ongoing.  ???

No problem, skydog.  We won't hold it against you. 

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Kudos to the city assessors and building inspectors for following through on this. In many cases, this type of thing falls through the cracks and nothing is done for years.

The clam's attorney, Nick Mingione, is proving to be quite an ass clown.

They still owe the $16,702 and the $44,196?  Or has that changed?
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on September 29, 2011, 08:05
According to the judicial website, the church has been defaulted for failure to plead and the matter is scheduled for a pre-trial conference on September 30, 2011.  http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S

I haven't checked the file and this default may apply to either their special defenses and/or counter-claim. It most likely pertains only to the counter-claim as there is usually no reason to file a responsive pleading to a special defense.

The special defense and counter-claim are both based on the church's claim that they were not notified of the change in tax status. If the default applies to both, the court will hear no evidence on that issue; if the default applies only to the counter-claim, then the church may use the lack of notice as a defense to the foreclosure but the court cannot award them damages.

In many cases, the judges will vacate a default so until a judgment is entered, while bad news for the church, it is not the end of the case. . .yet!

The case may resolve tomorrow (9-30-11) at the pre-trial. There is a huge backlog of foreclosure cases and the judges are pressuring the attorneys and parties to resolve the matters without trial. I suspect that the church's ability to pay any judgment is really at the heart of the matter and wonder if and to what extent, the mother church will bail them out.

One other question I have is whether the church is current on the mortgage payments. The failure to pay taxes is most certainly a violation of the terms of the note and mortgage. The church has to know there is little to no chance of success and continuing to make payments for property that will be lost makes no business sense. There is no reason for the bank to initiate a separate foreclosure because, as junior \ lien holders, they have what is called a right of redemption to the property. If the property is ordered auctioned, the bank will generally bid the amount due for taxes plus the amount of their note. They will either own the property or any subsequent bid, which must be higher than their bid, will be enough to pay their debt. If the judgement is of strict foreclosure, the church will be given a "law day" with which to pay the taxes or lose the property. If they fail to redeem, the bank will simply pay the taxes and take title to the property.
Title: It's on-they litigate
Post by: skydog on October 03, 2011, 12:59
Well apparently the judicial pre-trial was not fruitful and the matter has been claimed for the trial list. I am guessing that those involved are not impressed or amused by the church's antics.

I checked the court files today and there are some corrections to my earlier posts. The church was not defaulted; it was Webster Bank that was defaulted. The other lien holders, Greater New Haven Water Pollution Control Authority and South Central CT Regional Water Authority, were defaulted earlier this year. Webster Bank was defaulted in August for failing to file an answer the the complaint.

The entry of a default is not a judgment. It just moves the case to the next phase of the proceeding. In this case, the defaulted parties are precluded from offering any defense to the city's foreclosure. As a practical matter, it is of no import. The only issue before the court is whether the tax liens are senior to the other liens (which they are), the amount owed, if any (this is where the church's special defense and counter-claim come in), and whether the debt has been paid. The junior lien holders (Bank, water and pollution authorities) have no defense and would have been defaulted on that ground (Failure to Disclose a Defense) if they had not already been defaulted. The junior lien holders have been made defendants because the statute requires they be cited as defendants. The statute requires they be cited because they have a legal interest in the subject property that may extinguished by the action.

At the trial, the court will the city's evidence pertaining to the assessment of tax along with the city's failure to renew the tax exemption. The city will claim that notice of this was sent in January, 2009; the church will say they were not notified until January, 2010 (they are religious people, so we know they don't lie). The court, after hearing the evidence, will make a decision. The decision will enter judgment on for the city and church on the city's complaint and the church's counter-claim. If the city wins both (likely result) the property will be appraised (if not done already to determine if there is sufficient equity in the property to pay off all debt that is secured by the property.

If the value of the property is not sufficient to satisfy all the debts, it will order a strict foreclosure. In that case, the court will assign law days to the church and junior lien holders. These parties have what is known as an "equity of redemption". If the church pays the taxes, plus attorney fees and court costs, they will have redeemed the property. The interest of the junior lien holders will remain on the property. If the church fails to redeem, their interest is foreclosed and the next senior lien holder, on its law day, may redeem the property by paying the tax due. If they fail to do so, their interest in the property will be foreclosed and so on until the final law day when the last lien holder's equity of redemption has been foreclosed. If no party redeems, the city will take title to the property free free of any of the foreclosed encumbrances.

If the appraisal of the property shows that there is sufficient equity to pay all the encumbrances, the court will order a foreclosure by sale. It will appoint a committee of sale to auction the property. At the auction, any of the junior lien holders may bid. The successful bidder, will generally have to bid more than the total debt securing the property as the junior lien holders usually enter a bids equalling the amount of the prior encumbrances, plus the amount of their debt. If the purchase price exceeds all the debt, the court will usually approve the sale. Any funds over those needed to pay the lien holders will be returned to the church. If the purchase price will not cover these obligations, the judgment may be converted to a strict foreclosure.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on October 03, 2011, 21:06
Thanks for the reporting, skydog!

I don't know how much they may owe to various other parties, but the value is almost certainly more than enough to pay the $65,000 in taxes, considering that they bought it for $1.5 million in 2003.  Is there any way to know how much they owe Webster Bank and the water dept?
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on October 09, 2011, 22:02
Thanks for the reporting, skydog!
I don't know how much they may owe to various other parties, but the value is almost certainly more than enough to pay the $65,000 in taxes, considering that they bought it for $1.5 million in 2003.  Is there any way to know how much they owe Webster Bank and the water dept?

https://www.uslandrecords.com
https://www.uslandrecords.com/ctlr/controller?commandflag=searchByNameID&optflag=SearchCommand&county=ct009&userid=null&userCategory=7&nameid=298625&doctype=All&partytype=&name=CHURCH%2BOF%2BSCIENTOLOGY%2BOF%2BCONNECTICUT%2BINC&officeid=60&fromdate=01/02/1959&todate=10/09/2011&lastname=Church+of+scientology


CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  08/16/2010 12:35:21  Grantor  9193  LIS PENDENS      2  RE/08585/35 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:40:00  Grantor  17894  MISCELLANEOUS      2  RE/06550/289 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:39:00  Grantor  17893  ASSIGNMENT      11  RE/06550/278 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:34:00  Grantor  17892  MORTGAGE      32  RE/06550/246 
  CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY OF CONNECTICUT INC  09/15/2003 10:32:00  Grantee  17891  WARRANTY      2  RE/06550/244 

I would spring for the $32 required to get a copy of the mortgage, or $11 to get the Assignment of Rents contract ( which usually states the amount of the mortgage ) but I don't want to waste my money and find out I can't get it in the formats I want. I don't want to print it to my printer and then try to make a PDF of it, as I think I need a separate program for that.

The formats the county provides at this site make it hard, I believe, to create a clear PDF of it all. .png is usually not very visible and I am not sure I could print it to my pdf program to begin with. I have not been successful in printing any .Tiff files into a pdf to date


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Title: TRIAL DATE HAS BEEN SET
Post by: skydog on October 27, 2011, 14:58
Trial has been set for February 10, 2012 at 9:30AM. That may change so stay tuned.

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on October 27, 2011, 17:38
Thanks for keeping us on top of it, skydog!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on October 28, 2011, 08:19
One of the differences between the Atlanta and New Haven litigation is the relative swiftness that this matter has come to trial. I am not surprised as the city's attorney (Al Onorato) is really a no bullshit type of guy and is not going to play the discovery and deposition games with the young yahoo representing the church. (Nick Mingione). On the other hand, Mingione, can't play that game either because 1) I don't think the church has enough to pay him; and 2) legal fees will be awarded to Onorato in the foreclosure but there is no law that would allow for legal fees if the church prevails on the counter-claim.

With the help of Pooks, I was able to find out that one of the partners in Mingione's law firm was a high school class mate of Heidi Yanavich (maiden name Ayer) who is a long time member (over thirty years) of the cult. Her father Lloyd Ayer and sister Holly (been married at least twice) were members but I believe they both left. Heidi was the ethics officer years ago and I believe was with the Guardian's Office at one point. I believe that is the reason their firm gets the dubious distinction of being designated "clam mouth-piece". If anyone has any current information on these folks, please let me know. If Heidi still works for the church it is part time as her main job is with McCue Mortgage (I don't think they are a Scientology Co. but could be wrong).  Another reason may be that Onorato's office is directly across the street from Mingione's.

I can only imagine the line of bs being poured on any public that may be left in New Haven. Onorato shares space with several psychiatrists and is no doubt double dipping getting paid by both the city (actually the church  ;D) and the psych industry of death. I have warned Al about how fucked up these people can be but others may want to drop him a line and advise him to watch his back.

I was in New Haven Wed. and dropped by the org. The first floor was abandoned and it didn't look like there was much going on on the second floor.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on October 29, 2011, 11:48
That's some interesting information, skydog. 

Nick Mingione: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nick-mingione/13/634/aa6
Attorney
Fasano Ippolito & Lee
June 1999 – Present

State Sen. Leonard A. Fasano: http://ctmirror.org/node/288
Occupation:
Lawyer, Fasano, Ippolito & Lee

http://ctsenaterepublicans.com/home-fasano/

Fasano, Ippolito & Lee, a law firm which apparently doesn't have a web site of their own, choosing to use Linkedin as their web presence: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/fasano-ippolito-lee-llc/1b/779/8a1
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Nicholas Mingione: B.S. Western New England College, 2003; J.D. Western New England College School of Law, 2006. Nicholas concentrates in the areas of Foreclosure, Real Estate, Including Residential and Commercial Closings, Business Trust, Estate Planning, Corporations, Partnerships, Limited Liability Companies, Contracts, Land Use, Planning and Zoning.

And this firm has a partner who is a high school classmate of Heidi Yanavich, a 30+ year member of Scientology.

I wonder if this State Senator Leonard A. Fasano possibly related to a State Senator Mike Fasano in Florida?
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/07/19/Tampabay/Striving_for_mainstre.shtml
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City and state officials help Scientologist Joanie Sigal kick off the church’s 11th annual Winter Wonderland carnival in downtown Clearwater. Seated, from left, are Clearwater Council Member Hoyt Hamilton, state Sen. Mike Fasano, Clearwater City Manager Bill Horne and Aaron McGlon, Clearwater Area Director for the Boys & Girls Clubs.
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Good to hear Al is Protected by Psychs.  Also good to hear that the New Haven org was pretty dead to all outside appearances.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on October 29, 2011, 13:24
Heidi's classmate was Ippolito (Hamden Hall class of 1975) who I have never met. Don't know whether Len Fasano is related to the Florida Fasano but he may be. Fasano was a classmate of mine in law school years ago but I haven't seen him since then. He ran for class president in the final year and lost to a kid (can't remember his name) that during the election offered a "peppercorn" to anyone that would vote for him. (A contract must be supported by consideration-the rule being that one could sell Blackacre for a peppercorn). The kid he ran against would never have won but for this rather clever campaign. Fasano complained that the election was invalid because of this promise. By most, he was considered a poor sport as a result. The firm used to have a website, but I can't find it now. Al Onorato used to be in the state senate years ago as a democrat.

I don't know Mingione but he appears to be perfect for his current role.
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2011/05/02/news/shoreline/doc4dbf424ebb05d579608309.txt?viewmode=2
http://northbranford.patch.com/articles/town-council-hears-comments-from-pietrandreas-lawyer
Title: Change in Court date
Post by: skydog on January 17, 2012, 07:27
The trial has been rescheduled from 2-10-12 to 4-13-12.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on January 17, 2012, 16:39
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on January 17, 2012, 17:37
Yes, thanks for the update. 

Aaargh!  They're making us wait!   ooo}
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on March 31, 2012, 16:16
Trial has been postponed until June 8, 2012.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on March 31, 2012, 16:37
:-thanks-: again for the latest, Skydog 
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on May 16, 2012, 07:56
It appears that June 8, 2012 will be the trial date. The continuance request filed by the church was granted, but it was a final continuance. Although the word "final" doesn't always mean "final" when lawyers are talking, it appears that the matter will go forward that day. http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=4648979

If anyone will be in New Haven that day, and can attend please send me a PM. I am trying to arrange my schedule to be there but it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on May 16, 2012, 19:55
Thanks for this update, skydog. 
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on May 23, 2012, 19:39
It appears that June 8, 2012 will be the trial date. The continuance request filed by the church was granted, but it was a final continuance. Although the word "final" doesn't always mean "final" when lawyers are talking, it appears that the matter will go forward that day. http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=4648979

If anyone will be in New Haven that day, and can attend please send me a PM. I am trying to arrange my schedule to be there but it doesn't look good.

I would sure like to go, but it's too far away for me.  I do hope someone closer will go and report on it.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on June 05, 2012, 13:50
Obviously, the wogs in the CT judicial system need to word clear the word "final". The trial date has been continued again until August 8, 2012.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on June 05, 2012, 18:42
 :-D^\^\

Maybe they have opposition we don't know about.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on August 15, 2012, 06:49
Those lawyers really need to word clear "final"; the case has now been continued until October 3, 2012. ???
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on August 15, 2012, 11:09
Those lawyers really need to word clear "final"; the case has now been continued until October 3, 2012. ???

Here is a visual aid to understanding, lol

(http://motorinoenoteca.com/wp-content/gallery/gestures/finito.jpg)
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on August 15, 2012, 16:19
Visual aids are good and they help people!
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on August 15, 2012, 20:23
Those lawyers really need to word clear "final"; the case has now been continued until October 3, 2012. ???

Thanks, skydog.  Good to see you around.   :)
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: skydog on October 04, 2012, 11:50
"The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine." Once again, the New Haven foreclosure trial has been rescheduled until 2-26-13. I guess Kendrick and Helena have their hands full fighting those bad old SPs in Atlanta and can't make the 1-3 date.  >:D
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on October 04, 2012, 18:39
"The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine." Once again, the New Haven foreclosure trial has been rescheduled until 2-26-13. I guess Kendrick and Helena have their hands full fighting those bad old SPs in Atlanta and can't make the 1-3 date.  >:D

Thanks for the update on the CoS CT foreclosure, skydog. Good to hear from you.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: ethercat on October 04, 2012, 18:59
Yes, it's good to see you here again, skydog.  Maybe they're going to wait till the Desmond case is finished so they can lose it to the Desmonds.   :D

More and more SPs in the Atlanta area are coming out every day!  Even WSB TV says they are getting calls from disgruntled former NN clients.
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: Mary_McConnell on January 08, 2013, 09:10
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7th January 2013, 09:15 AM #53
skydog

The case was withdrawn in December 2012.http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S (http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/CaseDetail/PublicCaseDetail.aspx?DocketNo=NNHCV106014252S)

If someone could cross post this at Reaching for the Tipping Point and WWP, I would appreciate it; I have lost my passwords for those forums. Thanks.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?24278-New-Haven-Foreclosure&p=764024&viewfull=1#post764024

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Originally Posted by Wants2Talk View Post
Is there precedent for this?

Would have been the decision of corporate council for the town of New Haven?

Do the people of New Haven know about this?

Should the press be called?

8th January 2013, 06:47 AM #60
skydog

Any party can fire one lawyer and hire another. As to who and why the decision was made is anyone's guess. I have my opinion but no evidence to back it up. I am assuming that the church paid one year's taxes and another was forgiven (from previous lawyer). It is rare that a defense exists to a foreclosure action (you either owe the money or you don't; there is or is not a valid lien on the underlying property). Here, the church filed a counter-claim. In my opinion it lacked merit but it is enough to bring both parties to the table. The courts in CT are overburdened and encourage settlements.

Oh well....
Thank you, skydog
Title: Re: CoS CONNECTICUT INC. Foreclosure Case filed by CITY OF NEW HAVEN
Post by: mefree on January 08, 2013, 16:41
Disappointing!
Title: I'm back
Post by: skydog on January 10, 2013, 12:18
I was having trouble logging in. Thanks EC for the new password.
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: mefree on January 10, 2013, 17:28
I was having trouble logging in. Thanks EC for the new password.

Welcome back, skydog!
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: ethercat on January 10, 2013, 17:41
I was having trouble logging in. Thanks EC for the new password.

You're welcome.   :)  Glad to have you back.