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Narconon in Michigan / Re: Serenity Point Rehab Marne, MI Staff Exodus?
« Last post by BigBeard on August 29, 2018, 15:08 »
Unless Michigan operates differently than most places I've lived, I don't get 'state certified' and 'CARF accredited' being part of the listing. Normall if a new owner takes over a treatment facility, and brings in new staff, they have to get there own certifications, license to operate, and any accreditations required.
Or I could be wrong, as the property is for sale with a $6.9 million dollar price tag:

Turn key state certified residential treatment facility located 10 minutes northwest of Grand Rapids. This approximate 95,000 square foot 1 and 2 story campus has been completely remodeled and updated in the past 3 years. Approximately 17.5 acres. 250 bed capacity, 3,300 outbuilding. 1800 square foot outbuilding, Completely furnished. Fully equipped food service kitchen and cafeteria, top of the line fire suppression system, 2 steam saunas, CARF Accredited. Call LS for appointment to show.
It may be marked "Closed" because Serenity's license expired on July 31, 2018. Serenity's Facebook page is still active and its site ( is still live online.
Well now...
Address: 15140 16th Avenue, Marne, MI 49435
Profession and License/Registration Information
Profession: Health Systems Facilities
Type: Substance Abuse
Permanent ID #

Issue Date
Expiration Date
Holy shit, Megan was just out of interning when I was at RCR and Nicole was my roommate at Warner Springs.

Crazy that the place is "for sale" since I was under the impression that the ranch was leased.

However, I'm pretty sure that they owned the tree houses a few miles down the road from the ranch, or maybe those were the ones that were leased, but the way I remember it, the ranch was leased, and the tree houses (withdraw) had been bought out for $3mil after the developer realized that no one was ever going to want to pay to go to play golf in godforsaken Caliente NV
Narconon in Michigan / Re: Best Drug Rehabilitation
« Last post by DeathHamster on July 24, 2018, 11:16 »
Aaaand, Narconon Freedom Center is closed. Not by Michigan, just closed.

I guess Per will be relocating to another location under a different name.
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I would love some help with anything I can do to file complaints . or get help . or even info on actual good sober living homes I can look into. Has anyone found real places to go to for help? I certainly cannot afford another expense like this.!

Hi larryzoe, thanks for contact us here. Which Program and facility location would you like to file complaints about.  That wil help me be able to direct you.

As far as recommendations, here are a few resources to help you locate a program, know what to ask for,  and then to make sure it is reputable.

First, visit our sister site, Narconon Reviews. This link takes you to the section on How to Choose a Rehab

You can also locate here on Narconon Reviews, where to make complaints about your experiences at a Narconon or unbranded Narconon program

To locate information about a licensed program, try the following Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) government website link.

You can call their helpline, as described below, or use their treatment locator found at this link:

However, beware that some licensed Narconon or unbranded Narconon programs will be listed at SAMHSA.

SAMHSA’s National Helpline, 1-800-662-HELP (4357), (also known as the Treatment Referral Routing Service) or TTY: 1-800-487-4889 is a confidential, free, 24-hour-a-day, 365-day-a-year, information service, in English and Spanish, for individuals and family members facing mental and/or substance use disorders. This service provides referrals to local treatment facilities, support groups, and community-based organizations. Callers can also order free publications and other information.

Sober living facilities are not always regulated.  It depends on State or county laws. If I knew which states you want to consider for this kind of arrangemnent, I could better locate resources for you to get more information on what exists and how to contact some.

Narconon Reviews is currently in the process of working to update the lists of program names, due to some programs changing facility names ( and registering/using new fictitious names ) in order to avoid the Narconon connection. In the meantime, check back here if you want to make sure a specific program is NOT a Narconon based one.

Hope this help!
Oh my goodness. This topic of Elevate Addiction Services and their wily ways of making name changes, etc. is so transparent. I was also a client there. I can 100% validate Olive18's post & experience. What a sh--show they are operating.  I am a regular person normally with no axe to grind, but these guys just need to come clean about their history and it's relevance to Elevate's current M.O.
Just look at Dan Mason's linkedin profile. He has 22 years of experience as the president of Elevate Addiction Services?? I suppose so if you add his time at both Narconon AND Elevate, which are the same businesses for all practical purposes. Also note who endorses him on linkedin: Per Winstrom, Angie Manson, Ashly Guernaccini -- all long time Narconon of Northern CA folks, & still affiliated with Elevate Addiction.
Just telling the truth. I wish their approach to substance abuse treatment could be known to any future persons in need of real help. For me it was a huge waste of money, a depressing nightmare lasting months, and my aftercare was therapy to deal with the crazy-making trauma. I was able to find real help and I am living well in recovery now.

Belated Hello!!

Thanks so much for your informative comment. So happy to hear you received real help and that you are living well in recovery!  L-O-:

I have lots more information about about what they are doing in their 'expansion' using other names ( to expand on what DeathHamster just reported, but I just time limititations right now.

In the meantime, I so appreciate your commenting here, as few do these days about the Elevate /NorCal programs. Anything you can add about the steps of the programs as you found them to be, would be greatly appreciated!

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