Reaching For the Tipping Point

Narconon and Other Scientology Front Groups => Narconon in Oklahoma => Topic started by: mefree on May 31, 2014, 11:39

Title: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: mefree on May 31, 2014, 11:39
Beau Griffis fell seven stories to his death from a building at State College in PA. His death is currently under investigation.   

Beau went to Narconon Arrowhead for treatment in 2011 and roomed with Gabriel Graves. Gabe mysteriously died while under the care of Narconon. Beau found Gabe's body and later gave a deposition in the wrongful death lawsuit brought by Gabe's family.

(http://i.imgur.com/47gaAbR.png)
Beau labeled this picture as his office at State College
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealBeauGriffis


Colin or Mary may have more to add.

Related articles:
Man who plunged from building on South Allen Street identified - Centre Daily Times (http://www.centredaily.com/2014/05/29/4199790/man-dead-after-falling-from-allen.html)
Police ID man who fell from State College balcony - WAJC (http://www.wjactv.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/police-id-man-fell-state-college-balcony-2830.shtml)
Authorities Release Identity of Fall Victim - StateCollege.com (http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/authorities-release-identity-of-fall-victim-ask-witnesses-to-contact-police,1459382/)
Apparent suicide of witness to a mysterious Scientology drug rehab death - The Underground Bunker  (http://tonyortega.org/2014/05/31/apparent-suicide-of-witness-to-a-mysterious-scientology-drug-rehab-death/#more-15123)
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 01, 2014, 00:15
I can see the staff at NN/Scn saying "He pulled it in" or "What a make wrong" or some similar uncaring comments asserting that he shouldn't have messed with the "most ethical group on the planet".
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 01, 2014, 11:48
I believe that photo above with the guy and the baby, taken from this profile
https://www.facebook.com/beau.griffis.5
is of a different Beau Griffis. That one is from Valdosta GA is 26 yrs old.
http://www.mylife.com/beau-griffis

Our Beau was 33 and from California

Our Beau has 2 profiles besides the page
https://www.facebook.com/beau.griffis.7
https://www.facebook.com/bgriffis

This is a photo of our Beau
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/431255_10151173248752505_2075454254_n.jpg)

Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: mefree on June 01, 2014, 14:32
Thanks, Mary. I thought he had two facebook pages. The picture has been removed.
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: source on June 02, 2014, 18:06
Such a tragedy.  I would imagine that Beau sought out a solution in Narconon and was love bombed with their offers of a cure for cravings via the sauna, 76% success rate, offers of employment...many things an addict would give anything to have.

And like many, when the veil was lifted and he realized that much of everything was a fraud including the supposed "cure" for his own addiction, what was he left with as a result of going to Narconon?  Zero applicable life skills, no learning improvement,the memories of his former Narconon roommate overdosing, ineffective communication skills outside of a Scientology church, instability in terms of sobriety, but a desire to make things right and speak out about what he had seen.

Traditional forms of recovery are very strong in their opinions on newly sober people not to take on too much in the beginning, not to make too many major life changes in the first year or so.  Scientology says the opposite.  They say to take on the world.

Ironically, it appears that Beau seemed to try and take on a multi million dollar conglomerate of Scientology based rehabs to make things right.  His posts allude to being stalked, having investigators follow him, computers being hacked.

Many people who leave Narconon and feel scammed or ripped off, or lied to, are too busy focusing on trying the next thing that might get them sober to do much beyond that.

Beau has my respect, because in the midst of it all he focused also on trying to do what was right in spite of his own instability.

The messengers that come out of Narconon will probably never be perfect.  They went there because of a pile of problems that Narconon probably made worse.  I hope that the Tipping Point continues to be a safe place for those people to come and voice things that they were a part of.  And I hope we can continue to be sympathetic and understand that they are probably going through a lot more internally and personally than just speaking the truth.

For many former staff members it was hard for them to start speaking out.  In spite of the dishonesty, they felt a betrayal of former friends and staff members who they spend 80 hours a week for years sitting alongside and who were still there.

But for others, speaking out meant closing a door on the small but hopeful belief that maybe they had found the "last house on the street" that could help them with their addictions.  I have sat across from a handful of people who, after years of trying scientology and Narconon, realized that most of it all was a lie.  I have seen the realization. 

And for a lot of them, they weren't happy about it at all.  It was a sense of dread and their look always said the same thing.  "Since this is all a lie then what the hell am I going to do now to fix my broken life?"

The real con in Narconon is the ultimate take away.  It's a winning lottery ticket that you found out was counterfeit after you've already spent the money.

And for some, when you figure it all out, jumping off a 7 story building isn't that bad of an idea.
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: mefree on June 02, 2014, 18:33
^^^^
Beautifully said.
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I hope that the Tipping Point continues to be a safe place for those people to come and voice things that they were a part of.  And I hope we can continue to be sympathetic and understand that they are probably going through a lot more internally and personally than just speaking the truth.

Me too.

I've always thought it must be devastating for anyone waking up to the truth about Narconon and scientology. Especially, for those who have spent a large portion of their lives within the organizations. Thanks for your perspective, source.
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 03, 2014, 01:26
I give credit to the members of the Tipping Point for having saved my life on more than one occasion.  Being able to talk about, feeling understood and accepted for having gone through the Narconon ringer is something no therapist can offer.  Members do what they do because they care.  Period.  I will always support and try to give back what was given to me.
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: mefree on June 03, 2014, 18:26
I still miss BMF every once in a while, LOL \*/
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 03, 2014, 20:07
10oriocookies, glad the forum has been of such help. We are just so grateful for all you have done.   :)

Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: Mary_McConnell on June 03, 2014, 20:13
Such a tragedy.  I would imagine that Beau sought out a solution in Narconon and was love bombed with their offers of a cure for cravings via the sauna, 76% success rate, offers of employment...many things an addict would give anything to have.

And like many, when the veil was lifted and he realized that much of everything was a fraud including the supposed "cure" for his own addiction, what was he left with as a result of going to Narconon?  Zero applicable life skills, no learning improvement,the memories of his former Narconon roommate overdosing, ineffective communication skills outside of a Scientology church, instability in terms of sobriety, but a desire to make things right and speak out about what he had seen.

Traditional forms of recovery are very strong in their opinions on newly sober people not to take on too much in the beginning, not to make too many major life changes in the first year or so.  Scientology says the opposite.  They say to take on the world.

Ironically, it appears that Beau seemed to try and take on a multi million dollar conglomerate of Scientology based rehabs to make things right.  His posts allude to being stalked, having investigators follow him, computers being hacked.

Many people who leave Narconon and feel scammed or ripped off, or lied to, are too busy focusing on trying the next thing that might get them sober to do much beyond that.

Beau has my respect, because in the midst of it all he focused also on trying to do what was right in spite of his own instability.

The messengers that come out of Narconon will probably never be perfect.  They went there because of a pile of problems that Narconon probably made worse.  I hope that the Tipping Point continues to be a safe place for those people to come and voice things that they were a part of.  And I hope we can continue to be sympathetic and understand that they are probably going through a lot more internally and personally than just speaking the truth.

For many former staff members it was hard for them to start speaking out.  In spite of the dishonesty, they felt a betrayal of former friends and staff members who they spend 80 hours a week for years sitting alongside and who were still there.

But for others, speaking out meant closing a door on the small but hopeful belief that maybe they had found the "last house on the street" that could help them with their addictions.  I have sat across from a handful of people who, after years of trying scientology and Narconon, realized that most of it all was a lie.  I have seen the realization. 

And for a lot of them, they weren't happy about it at all.  It was a sense of dread and their look always said the same thing.  "Since this is all a lie then what the hell am I going to do now to fix my broken life?"

The real con in Narconon is the ultimate take away.  It's a winning lottery ticket that you found out was counterfeit after you've already spent the money.

And for some, when you figure it all out, jumping off a 7 story building isn't that bad of an idea.

That is a most significant comment. Should have a thread of it's own as well. Thank you.

I am reserving comment on Beau's particular situation at this time. However, it seems that we probably need to keep in mind that it has not been determined that Beau committed suicide. He fell off a balcony.... whether intentional or not remains to be seen. I hope we find out soon, once the investigation is concluded.

Someone posted this video and comment over on WWP. Video is short but the video gives a visual idea of where this happened.
 
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Police ID man who fell from State College balcony WJACTV Johnstown WJACTV Johnstown

Video of police measuring balcony that Beau fell from ( or jumped? ) Case is still under investigation)
http://youtu.be/AJgb_45zNSg
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: 10oriocookies on June 03, 2014, 23:58
I still miss BMF every once in a while, LOL \*/

I miss him too.  Wonder what he is up to these days.
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: desert fox on June 26, 2014, 21:48
That is so terrible!
Title: Re: The Death of Beau Griffis
Post by: ethercat on June 27, 2014, 21:18
desert fox, it's good to see you still with us here.   :)