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Offline ethercat

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2012, 20:15 »
Well it seems CARF accredited and oversee's New Life Lodge.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110821/NEWS/110170007/Details-rehab-deaths-New-Life-Lodge-emerge?nclick_check=1

Is that the one NN Arrowhead employees are pointing to to justify having so many deaths, when they say "all rehabs have deaths"?

OMG, it sounds as bad as Narconon, except for the scientology TRs.

There are a number of states that accept accreditation from CARF (Commission on the Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities) as a substitute for state licensure.  There's an older list in a booklet by SAMHSA that I think I posted a link to further back in this thread.

http://www.samhsa.gov/fbci/fbci_counselor_standards.pdf

Look for the answers to this question for each state: Does the State Accept Accreditation Through National Accrediting Organizations in Lieu of Accreditation by the State?  The booklet is from 2005.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2012, 20:25 »
Thanks for fixing it.

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2012, 21:45 »
The corrected information so kindly provided by others actually reinforced the merits of my post!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies

Denial. And no I am not talking about the river!  ;D

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2012, 22:38 »
lol  ;D
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2012, 00:21 »
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2012, 02:06 »
 from ethercat:
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This may also be interesting to the licensing issue:
http://tie.samhsa.gov/Documents/pdf/PerfMgmt4SATx.pdf

Or maybe not.

This document, Performance Management for Substance Abuse Treatment Providers, has some very interesting stuff in it. In picking away at it, I noticed that SAMHSA is only giving recommendations and not specifying requirements at this point. In Section II, they explain a trend toward a Quality Assurance model and away from the traditional Quality Contol model.

The motivation for this comes from its success in the manufacturing sector, where consumer satisfaction is a reasonable measure of performance. Applying this model to health care and drug rehab is alarmingly short sighted.  They do point out various difficulties in determining the true effectiveness of drug rehab programs.  However, if a program's evaluation is based on customer satisfaction, determined from glowing reviews of patients who fear they may not graduate unless they tow the party line, then we're all in trouble. it seems to me that tempting any health provider to weigh managing perception against managing sound practices, as if they were selling hand cream, is just a very bad idea.

So is this the set up? As far as I understand it, at this point anyway:
  • SAMHSA recommends evaluating rehabs based on customer satisfaction. They certify
  • CARF,
    who banded with other accreditation groups under the umbrella of
  • N????   ,
    who in turn, whined that the national licensing group
  • The Joint Commission (TJC)
    made it too hard and too expensive to get license to oversee and grant accreditation to the
  • drug rehabs,
    who need to meet some other set of requirements in order to be licensed by the particular
    state
     in which they operate, whose
  • courts
    enlist outside groups like DCDC that are called
  • drug courts
    who chose which people to place in which rehabs and are evaluated by I'm not exactly sure who, but this involves an "unprecedented level of transparency"

Yes? No? 

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2012, 10:42 »
Not exactly. The "N?" is the National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers (NAATP), which is basically a business and lobbying association. The NAATP doesn't certify or accreditate anything, although some narCONon sites have claimed to be "NAATP certified". They have some interesting things to say on their 'Membership Benefits' page at: http://www.naatp.org/members/memberbenefits.php

Specifically (emphasis added):

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NAATP works to solve accreditation problems. When members told us of frustrations with the Joint Commission, their accreditation process and cost, NAATP sent a delegation directly to the top JCAHO offices in Chicago. Armed with the results of a membership survey, NAATP was able to argue for – and will continue to monitor the implementation of ----improved communications, reduced cost burden, responsiveness, relevance to chemical dependency and timeliness in JCAHO dealings with NAATP members. NAATP was also responsible for the establishment of CARF as an alternative national accreditation system for chemical dependency.

NAATP helps you with the Joint Commission, CARF, and state accreditation.

It should be noted that CARF is NOT a member of the NAATP, but there are some very interesting names on the member list at http://www.naatp.org/members/index.php

I've got no proof, but I suspect William Kent McGregor had some assistance from the NAATP side in getting CARF's accreditation of narCONon Arrowhead pushed through.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2012, 00:45 »
Not exactly. The "N?" is the National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers (NAATP), which is basically a business and lobbying association. The NAATP doesn't certify or accreditate anything, although some narCONon sites have claimed to be "NAATP certified". They have some interesting things to say on their 'Membership Benefits' page at: http://www.naatp.org/members/memberbenefits.php

Specifically (emphasis added):

Quote
NAATP works to solve accreditation problems. When members told us of frustrations with the Joint Commission, their accreditation process and cost, NAATP sent a delegation directly to the top JCAHO offices in Chicago. Armed with the results of a membership survey, NAATP was able to argue for – and will continue to monitor the implementation of ----improved communications, reduced cost burden, responsiveness, relevance to chemical dependency and timeliness in JCAHO dealings with NAATP members. NAATP was also responsible for the establishment of CARF as an alternative national accreditation system for chemical dependency.

NAATP helps you with the Joint Commission, CARF, and state accreditation.

It should be noted that CARF is NOT a member of the NAATP, but there are some very interesting names on the member list at http://www.naatp.org/members/index.php

I've got no proof, but I suspect William Kent McGregor had some assistance from the NAATP side in getting CARF's accreditation of narCONon Arrowhead pushed through.

You might find this email and reply of interest

From: Mary McConnell [mailto:xscilentologist@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:36 PM
To: Donovan Kuehn

Subject: Request for Licensure Verification

dkuehn@naadac.org

To whom it may concern,

I would like to know if  William Kent McGregor ( aka Mac McGregor or Kent McGregor )of McAlester, OK has ever been licensed by your organization as a Master Addiction Counselor ( MAC ). I have already checked with NBCC and none was obtained there.
 
McGregor uses the MAC acronym for professional purposes and I am looking to see if he was ever licensed for this by your organization ( see last paragraph)

http://www.rehab-drug.net/biophysical.html

Mr. McGregor's license to practice Social Work was revoked by the state of New Mexico in 1991 due to his sexually assaulting a patient:

Name License # Profession License Type Status Address
McGREGOR, WILLIAM KENT, I-1454 Social Work Examiners Licensed Independent

Social Worker Revocation
http://rldverification.rld.state.nm.us/Verification/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&license_id=68246&

He received a civil default judgement of over $1,000,000 for this act because he fled the state and refused to appear in court. His licenses was revokes as a result.

http://www.supremecourt.nm.org/pastopinion/VIEW/98ca-017.html

Here is his LinkedIn profile, which does not state any acronyms but does mention his business PITA Group, which trains drug counselors in OK

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kent-mcgregor/13/46/5b2

These are sites which he promotes his business and experience

www.texas-drug-rehabs.org/alcohol.php
http://www.rehab-drug.net/biophysical.html
http://www.texas-drug-rehabs.org/resume.php

According to the information on your website, http://www.naadac.org/certification/533 Mr. McGregor does not meet the criteria for a MAC license.

Does he now or has he ever obtained and held one from your organization?


Thank you very much for your assistance.

Mary McConnell
Narconon Victim Advocate
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Reply 1

From: Donovan Kuehn
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Mary McConnell; Shirley Mikell
Subject: RE: Request for Licensure Verification

Hi Ms. McConnell, thanks for contacting me,

I’m going to connect you with my colleague Shirley Beckett Mikell, our Director of Certification and Education , who can help with this inquiry.


Thanks,

Donovan

Donovan Kuehn
Director of Strategic Planning and Outreach
Phone: 800.548.0497 ext 125
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Request for Licensure Verification
Monday, April 30, 2012 3:57 PM
From: "Shirley Mikell" <shirley@naadac.org>

To: "Donovan Kuehn" <donovan@naadac.org>, "xscilentologist@yahoo.com" <xscilentologist@yahoo.com>

Ms. McConnell,

This individual is not nor has he ever been certified by the National Certification Commission.

Shirley Beckett Mikell
1001 North Fairfax Street, Suite 201
Alexandria VA 22314
800-548-0497 x 107
703-741-7698 fax
I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2012, 08:08 »
Googling the phone number (877) 444-1137 brings up bees nest of these fake referral sites and is linked to this address:
1305 Jackson Court Louisville, CO 80027

This page has links to his blog (where he talks about his wins recruiting people), website, etc:
http://www.blogger.com/profile/12272880785541666126

Phone # appears on this you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_wT054qWk

I reported this one as a scam/fraud. 

It's as if his scam has metastasized.  :(

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2012, 09:47 »
If William Kent McGregor actually has anything at all stating he's an "addiction counseler" it was more than likely issued by narCONon Int.

Interesting, NAADAC appears to be an association of addiction counselers who actually have a code of ethics: http://www.naadac.org/membership/code-of-ethics I suspect narCONon would choke on a few of the items in that list.

The NAATP, which proclaims itself a lobbying group for addiction treatment programs, and gloats about pressure brought on other organizations on their web site, doesn't come off so well in comparison. Especially after looking at the membership list.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2012, 11:03 »
Wow - yes and they would fail in this section especially:

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IX. Communication and Published Works

  • The addiction professional who submits for publication or prepares handouts for clients, students or for general distribution shall be aware of and adhere to copyright laws.

  • The addiction professional honestly respects the limits of present knowledge in public statements related to alcohol and drug abuse. Statements of fact will be based on what has been empirically validated as fact. Other opinions, speculations and conjectures related to the addictive process shall be represented as less than scientifically validated.

  • The addiction professional recognizes contributions of other persons to their written documents.  When a document is based on cooperative work, all contributors are recognized in documents or during a presentation.

  • The addiction professional who reviews material submitted for publication, research or other scholarly purposes must respect the confidentiality and proprietary rights of the authors.

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2012, 11:16 »
The NAATP, which proclaims itself a lobbying group for addiction treatment programs, and gloats about pressure brought on other organizations on their web site, doesn't come off so well in comparison. Especially after looking at the membership list.

I see Per Wickstrom's "A Forever Recovery" on there; have I missed any?
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2012, 11:26 »
I was thinking more along the lines of (emphasis added):

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Standard 2: Legal and Ethical Standards

Addiction professionals will uphold the legal and ethical standards of the profession by being fully cognizant of all federal laws and laws that govern practice of substance use disorder counseling in their respective state.  Furthermore, addiction professionals will strive to uphold not just the letter of the law and the Code, but will espouse aspirational ethical standards such as autonomy, beneficence, non-malfeasance, justice, fidelity and veracity.

1.   Addiction professionals will honestly represent their professional qualifications, affiliations, credentials and experience.

2.   Any services provided shall be identified and described accurately with no unsubstantiated claims for the efficacy of the services.  Substance use disorders are to be described in terms of information that has been verified by scientific inquiry.

3.   The addiction professional strives for a better understanding of substance use disorders and refuses to accept supposition and prejudice as if it were the truth.

4.   The impact of impairment on professional performance is recognized; addiction professionals will seek appropriate treatment for him/herself or for a colleague.  Addiction professionals support the work of peer assistance programs to assist in the recovery of colleagues or themselves.

5.   The addiction professional will ensure that products or services associated with or provided by the member by means of teaching, demonstration, publications or other types of media meet the ethical standards of this code.

6.   The addiction professional who is in recovery will maintain a support system outside the work setting to enhance his/her own well-being and personal growth as well as promoting continued work in the professional setting.

7.   The addiction professional will maintain appropriate property, life and malpractice insurance policies that serve to protect personal and agency assets.

VII. Supervision and Consultation

3. Addiction professionals serving as supervisors shall clearly define and maintain ethical professional, personal and social relationships with those they supervise.  If other professional roles must be assumed, standards must be established to minimize potential conflicts.

4. Sexual, romantic or personal relationships with current supervisees are prohibited.

5. Supervision of relatives, romantic partners or friends is prohibited.

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2012, 18:21 »
Oh yeah - that too!

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2012, 00:51 »
The NAATP, which proclaims itself a lobbying group for addiction treatment programs, and gloats about pressure brought on other organizations on their web site, doesn't come off so well in comparison. Especially after looking at the membership list.

I see Per Wickstrom's "A Forever Recovery" on there; have I missed any?

Down under 'Florida' there's:

Quote
Narconon Gulf Coast
Randy Ross, President
3391 Scenic Hwy. 98 East
Destin, FL 32541
800-253-3168 fax: 850-654-7986

There are several others on the list that are ringing bells, but I haven't had a chance to verify one way or the other.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2012, 10:30 »
Not exactly. The "N?" is the National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers (NAATP), which is basically a business and lobbying association. The NAATP doesn't certify or accreditate anything, although some narCONon sites have claimed to be "NAATP certified". They have some interesting things to say on their 'Membership Benefits' page at: http://www.naatp.org/members/memberbenefits.php

Specifically (emphasis added):

Quote
NAATP works to solve accreditation problems. When members told us of frustrations with the Joint Commission, their accreditation process and cost, NAATP sent a delegation directly to the top JCAHO offices in Chicago. Armed with the results of a membership survey, NAATP was able to argue for – and will continue to monitor the implementation of ----improved communications, reduced cost burden, responsiveness, relevance to chemical dependency and timeliness in JCAHO dealings with NAATP members. NAATP was also responsible for the establishment of CARF as an alternative national accreditation system for chemical dependency.

NAATP helps you with the Joint Commission, CARF, and state accreditation.

It should be noted that CARF is NOT a member of the NAATP, but there are some very interesting names on the member list at http://www.naatp.org/members/index.php

I've got no proof, but I suspect William Kent McGregor had some assistance from the NAATP side in getting CARF's accreditation of narCONon Arrowhead pushed through.

You might find this email and reply of interest

From: Mary McConnell [mailto:xscilentologist@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:36 PM
To: Donovan Kuehn

Subject: Request for Licensure Verification

dkuehn@naadac.org

To whom it may concern,

I would like to know if  William Kent McGregor ( aka Mac McGregor or Kent McGregor )of McAlester, OK has ever been licensed by your organization as a Master Addiction Counselor ( MAC ). I have already checked with NBCC and none was obtained there.
 
McGregor uses the MAC acronym for professional purposes and I am looking to see if he was ever licensed for this by your organization ( see last paragraph)

http://www.rehab-drug.net/biophysical.html

Mr. McGregor's license to practice Social Work was revoked by the state of New Mexico in 1991 due to his sexually assaulting a patient:

Name License # Profession License Type Status Address
McGREGOR, WILLIAM KENT, I-1454 Social Work Examiners Licensed Independent

Social Worker Revocation
http://rldverification.rld.state.nm.us/Verification/Details.aspx?agency_id=1&license_id=68246&

He received a civil default judgement of over $1,000,000 for this act because he fled the state and refused to appear in court. His licenses was revokes as a result.

http://www.supremecourt.nm.org/pastopinion/VIEW/98ca-017.html

Here is his LinkedIn profile, which does not state any acronyms but does mention his business PITA Group, which trains drug counselors in OK

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kent-mcgregor/13/46/5b2

These are sites which he promotes his business and experience

www.texas-drug-rehabs.org/alcohol.php
http://www.rehab-drug.net/biophysical.html
http://www.texas-drug-rehabs.org/resume.php

According to the information on your website, http://www.naadac.org/certification/533 Mr. McGregor does not meet the criteria for a MAC license.

Does he now or has he ever obtained and held one from your organization?


Thank you very much for your assistance.

Mary McConnell
Narconon Victim Advocate
----------------------------

Reply 1

From: Donovan Kuehn
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Mary McConnell; Shirley Mikell
Subject: RE: Request for Licensure Verification

Hi Ms. McConnell, thanks for contacting me,

I’m going to connect you with my colleague Shirley Beckett Mikell, our Director of Certification and Education , who can help with this inquiry.


Thanks,

Donovan

Donovan Kuehn
Director of Strategic Planning and Outreach
Phone: 800.548.0497 ext 125
Earn Continuing Education credits
Visit www.naadac.org for more details.

reply 2
 
Request for Licensure Verification
Monday, April 30, 2012 3:57 PM
From: "Shirley Mikell" <shirley@naadac.org>

To: "Donovan Kuehn" <donovan@naadac.org>, "xscilentologist@yahoo.com" <xscilentologist@yahoo.com>

Ms. McConnell,

This individual is not nor has he ever been certified by the National Certification Commission.

Shirley Beckett Mikell
1001 North Fairfax Street, Suite 201
Alexandria VA 22314
800-548-0497 x 107
703-741-7698 fax


Wow. Just plain WoW!

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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2012, 11:13 »
Based on what's been found so far, I'm beginning to think William Kent McGregor lies a lot about his training and certifications.

I'd love to see the resume he gave CARF before they hired him. I'd also be very interested in any connections he has with the NAATP.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2012, 20:12 »
The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2012, 20:24 »
Narconon does vocational rehab? Surely this is a mistake.
http://www.socialwelfareservices.org/Georgia/Duluth_30096_social_and_welfare_services.php?what=social+services&where=30096&page=9

Well, they use that employment industry code in NV for Narconon Rainbow Ranch so it's not surprising. They 'teach' life skills. NOT

Anyway to get around the regulations and get into certain areas where they can suck in more students, they will go there.
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Re: CARF and Responsibility
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2014, 19:35 »
What Does Drug Rehab Accreditation Really Mean? - PsychCentral
By David Sack, M.D.
July 8, 2014

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Does accreditation ensure quality care? Often, but not always. CARF requires addiction services to incorporate “current research, evidence-based practice, peer-reviewed scientific and health publications, clinical practice guidelines and/or expert professional consensus.” Facilities must have specific written policies and procedures in place and must develop individualized treatment plans.

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/addiction-recovery/2014/07/what-does-drug-rehab-accreditation-really-mean/

Not always.
The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis.
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