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New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« on: July 14, 2012, 10:54 »
Seems Narconon Freedom Center is trying to scam someone out of their money again:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/cult-organizations/narconon-freedom-cen/narconon-freedom-center-i-know-e5018.htm

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He went there in Dec of 2011

On the morning of the sixth day that he was there, our son called and informed us that he felt that there was something wrong there. So we spent a few hours looking up any information on them and found out that they were a front base facility for scientology, which was not in any of there information on their web sites. So a few hours later my son called us and to our surprise he had  already found out that it was scientology. He informed them on the 6th day that he no longer wanted to remain there. And we agreed.

On the 7th day his grandparents notified them that they would be expecting a refund according to the contract which states a refund would be given if my sons stay was 7 days or less. They agreed that the contract would be met.

That has been 7 months ago...

Please visit the link above for more information.  Thanks to RipOffReport, and to the person who alerted me to this complaint.   ;)
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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 17:16 »
This Mom kept asking questions and received a good tip from an honest referral service.

Narconon Freedom Center Center is not a professionally run program, no Jayco license, no licensed staff Albion, Michigan

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I was looking for a drug and alcohol treatment center for my 22 year old son so I called an 800 number listed in my local phone book.  It took me to a "counselor" who asked me about my son's problems so that he could recommend the right program.  He was not a professional but he acted concerned and he highly recommended the Wholistic Freedom Center and said they have a 75% success rate.  It is also less expensive than other programs and lasts 4 to 6 months.  He failed to mention that it is not Jayco accredited and does not have professionals running the program or that it is affliated with Scientology!

I called the program and was told they do not believe in any kind of medicine at all. That raised a red flag for me. The young man wanted me to send my son there alone for entrance the very next day. If my son didn't want to go he recommended an escort who could come to our home and presaude my son to go.  The "escort" would be $1500.00 plus travel expenses to the program.  The young man was not professional and said he was a recovering alcoholic who had remained at the Center to become a staff member.

My son wasn't interested in going yet but the young man from the Freedom center kept calling to offer support and encouragement to my son.  By the 3rd week my son was thinking about going.

In the mean time I called another 800 # referral service and got a young woman who recommended a Jayco approved program in Fla.  I mentioned the Freedom center and asked her if she knew anything about it.  She said it was affiliated with Scientology and that a friend of hers had had a very bad experience there.  The friend had been left alone to detox in a hot tub.  She was never seen by an MD or nurse.  Another red flag.

more at http://www.ripoffreport.com/narconon/advertising-deceptive/narconon-freedom-center-center-ee1ce.htm

I believe her Jayco references are in relation to The Joint Commission, formerly known as JCAHO.
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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 20:47 »
I'm glad there are some referral numbers out there that aren't fake referral scams for Narconon.
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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 21:43 »
Recently I once again was looking for a good rehab, not for myself but a family member.  He doesn't have insurance and I was looking around to see what I could find.  I could not believe how many times narconon showed up in sites that were listed with other treatment facilities. For example a site would list other 12 step and such rehabs, but their phone number and ad was always the biggest.   I would google the number with narconon behind it and there they were.   

At least I know what to look for now, cognitive behavior and detox with vitamin treatment plus their big ad made it easier to wean them out.

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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 22:08 »
Recently I once again was looking for a good rehab, not for myself but a family member.  He doesn't have insurance and I was looking around to see what I could find.  I could not believe how many times narconon showed up in sites that were listed with other treatment facilities. For example a site would list other 12 step and such rehabs, but their phone number and ad was always the biggest.   I would google the number with narconon behind it and there they were.   

At least I know what to look for now, cognitive behavior and detox with vitamin treatment plus their big ad made it easier to wean them out.

I'm glad you were able to help your family member find a legitimate rehab.
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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 09:08 »
Recently I once again was looking for a good rehab, not for myself but a family member.  He doesn't have insurance and I was looking around to see what I could find.  I could not believe how many times narconon showed up in sites that were listed with other treatment facilities. For example a site would list other 12 step and such rehabs, but their phone number and ad was always the biggest.   I would google the number with narconon behind it and there they were.   

At least I know what to look for now, cognitive behavior and detox with vitamin treatment plus their big ad made it easier to wean them out.

I'm glad you're wiser now.   :)

I think they're including the other rehabs to catch any searches by people looking for those types, hoping to divert them.

That's a good suggestion for people who want to avoid calling a Narconon referral number, to google the number and narconon together.  Sometimes the number is also being used directly on a Narconon site.  Another thing they like to do is include the number as an image, so it can't be searched on, so if one can't highlight the number to copy and paste it, it's likely a Narconon referral site.

And they almost always register the domain name under a proxy, or a privacy service provided by the domain registrar.  This isn't absolute proof, because other people in the rehab/referral business have started using this method too, although it's beyond me why any legitimate business would want to hide their ownership information (although I can understand a private individual using a service like this).   

You can check that at many places, but one place is: www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp
You just give the -------.com, without the www, or anything that comes after the .com, .net, .info, etc. and it will return the information about the domain. 

(Just want to make it clear, though, that while I'm recommending their site for whois lookups, there are better places to register a domain than Network Solutions.)
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Re: New RipOffReport: Narconon Freedom Center
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 23:12 »
Thanks for the link.  Yes I did have that happen alot with the copy and paste, funny you say that, because I was getting frustrated trying to work between two tabs with the number.