Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago.
Quote from: Mary_McConnell on March 06, 2013, 10:12Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago. Appearance? Not an topic within my sector of the universe. Actions? Most definitely!
Quote from: SocialTransparency on March 06, 2013, 10:26Quote from: Mary_McConnell on March 06, 2013, 10:12Remember those days when he looked like this? It wasn't that long ago. Appearance? Not an topic within my sector of the universe. Actions? Most definitely!You must have missed the posts where it's shown that he's pushing alternative health and skin care products, sponsoring modeling shows to get donations, and starting a boxing school for young kids through his facility programs.
Leave it to Per to sound like an idiot. He said "it's prelavent".
Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!
Quote from: Blametomcruise on April 06, 2013, 17:38Hey 10oriocookies. I went to Narconon Stonehawk in 2005 and you were a high ranking faculty member at the time.. I believe you were the "ethics" officer or something if i remember correctly. I do not want to put my real name on this post but would love to privately chat sometime. I had some very negative experiences while in the program and left on a very sour note.. I am sure you will probably remember me if we can talk. I am very glad to see that you are stepping up and doing the right thing in speaking out against this fraudulent and dangerous program. I commend you! I used to think you were a huge A-hole but after reading some of your own personal stories and seeing you on rock center nbc last night it has really changed my view of you and the person that you were 8 years ago.. cheers! I am looking forward to being a member of this community and getting to know everybody and sharing my experience with everyone as well as hearing everybody elses!Hello, and welcome to Reaching for the Tipping Point. I have changed your username and your signature because we really don't like to imply any violence on here - it's not what we're about, and it puts the forum in danger. If you don't like what I changed it to, feel free to say what you prefer and I'll change it to your suggestion, as long as it doesn't incite hatred or suggest violence or criminal behavior. You will still need to log in with your original name, though.Now that that's out of the way, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about your experiences.
From: Phil Hart <ednni @ *****>Subject: Re: A Forever RecoveryTo: "Lucas A. Catton" Cc: xorlandi @ *****, y4yvon @ *****, rmq88 @ *****, ocarcabascio @ *****Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 1:20 PMDear Luke; Thanks for the report. Just to fill the vacuum Per has paid back over 2 million in debts stone hawk incurred. I believe all his regges or most of them are on lines in the Org as are a number of his staff. His withdrawal unit is learning assists on line at Scn.org. He has kept FC alive literally by paying for marketing and creating reaches and by helping their regges constantly. He wrote a report back on this current cycle you presented and my Div 1 is looking into it. In fact FC would be done were it not for his efforts. FC has not paid rent in the last 12 months except for one time and again they would have been out on the street had Per not covered for them. He has every vested interest in the world to get cycles into FC and has had to cover mortgage payments, legal bills,leases, and countless other bills by whatever means he could come up with. He just got the back payroll taxes (900K) settled and reduced to about 600K for Stonehawk. He paid for his own sec checks which you dismiss out of hand and with no knowledge about and just assume the worst frankly. You imply that he is NCG or assume so. This was 300hours worth at AOLA with excellent gains. Factually he CSW'd 3 times to open A Forever as a NN First step which was denied because of his connection to Kate which is now nearly handled at great personal expense. This is factually not as you assume that he is just ripping off cycles for his own personal pocketbook. This is not to say that his regges have never been out ethics or neither has Per but your implication that he is being protected by my Org while true is not true in the sense you think. He is protected because he produces constantly and has saved the NN in Michigan. This again is not to say he did not contribute to many of the problems we had back when but he has taken responsibility for all of it. The ED of the BC Org has done a number of seminars in the A Forever facility and they have as many of their staff on service in the Org as the NN does so it is slowly becoming an LRH delivery unit even though not licensed by us. Also despite the crash of the place under Kate, Per has an overall great production records with NN. Are there problems? - yes- but your report really assumes the worst of everything and lacks a ton of data so I hope this fills the vacuum a bit. We have looked into cycles before and in at least one case I remember FC just mis handled the start so badly that they lost it to A Forever.You can send whatever you want to RTC reports officer to answer your last question. OSA is very familiar with the scene there and a CSW is on lines to handle further. You can also go to DCA ABLE Int Gwenda Byrne as she would be external from Dept 20. Call me if you have any questions. ML Phil