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Offline gohogs518

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Suing Narconon
« on: December 16, 2012, 18:14 »
Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on how to get my money back from NN? I was at the South Texas facility and sexual harassed by a staff member and treated extremely bad by all staff and interns there. The program did nothing to help me and they violated my HIPPA rights and lied to my family. Has anyone successfully gotten their money back? Please help!

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 18:30 »
Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on how to get my money back from NN? I was at the South Texas facility and sexual harassed by a staff member and treated extremely bad by all staff and interns there. The program did nothing to help me and they violated my HIPPA rights and lied to my family. Has anyone successfully gotten their money back? Please help!

Welcome to Tipping Point gohogs518.

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences with Narconon in South Texas. Sadly, sexual harassment is not an uncommon complaint at many of the Narconon facilities.

From what I understand, getting your money back from Narconon is not an easy business. Some of the other members on our forum can probably provide more information on that topic.

If you would like to file a complaint with the Texas Department of State Health Services, here is a link to the Health Facility Program complaint section of their website:

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/complain.shtm

I wish you the very best!

Mental Health Consumer and Substance Abuse Client Rights

Texas Substance Abuse Client Rights

Client Bill of Rights

The following text is from the Texas Administrative Code Title 25, Part 1, Chapter 448, Subsection G, Rule §448.701, “Client Rights”.  Please note that the language below refers to legacy agency Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse (TCADA) as the rule was written prior to the consolidation of TCADA with other agencies to become the Department of State Health Services (DSHS).  Where TCADA is mentioned by name in the rule, the same applies to DSHS.

            The facility shall respect, protect, implement and enforce each client right required to be contained in the facility's Client Bill of Rights. The Client Bill of Rights for all facilities shall include:
                You have the right to accept or refuse treatment after receiving this explanation.
                If you agree to treatment or medication, you have the right to change your mind at any time (unless specifically restricted by law).
                You have the right to a humane environment that provides reasonable protection from harm and appropriate privacy for your personal needs.
                You have the right to be free from abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
                You have the right to be treated with dignity and respect.
                You have the right to appropriate treatment in the least restrictive setting available that meets your needs.
                You have the right to be told about the program's rules and regulations before you are admitted, including, without limitation, the rules and policies related to restraints and seclusion. Your legally authorized representative, if any, also has the right to be and shall be notified of the rules and policies related to restraints and seclusion.
                You have the right to be told before admission:
                    the condition to be treated;
                    the proposed treatment;
                    the risks, benefits, and side effects of all proposed treatment and medication;
                    the probable health and mental health consequences of refusing treatment;
                    other treatments that are available and which ones, if any, might be appropriate for you; and
                    the expected length of stay.
                You have the right to a treatment plan designed to meet your needs, and you have the right to take part in developing that plan.
                You have the right to meet with staff to review and update the plan on a regular basis.
                You have the right to refuse to take part in research without affecting your regular care.
                You have the right not to receive unnecessary or excessive medication.
                You have the right to have information about you kept private and to be told about the times when the information can be released without your permission.
                You have the right to be told in advance of all estimated charges and any limitations on the length of services of which the facility is aware.
                You have the right to receive an explanation of your treatment or your rights if you have questions while you are in treatment.
                You have the right to make a complaint and receive a fair response from the facility within a reasonable amount of time.
                You have the right to complain directly to the Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse at any reasonable time.
                You have the right to get a copy of these rights before you are admitted, including the address and phone number of the Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse.
                You have the right to have your rights explained to you in simple terms, in a way you can understand, within 24 hours of being admitted.
            For residential sites, the Client Bill of Rights shall also include:
                You have the right not to be restrained or placed in a locked room by yourself unless you are a danger to yourself or others.
                You have the right to communicate with people outside the facility. This includes the right to have visitors, to make telephone calls, and to send and receive sealed mail. This right may be restricted on an individual basis by your physician or the person in charge of the program if it is necessary for your treatment or for security, but even then you may contact an attorney or the Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse at any reasonable time.
                If you consented to treatment, you have the right to leave the facility within four hours of requesting release unless a physician determines that you pose a threat of harm to yourself and others.
            If a client's right to free communication is restricted under the provisions of subsection (b)(2) of this section, the physician or program director shall document the clinical reasons for the restriction and the duration of the restriction in the client record. The physician or program director shall also inform the client, and, if appropriate, the client's consenter of the clinical reasons for the restriction and the duration of the restriction.

Source Note: The provisions of this §448.701 adopted to be effective September 1, 2004, 29 TexReg 2020; transferred effective September 1, 2004, as published in the Texas Register September 10, 2004, 29 TexReg 8842; amended to be effective June 1, 2006, 31 TexReg 4433

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/mhsa-rights/
« Last Edit: December 16, 2012, 18:37 by mefree »
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Offline ethercat

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 19:17 »
Hi gohogs518, and welcome.  I deleted your duplicate post; I hope you don't mind.  I'm also going to move this one to the Narconon section where it will get more exposure.  The "Forum News, How-to's, Suggestions, and Requests" section is kind of like a ghost town most of the time.   :)

Mary McConnell will probably have some suggestions when she sees your post.  In the meantime, I think the best way to start is by sending them a letter telling them that you want a refund, and outlining why.  Here is a list of Texas consumer agencies you can choose the best one from, and cc: them on your letter.  Actually add "cc: Agency Name" to the bottom of your letter to let Narconon know that you're serious (but of course, fill in the name of the one you think is best instead of "Agency Name").   ;)
http://www.usa.gov/directory/stateconsumer/texas.shtml

Right after your letter is sent (or before), you can start making complaints - to the licensing agency that mefree posted, here (where your experience can be seen by others), and also on http://ripoffreport.com.

Narconon seems to take refund requests more seriously when the person is causing them public relations problems by making complaints left and right and posting about it - small wonder, huh?  If and when they agree to give you a refund, they will probably ask you to sign an agreement not to talk about your experience there, so it's important to say anything you want to say that will warn others before you sign the agreement.

If you originally found Narconon through a site on the internet, you can also make complaints with
the US Government’s Internet Crime Complaint Center: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
and
the FTC (US Government Federal Trade Commission): https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

It would also be great if you could do the survey at http://reachingforthetippingpoint.net/narcononsurvey for the friendly researchers who are trying to gather statistics about Narconon - it is NOT a survey by Narconon, but about Narconon by some volunteers we know.

Good luck!  Let us know if you have any more questions, and we'd like to hear about your experience if you wouldn't mind telling us.   :)
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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 19:47 »
What is the best thing to do about signing their gag document, especially if the person wants to leave open the option to sue? It does not seem that if you are entitled to a refund that they could demand that you sign anything other than acknowledgment that they returned your money and the check cleared.

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 20:23 »
Hi,
I'm really sorry you went through all that.

Getting a refund is not an easy task. There are many variables. It depends upon whether a contract was signed, how long the person stayed in the program, how far one got in the program and who paid for the program.

At WWP, you stated that your mother paid for the program using your trust funds. If she is the manager of the trust, she would have to obtain the refund or sue to get it - not you. I'm sorry you and your mother are not seeing eye to eye on the program. There are many Moms who have been lied to and if you need another mother to talk with her and explain her experiences, let me know and I will get someone for you.
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/i-was-a-victim-of-narconon.106625/page-4#post-2240972

There is nothing against you filing a lawsuit or police complaint against the facility and staff member for sexual harassment. Most attorneys will want a fee upfront to take the case. Usually $5,000 down payment to start but you should check with the bar association or see if  attorney Ray Jeffrey would be willing to take your case or know of someone who would. He has represented people in cases against the Church of Scientology in his state. You would have to inform him that Narconon is a Scientology front group, as I don't know whether he knows this or not.

Ray B. Jeffrey

Partner
Jeffrey & Mitchell, P.C.

2631 Bulverde Road, Suite #105
Bulverde, TX 78163

Telephone: 830.438.8935
Fax: 830.438.4958
Email: rjeffrey@sjmlawyers.com

It's important that you file complaints to the state licensing agency and the state consumer affairs against the facility. Narconon in TX is NOT licensed. It is owned by Narconon Fresh Start , which is a California corporation doing business in TX. 

I don't know why they are allowed to operate without a license but they do. They 'retired' their license years ago. 

Search Criteria    Search By Name
Organization Name:    Narconon
Name    License Number    License Rank    Status    Expiration Date
Narconon South Texas, Inc.    2333    Treatment Head Quarters    Retired    
Narconon South Texas, Inc.    2256    Treatment Head Quarters    Retired


Procedures to Obtain Information about a Substance Abuse Treatment Facility

There is no specific form for submitting your open records request. Your request must be in writing and may be submitted by mail, fax or email. Include enough description and detail about the information requested so we can accurately identify and locate the information. List your name and mailing address so we can provide you with the requested information. We may also provide you with an itemized statement of charges, if applicable, or notify you if the information you are requesting can not be provided promptly.

Mailing address:
Texas Department of State Health Services
Facility Licensing Group/ MC 2835
Disclosure Officer: Delfy Garza
P.O. Box 149347
Austin, TX 78714-9347
Fax number:
(512) 834-6709
Email address:
Delfy Garza
mailto:delfy.garza@dshs.state.tx.us
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The complaint may be mailed, faxed or you can call the complaint hotline.

•Mailing address:
Substance Abuse Facility Investigations ( MC 2823)
Texas Department of State Health Services
PO Box 149347
Austin, TX 78714-9347
•Fax:
(512) 834-6638
•Email: mailto:hfc.complaints@dshs.state.tx.us 
subject: Narcotic or Substance Abuse Treatment Facility Complaint
Health Facility Complaints 
•Complaint hotline:
(800) 832-9623, then press "4" to file a complaint.
Click here to view and print the complaint form. PDF File 10KB
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/PDF/subabuse_complaint_form_Jan_05.pdf

To learn more about standards of care and licensing of facilities:
Texas Administrative Code

   Next Rule>>
TITLE 25   HEALTH SERVICES
PART 1   DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES
CHAPTER 448   STANDARD OF CARE
SUBCHAPTER D   FACILITY LICENSURE INFORMATION
RULE §448.401   License Required
http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=25&pt=1&ch=448&rl=401

Important to consider:


Besides the sexual harassment complaint, you should state that they promised therapy which didn't exist and explain what you received. It is important to list what happened when, in sequence, with approximate dates and names.

Here are the legal names of the facilities they run. One would have to sue the legal entity.

Entity Information:  NARCONON FRESH START
17697 ABD RD
HARLINGEN, TX 78552-1753
 
Status: IN GOOD STANDING - EXEMPT ENTITY 
Registered Agent: JOSEPH SAUCEDA
17697 ABD RD.
HARLINGEN, TX 78553
Registered Agent Resignation Date: 
State of Formation: CA
File Number: 0801241956 
SOS Registration Date: March 10, 2010
Taxpayer Number: 32041405179


https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Narconon%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32041405179

Entity Information:  NARCONON SOUTH TEXAS, INC.
PO BOX 530597
HARLINGEN, TX 78553-0597
 
Status: IN GOOD STANDING - EXEMPT ENTITY 
Registered Agent: JUAN D. VILLARREAL
17697 ABD RD
HARLINGEN, TX 78552
Registered Agent Resignation Date: 
State of Formation: TX
File Number: 0800203203 
SOS Registration Date: May 13, 2003
Taxpayer Number: 17531528689
https://ourcpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Narconon%20&Button=search&Search_ID=17531528689

I hope this is of some help to you.

Mary McConnell

ps: I will post more  info about this facility so that you have some proof they are operating an unlicensed facility in TX.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2012, 20:41 by Mary_McConnell »
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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 21:14 »
Some notes I have on Narconon in TX.

http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/facility.php

Grand opening held for new Narconon center in Harlingen | program, drug, thomason - Local News - Valley Morning Star
October 31, 2008 - 12:27 AM
By DAISY MARTINEZ/Valley Morning Star


17697 ABD Road off of Rangerville Road.

http://www.valleymorningstar.com/news/program_38103___article.html/drug_thomason.html

http://www.narconon.org/drug-rehab/texas/

[..]Fortunately, there is now help for Texas. Six years ago, a new Narconon drug and alcohol rehabilitation center was opened in Harlingen, Texas. Harlingen is located just a stone's throw from two of the heaviest drug trafficking corridors in the country: Brownsville and McAllen.

This Narconon is the only residential facility in the area for those who are determined to kick their addictions and live clean and sober lives. Most of those choosing this Narconon for their recovery from substance abuse come from Texas, Florida, New Mexico and New York. Many Texans who have encountered legal problems necessitating residence in the state solve the dilemma by selecting this Narconon drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility.

Harlingen is served by its own international airport, making transportation to the rehabilitation facility simple. As many as 22 individuals can seek a drug-free life at any one time, and they are serviced by 12 staff. Four staff are Certified Chemical Dependency Counselors. In the last six years, nearly 50 people have graduated to their new drug-free lives.

The facility maintains a home-like atmosphere, with one portion of the house being allocated for women who are overcoming addiction, and one wing being devoted to male residents. The grounds include a gym, volleyball court, swimming pool and laundry. Seventeen acres of Old West terrain surround the drug rehabilitation facility, providing privacy and space to walk and relax.



http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/south-texas-drug-addiction.html


https://secure.idocket.com


Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch

Quickcard: Narconon South Texas, Inc.
Employer Identification Number (EIN):
75-3152568
Address (as of 2007):
1214 Dixieland Road, 6
Harlingen, TX
78552
United States
Proclamation Narconon DAy
http://www.myharlingen.us/docs/1-Agenda_021710regmtg.pdf

Narconon Texas
Drug Rehabilitation and Education Services
1214 Dixieland Rd Suite 6
Harlington, TX 78552
E-mail: narconon.southtexa@sbcglobal.net
1-866-938-3927
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/court.php
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/

The Narconon New Life Detoxification Program is a specialized sauna cleansing process that helps eliminate stored drug residues and physical cravings for drugs.
http://www.lifewithoutdrugs.net/facility.php

Substance Abuse Licensed Sites/By City Order  Excel File 595KB  PDF File 268KB 
Faith-based Exemption Registration Application  Word File   50KB PDF File 12KB 


http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/HFP/apps.shtm#substanceabuse

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/HFP/PDF/Substance%20Abuse%20Facilities/SAByCity.pdf

Substance Abuse Treatment Facilities

     
 http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/HFP/contact.shtm

Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch
http://www.google.com/#q=%22texas+lone+star+victory+ranch%22&hl=en&prmd=imvns&psj=1&ei=3vCuT8RGgrHpAYqwqKQJ&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=b33756a7ca49b63e&biw=1010&bih=526
   
Community Development Block Grant Program
One-Year Action Plan
FY 2011/2012
August 3, 2011

Contact: Tammy DeGannes, Director
City of Harlingen Community Development
502 E. Tyler
Harlingen, Texas 78550
Phone 956-216-5180
Fax: 956-216-5186
Email: tdegannes@myharlingen.us

Substance Abusers ( page 53)
For FY 2011-2012, no specific programs will be funded to assist people with alcohol and other drug addictions. The Rio Grande Valley Council on Alcohol and Drug Abuse, Palmer Drug Abuse, Narconon, Valley Aids Substance Abuse prevention Services, and the Recovery Center continue to provide services to persons with alcohol and other drug addictions.
http://www.myharlingen.us/users/0045/docs/2011-2012/2011-2012%20OYAP.pdf

Search Criteria Search By Name 
Organization Name: Narconon 
Name License Number License Rank Status Expiration Date
Narconon South Texas, Inc. 2333 Treatment Head Quarters Retired   
Narconon South Texas, Inc. 2256 Treatment Head Quarters Retired 


License Number: 2256 Current Date: 05/12/2012 04:46 PM
  Name:  Narconon South Texas, Inc. 

License Rank:  Treatment Head Quarters 
License Status:  Retired 
Expiration Date: 
Effective Rank Date: 
Addresses (for most license types, full address will not display)     
Primary Loc  Address  1214 Dixieland Rd., Suite 4 
HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
 Phone Number:  9564285322 
 
Mailing Address  Address  HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 

License Number: 2256 Current Date: 12/20/2011 08:30 AM
  Name:  Narconon South Texas, Inc. 

License Rank:  Treatment Head Quarters 
License Status:  Retired 
Expiration Date: 
Effective Rank Date: 
Addresses (for most license types, full address will not display)     
Primary Loc  Address  1214 Dixieland Rd., Suite 4 
HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
 Phone Number:  9564285322 
 
Mailing Address  Address  HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
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License Number: 2333 Current Date: 05/12/2012 04:39 PM
  Name:  Narconon South Texas, Inc. 

License Rank:  Treatment Head Quarters 
License Status:  Retired 
Expiration Date: 
Effective Rank Date: 
Addresses (for most license types, full address will not display)     
Primary Loc  Address  1214 Dixieland Rd., Suite 4 
HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
 Phone Number:  9564285322 
 
Mailing Address  Address  HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 

License Number: 2333 Current Date: 12/20/2011 08:31 AM
  Name:  Narconon South Texas, Inc. 

License Rank:  Treatment Head Quarters 
License Status:  Retired 
Expiration Date: 
Effective Rank Date: 
Addresses (for most license types, full address will not display)     
Primary Loc  Address  1214 Dixieland Rd., Suite 4 
HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
 Phone Number:  9564285322 
 
Mailing Address  Address  HARLINGEN , TX 
CAMERON 
78552 
US 
 
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2009 Texas Code
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE
TITLE 6. FOOD, DRUGS, ALCOHOL, AND HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES
CHAPTER 464. FACILITIES TREATING ALCOHOLICS AND DRUG-DEPENDENT PERSONS 

Complaints

Any person having knowledge that substandard care has been provided by any of the health care facilities regulated by the Texas Department of State Health Services may file a complaint.

Information to Supply When Making a Complaint
•Your name, address and telephone number. Every effort is made to protect your confidentiality, however, we must provide this information if requested in accordance with the Public Information Act. Or, you may make a complaint and remain anonymous.
•The name, address, telephone number and date of birth or age and the social security number, if available, of the patient(s)/client(s) referenced in the complaint.
•Date(s) of incident(s).
•Specify all facts directly related to the incident(s) being reported.

The complaint may be mailed, faxed or you can call the complaint hotline.

•Mailing address:
Substance Abuse Facility Investigations ( MC 2823)
Texas Department of State Health Services
PO Box 149347
Austin, TX 78714-9347
•Fax:
(512) 834-6638
•Email:  hfc.complaints@dshs.state.tx.us
subject=Narcotic or Substance Abuse Treatment Faciltiy Complaint

Health Facility Complaints 
•Complaint hotline:
(800) 832-9623, then press "4" to file a complaint.
Click here to view and print the complaint form. PDF File 10KB
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/PDF/subabuse_complaint_form_Jan_05.pdf


Contact Information for the Enforcement Unit
Mailing Address:
Texas Department of State Health Services
Enforcement Unit
PO Box 149347
Austin, TX 78714-3199

Toll-free Phone Number:
1/888/973-0022

Phone Number:
512/834-6665

Fax Number:
512/834-6625

enforcement@dshs.state.tx.us subject=Enforcement Inquiry


There is no specific form for submitting your open records request. Your request must be in writing and may be submitted by mail, fax or email. Include enough description and detail about the information requested so we can accurately identify and locate the information. List your name and mailing address so we can provide you with the requested information. We may also provide you with an itemized statement of charges, if applicable, or notify you if the information you are requesting can not be provided promptly.

Mailing address:
Texas Department of State Health Services
Facility Licensing Group/ MC 2835
Disclosure Officer: Delfy Garza
P.O. Box 149347
Austin, TX 78714-9347

Fax number:
(512) 834-6709

Email address:
Delfy Garza

mailto delfy.garza@dshs.state.tx.us
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/openrecs_subabuse.shtm

The Public Information Act
Texas Government Code, Chapter 552 , Public Information, gives you the right to access government records, and an officer for public information and officer's agent may not ask why you want them. All government information is presumed to be available to the public. Certain exceptions may apply to the disclosure of the information. Governmental bodies shall promptly release requested information that is not confidential by law, either constitutional, statutory, or by judicial decision, or information for which an exception to disclosure has not been sought.

Rights of Requestors
You have the right to:

•Prompt access to information that is not confidential or otherwise protected;
•Receive treatment equal to all other requestors, including accommodation in accordance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) requirements;
•Receive certain kinds of information without exceptions, like the voting record of public officials, and other information;
•Receive a written statement of estimated charges, when charges will exceed $40, in advance of work being started and opportunity to modify the request in response to the itemized statement;
•Choose whether to inspect the requested information (most often at no charge), receive copies of the information or both;
•A waiver or reduction of charges if the governmental body determines that access to the information primarily benefits the general public;
•Receive a copy of the communication from the governmental body asking the Office of the Attorney General for a ruling on whether the information can be withheld under one of the accepted exceptions, or if the communication discloses the requested information, a redacted copy;
•Lodge a written complaint about overcharges for public information with the Office of the Attorney General. Complaints of other possible violations may be filed with the
county or district attorney of the county where the governmental body, other than a state agency, is located. If the complaint is against the county or district attorney, the complaint must be filed with the Office of the Attorney General.
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hfp/openrecs.shtm


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Narconon Fresh Start operates five drug rehabilitation facilities
delivering the Narconon drug rehabilitation program under a trademark
license from Narconon International. This unique 3-to-5 month program
includes a detoxification procedure and courses in life skills. During the year more than 600 individuals received approximately 509,600 hours of drug rehabilitation services including over 6,000 life skills courses, enabling them to lead more ethical and drug-free lives.
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/330/330911677/330911677_201012_990.pdf

NN NV Rainbow Canyon
NN Texas Lone Star Victory Ranch
NN Sunshine Summit Lodge
NN JLB Ranch
NN huntington harbor house
 

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TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF
STATE HEALTH SERVICES
CHAPTER 448
SUBSTANCE ABUSE
STANDARDS OF CARE RULES
  §448.406. Inactive Status and Closure.
(a) Inactive Status. The Commission will automatically retire the license of a facility site in which services are suspended or not provided for more than 60 days, unless the facility sends a writtenrequest to place the license on inactive status. To be eligible for inactive status, the facility must bein good standing with no pending legal actions or investigations.
(1) If granted, inactive status is limited to 60 days. The licensee is responsible for alllicensure fees and for proper maintenance of client records while on inactive status.
(2) To reactivate the license, the facility shall submit a written request to reactivate the license no later than the date the inactivation period expires.
(3) If the license is not reactivated, it will be automatically retired at the end of the 60 day deactivation period.
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=18979
I am a volunteer advocate for victims of the Narconon scam. I am a former scientologist. I post anonymously. Mary McConnell is my long time nom de plume. Feel free to contact me for assistance in righting the wrongs.

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 20:34 »
Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on how to get my money back from NN? I was at the South Texas facility and sexual harassed by a staff member and treated extremely bad by all staff and interns there. The program did nothing to help me and they violated my HIPPA rights and lied to my family. Has anyone successfully gotten their money back? Please help!

Well, the best way to start the process is a  typed up strongly worded letter sent certified mail, return receipt requested.  Be sure to use the words false, fraud, fraudulent, abuse, abused, and abusive as liberally as possible; and tell them you intend to hire an aggressive trial lawyer and to file a major lawsuit, unless they send a full refund - state the specific dollar amount - in 20 days.  Keep a copy and the return receipt green card when it comes back to you.

If they contact you, do not talk to them except to repeat what you said in the letter and tell them they best send the check or you will file a lawsuit. Be sure to get the person's name and write it down. And tell them to never call you again.  Anything they have to say, put it in writing.

If they show up or you are further harassed at all, call the police, file a complaint, get a copy of the police report.

If the letter doesn't do the trick, call one time within the first 3 or 4 days after the deadline and demand to speak with somebody with some real authority.  Again, repeat what you said in the letter and tell them they best send the check or you will file a lawsuit.  Again, be sure to get the person's name and write it down. Tell them you are not talking to them after this call and to instead put it in writing.

If all else fails, find a local trial lawyer who is willing to do some research and learn what he is going to be dealing with, and who actually takes cases to trial ... you know, a real lawyer with guts who will kick ass and take no crap from fraudsters.  There are definitely a bunch of that type in Texas.  Find one.

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 21:04 »
Great advice, Witnessman!   Y--O-||

Do you mind if we keep that for reuse in the future? 
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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 22:05 »
Yes, reuse it well and often.
 
The point is they might or probably will pay, but only if they realistically think the situation will become a bigger problem than the usual "I want my money back" request.

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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 07:40 »
Good points.  Having been on the receiving end of those letters I can tell you they work.  I wouldnt do 20 days though, more like 7.  They didnt give you 20 days to cough up the money for entry into the program i would imagine.

Also, any attorney you hire, have them come to this website and others to get informed.  They may not know the breadth of the problem.

Ensure you get copies of anything you signed and WHEN you signed them.  NN's try to get ironclad legal agreements.  If you signed them while in withdrawal or before I believe they are inadmissable or if the person who paid didnt sign then its also may be inadmissable.  They try to use those as leverage but typically will still settle if you bring a suit against them.
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Re: Suing Narconon
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2012, 21:01 »
CarolinaGirl9 aka gohogs518 wrote at WWP Today at 3:16 PM
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Just wanted to update everyone, I called the health inspector to go look at the south texas facility. Where he discovered rat feces all over the kitchen and storage room for food and also discovered they have been operating without a permit since opening. They issued a warning and will continue to inspect the facility frequently. $33,000 to live in a rat infested house with completely disgusting food conditions. Thanks a lot narconon.
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/i-was-a-victim-of-narconon.106625/page-4#post-2244425

Good for her!  Hope she writes or contacts the state licensing and reports they are operating an illegal facility, too
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