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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2013, 17:49 »
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Business Name                    FBN Number     Registrant       File Date

VISTA BAY    2011-0002096    NARCONON NORTHEN CALIFORNIA    10/7/2011

VISTA BAY REHABILITATION SERVICES    2011-0002096    NARCONON NORTHEN CALIFORNIA    10/7/2011

VISTA BAY TREATMENT CENTERS    2011-0002096    NARCONON NORTHEN CALIFORNIA    10/7/2011

VISTA BAY    2006-0002004    NARCONON NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    10/10/2006

VISTA BAY TREATMENT CENTERS    2006-0002004    NARCONON NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    10/10/2006

VISTA BAY REHABILITATION SERVICES    2006-0002004    NARCONON NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    10/10/2006

NARCONON NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    2012-0000183    NARCONON NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    1/18/2012

REDWOOD CLIFFS    2013-0000064    NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    1/8/2013

REDWOOD CLIFFS DRUG REHAB    2013-0000064    NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    1/8/2013

NARCONON REDWOOD CLIFFS    2013-0000064    NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    1/8/2013

NARCONON VISTA BAY    2007-0000251    NARCONON OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA    1/29/2007
 End Of List
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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2013, 17:51 »
Narconon never ceases to amaze me.  I wonder what Arrowhead's new name is going to be.
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Vista Bay Video posted to TonyO's blog:
http://rutube.ru/video/embed/6337498

Long, but it's interesting to see some faces to put with names we've heard about.  This must have been made for the employees.  I can't imagine this was intended to attract customers.   ??? 

Worth watching just for the WTF factor - and of course, anyone considering going to Vista Bay should watch it.




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That is one of the most absurd ( but informative to us) videos I have ever seen. Isn't Redwood Cliff's stated in the video to be the Treasury office? lol

Dr Stein is a whoa, lol
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I couldn't stomach watching the whole thing, but found the re-enactment of the reassuring (false) call to the parents disturbing  - all done with a smile.
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I couldn't stomach watching the whole thing, but found the re-enactment of the reassuring (false) call to the parents disturbing  - all done with a smile.

There are people in that video with a history I am familiar with from all the complaints I have received over the years and from court records.

For example, at around 13:32 we see Scott Friend. Scott is the staff member from Vista Bay who gave car keys and permission to Justin Smith to leave Narconon in Watsonville for a spin in the car while Justin was on the program. This resulted in the death of Justin and his passenger
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106462369/Negligent-Death-Lawsuit-Catherine-Smith-et-al-vs-Narconon-Northern-California

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    Complaint for Damages "Wrongful Death" of Justin Smith (Plaintiff's son)

    This case concerns the death of Justin Smith, 22 years old,
    following a July 13, 2000 collision when he drove his 1966 Mustang
    to excessive speed and it went off the road (a few hundred yards
    from the turnoff to Narcononís Watsonville facility) and hit a tree.

    Justin was a client at the Narconon facility in Watsonville,
    and the allegation is that Narconon staffer Scott Friend wrongly
    provided Justin the keys to his vehicle while he was involved
    in treatment (which enabled the accident to occur). It is not
    believed that drugs or alcohol were a factor in this accident,
    per the initial CHP report.


    There were also 3 other persons in that vehicle, and of them
    a fellow client (Chad Skoglie, age 27) also died, and two
    Narconon staffers (Eric Petersen, age 31, and John Vereeke, age 33)
    were seriously injured.


    Chad Skoglie was the son of xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx Lxxxx Sxxxxxx,
    and a later complaint (which was consolidated into this case)
    was filed on behalf of minor children "(N)" and "(McK)"
    (regarding the loss of their relation) who resided
    with their grandmother in Idaho.

    Justin had obtained his vehicle following phone calls made to
    his mother, who had planned to remove his vehicle from a
    residential garage. Justin feared that his black 1966 Mustang,
    a prized possession, would get "destroyed" from "sitting in the
    street" near a 7-11 convenience store. Justin was in treatment
    for methamphetamine use, following unspecified legal action for
    possession (possibly of methamphetamine or paraphernalia),
    and was described by Narconon as "typical for admission (to their
    program)": "smart," "rebellious," "in denial, and in "legal trouble."

    The Plaintiff's claim was that providing car keys to an addict
    in treatment, was a violation of not only treatment rules but
    could also be seen as negligence. Narconon's attorney,
    Steven D. Werth of Low, Ball & Lynch of San Francisco,
    countered that the decedent was "negligent himself." Narconon's
    defense largely rested on a combination of "cross-complaint" legal
    filings described by the Plaintiff's attorney as being "without any
    legal or factual theory or justification" and "solely for the
    purpose of and intention to intimidate, coerce an/or deter Smith's
    pursuit of her original claim," and depositions of Narconon staff,
    (some of whom were located by private investigators after being
    transferred to a women's shelter in New Mexico, and others who
    repeated the assertion that decedent Smith had exhibited speed as
    he left the facility just prior to the accident).

    Narconon claimed that the "release of liability" signed by Justin
    when he entered his treatment program on May 8, 2000, included
    language which prevented "any legal action or litigation against
    Narconon Inc., its Board of Directors, members, employees, or
    L. Ron Hubbard arising for any reason out of my participation in
    the Narconon program."

    Staff at Narconon Watsonville in 2000 were listed as:
    Tyson Bates, Joey Burnham, John Burns, Scott Friend, Angie Manson,
    Daniel Manson, Laurie Miller, Andy Troy Moore, Lisa Moore,
    Eric Petersen, Tatsuya Sakamoto, xxxxx xxxxxx, William Starr,
    P.J. Treat, and John Vereeke. Others named (possibly clients)
    were: Ed Hocking, Frank Montara, Mr. Papastefanou, and
    Richard Prescott. A local resident who witnessed the accident
    was "Hagger."

    Eric Petersen, injured in accident, (was Narconon employee)
    Last at: Redondo Technologies, Redondo Beach CA 90277

    Smith's mother subsequently established a drug-abuse
    information program, seen at welcome to the Jason Foundation,
    which offers scholarships to students in drug counseling
    curricula, and which provides information on state legislation
    requiring training of drug counselors.

    (Excerpt from FREEDOM November-December 2005)

    It was Thursday July 13, 2000, but I remember it like it
    was yesterday. I was standing in my living room at 11:30 PM
    listening to two police officers tell me my twenty-two year
    old son had died in a car accident earlier that evening.
    My first words were, "It can't be Justin; he's in a safe place".
    It was Justin. In the weeks and months that followed,
    I learned that he had not been in a safe place. I learned that:

    In the drug addiction field there were few regulations;

    Marketing claims publicized by drug rehabilitation clinics could be unsubstantiated;

    Residential drug rehabilitation facilities could obtain state licensure by writing their own program;

    Patient recruiting and interventions could be sold on a commission basis;

    Drug addiction counselors were not required to have any formal education or training;

    Patient recruiting and interventions could be sold on a commission basis;

    Drug addiction counselors were not required to have any formal education or training;

    There were no regulations regarding length of time a counselor needed to be sober before working with clients;

    Sexual relationships between staff members and/or clients could go undisciplined;

    Alcohol and other drugs could be kept and consumed by staff on residential rehabilitation premises;

    Traffic accidents involving drunken staff and clients could go unreported to proper authorities;

    Sexual harassment and verbal abuse of staff and clients could occur without consequence;

    Even rumors of rape and sexual perversity warranted no investigation.
    I was appalled and sickened at what I heard from previous clients, staff
    and family members.

    I asked myself how I, or other parents, could have known what was going
    on behind closed doors and the answer is that we could not.
    The Justin Foundation was founded because everyone in need of
    treatment for alcohol or drug addiction should have a SAFE place to go.
    Most of us parents do not know much about addictive drugs, so
    The Justin Foundationís first task was to create a parent-friendly
    web site at The Justin Foundation offering information regarding addictive drugs.

    The second goal was to see mandatory education and training for
    drug addiction counselors. The newly enacted state regulations are
    a start. We are hopeful the newly formed CAADAC/PAC will be able to
    influence legislators to strengthen requirements.
    The Justin Foundation stands ready to support that effort and has
    agreed to serve on the Counselor Certification and Oversight Committee
    being formed by the State.

    In today's world of addiction recovery, people can be in unsafe situations
    now, so it is imperative we get more counselors that are qualified into
    the field as quickly as possible. This year The Justin Foundation started
    a scholarship fund to assist people who are committed to obtaining
    addiction counselor certification obtain a formal education.
    To insure professionalism, only CAADAC approved study programs qualify.
    Recipients receive $500.00 per semester for tuition and books, which is
    renewable as long as the student maintains a B average in six or more units.
    We were able to award two scholarships for the 2005-06 academic year.
    In 2006-07, we will award as many scholarships as we can fund.
    If you can help with this endeavor, very dollar you send will go
    directly into the scholarship fund and is 100% tax deductible.


14 mins we see Dr Stephen Stein acting like a pimp... listed in several lawsuits, in particular the Evans case
http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=402.20
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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2013, 07:40 »
It appears that Narconon Northern California/Vista Bay/Redwood Cliffs, et. al. is playing the name game again.  According to this state document http://www.adp.ca.gov/licensing/pdf/Status_Report.pdf, which I believe is just from last month, they are now changing their Placerville facility to be Narconon Pinecone Grove and their South Lake Tahoe facility to be Narconon Emerald Pines.  What's next?

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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2013, 10:37 »
It appears that Narconon Northern California/Vista Bay/Redwood Cliffs, et. al. is playing the name game again.  According to this state document http://www.adp.ca.gov/licensing/pdf/Status_Report.pdf, which I believe is just from last month, they are now changing their Placerville facility to be Narconon Pinecone Grove and their South Lake Tahoe facility to be Narconon Emerald Pines.  What's next?

LOL! A little birdie told me that since all the lawsuits began 2 years ago things have been so bad, PR and sales wise, that this name change strategy was born,. Like Narconon Fresh Start changing from NArconon Southern California, and filing fictitious names for some of their other facilities
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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2013, 08:51 »
If they're part of the NN Int "family", do they still have to reveal their link to narCONon to avoid misleading advertising, and/or fraud charges??

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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2013, 10:14 »
If they're part of the NN Int "family", do they still have to reveal their link to narCONon to avoid misleading advertising, and/or fraud charges??

Well, these are just fictitious names, most if not all registered with the county, Narconon Vista Bay doing business as... Narconon Tahoe doing business as... But because they listed these names with the ADP licensing, they are not being 'deceptive' to that extent. When it comes to their advertising... one would have to look to see if they are omitting the Narconon name from web sites they have under these names... On Redwood Cliffs they did have the Narconon logo discretely there at the top so no deception. But are there more web sites without the Narconon name? That is a project awaiting some attention. Right now it's what they and other referrer sites have been saying over the phone when selling these programs that points to deception. 
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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2013, 16:48 »
Yes. In a lot of the advertising the Narconon name is conveniently dropped.

Example:
Redwood Cliffs Rehab | Revolutionary Drug Treatment |
redwoodcliffs rehabdotsomething or other
Redwood Cliffs Drug Rehab is a residential, long-term drug and alcohol treatment program with decades of success. Get your life and health back for good.
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Re: Narconon Vista Bay changing its name to Redwood Cliffs Rehab?
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2013, 18:00 »
For the most part, the general public is not likely to check DBAs or check with the licensing agency.  The first they may find out about it will probably be when their credit card statement comes through with a charge to Narconon - unless NN has set up another merchant account for these charges.  At least for those who don't get suspicious due to the peculiarities and search online first.
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