The list of choices seems to go on and on. Let alone the difference sometimes between what a family member and counselor would choose for rehabilitation versus the choice most commonly made by the person addicted.With all these choices in mind, we have designed a free set of tools you can use to help expedite the decision making process by providing you with personalized recommendations based on pre-screening for key factors specific to your needs and desires about recovery. We have the rehab centers listing of over 11,000 rehab centers easily accessible on the site. We also offer a toll free hotline that is manned by volunteers and other staff who are trained to assist you in narrowing your search by excluding the myriad of treatment options that simply don't make sense in your particular case. Between these two very valuable resources you should be able to quickly limit your choices to a select few rehab centers which you can then call with our tailored questionnaire to determine exactly the right facility to go with.If you would like to get the ball rolling today and get your personalized pre-screened list of matching rehab centers, give us a call NOW. Our consultants are standing by. Your call is confidential and we respect your privacy. You're email will not be given to anyone and you're information is secure and private so get started today.
They are using a proxy to protect the fact that Narconon runs this site. Findarehabnow.comhttp://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=findrehabnow.comQuote... Between these two very valuable resources you should be able to quickly limit your choices to a select few rehab centers which you can then call with our tailored questionnaire to determine exactly the right facility to go with....What bulloney
... Between these two very valuable resources you should be able to quickly limit your choices to a select few rehab centers which you can then call with our tailored questionnaire to determine exactly the right facility to go with....
We recommend that you select a few choices, and then thoroughly research the ones you’ve chosen. ...Below, we offer you some tips to narrow down your selection....On our next page, Researching a Rehab Facility, we will offer suggestions for some more research you can do once you have narrowed your list down to several or a few.
Questions to ask... What does the program entail? Is the treatment evidence based? Is the treatment customized to each individual? How long will the program last? Is there an aftercare program? If so, what does it consist of? Who are the key staff members and what are their qualifications? If any staff members are ex-users, how long have they been clean? How long has it been since they completed any programs? Who is the the program director and medical director? What happens in case of a relapse? What is the policy with regard to refunds if you are dissatisfied or don’t complete the program? What is the policy is with regard to employment of counselors and other staff members? How are medical issues or existing medical conditions dealt with or accommodated? Are there medically licensed professionals onsite? What are their qualifications and what is their field of expertise? What are their hours of availability? Are family members allowed to visit or have contact with the person in treatment? When, and under what circumstances? Are you allowed to tour the facility first before signing anything?More Questions... (see link)
What credentials do they have now?
Many Narconon facilitys are racing to get staff members "credentials" since such a pulic outcry has been voiced about unprofessional staff and the decietful promises of counseling and "trained counselors" on hand at different facilitys. I was promised one-on-one counseling for my addiction, and so were my parents--but that just wasn't true. To be a drug counselor and to obtain a certificate stating one is qualified to be so is simple, a staff member is sent to Narconon Freshstart California were you are "trained" and given credentials. That easy.How much training is involved at Narconon Freshstart compared to a State run Proffesional training is something of a joke, what is counseling any way to people who stubornly believe Ethics, Dynanics and conditions are the only thing a "student" needs in life. Because i want the Reader to knowthat drug counseling Doesn't exist in Narconon,do to the fact that the "student" learns control and he or she ultimately controls everything-- this is what is taught and drilled into your head day in and day out so who needs counseling if you have the magic books and the power to do it yourself???To have a cert stating person(s) are qualified drug couselors is just a ploy and a tactic used to save face,not ONE time and not One moment was my drug and alcohol addiction addressed--any comment or personal doubt or questions were met with disdain and a snyde retort: "better get your ethics and conditions in"--"perhaps you need to take the courses over again, you might have a misunderstood word"Yes, one thing came clear to me, i couldn't talk about my addiction to anyone without a KR written against me, also do you REALLY think Narconon is going to suggest A.A, N.A.or a half-way house After graduating??--Heck No!!--A.A and N.A are resented by staff and taught that ONLY Narconon saves lives.Go to a Half-way house?? Heck no, "intern with us" Aftercare??--"intern with us" Suggesting anything besides Narconon never happens. It is with regret i'll say that many "retreads came, did all the work and jumped through the hoops and died anyway....could there have been aftercare, counseling or a person to call and just say to them: " i'm having a toughe time i need help"--No--i'm afraid not because once youre out and they got Your money you don't exist, i've been to some really cheap rehabs and they offer more help than Narconon Ever did....
After a bit of digging I found that to call yourself a "professional" Alcohol and/or Drug Counselor you have to be licensed by these people: http://www.okdrugcounselors.org/If you're not licensed, and call yourself a "professional" Counselor, you're committing fraud.
Quote from: 10oriocookies on December 24, 2013, 10:15Its sad that Kent and other Scientologists can form their own counselor certification agency (PITA Group), certify untrained Narconon staff left and right and get away with it. Its like me forming a board to certify surgeons. I have no fucking business doing it and would get skewered for doing it, yet they are left to operate with impunity.In California, PITA is not recognized. Most Narconon staff go through the Breining Institute for an The Registered Addiction Specialist ( RAS ) license. So anyone coming to work at any Narconon in a post that requires licensing in California must get a RAS license. Most go through Breining Institute. This goes for all those who come from other Narconon outside of CA. There is a reciprocity arrangement with other states but the license has to be transferred http://breining.edu/RASReciprocity.htmMcGregor and PITA cohort Claire Pinelli both got their CSC ( Clinical Supervisor Credential ) licenses through Breining. Kent is a licensed supervisor there like he is in OK. He's also listed on their list elsewhere under his name as an RAS in training. He's got his claws into their system... but he doesn't do initial RAS applications. He just supervises clinical hours, like he supposedly does in OK. Probably does Continuing Ed classes for them, too.One can search here to find names of those RAS or other license certified herehttp://breining.edu/ras_professionals.htmNote: at the above link, on the botton it says:QuoteFEATURED SPECIALIST Name: Luria Dion, RAS II, CSCLocation: Glendale, California Luria works for Narconon Fresh Start
Its sad that Kent and other Scientologists can form their own counselor certification agency (PITA Group), certify untrained Narconon staff left and right and get away with it. Its like me forming a board to certify surgeons. I have no fucking business doing it and would get skewered for doing it, yet they are left to operate with impunity.
FEATURED SPECIALIST Name: Luria Dion, RAS II, CSCLocation: Glendale, California
OK friends and neighbors, with all of the recent goings on with certification, I began to wonder about the RAS cert that Narconons in CA use. The Breining Institute, which sells the exam, is legit. And while I did not take said exam, I knew several staff who did and heard talk of the same behavior (answers to the test given, etc). Also, and here I think is the loophole, one must have 155 hours of formal education in the field of addiction to be a bona fide RAS. The Breining Institute of course offers their own program to meet this requirement, but it takes some time and is costly and there is simply no way that Narconon gives up the time or the money. And as we all know, many, many, MANY Narconon staff lack the education in this field. I have contacted the Breining Institute regarding their policy should it become apparent that false claims were made in the process of becoming an RAS. I eagerly await their reply.
Ah, yes. Sorry, eh? I am in the process of filing a complaint with the ADP. I could also file a complaint with the Breining institute, but they require a complaint filed per RAS, whereas with the ADP I can file a more general complaint and then they, after investigating, would follow up with Breining with the specifics. Breining was prompt in their response and provided all applicable links. And so, here's to hoping that the ADP is prompt as well.Sorry to leave you hanging.
Mary, I thought Fallenangle was talking about the training (?) Narconon provides if the client wants to join staff.
To be a drug counselor and to obtain a certificate stating one is qualified to be so is simple, a staff member is sent to Narconon Freshstart California were you are "trained" and given credentials. That easy.Fallenangle,Where in California is the training offered?
http://www.americanacademy.org/resources/membersearch.aspxhttps://www.caadac.org/registry/https://www.caadac.org/registry/http://www.breining.edu/ras_professionals.htmhttp://www.caddtp.org/http://www.caarr.org/certifications/our-certification-lists/cas-curr.html
Thanks Mary, do you know where the main training facility for Fresh Start is located?
Yes, one thing came clear to me, i couldn't talk about my addiction to anyone without a KR written against me...
The questions I would have for any "credentialed" Narconon staff member would be "How exactly do you use your counseling training to help addicts?"
What credentials or education do non-medical staff members have, and how do they use this in the program?
What I'd like to hear more from is any of the actual licensed therapists that were unfortunate enough to actually attend a Narconon as a student. It would be interesting to hear their spin on things.