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Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« on: December 10, 2015, 17:14 »
Narconon Warner Springs has jumped on the "Ideal Narconon" bandwagon.  I'm not sure what that really means, because just the fact that it's a Narconon means it's far from ideal for anyone who needs a rehab.   :P  Anyway, here are some photos of the "opening" that someone sent us.  Click for bigger versions.





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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 07:13 »
Strange. The facade reminds me of a pre-school.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 08:00 »
Where children play at being drug rehab counselors? 
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 12:32 »
Narconon Warner Springs has jumped on the "Ideal Narconon" bandwagon.  I'm not sure what that really means, because just the fact that it's a Narconon means it's far from ideal for anyone who needs a rehab.   :P  Anyway, here are some photos of the "opening" that someone sent us.  Click for bigger versions.






Anyone know who spoke at the re-re-re opening? This has got to be the worst rebranding of a tainted brand I have ever witinessed.

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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 08:34 »
I have no idea.  I don't know if anyone inclined to talk to us attended.   :)

It's odd that if you look at the first photo, there's a seated audience centered around the green display (and one person sitting aside who must not want to take part), and if you look at the third photo, there's a seated audience centered around part of the building.

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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 10:30 »
I'm beginning to wonder if the narCONon "Ideal" push is part of eliminating NN Int and moving them directly under ABLE/OSA control? It will be interesting to see if there's a flurry of IRS 1023 filings to obtain "independent" tax exempt status, rather than being part of the NN Int Group Exemption.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 12:05 »
Good point.  They can't be under the NN Int umbrella any more because they no longer exist.  The Narconons will have to get their own exemption or heaven forbid, they actually pay taxes.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 15:23 »
I have no idea.  I don't know if anyone inclined to talk to us attended.   :)

It's odd that if you look at the first photo, there's a seated audience centered around the green display (and one person sitting aside who must not want to take part), and if you look at the third photo, there's a seated audience centered around part of the building.

<Davy mode on>There were thousands in attendance!</Davy mode off>
That Green display/podium combo has been used at other narCONon re-re-re openings.

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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 16:14 »
Good point.  They can't be under the NN Int umbrella any more because they no longer exist.  The Narconons will have to get their own exemption or heaven forbid, they actually pay taxes.

I sent a 'heads-up' to the IRS Exempt Organizations folks about NN Int essentially closing it's doors, with a request they check the subordinate entities to see if they use GEN 2595 for the entire year, or only up until NN Int went away, when they file for 2015.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 16:51 »
Yup.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 20:22 »
Good work, BigBeard!

However, they still exist as a registered California non-profit corporate entity.

 Data is updated to the California Business Search on Wednesday and Saturday mornings. Results reflect work processed through Tuesday, December 22, 2015. Please refer to Processing Times for the received dates of filings currently being processed. The data provided is not a complete or certified record of an entity.
Entity Name:   NARCONON INTERNATIONAL
Entity Number:   C0598820
Date Filed:   05/20/1970
Status:   ACTIVE
Jurisdiction:   CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:   450 N BRAND BLVD STE 600
Entity City, State, Zip:   GLENDALE CA 91203
Agent for Service of Process:   TIM BOLWES
Agent Address:   1 S FAIR OAKS AVE
Agent City, State, Zip:   PASADENA CA 91105
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2015, 07:11 »
I noticed that too. It's possible they may try to keep NN Int technically alive, while from a practicle point of view it's dead and ABLE/OSA are controlling things. That could be grounds for a tax fraud case if an investigation found that's what they are doing. So I have to admit, a part of me hopes it is!
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2015, 19:01 »
I noticed that too. It's possible they may try to keep NN Int technically alive, while from a practicle point of view it's dead and ABLE/OSA are controlling things. That could be grounds for a tax fraud case if an investigation found that's what they are doing. So I have to admit, a part of me hopes it is!

Thanks for staying on top of this BigBeard!
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2015, 21:00 »
I noticed that too. It's possible they may try to keep NN Int technically alive, while from a practicle point of view it's dead and ABLE/OSA are controlling things. That could be grounds for a tax fraud case if an investigation found that's what they are doing. So I have to admit, a part of me hopes it is!

Thanks for staying on top of this BigBeard!

I'm having to start a list to keep track of the lists of things to keep track of.

Seriously, I'm hoping 2016 will be the year $cientology goofs the floof so bad with their tax games the IRS can't ignore it. At least not without getting a Congressional hammer dropped on them.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2015, 12:05 »
I noticed that too. It's possible they may try to keep NN Int technically alive, while from a practicle point of view it's dead and ABLE/OSA are controlling things. That could be grounds for a tax fraud case if an investigation found that's what they are doing. So I have to admit, a part of me hopes it is!

Thanks for staying on top of this BigBeard!

Me, too, BigBeard!  And I just realized that you are the man I need to toss an idea to, related to the tax status and IRS. Look for my PM in a few minutes. Thanks

I'm having to start a list to keep track of the lists of things to keep track of.

Seriously, I'm hoping 2016 will be the year $cientology goofs the floof so bad with their tax games the IRS can't ignore it. At least not without getting a Congressional hammer dropped on them.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 17:01 »
Looks like Narconon is for sale ::)

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/35025-Highway-79_Warner-Springs_CA_92086_M25663-20583

Good to see you posting, with such interesting news... :D

These people are in deep doo doo financially, so it makes sense that they are having to sell the property. In their 2015 Audited Financial Statement ( sent in late in mid 2017 see copy of some of it, below); it says they will sell a property in order to pay off the balloon note that was due in Dec 2018.  Perhaps it related to the NV Rainbow Canyon  Retreat property they failed to sell. It's since been taken off the market after a year of trying to market it.

Their 2017 tax return shows over half a million in 'bad debt', which they define as students or 3rd parties not paying program fees. You can see that return at this link listed as "Renewal Filing      2017". 
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Download.aspx?saveas=423257.pdf&document_id=09027b8f803682c3

It has not been fully accepted because they failed again to submit the required bi-annual audited financial statement ( for 2017) See recent letter details at end of this post. They have until Feb 3rd to submit it.

2015 Audited Financial Statement  sent in in mind 2017  listed as "2015 Miscellaneous Documents"
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Details.aspx?result=861eecf5-dc26-4f19-af0a-1d1735970f88

Complete document here

http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Download.aspx?saveas=2015+Miscellaneous+Documents.pdf&document_id=09027b8f802e59a1

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                                                                         NARCONON FRESH START
                                                               NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
                                                                         DECEMBER 31, 2015

Note 3 MORTGAGES PAYABLE

                                                                                                        2015                            2014
Mortgage payable, due on October 20, 2015, secured
by a first deed of trust, with monthly payments of
approximately $32,000, at the rate of 5.5775% in
accordance with the interest rate swap agreement (Note
4). The mortgage was in default with the lender
and was assigned to another creditor subsequently.                    $ 3,527,574            $ 3,718,735
Mortgage payable, due on or before October 21, 2027,
secured by a first deed of trust. Principal and interest
at 5.25%, in monthly installments of $2,652 to be paid
to maturity. Prepayment penalties apply through 2017.                      279,085                  295,581
Mortgage payable due on or before May 10, 2016,
secured by a first deed of trust, with monthly payments
of $3,589, including interest at 8.25% per annum, and a
final balloon payment of $424,627 due at maturity.
Prepayment penalties apply. Subsequent to year end,
the loan was assigned to another creditor.                                          424,627                   432,318

Less: unamortized loan fees                                                                                              - (9,343)
                                                                                                       $ 4,231,286             $ 4,437,291

Five year maturities are as follows:
2016      $ 442,256
2017           18,577
2018  3,547,151
2019           20,629
2020           21,739
Thereafter 180,934
                                                                                                        $ 4,231,286

Subsequent to year end, NNFS' mortgage payable in the amount of $3,527,574 had been
assigned to another lender by its original lender with a due date of June 30, 2016. NNFS
was able to obtain multiple forbearance agreements to extend the due date of the mortgage
through December 31, 2018, while giving NNFS management time to sell the property.



[..]

Note 3 MORTGAGES PAYABLE (Continued)

In 2015, NNFS elected to early adopt retrospectively the requirements of ASU 2015-03,
Simplifying the Presentation of Debt Issuance Costs, to present debt issuance costs as
a reduction of carrying amount of the debt rather than as an asset. Mortgages payable as of
December 31, 2014 was previously reported on the statement of financial position as
$4,446,634, with associated unamortized debt issuance costs included in other assets.
Amortization of debt issuance costs of $11,800 is reported as interest expense in the
statement of activities and was previously presented as amortization expense. [..]

Note 7 OPERATING LEASES

NNFS has non-cancellable operating leases on various facilities expiring through 2018.
Total rent expense under these operating leases were approximately $404,714 and
$359,034 for 2015 and 2014, respectively.

NNFS moved out of the facilities covered under the aforementioned leases during 2015.
Subsequent to year end, the landlord sued NNFS and they have reached a settlement of
$455,000
, which is included in Refunds and Settlements Payable, in the Statement of
Financial Position, NNFS agreed to make payments of (a) $10,000 before May 31, 2017;
(b) $20,000 before July 3, 2017; (c) $25,000 before August 3, 2017; and (d) monthly
installment of $10,000 starting September 4, 2017 for a total of 40 months. As of report date,
NNFS has been making payments according to the settlement agreement. [..]


Note 8 PAYROLL TAX RELATED LIABILITIES

NNFS was delinquent on payroll taxes liability during 2015. Included in payroll taxes related
liabilities are $707,642 owed for federal and states payroll taxes and penalties and interest of
$116,138 as of December 31, 2015. The penalties and interest of $116,138 have been
recorded as related party accounts receivable as NNFS is not to use organization funds to
pay for avoidable costs such as penalties and interest. NNFS has entered monthly
installment agreements with both the IRS and the EDD in the amount of $12,000 and $2,859
per month, respectively. Subsequent to year end, the IRS levied against the proceeds from
the sale of a former executive's personal residence in the amount of $200,521 to reduce the
payroll tax liability.
[..]

Note 13 CONTINGENCY (Continued)
Subsequent to year end, there were three civil actions filed against NNFS. Two of the cases
were settled in 2017, one of which is for the breach of lease contract, the settlement is
recorded in the financial statements and referred to in Note 8. The other case was settled for
an immaterial amount and the financial statements do not include an adjustment for that
liability. On the remaining pending case, according to legal counsel, it is not possible at this
stage to make a reasonable estimate of what liability, if any, NNFS may be responsible for.
Accordingly, the accompanying financial statements do not include an adjustment for any
liability that may result from these claims.

Subsequent to year end, there were four threatened civil actions filed against NNFS.
According to legal counsel, should the plaintiffs file lawsuits or arbitration demands, NNFS
will vigorously contest the matters.

Note 14 VIOLATION OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS

NNFS received a delinquency notice from the California Department of Justice State Attorney
General's office regarding the late filling of the audited financial statements for the year
ended December 31, 2015 pursuant to the provisions of Government Code section 12586.
Management can not determine the ultimate resolution of this matter at this time.
NNFS is delinquent in submitting its payroll tax payment to the IRS as well as EDD as
described in Note 8.
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Download.aspx?saveas=2015+Miscellaneous+Documents.pdf&document_id=09027b8f802e59a1

CT-550 Form RRF-1 Incomplete

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January 4, 2019
NARCONON FRESH START
2600 FOOTHILL BLVD. NO.208
LA CRESCENTA CA 91214
CT FILE NUMBER: 113113
RE: NOTICE OF INCOMPLETE REPORT
The Annual Registration Renewal Fee Report submitted on behalf of the captioned organization
for the fiscal year ending 12/31/2017 is incomplete for the following reason(s):
1. It appears from our review of Form RRF-1 for the fiscal year ending 12/31/2017 that an independent
audit was required, pursuant to the provisions of Government Code section 12586. We further note
that it is stated on the Form RRF-1 that no audit was conducted. Please either provide a copy of the
independent audit conducted for the affected year or explain why the organization was exempt from
this requirement.

2. The $150 renewal fee was not received. Please send a check in that amount, payable to "Attorney
General's Registry of Charitable Trusts".

In order to remain in compliance with the filing requirements set forth in Government Code sections
12586 and 12587, please provide the requested information, together with a copy of this letter, to the
above address, within thirty (30) days of the date of this letter.

Sincerely,
Registry of Charitable Trusts
For XAVIER BECERRA
Attorney General

Detailed instructions and forms for filing can be found on our website at oag.ca.gov/charities.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 11:12 »
Sounds like Hubbard's 'Admin Tech' didn't work out so well for this place.
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Re: Narconon Warner Springs goes "ideal"
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 17:55 »
Sounds like Hubbard's 'Admin Tech' didn't work out so well for this place.

 :-D^\^\
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