Author Topic: Do pickets against scientology work to get members out?  (Read 1565 times)

Offline ethercat

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The question in the subject line is easily answered - Yes, pickets do get members of scientology out.  There have been a number of recent stories from people who have left scientology because of picketing outside the building.  But why do they work?  What are the people inside the org seeing that gets through to them?

This is old, but I think the information contained in this post is valuable for us today:

From: "Kevin Brady"
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Message to Kevin - and other scns out there (was Re: Letter from Moxon and Kobrin)
Message-ID: <rnuP2.4279$>
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:34:15 GMT

<> wrote in message news:7elgf1$
... snip ...
: Here's a suggestion that you might find helpful when evaluating freezone
: services: make a list of all the things you experienced in scientology that
: 'worked', in your opinion. For many exiting scientologists, the main
: complaint is with the 'ethics and justice' aspect of the scn belief system,
: and not so much with the tech itself. Other reasons given by now-former scns
: for their exit include disagreement with the actions of upper management and
: OSA, and the prohibitive price of services.

1.  Enforced Agreement.
2.  Inhibited Communication
3.  Invalidated Reality
4.  Keeping seekers in Mystery, rather than providing Understanding.
5.  Prohibitive pricing.
6.  Hard-Sell
7.  Exclusivity of the Sea Org.
8.  Technically Untrained Staff.
9.  Good Roads Good Weather
10.  Disconnection Policy

Yeah.  That felt good.

:  If you wanted to post such a list to alt.religion.scientology, or to
: (the newsgroup dedicated to discussion of the tech,
: populated mainly by freezoners and other former scns who still find some
: value in what Hubbard taught), I'm sure some of us would find it extremely
: interesting. We are always trying to find the best way to reach *current*
: scientologists, and one good way to do that is to find out what it was that
: made people join - and leave -  in the first place.

I think pickets are probably the best way to reach the people *inside*.
They can't avoid seeing you.  They can't avoid wondering what the big
problem is.  They can't avoid asking someone.  They can't avoid getting
referred to OSA PR reps.  They can't avoid being dismayed at the patent
bullshit OSA will lay on them.  And they cannot then avoid being in the
condition of doubt, which will only be resolved for them by examining their
church's statistics, and comparing them to the outside world.  This won't be
easy for them, it is what happened to me.  A guy walked up and told me that
L. Ron Hubbard used to "overboard" people on the Apollo, and locked a little
boy in a chain-locker for two days.  He told me this while I was taking a
course called "Surefire Salesmanship Techniques" and drilling selling books
to raw public on the streets of New York City.  I followed the above
formula, was referred to David Aden, PR for Boston Day OSA, who first tried
to just brush it off, then asked why I was listening to such tripe, then
finally gave me a pack of "information" about that.  But the information was
incomplete, and I thought it was weird that he wouldn't just come out and
explain it to me himself.  Later, someone told me LRH was a disciple of
Aleister Crowley.  I again was referred to OSA.  They were getting annoyed
at me, I think.   Then someone said that LRH's children were no longer part
of the Church, that he had many wives, that one of them went to jail, etc.
These were all disturbing, and set off the alarm bells in my mind.  But then
I would finally get a session, and I would KNOW that auditing worked.  It
just didn't fit well.  Trust me, if I had seen a picket, I would have walked
up and talked to the picketers, and would have had MORE QUESTIONS for OSA.
Now, not every scio is as overt as me, or as willing to confront OSA all the
time.   But those pickets WORK.  People begin to have questions.  Don't stop
picketing.  I think it is the single most effective way to bring people on
the inside into communication with the outside world, and thus, to sanity

... snip ...

:  Well, speaking only for myself, I will say that I am pleased when I see
: any scientologist - current or somewhere-in-the-middle, as in your case -
: taking steps to find out the whole story, and read both sides of the debate.
: It isn't a gloating pleasure, tho - more the hope that another person has
: seen the truth that can set them free.  I have never considered
: scientologists to be my 'enemy' - although I will say that I am not exactly
: fond of the ones who have harassed and intimidated critics simply because
: they are critics.  And I hope that one day you will be able to share with us
: exactly what it was on the critical websites out there that convinced you
: that there might be something more to the criticism than what your church
: had told you.

That's the thing.  It isn't any one thing that critics can do or say.  It's
that there ARE critics, and that they are so numerous.  That they are
willing to undergo hardship so that they might be heard and seen.  That is
why the pickets are effective.  Scientologists can really relate to people
who have a cause they are willing to endure hardship for.  And real
scientologists (those who are in it for spiritual gain and not for social
security) believe in OPEN COMMUNICATION.  Anything less than that seems
suspect, and will haunt them.  So when Church officials tell them not to
communicate with the critics, THAT is when you will have your impact.  Not
just by being there, but by being there and having church officials tell
them that they cannot communicate with you.

This post was made in 1999.  Seven years later, the author, Kevin Brady, did an interview on Scientology - Through the Door,

Then in 2008, he did an interview on Disconnection Hurts,

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