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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2010, 20:50 »

 Interesting to see "Church of scientology International" has some vested interest ( Financial ?) in this case.

http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-CertificateOfInterestedParties.pdf

Aren't all the idle orgs turned over to the mother^\^\^\^\ org as soon as the local  stores finish paying for them? The whole point is that the locals pay, but Shrimpy McMiscavige owns. When the cult collapses, whose name do you suppose will end up on the titles for all these expensive properties?

Yeah, that's how it is...

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2010, 12:03 »

 Interesting to see "Church of scientology International" has some vested interest ( Financial ?) in this case.

http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-CertificateOfInterestedParties.pdf

Aren't all the idle orgs turned over to the mother^\^\^\^\ org as soon as the local  stores finish paying for them? The whole point is that the locals pay, but Shrimpy McMiscavige owns. When the cult collapses, whose name do you suppose will end up on the titles for all these expensive properties?

Yeah, that's how it is...

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It would be of benefit, IMO if the local citizenry knew who actually holds the deed to the property.

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2010, 13:30 »
I think the best thing that WE can do is to calmly hand off those videos that ST recorded throughout last year. IMO those opinions make the defense incredibly strong. Anything else may backfire, like the lawyers said.

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2010, 13:50 »
^^^
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2010, 21:08 »
Lets wait until the city responds to the plaintiffs claim.

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2010, 20:37 »
It would be of benefit, IMO if the local citizenry knew who actually holds the deed to the property.

If I'm remembering correctly, CSI (Church of Scientology International) was mentioned in the zoning application.
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2010, 20:14 »
Seems a reply must have been filed, if a judge has been appointed (?):
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-gandce/case_no-1:2010cv00082/case_id-164119/

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Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc. v. City of Sandy Springs, Georgia et al
Plaintiff:   Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc.
Defendant:   City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries, William Coppedge Collins, Jr., Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio and Karen Meinzen McEnerny
 
Case Number:   1:2010cv00082
Filed:   January 13, 2010
 
Court:   Georgia Northern District Court
Office:   Atlanta Office [ Court Info ]
County:   Fulton
Presiding Judge:   Pannell Jr
 
Nature of Suit:   Other Statutes - Other Civil Rights
Cause:   42:1983 Civil Rights Act
Jurisdiction:   Federal Question
Jury Demanded By:   None
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2010, 18:45 »
Answer was filed yesterday.  I've loaded down the dox from PACER and emailed them to Ethercat.

From my quick look at it, it's a straight denial with no other arguments.

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2010, 19:13 »
"Straight denial" means...what? A judge told the CofS to GTFO with their frivolous suit? Or SS denied any wrongdoing and it is still going to Fed Court? Sorry, my brain is baked from running errands in schizophrenic weather today
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2010, 19:31 »
"Straight denial" means...what? A judge told the CofS to GTFO with their frivolous suit? Or SS denied any wrongdoing and it is still going to Fed Court? Sorry, my brain is baked from running errands in schizophrenic weather today

The 1st response was basically "no, we didn't discriminate" along with a few "irrelevants" and a "we have no way of knowing that" or two.  A denial of any wrongdoing. 

This may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuit

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2010, 19:59 »
Gotcha.
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2010, 08:25 »
The new filings say it very clearly; the city employees and elected representatives are immune protected from lawsuits by state statutes, and the rest of the torts claimed by the cult are non-existent. The Federal suit is moot because the cult has made no attempt to seek redress through the state court. first.

There's more, but I will let you look at it yourself. It is impressively free of legalese, and easy to read.

The cult really has no leg to stand on in this suit. It will be interesting to see how their lawyers twist the facts to keep it going.

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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2010, 09:32 »
To me, it all boils down to:

CULT: We want special favours.
SS: No.
CULT: But we WANT them!
SS: No.
CULT: WANT WANT WANT BAAAAW
SS: Really? ...NO.
CULT: RELIGIOUS BIGOTS!
SS: LOLWUT
CULT: WE GONNA SUE
SS: Whatevs
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2010, 18:08 »
To me, it all boils down to:

CULT: We want special favours.
SS: No.
CULT: But we WANT them!
SS: No.
CULT: WANT WANT WANT BAAAAW
SS: Really? ...NO.
CULT: RELIGIOUS BIGOTS!
SS: LOLWUT
CULT: WE GONNA SUE
SS: Whatevs

Bwhahaha!  Exactly.
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2010, 18:27 »
WWP discussion of the latest filings starts here: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/cult-files-suit-georgia-59732/8/#post1204619

Edit: fixed link.
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2010, 13:43 »
New documents:

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Plaintiff's First Interrogatories and Request for Production of Documents and Notice to Produce by Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc..(Jones, Andrea) (Entered: 03/26/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-cert.service.plantiff.interrogatories.pdf

Initial Disclosures by Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc..(Jones, Andrea) (Entered: 04/05/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-initial disclosures.pdf

Joint PRELIMINARY REPORT AND DISCOVERY PLAN filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc.. (Jones, Andrea) (Entered: 04/05/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-joint.preliminary.report.and.discovery.plan.pdf

SCHEDULING ORDER approving [14] Preliminary Report and Discovery Plan, except as herein modified: Daubert motions with regard to expert testimony shall be filed no later than 30 days after close of discovery. Signed by Judge Charles A. Pannell, Jr on 4/7/2010. (adg) (Entered: 04/07/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-scheduling.order.joint.discovery.pdf

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE of Plaintiff's Responses to Defendants' First Continuing Interrogatories, Request for Production of Documents and First Requests for Admissions by Church of Scientology of Georgia, Inc..(Jones, Andrea) (Entered: 04/26/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-cert.service.plaintiffs.responses.1st.interr.pdf

NOTICE of Appearance by Wendell K. Willard on behalf of William Coppedge Collins, Jr, Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio, Karen Meinzen McEnerny, City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries (Willard, Wendell) (Entered: 04/28/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-notice.of.appearance.willard.pdf

NOTICE to Take Deposition of Deb Danos filed by William Coppedge Collins, Jr, Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio, Karen Meinzen McEnerny, City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries (Henderson, Laurel) (Entered: 05/04/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-notice.deposition.deb.danos.pdf

NOTICE to Take Deposition of Bob Wright filed by William Coppedge Collins, Jr, Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio, Karen Meinzen McEnerny, City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries (Henderson, Laurel) (Entered: 05/05/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-notice.deposition.bob.wright.pdf

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE Defendants' Response to Plaintiff's First Interrogatories by William Coppedge Collins, Jr, Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio, Karen Meinzen McEnerny, City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries.(Henderson, Laurel) (Entered: 05/06/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-cert.service.def.response.1st.interr.pdf

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE Defendants' Response to Plaintiff's First Request for Documents and Notice to Produce to Defendants by William Coppedge Collins, Jr, Ashley Jenkins, Tiberio DeJulio, Karen Meinzen McEnerny, City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, City Council of the City of Sandy Springs, Georgia, Eva Galambos, John Paulson, Dianne Fries. (Henderson, Laurel) (Entered: 05/06/2010)
http://alley.ethercat.com/storage/RLUIPA-cert.service.def.response.1st.request.docs.pdf


Continuing thanks to UltraPoet for the dox.   :)
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2010, 15:10 »
404 error at 2nd linky.
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Re: RLUIPA Law Suit Filed by Church of Scientology of Georgia
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2010, 17:07 »
404 error at 2nd linky.

Thanks.  It's fixed now.   
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