1 Q And then on the bridge there's an ethics2 office. What is that about?3 A That is where someone would go to receive some4 suggested study in an area of deficiency in their life5 where they have a hard time maintaining their integrity.6 Q Okay.7 A Was that well spoken?8 MS. JONES: Yeah.9 Q (By Ms. Henderson) All right.10 MS. JONES: Don't want to go to the11 ethics office.12 MS. HENDERSON: You sound like you've13 been there.14 THE WITNESS: Well, haven't we all in15 some fashion.
22 Q What about the larger course room that's in23 the bottom of that central portion?24 A Yeah. That would be what's called TRs and25 objectives. And that is a -- that is a practice room.1 It's typically very noisy. ...
1 Q Is there a point in time in which a bridge can2 be completed?3 A There is. Currently we have a specific4 portion of the bridge that is available, yet there are5 additional courses of study that have yet to be6 released, and there are some requisite conditions that7 have been outlined by the founder before they can be8 released. And getting the ideal organizations all9 established is one of those prerequisites.10 Q So at this point in time the bridge cannot be11 completed because all of the components have not yet12 been released?13 A That is correct.
14 I mean, it's just so -- it just15 vacillates so very much. But Hubbard demands that16 you have the space there and available on demand so17 that if you had two people who walked in to the18 church and on this day there was no Dianetic19 seminar scheduled and they wanted that Dianetic20 seminar, that the guy who's responsible for21 delivering that would show up in there and deliver22 that seminar to those two people. It's an on23 demand kind of religion.24 Q (By Ms. Henderson) There aren't many of those25 around.
Quote from: SocialTransparency on December 26, 2010, 08:31 Within Allan Cartwrights affidavit, and his explanation of the tenets of scientology, nowhere do I see mention use of the E-Meter in the auditing process. Is not the E-Meter the foundation in which a scientologist gains knowledge of one self? I wonder why Mr Cartwright failed to make reference to this oh so holiest of holy devices?I guess he didn't consider it relevant to parking issues or religious discrimination. I would probably agree with him there.
Within Allan Cartwrights affidavit, and his explanation of the tenets of scientology, nowhere do I see mention use of the E-Meter in the auditing process. Is not the E-Meter the foundation in which a scientologist gains knowledge of one self? I wonder why Mr Cartwright failed to make reference to this oh so holiest of holy devices?
23 Q (By Ms. Henderson) Have you ever been deposed 24 before? 25 A No.
Mary. To your knowledge, has Deb Danos ever appeared in other court cases? Has she ever been deposed?Quoted from Deborah Quinn Danos depositionQuote23 Q (By Ms. Henderson) Have you ever been deposed 24 before? 25 A No.
Hello, Last week this email below was sent to you. This week Our Org received notice that a group called "Anonymous"will be picketing the Org on 10 feb.2008. That is next sunday. Please check your email often this coming week,because we want everyone there for support, to be on course, to man the VM tent and perhaps some other actions as well. You will be receiving an email from our DSA Deb Danos mid-week. Now is the time to support the Org!SIGNS of SUCCESS"Whenever we're really winning, the squirrels start to scream. You can tell if somebody is a squirrel.They howl or make trouble when we're winning.Spectacular success can quadruple the number of complaints. Tell the complainees: "Come in,get Clear." Otherwise skip it.To understand a squirrel,consider the reaction of somebody who could not run the fifth leg of Help, "How could another person help another person." The thought of this drives some people spinny. That'sa squirrel. They can't view other people helping others without going berserk.There's nothing personal in having squirrels. Even heroes can have lice."L. Ron Hubbard HCOB of 1 MAY 1958Have you noticed that there are a few squirrels gathering 'round? Above is the LRH answer for dealing with squirrels. With an Ideal Org in Georgia we can keep more squirrels in the trees where they belong.Please Donate today for OUR IDEAL ORGORG PHONE 770-522-8983� 2007 CSGA. All rights reserved. SCIENTOLOGY and LRH, are trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission. Services relating to Scientology religious philosophy are delivered throughout the world exclusively by licensees of the Church of Scientology International and with the permission of Religious Technology Center, holder of the SCIENTOLOGY and DIANETICS trademarks.
The dumbest move of the picket was when DSA of Denver, Deb Danos had the sign saying "Wollersheim used Penny."
cut to Deb Danos speaking to the crowd who has gatheredaround to listen-
Deborah Danos, director of special affairs for the church, said theinformation Penny put on the Internet is not readily available to thepublic. It can be obtained only as each member advances to the next stepof "spiritual enlightenment." "There is freedom of speech, but not freedom to break copyrights," Danossaid at Penny's home on Tuesday. "He's making a mockery of it ...spreading (material) around the world and saying 'Look how ridiculous thisis.' " The church became aware of the sit uation when one of its membersfound the information about Scientology on the Internet. Danos said the church will not allow it to continue.
From The Boulder Daily Camera Aug 23 1995 Font PageHEADLINE: Marshals raid homes of former Scientologists SUB HEADER: ACLU lawyer sees appalling lack of due process By DOUG COSPERCamera Staff WriterDelegations of Scientologists searched two Boulder County homes Tuesdayunder the protection of federal marshals, seizing thousands of dollars incomputer equipment and data they claim were used to violate copyrights on"sacred scriptures." Directors of FACTNet, an Internet bulletin board dedicated largely tocriticizing the church of Scientology, said after the simultaneous raidsthat the Scientologists also got a bonus: a list of thousands of theirenemies. An American Civil Liberties Union lawyer at one raid in Boulder called theaction "appalling." "With my own eyes, I witnessed a member of Scientology going throughdrawers and closets," said Denver attorney David Lane. "What kind of acountry is this when your sworn enemy can go into your house and rummagethrough your drawers at the point of a fed eral marshal's gun?" The Church of Scientology, founded 40 years ago by science fiction writerL. Ron Hubbard, teaches that technology can expand the mind and help solvehuman problems. It can cost thousands of dollars for initiates to progressthrough the church's teachings and counseling. Church spokeswoman KarinPouw said the organization has 8 million members worldwide. Beginning about 9 a.m., parties of federal marshals and Scientologymembers entered the homes of Lawrence Wollersheim in Boulder and Bob Pennyin Niwot. Both men are former Scientologists who turned against the churchafter being excommunicated. (See HOMES, Page 2A)HEADLINE: Homes of ex-Scientologists raided (From Page 1A)Denver copyright lawyer Todd Blakely, who was at the Wollersheim raid torepresent the church, said the marshals were enforcing a federal seizurewarrant for Scientology "religious text" protected by federal copyrightand trade secret laws. Pouw, who flew with colleagues from Los Angeles forthe actions, said the men had posted protected "religious secrets" on theInternet newsgroup "alt.religion.scientology" and threatened to continue. The church "scriptures" are guarded under lock and key at six locationsacross the globe, said Blakely, who is not a church member. Pouw said thatbecause only members who had "reached a certain level in the church" hadaccess to them, a church member must have stolen them. "It's our constitutional right to have religious secrets," Pouw said."(Wollersheim) is on a hate campaign against Scientology, and he's chosenthe wrong target." Wollersheim, who said he was a part-time computer consultant, said FACTNetis a nonprofit archive "dedicated to exposing information on dangerouscults and mind control." He called Scientology "the largest secret sataniccult in the world." Wollersheim, 46, who was a Scientologist from age 18 to 29, said he won a$30 million verdict against the church in a previous lawsuit. Pouw saidWollersheim has not collected any of the $2.5 million reduced award.Wollersheim also is helping Time magazin e defend against a $470 millionlibel suit the church filed following a 1991 news story about the church. The raids were not the first by the church against critics who wouldpublish what the church calls protected material. Acting on a similarfederal warrant, the church a few weeks ago seized former Scientologistminister Dennis Erlich's computer diskettes and files from his Glendale,Calif., home. On Aug. 12, a raid shut down Virginia critic Arnaldo Lerma, a 44year-oldformer member. "This raid is not about copyrighted documents, it's about the churchbeating up on its adversaries," Wollersheim said. U.S. Marshal Chief Deputy Larry Homenick said the federal marshals wereenforcing a private civil seizure brought by the church and ordered by afederal court in Denver. "Our only role is to provide a law enforcement presence and execute theorder of the court. We allow the plaintiff (the church) to seize theproperty: We don't have the expertise to identify the objects. Weinventory it and hand it over to them pending further litigation,"Homenick said. Along with the seized computer hardware and software, data storage devicesand paper documents, the Scientologists took a mailing list of 8,50d"donors and former church members" who support FACTNet and "who are veryafraid of Scientology," Wollersheim sa id. Attorney Lane said: "There are names of persons in these files who haveescaped Scientology and changed their names, started new lives.: They'renow in the hands of Scientologists." Pouw said the church would do nothing with the list. "Experts are going through the material looking for key words ofcopyrighted material. Everything not copyrighted will be returned," shesaid. Two federal judges denied Lane's request Tuesday for a hearing in whichWollersheim and Penny could have presented their cases against handingover the seized materials to the church, Lane said.: "This country is founded on principles of due process, and this is as farfrom due process as you can get," he said. But regardless of the outcome of the federal civil suits behind the raids,many of the church texts have been downloaded into hard drives across thecountry already, said Penny, the retired founder of the Boulder softwarecompany Small Systems Design Inc. "They're already everywhere; they'll be popping up on the net. Certainlynot from us, but that no longer matters," he said. From The Longmont Daily Times Call Aug 22 1995 Front PageHEADLINE: Marshals raid homes in countyPam Regensberg and B.J. Plasket The Daily Times-Call NIWOT-U S. Marshals raided Niwot and Boulder homes today seizing computersoftware, hardware and other electronic gear to halt what the Church ofScientology claims is copyright infringement. Church officials claim Bob Penny of Niwot and Larry Wollersheim ofBoulder, who were both reportedly excommunicated from the church, placedcopyrighted Scientology material on the Internet. However, Penny, speaking through a friend over the telephone today, saidthe material that was placed on the Internet was legally obtainedinformation from court documents. The material placed on the electronicbulletin board was information taken from a California case in whichSteven Fishman sued the church and won over a similar copyright case. At noon today, marshals were boxing up Penny's beSee RAID/A9RAID: Continued from page A1 longings. According to a press release issued by a church spokesperson, today'ssearch and seizure follows a similar raid 10 days ago on a colleague ofWollersheim's and Penny's in Virginia. "The courts take these matters very seriously," said the plaintiff'sDenver lawyer, Todd Blakely. "The law is clear-if you are going to violatecopyrights, you will have to answer for it in court." Gail Armstrong, a spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology in LosAngeles; scoffed at claims the materials were in the public domain becausethey were contained in a public court record. "The fact that copyrighted material is contained in a court record doesnot at all mean the copyright can be violated," she said. "Anything filedin court does not become public domain if it is copyrighted." Helena Kobrin, cited by the church as an intellectual property law expert,also discounted the argument that Wollersheim and Penny's right to freespeech allows them to place the copyrighted material on the Internet. "Violators of copyright and trade secret laws traditionally try to hidebehind free speech claims," she said. "The church is a strong advocate offree speech, however free speech does not mean free theft and no one hasthe right to cloak themselves in the First Amendment to break the law." Tina Rowe, the head of the U.S. Marshal's office in Denver, wasunavailable for comment on the raid at press time this afternoon. From the Longmont Daily times Call Aug 23 1995 Front PageHEADLINE: SPEECH VS. RELIGION SUBHEAD: Ex-Scientologist says church duped judge into issuing warrant Pam Regensberg and B.J. Plasket The Daily Times-Call NIWOT-Bob Penny continues to deny the Church of Scientology's allegationsthat he violated United States copyright laws, despite a court order tohand over items believed to contain secret church information. The 53-year-old ex-Scientologist said church officials somehow duped ajudge into issuing a search and seizure order. Three church members along with their photographers and U.S. marshalsshowed up at Penny's Niwot home Tuesday at 9 a.m. with the order in hand. "It's the sort of thing the Church of Scientology does all the time,"Penny said. The church has accused Penny and Larry Wollersheim of Boulder of placingprivate church information on an electronic bulletin See PENNY/All PENNY:Continued from Page A1board they established. The information includes steps to "spiritual enlightenment." Penny denies that, but admits to placing information about cults on theFight Against Coercive Tactics Network (FACTNet Inc.,), that was run fromPenny's home. In a brochure supplied by FACTNet, the board of directors - Penny,Wollersheim and Jon Atack-describe themselves at "victims of coercive mindcontrol." Penny claims the Church of Scientology is a dangerous cult that isresponsible for 300 suicides or attempted suicides. The organization isthe brainchild of L. Ron Hubbard, author of Dianetics. Penny was a memberfor 13 years before he left. Deborah Danos, director of special affairs for the church, said theinformation Penny put on the Internet is not readily available to thepublic. It can be obtained only as each member advances to the next stepof "spiritual enlightenment." "There is freedom of speech, but not freedom to break copyrights," Danossaid at Penny's home on Tuesday. "He's making a mockery of it ...spreading (material) around the world and saying 'Look how ridiculous thisis.' " The church became aware of the sit uation when one of its membersfound the information about Scientology on the Internet. Danos said the church will not allow it to continue. Tina Rowe, who heads the U.S. Marshal's Office in Denver, said the seizurewas a routine execution of a federal court order. Computer software,hardware, a fax machine and several files were taken from Penny's home. InBoulder, a similar operation took pl ace at Wollersheim's home. "This was not at all an unusual thing," Rowe said Tuesday. "We got anorder from the federal court and are carrying it out. "It is still inprogress and is going along smoothly. It has been a situation withoutincident." Rowe said she is not familiar with the details of the case-only the orderto seize certain items from the homes. Wollersheim claims he is being denied due process. The marshals justshowed up and began taking items. Ann Weber, Penny's friend who was with him during the seizure, said Pennywas not surprised when the marshals arrived. He called her and told her, "Now you will believe when I told you this iswhat they do." A federal judge is now reviewing the search and seizure order. But, fornow, Penny and Wollersheim are out of business.
(3) I asked Deb Danos if she thought a post containing six lines from OTVII could be cancelled by the cult. She said "yes". Deb also mentioned that the cancellations has been brought up in court Friday, but she didn't mention any details.
(6) Gender: At the Boulder picket, there were two male scientologists when we started: Anderson and Bob. The other three pickets, Deb, and the rest (Until Rex Fowler and the clear showed up) were all females. Do you think this was intentional?
No bail for accused murderer Rex Fowler
BRIGHTON — An Adams County District Court judge today ordered William Rex Fowler, 58, to face first-degree murder charges in the Dec. 31, 2009 shooting of Tom Ciancio.Judge Francis Wasserman also denied bail for Fowler.Fowler is accused of shooting Ciancio, 42, three times in the head with a 9mm Glock handgun when Ciancio came to Fowler Software in unincorporated Adams County to collect $9,900 in severance pay. Ciancio, who was Fowler Software's chief operating officer, resigned Nov. 23 in a dispute over the way the company was being managed.Prosecutors said during a preliminary hearing today that Fowler lured Ciancio to his office to commit a murder suicide.Investigators say Fowler shot Ciancio three times in the head and then shot himself under the chin in attempt to end his own life.Prosecutors said they found notes written by Fowler to his wife, and also a living will they say indicated he was going to commit suicide after taking Ciancio's life."Fowler took care of his own business before he took care of his own suicide," the prosecutor said.Fowler's attorney said at worst, her client should face second-degree murder charges."This was a professional dispute and it was not based on first-degree murder," defense attorney Sarah Quinn said.
Now how on earth has this women not ever given a court deposition in the past?... IF I were say legal counsel, which I am not, I would vet the above information, then think long and hard about some of the responses made by Deborah Quinn Danos within her deposition to the attorney questioning her on behalf of the City of Sandy Springs Georgia in this current RLUIPA case.
On a lighter note, the church's law firm (Dillard and Galloway), does not list them on its website as one of their representative clients.
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